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ok so rayn is scum.
His attitude towards Toad doesnt coincide with his read on him at all.
On February 20 2014 10:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 10:48 Toadesstern wrote:On February 20 2014 10:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar the problem is not that if you make it clear or not. It's if other people think you are being clear or not which is not always so easily said. You know how this shit works, scum misrepresent everything people do because that's how you lynch townies. Why not reduce the possible amount of misrepresentations by an easy policy that does no harm in any case? there's plenty of people throwing around votes in every single game, for fun, for policy, for random reasons or whatever else. So if it's not a problem in any other game, why do you think it's going to be a problem in this one to the point that you think we should make a "no voting someone else unless you're super certain" policy? Do you actually think it's something that should be policy in every game? That's not what i am saying. Stop fucking twisting my words or l2read. I am already getting mad at you and that's not what i want.
On February 20 2014 11:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 11:04 Toadesstern wrote:
I wasn't able to come up with a reason for you to propose what you did as town while being able come up with a reasoning for it as mafia despite it being a sketchy reasoning. So I wanted you to explain yourself.
It's basicly the same way I caught mafia the last game were you got me lynched. Remember the miller thing that I pointed out 3 hours into the game and I wasn't sure what to make of it early on? It's literally the same thing and I'm not liking it one bit. Well i came up with a reasoning, why is my reasoning not possible and how does it not line up with my actions in thread? Just because you don't understand something does not mean i can't possibly make sense.
On February 20 2014 11:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't give a fuck about what you did last game because if you had "caught mafia" you would have lynched VayneAutority which you did not do.
From these quotes, I assume rayn thinks Toad is pretty scummy but then he ranks him the most townie out of a group of people?
On February 20 2014 21:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:From prplhz/suki/Toad Toad looks the most townie to me. I actually get his vote and the reasoning and what he says (even the point marv voted him for) from townie perspective. The only post that looks really bad to me is this one: Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 10:48 Toadesstern wrote:On February 20 2014 10:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar the problem is not that if you make it clear or not. It's if other people think you are being clear or not which is not always so easily said. You know how this shit works, scum misrepresent everything people do because that's how you lynch townies. Why not reduce the possible amount of misrepresentations by an easy policy that does no harm in any case? there's plenty of people throwing around votes in every single game, for fun, for policy, for random reasons or whatever else. So if it's not a problem in any other game, why do you think it's going to be a problem in this one to the point that you think we should make a "no voting someone else unless you're super certain" policy? Do you actually think it's something that should be policy in every game? Because this is totally not what i said and it proves Toad is not really even reading my posts or trying to understand me.
And the post he quotes he didnt even bring up earlier in the thread even though he was clearly around. It feels like he was specifically looking for something that looks bad to have a read that he is able to switch off of. Its very wishy washy and feels like scum on scum.
Then he calls marv scum 8 hours after calling him town pretty confidently.
On February 21 2014 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:marv pretty much yes, you idk yet.
On February 21 2014 08:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay this answer is scum.
marv is mafia.
##unvote
#vote: marvellosoty
OH GOD THIS IS SO GOOD!
Literally no reasoning attached to this at all even later even though rayn is so super confident, clearly chainsaw defending toad by attacking his main attacker. And immediately after that, he hard defends Toad for nothing.
On February 22 2014 04:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2014 22:14 Palmar wrote:
I have a plan. If toad flips mafia we lynch Oats, if he flips town we lynch kush. This plan is really bad because they are mosty likely all town. I don't even know where my vote is at so: ##unvote
Vote: sukiToad will flip town. There is no direction in suki's play, not before i left the thread and not after. marv does not see it and instead of saying so he ignores the scummy stuff suki does and "goes on to find something townie". He even said later on "when i find scummy things i pressure those people into posting what i want to totally make up my mind on them. That's not what he is doing with suki at all and it's either terrible or scum. Fucking 14 pages of filter is the only thing that makes me doubt myself... Balla is also most likely mafia. trust me, Toad will flip town.
