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Palmar
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On March 04 2014 18:06 Oatsmaster wrote: I got shot in my newbie game  Hey i was gonna point out the GGtemp shit. Wtf palmar. I'm just faster than you. Who are your top 2 town reads and why. If you don't have town reads, then please just force the answers and give whatever little reasoning you can. | ||
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On March 04 2014 18:08 Oatsmaster wrote: palmar, do you know if Austin being against policy lynching and trolling is normal? I don't really do the meta thing that much. I have no idea what austin would do in that situation. But he may have been in a game where I suggested it before, but to be honest I wouldn't read to much into it. I still need to decide how serious he was being when he refused it. all in all I don't think I can determine his alignment based on just that. | ||
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On March 04 2014 18:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hi Palmar are you around? I'm working, but yes, I'm around sporadically for the next hours. | ||
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On March 04 2014 18:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: I would like you to elaborate on this post a bit more. I'm unsure on what there is to elaborate. Judging by the content in the thread when I entered it, there aren't many players in this game that tend to write good concise posts. VisceraEyes is fully capable, and actually quite good at, taking a leadership role in town, but he doesn't always do it (see survivor series, he was mostly invisible for the first 2 days). I was pointing out to him that this game requires him to take a leadership role if he's town. I think it's fairly obvious that we need a few people to step up this game. And by that logic, VE should know he's needed and expected to shoulder some of the burden this game, and thus not doing so should be taken as an indication that he is not town, and thus he should be lynched on policy for failing to meet my expectations. All I'm asking for is him playing the game. Looks like Oats is actually trying to step up and I like it, so that might solve some of the content issues. | ||
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On March 04 2014 18:27 Oatsmaster wrote: Like this post. Its odd for me that Austin is talking about boone as the only substantial part of his filter but never gives a read on her. Or anyone at all. This is actually a valid point. Repeatedly asking questions without providing your own conclusion can both be town move (interrogating) or scum move (posting with no content). I don't remember if austin ever did anything with the train of thought he was asking robik about so there's that, if he just asked questions to not reach any conclusions I think you're right it looks pretty bad. | ||
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On March 04 2014 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's basically why i asked about it (the VE thing, i got that). But another thing is who do you think are the people not quality posters? I don't really see where you're going with this, but I'm sure you have a reason for asking so I'll give you an answer. Also I'd like to clarify that this quality posting thing is basically a list of people who tend to, or I know can, post very transparently on day 1, thus making them easy town reads if they are town. Me/you/ve, possibly grack/austin. This is the list of people I know are able to post coherently enough on day 1 to assume a leadership position and look town. That leaves a fuckton. Now there's a lot of people I haven't played with before here (ggtemplar, boone, killing, robik) and then there's a few resident trolls (dandel, oats, slam). I just can't remember anything about justanothertownie, I'm sure I've played with him but he doesn't stick out. If all the new people post very well (see suki/balla, I was impressed) this won't be a problem. Also slam and oats have actually been useful this game, so that might also solve what I thought might be a problem. So my assumption is that I'm only gonna get very few people who don't troll/lurk on day 1 and post the quality/quantity required for me to make a town read on them early. | ||
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On March 04 2014 18:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes Slam is most likely town. Do you have any other reads? | ||
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The one thing that stood out in your post is your thoughts on ggtemplar. I have no reason to believe anything he says until he starts explaining his thought process. These new kids all keep talking about "I'm reading you scum" or "I'm reading you town" but there seems to be little behind those reads except some vague meta feels. | ||
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On March 04 2014 19:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: The point is that's what they do in video mafia. Draw reactions, fake drawing reactions etc. IT's really easy to attack them but it's not alignment indicative yet. They have their own way of getting reads and/or starting the game and it's easy to call them out for it but it does not achieve anything because they would do that as either alignment. You just get a shitfest which ends up in TL guys accusing them and the other way around.  At least Robik was able to "adjust" to forum mafia play a bit after the game start so that's what i am expecting from him and from other people. I know GGtemplar has played many games here and he seems the most "off" from the group because that's not what he usually does. I actually want to ask GGtemplar why did you vote for the people you voted for? Exactly why I pointed out ggtemplar. Robik actually gave good reasons for everything he did, templar just randomly voted people. | ||
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On March 04 2014 19:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Robik why are you picking on boone? Can you give me a train of thought what she's doing in your opinion? Do you not think his point on boone is fair? | ||
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On March 04 2014 20:48 Dandel Ion wrote: Plammer why do you have a townread on rayn? did I say I had one? | ||
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On March 04 2014 21:11 Dandel Ion wrote: And I'm saying it can't be that terrible if it has a higher % than normal lynching. Or are you against day1 lynches in general? IS THAT IT? DO YOU HATE FREEDOM? Only count games where I'm town. Ignore other games. | ||
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Because of dragons and such. | ||
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On March 04 2014 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Not necessarily. I might know what he is after but i am not sure. But I think it's a valid point. The specific wording of the latter part of her post, where she doesn't really take any kind of a stance on the issue is somewhat suspicious. She leaves the option of going back on the RL wagon open without actively supporting it (and thus, de facto not supporting it). | ||
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On March 04 2014 21:34 Dandel Ion wrote: But dragons are reptilians So they're like snakes So they're lying Alternatively some "experts" suggest they're closer to birds. Bird brains are shit-small. Why would you ever listen to a dragon Go do something useful. | ||
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On March 04 2014 22:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let's talk about it after robik answers me okay? I think Dandel is town what do you think? I think he's a troll and I have no idea about his alignment. | ||
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On March 04 2014 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes he is a troll but there is also this thing between his town ans scum play whereas as scum he only trolls and as town he trolls and actually forms reads and says stuff. Do you think he hasn't said anything useful that counts as contributing? atm I'd probably be fine with trusting your townread on him. | ||
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