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I'm not saying Palmar plays like this, or that even good players play like this. I know I'm outclassed this game and one of the reasons people don't like me is because my cases are bad, but that's my current skill level. I'm just throwing out ideas because at the moment, I find it very unlikely that the rest of mafia is within Balla, kush and slam. If it turns out that only one mafia is in that group, that means that one of the very active players in this game is scum. And maybe this is self-centered but Palmar has been suspicious of me this entire game with no change in attitude and I find this very weird, because almost everyone else has had fluid views on me. So that is why I want to know why Palmar is town. | ||
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On February 23 2014 01:29 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote: Palmar hasn't put serious effort in since ever in this game. He's not trying to influence the game in any mafia like fashion. I don't think Day 1 would've been a clear wash on Toad if he was scum. I don't think Mafia had much thread presence at all. On February 23 2014 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's entirely different thing to lynch your scumbuddy who will most likely get lynched anyways later on because they are incapable of playing mafia aligned then to lynch a godfather from the start and not even try to do anything about it all D1. I like these two points. If it's true that Mafia has no thread presence, then maybe the rest of mafia ARE in Balla/kush/slam and maybe oats. | ||
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... Actually prplhz is a good player right? If he's thinking like me, and my thought pattern is bad, then he was playing bad, so then he's scum? lol. | ||
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On February 21 2014 11:13 prplhz wrote: i don't think i gave a read on toad so let me say that i never really understood the case (rayn's 3 options and that stuff) at all but i don't think he did a lot this game so i'm not opposed to a toad lynch at all which is a really dull read that doesn't say anything. He ends up sheeping the read in the end. He spends the day trying to push koshi, kush then oats. He actually puts some effort going after Koshi but when it doesn't catch on he kinda just drops it. On February 21 2014 06:45 prplhz wrote: i'm done with kush because i don't think i've seen him try to contribute above the bare minimum and now he's just taking the piss out of marv for some reason. ##Vote VIVAX420 i don't like Koshi either "i did it for the lulz or mb i was srs?" is really not a good explanation for anything. can't let these people roam free. kush, step it up and blaze it 420 and then stop arguing with marv and do something instead If Palmar is town for lynching godfather day 1 and not trying to push anyone else, then prplhz definitely looks like he could be scum for staying away from toad lynch until late and trying to push attention onto other people. | ||
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- his initial case On February 20 2014 22:33 prplhz wrote: I don't think raynpelikoneet is bad and dumb. I faintly recall that I think he is actually quite good. Doesn't mean he can't do a dumb thing now and then though. I also recall that kushmasta was loud and flaky and that's not what I'm seeing this game at all, so while he's been a little easier to play with I'm uncertain about him simply because of that. I don't like railroading Toadesstern this early. Koshi also looks bad to me. I don't really understand his posts. First he's okay with raynpelikoneet's plan. Then he doesn't understand it? I think scum are more likely to want to talk about who someone is instead of just playing. He also doesn't actually contribute to the whole discussion around raynpelikoneet, he's around posting one liners like: "This is some high level shit and that's why I'm not contributing" I don't think townies think that, they think "Everybody should know my opinion because it's the right one to have". Like, his filter is full of nothing and he doesn't seem to be trying to actually having an influence on the game. A lot of his trolling also seem weird and out of place. - way later in the game comments about Koshi On February 21 2014 06:45 prplhz wrote: i'm done with kush because i don't think i've seen him try to contribute above the bare minimum and now he's just taking the piss out of marv for some reason. ##Vote VIVAX420 i don't like Koshi either "i did it for the lulz or mb i was srs?" is really not a good explanation for anything. can't let these people roam free. kush, step it up and blaze it 420 and then stop arguing with marv and do something instead This post is way after my case on Koshi that everyone tore apart and people came to the conclusion that Koshi was town. But here he isn't saying that Koshi looks scum, it just seems like he's trying to push a policy lynch on Koshi or something. | ||
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On February 23 2014 03:05 Palmar wrote: suko why didn't you instajoin the toad wagon which was good but you instajoined my shit wagon on kush I didn't join your wagon on kush, I gave my thoughts and provided reasoning. What are your thoughts on Balla, Palmar? | ||
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I feel like Balla's read on Marv this game feels rigid and unnatural. On February 21 2014 14:49 Balla24 wrote: Marv is generating a LOT of content and asking plenty of good questions. But he also seems content to just sit within a shit storm and let it happen/contribute to it which is scummy. He has one instance of trying to move the thread forward during one of those shit storms (during the toad debacle) in which he suggests to move forward since we aren't going to get anything more out of it, however that was way after and was actually producing useful content. I'm referencing things like his conversation with kush. On February 22 2014 02:54 Balla24 wrote: lol marv... you just need to realize that just because you are under "questionable" does not mean i'm not leaning town on you... I doubt you are scum, there is just stuff that is annoying that you do. @oats thats not true. rayn consistently has a massive filter as scum. On February 22 2014 03:06 Balla24 wrote: I'm not!!! Jesus. What does it matter if i put him as obv town or slightly town ... there was stuff that was annoying me that's atll!! Fine he's obv town who cares what difference does it make holy crap Mmm. How does he go from Marv is scummy for sitting in/contributing to a shitstorm, to marv is obv town with just a little bit of pressure? Seems weak. Like a scum trying to get heat off his back. Would expect a townie to stand up for his read if he really thought marv was "questionable". Balla has been really conscious of his early play and I find that scummy. One of his points on why he thought kush was scummy was because kush didn't think he was scummy early. Balla's attack on toad was because toad's case was bad on him, but he didn't refute that his early game looked scummy. Mmm.. yeah if you're town... why would you be so conscious of having a weak start? You wouldn't really think about how your play was you'd just barrel forward with your guns blazing. + Show Spoiler + On February 21 2014 02:57 Balla24 wrote: I'm really really surprised Kush hasn't called me scum yet. I don't think Kush is interested in people's alignments, the past 2 games he has called me scum when my openings were weaker. There's a bunch of stuff that is not saying anything about somebody's alignment. I really would have expected kush to call someone scum by now. Kush who is scum? On February 21 2014 07:09 Balla24 wrote: Don't twist my words here lol!! I'm saying kush is scum because he doesn't seem interested in anybody's alignments like usual. I would have expected to call me scum FOR my early game because it is a bit similar to other times he called me scum, not that my early game IS scummy. The reason he came up for not doing so is because he thinks i'm bad now? That's ridiculous. There's other points where kush is not interested in finding out alignments he is just making generic waffly statements and mostly asking boring generic questions. Which is what my first post about kush was based on that I think you missed because you keep asking where my kush read came from even though it's there. On February 21 2014 07:11 Balla24 wrote: No, not his reasoning for townreading me. His reasoning for not jumping on me for "not doing shit" like he normally does. His reason for townreading me is ok since it's based on activity but it's not a solid townread. It is something I would expect him to throw out though. I find it weird that someone would write a meta case on what LITTLE i had in the thread at that time, especially in comparison to what everybody else was doing in regards to me which was just "wait and see". I think it's a weak attempt to try to draw attention to someone who opened pretty weakly. | ||
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On February 22 2014 09:26 Balla24 wrote: sad that i literally cant come up with any conclusions from that... people need better reasoningzzz... Palmar is likely town. He says this after writing his big post analyzing the lynch votes. | ||
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