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Vivax
21965 Posts
Later Wave touches upon the same post to say what's scummy about it. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On February 27 2014 17:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: green: Toad does not respect my town play -> i often have crap reads in his opinion red: but he trusts my meta-read on Holyflare enough to ignore his scum suspect These two don't go together very well. well, there's an "if" in the red part and I still have him in my list. So it obviously shows that I'm not deleting him out of my list  Also there's another reason I'd rather not want to share in here. Has something to do with your wording. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On February 27 2014 22:54 Vivax wrote: And later you say Which I already addressed earlier stating that gumshoe actually did consider all options, which you say is townie, and I say is scummy cause of the way he did it. I actually did think about that when you presented it. I disagree that all options were presented as I mentioned myself (again, he only has options that paint her in a bad light there) but the presenting of options in general is what you find scummy. I can actually agree with that to some degree, but in what scenario does scum gumshoe provide outs? In fact, gumshoe IS offering the alternate scenario where suki isn't scum, and offering her the explanations for her behaviour in that case, hence WoS is actually stating the contrary to what I stated. He says town should be considering all options, I say if you find somebody scummy you don't call it out and then put an explanation out there that the accused can use against your own argument. You say this---the only scenario then to me in which the above makes sense is if they're both scum together. Are you making preflip associations in your case, Vivax? On February 27 2014 22:56 Vivax wrote: Especially because of the first quote I'm not buying your suspicion of gumshoe, and the way you abandoned your vote on him so easily, and how you didn't poke him when he said he had stuff he didn't want to share at the moment, and and and I abandoned my vote on him easily? Did you read the thread Vivax? lol. I think I may be just about done trying to justify myself---I don't see the value in proving myself to scum especially when I don't think anyone else in the thread sees what you do in that something was 'wrong' with my gumshoe suspicion. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
If you are planning to vote for me for such a petty reasoning; at least have the decency to parse through my filter with your confirmation biased mindset and tell me why I am playing against my role PM. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On February 27 2014 22:59 Vivax wrote: Wave asks gum if he should policy lynch him for lurking 2 minutes after he posted something that Wave said to be not alignment indicative. Later Wave touches upon the same post to say what's scummy about it. WHere the fuck are you coming up with this shit? You're doing it again---nitpicking random shit in my filter to attempt to make me look bad when none of it does. I already explained why I asked that question to gumshoe AND rayn multiple times. Done explaining myself to you, Vivax. Toad, please just leave modconfirmation shit out of this and vote Vivax with me. | ||
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Vivax
21965 Posts
You say this---the only scenario then to me in which the above makes sense is if they're both scum together. Are you making preflip associations in your case, Vivax? If you read what I wrote about gumshoe's post in my first post you would understand what I mean. He claims he's suspicious of suki for the tone of her posts, cause it feels crafted. At the end of the post he said that if she's town she's either nervous or baiting, which immediately offers an alternate explanation to his own crafted post theory. You say its townie to consider all options. I claimed it's scummy cause he basically offers her the easy out to his own interpretation of events, which leads to gumshoe's post having zero impact with the points he mentioned about suki. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
Straight out of GSL On February 14 2014 06:37 VIVAX420 wrote: Still waiting for opinions on Shiao and sidesprang. ~V In this game, we get the post from Vivax I quoted before where he takes a dump on town and then says he will go back to lurking. Note, there is no gobetween with Gumshoe. | ||
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Vivax
21965 Posts
Gumshoe didn't even come back since my post at the time, so there can be no gobetween. Try to fling more shit pls. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
I'm gonna sheep the best case when i am done with broodwar. I can't understnad what's going on @ the last couple of pages and it confuses me. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On February 27 2014 23:06 Toadesstern wrote: Toad, did you read the context of why I raised that point?I'm not playing host-wifom. I don't understand why rayn thinks you're confirmed town for no reason and I think the fact that that's a thing makes you even more likely to be mafia. It was specifically relating to gumshoe saying he is aware of my mentality because we played scum together. The sad thing is, this is very similar to your position (just opposite decision) with the miller claim (i.e. you would have gone after Rayn as scum) The fact that you are not dropping this, is highly indicative that you are town. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