On February 22 2014 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Toad's play makes no sense from mafia perspective and at the start of the game noone payed attention to marv's case on him enough to vote for him and now pretty much everyone is voting for him. Noone has even given any reasoning for their votes other than marv and Palmar.
Not good reasons at all to defend Toad. He never tries seriously either to defend Toad, just is all offended that we are lynching Toad.
And he is angry when Toad flips scum. Wouldnt he be happy that 1/3 of the scum are dead? Apparently not.
On February 22 2014 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:wow so some players are just fucking terrible. I thought people would be better than that. Anyways i am not needed here, scum are lurkers because noone opposed Toad lynch. Something like kush and sidesprang then. waiting for tha next game, you got this marv. 
Fake check on Balla which rayn acts really irrationally afterwards and spends 1 page commenting on the how Balla was 100% red. Totally shuts down Balla who is trying to interact with Rayn and get his opinion, but Rayn doesnt want to explain anything because he doesnt have a good explaination and is just going, "SCUMSCUMSCUMSCUM". He gives up after a while after 'destroying' balla's case. I dont see him trying to convince anyone else of Balla's scummyness and in fact, Balla is more engaging the thread than rayn who again is irrationally angry. Rayn always explains his shit as town and he doesnt get angry when he catches scum.
Rayn scum.
##vote Rayn
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On February 25 2014 00:38 Balla24 wrote:
Why would scum RB kush, out of all people? It makes more sense for the RB to have been suki, but she was townreading kush before she died so that doesn't make sense either.
What is this post trying to say?
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slam.
Oh yeah he never really talks about slam at all other than,
On February 22 2014 11:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Slam too serious to be town.
On February 22 2014 22:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well in the end it does not really matter. I get my fun from games because people try to play and arguing with scum is fun. Apparently in this game scum didn't try at all. This game is not fun. So basically marv, Palmar, Balla and Koshi have to be town. If i trust the read on prplhz fine. I also think Oats is town.
So kush, Slam, smurf and suki. Can easily lynch all 4, if there is a vigi, even better. There is no challenge in this game any more.
so he's attacking slam right?
Then he defends him obliquely.
On February 23 2014 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is Slam mafia?
And never follows up on this. Odd? yes.
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yeah but thats before balla town claimed and you went to jack off or somehting.
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On February 25 2014 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well the reason i am scum for isn't the ones in your case then now is it?
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what a noob.
Balla, slam was scum. That wasnt the point of my case. My case is basically, flip flopped on Toad for no reason and flip flopped on marv for no reason and never mentioned slam other than 2 times even though you were so super sure that he was scum.
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uh no.
+ Show Spoiler +On February 22 2014 22:30 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 22:21 marvellosity wrote:On February 22 2014 22:18 Oatsmaster wrote:On February 22 2014 22:14 marvellosity wrote:On February 22 2014 22:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
why so srs marv? Like sure I couldve gone, "sheep marv bla bla" and that makes me a 'good' player?
Thats not right.
yes, it is actually. A competent player knows when to sheep someone better than them rather than going "this guy is definitely gonna flip town" just to troll. That's exactly right in fact. wow k good for you marv. Without being snippy for a moment. Who was the player, who when I made my original points on Toad, went "yeah that's good, toad is mafia"? Palmar. Palmar understood a good point made by someone else and rolled with it, because he is good. I dont think you understand context. Its ok though. I didnt call Toad town till you called him 95% scum. ANYWAY, other than smurfdude, I think alak is an excellent lynch for tmr. His joking posts feel totally fake and contrived and he didnt even come to a read about the only person he looked at, me. And then just posted a few more really confusing posts with many 'hijole' for no reason. Alak is capable of posting ok stuff as town but struggles as scum. On February 22 2014 22:30 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 22:21 marvellosity wrote:On February 22 2014 22:18 Oatsmaster wrote:On February 22 2014 22:14 marvellosity wrote:On February 22 2014 22:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
why so srs marv? Like sure I couldve gone, "sheep marv bla bla" and that makes me a 'good' player?
Thats not right.
yes, it is actually. A competent player knows when to sheep someone better than them rather than going "this guy is definitely gonna flip town" just to troll. That's exactly right in fact. wow k good for you marv. Without being snippy for a moment. Who was the player, who when I made my original points on Toad, went "yeah that's good, toad is mafia"? Palmar. Palmar understood a good point made by someone else and rolled with it, because he is good. I dont think you understand context. Its ok though. I didnt call Toad town till you called him 95% scum. ANYWAY, other than smurfdude, I think alak is an excellent lynch for tmr. His joking posts feel totally fake and contrived and he didnt even come to a read about the only person he looked at, me. And then just posted a few more really confusing posts with many 'hijole' for no reason. Alak is capable of posting ok stuff as town but struggles as scum. On February 23 2014 01:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
+1.
Marv lynch alak tmr?
On February 23 2014 00:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont think thrawn knows about balla's or my meta though. mannnnn.
Anyway thoughts on alak, marv and palmar?
On February 24 2014 19:50 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2014 19:48 Koshi wrote:On February 24 2014 19:45 Oatsmaster wrote:On February 24 2014 19:34 marvellosity wrote:
Literally Oats saw Balla's post, saw the first paragraph, and commented "so defensive" without reading anything else. I did read it. And it was really defensive. That was the point of the post. He was also top lynch target. Oats. Which 4 can be last scummers. Are there combination that don't work anymore? rayn Kush Alakaslam prplhz prp isnt scum, rayn isnt scum, kush claims scum multiple times and alak who has problems playing as scum is not playing so hes my second choice. On February 24 2014 22:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
damn then if alak flips town im totally gonna die.
I DUNNO THOUGH, can we lynch koshi for being way too trusting of kush?
##vote koshi
but slam flipped scum and Rayn kept calling him scum but never pushed him for lynch.
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On February 25 2014 16:49 Koshi wrote:
Lynch Oats first.
I got feels he knew Slam was mafia and tried to use this fact to first frame me and then rayn. I got to go over those quotes again but you probably remembered me saying something like that yesterday. It was when he decided to vote me when we all voted slam.
But it's d3 so I guess lynching rayn is fine as well. rayn wasnt raynie this game. Also 3 JoaT sounds like rayn scumgame.
I knew slam was mafia. Yes I did know slam was mafia, it was obvious. Although the sidesprang shit faked me out for a bit.
Im not sure what point you are making.
I thought you were scummy because you unvoted kush SO FAST LIKE "hey guys im JOAT", "unvote". And generally scum do that because they know whether its likely to be true or not. But then rayn looked scummier so I currently think that hes the scummate, also his interactions with Toad and slam are weird.
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nah he just got lazy cause he was confirmed town and we are winning.
Rayn!
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So does he explain why he votes for Toad anywhere?
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yeah like that vote did nothing for him. No cred, no nothing. Purely because he is a team player. Scum always have an agenda for their votes. prp doesnt. Prp town.
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On February 25 2014 20:11 marvellosity wrote:
Oats had this funny conversation with me on day 1 where he tried to convince me what sidesprang did with his rando-vote was more likely to come from town when I was saying I could see a mafia-sidesprang just not bothering and making some vote.
Oh sorry i was wrong off 1 post marv.
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It was an excellent argument though.
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When exactly do you mean by quite fast there koshi?
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Its only koshi prp, not like everyone.
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On February 26 2014 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also in the end my vote landed on Slam and Oats' vote landed on me who was scum by association to Slam's alignment.
bad, very bad.
this is literally the worst point Ive seen anyone make. Does it matter where my vote ends up Rayn? Why are you concerned? Because you purposely voted slam to look better. Townies dont care about that shit. Scum care. rayn scum ezpz.
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think with your head koshi. Why does Rayn only show up now?
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Because he wants to avoid getting lynched.
HAH.!
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EPT