First off his case against me is garbage. He says things like I'm buddying to Suki even though he supposedly has us both as scum teammates. He selectively pulls quotes from my posts to make me look bad. Like he spends a ton of time talking about how I'm all in w/ suki On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote: I dont like Jar Jar, much of his style has been mostly determined by an uncanny devotion to Suki. On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote: From here on out, Jar mostly pushes me and Moc and at the foundation of this crusade is his staunch bilief in Suki. On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote: Later on he asserts his Suki read without proof. On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote: Also, despite Jar Jar buddying her to extreme lengths, Suki has not once mentioned him. On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote: That's alll from his case against me. I think he mentioned suki more in that one post then I have the entire thread. All I said about her was how I thought Moc made a bad case against her and then later on when Moc asked me what I thought about her I said she read town to me.For now I'll switch my vote onto Jar, because the dudes based his accusations against me on my undying love for Moc, while his loyalty to Suki, which has defined his play for more than mine to Moc, is more so questionable and pretty much unexplained. Gumshoe is completely misrepresenting my play. Read my filter and tell me if you think "much of [My] style has been mostly determined by an uncanny devotion to Suki." It's a total horseshit case. I also think his townread on moc is just too disingenuous. He townread him real early in the game for terrible reasons and now he's basically treating him as confirmed town: He just can't possibly be that confident. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On February 27 2014 23:09 Vivax wrote: You can ride on that post all you want Moc. Fact is, I didn't go back to lurking, and I just witnessed the toad geript shitfest that looked like a load of bullcrap to me and hence made the post. Gumshoe didn't even come back since my post at the time, so there can be no gobetween. Try to fling more shit pls. You can start by addressing the point I made regarding your inconsistencies with the gumshoe read and mocsta read. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On February 27 2014 23:11 JarJarDrinks wrote: And like, if you look @ GSL, he gave off that same air of confidence w/ his scumread on Mattchew. It may be a townread vs a scumread but he comes off very similiar.I also think his townread on moc is just too disingenuous. He townread him real early in the game for terrible reasons and now he's basically treating him as confirmed town: He just can't possibly be that confident. | ||
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Vivax
21965 Posts
Calls him out for lurking, says the post said nothing about gum's alignment, later touches upon that same post to say that town should consider all options. Asks gumshoe for metaless case, gumshoe doesn't deliver. WoS doesn't care that gumshoe doesn't want to share information, and says that he starts to lean sloppy town on gumshoe, yet keeps his vote on him. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On February 27 2014 23:11 JarJarDrinks wrote: ermm.. BttB which you played in. Me and thrawn called each other masons (i.e. confident town reads) within the first 30minutes.+ Show Spoiler + ##vote Gumshoe First off his case against me is garbage. He says things like I'm buddying to Suki even though he supposedly has us both as scum teammates. He selectively pulls quotes from my posts to make me look bad. Like he spends a ton of time talking about how I'm all in w/ suki On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote: I dont like Jar Jar, much of his style has been mostly determined by an uncanny devotion to Suki. On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote: From here on out, Jar mostly pushes me and Moc and at the foundation of this crusade is his staunch bilief in Suki. On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote: Later on he asserts his Suki read without proof. On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote: Also, despite Jar Jar buddying her to extreme lengths, Suki has not once mentioned him. On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote: That's alll from his case against me. I think he mentioned suki more in that one post then I have the entire thread. All I said about her was how I thought Moc made a bad case against her and then later on when Moc asked me what I thought about her I said she read town to me.For now I'll switch my vote onto Jar, because the dudes based his accusations against me on my undying love for Moc, while his loyalty to Suki, which has defined his play for more than mine to Moc, is more so questionable and pretty much unexplained. Gumshoe is completely misrepresenting my play. Read my filter and tell me if you think "much of [My] style has been mostly determined by an uncanny devotion to Suki." It's a total horseshit case. I also think his townread on moc is just too disingenuous. He townread him real early in the game for terrible reasons and now he's basically treating him as confirmed town: On February 27 2014 09:26 gumshoe wrote: You heard me, all in, Mocsta is town. He just can't possibly be that confident. "can't" is a word too strong. I think the real question should be whether scum gumshoe has any value to insert me as a town read at that point in time. You could argue he used me as a platform to leap onto Suki, but did this really go anywhere? Compare gumshoe to Vivax. Gumshoe has maintained i am town all game. Something town *or* scum can do. Whereas Vivax voted me with thread sentiment and still to this point has not identified items that are scummy to this game. His main criteria was that I am not tryhard like in Smurf Mafia. 1 game in say ~14. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On February 27 2014 12:20 gumshoe wrote: Cause I couldnt, didnt really matter to me anyways, I just like to make you work on something other than destroying town and murdering its babies. On February 22 2014 02:56 gumshoe wrote: I did nothing but attack scum until Vivax raised a case against me, which is pretty much what I do every game that I dont uber lurk. I do play and think a bit "odd" and players both green and red usually pass that behaviour off as scummy. If you Vivax and everyone else start finding "unexplainable" motives here and there(as one enthuastic townie once said about my posts) theres not much I can do but sincerely ask you to reconsider ) : I'm not scum and from my view point, however skewed it might be, I've communicated that through my actions. I assure you I have a fantastic lurker meta to fall back on should I ever roll red, but thats not where I'm at this game, and it'll piss me off to no end if I get mislynched and am forced to imagine Matt's laughter roll across the vaulted ceilings of his super secret scum layer. | ||
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Vivax
21965 Posts
Point 1: Countered cause he didn't comprehend a post. Point 2: Countered cause I had my reasons for that post. There comes point 3: Hey Vivax all the points I said about you just now are completely worthless so please talk about the stuff you didn't counter yet. No thx Moc. | ||
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