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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 23 2014 03:35 GMT
#2123
Like kush, you can't possibly trust a self-meta analysis because people can just straight up lie to make it fit better to their wincon so easily.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 23 2014 03:49 GMT
#2125
Ok so moving on, you still sticking with the bussing theory ?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 23 2014 04:55 GMT
#2127
You should pm sylencia, but until then you should keep playing IMO.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 23 2014 05:27 GMT
#2129
More on rayn:

Rayn states that it will be very easy to read me and it will solely be based on the amount of content I produce.

On February 20 2014 22:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 22:25 Palmar wrote:
The one guy I need to read is this balla

Don't worry that's most likely gonna be quite easy.


On February 20 2014 22:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 22:25 Palmar wrote:
The one guy I need to read to post more is this balla
If Balla does not post a lot more content he is mafia.




I know rayn isn't going to answer this anyways because he has no interest in defending himself against me for some reason but: What changed here? Apparently i'm not easily readable anymore? Apparently i'm obv scum because why exactly? Does anybody know why rayn thinks im scum besides the fact that I think he's scum and the fact that the timing on toad's case on me and my case on toad is "weird"?

+ Show Spoiler +

On February 22 2014 23:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
This is weird btw:
Toad makes a case on Balla - February 21 2014 02:12
Balla says kush and smurf are his scumreads - February 21 2014 05:49
Balla makes a case on Toad - February 21 2014 14:49

Now, Balla's case on Toad is mainly because of the bad case on him. Why was that not a concern earlier?
I need to check what happened between here (at least Balla voted for kush) and if this can be a bus.
I really really don't like his defense on suki. It reads more like "i defend suki because Toad is flipping mafia and then i can call rayn scum" rather than "i think suki is town". Maybe he can still be mafia.




Hey rayn rayn rayn, why does that make me mafia? You didn't explain it.

Here's another hypocrisy from rayn:

On February 21 2014 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What's wrong in suki's case is that she says basically same stuff me, Palmar and prplhz talked about earlier. She is not interested in why we do not think that makes Koshi scummy, instead she makes a case where she already knows the stuff she is going to say is "right", it's a safe case because it's already agreed on before it's even posted. But in the end she expresses the thought "i know my case might not be good enough so i'll vote for Toad later on if you guys want to".

I don't see the "this is why Koshi is mafia" type of thing.
I see "here is a safe contribution".

That's my interpretation of that post.


He says that suki is mafia because he thinks she's writing something as a "safe contribution". Yet:

On February 22 2014 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Seriously, look at this:
Show nested quote +
Toad's only scum read seems to be me. That's pretty bad... especially considering his case on me was almost solely based on early game meta, and even though I agree that my early game could possibly be interpreted as similar to my scum games, I think he was purposefully misrepresenting both what I was saying in the early game, and the context which you can see what I said about it here:

I find it weird that someone would write a meta case on what LITTLE i had in the thread at that time, especially in comparison to what everybody else was doing in regards to me which was just "wait and see". I think it's a weak attempt to try to draw attention to someone who opened pretty weakly.

I think it's annoying that he focused so heavily on the rayn subject and responding to questioning about it. May not be his fault, but even if I was in his shoes I would have attempted to get my opinions out on somebody else as well. I wasn't around so I don't know how rapid fire this stuff was going on. As soon as it ended he wrote a case on me and then nothing else. Looking forward to his contributions in the rest of the day.

1) so he called something scummy scummy. it makes him mafia?
2) not scummy in the slightest
3) i don't even know what this is about. Toad did something and then did something else? That makes him mafia. WHAT THE FUCK?

When I make the same point about toad, he calls it "not scummy in the slightest".
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 23 2014 05:31 GMT
#2130
I'm going to bed, i'll be up by like 5-6pm koshi time to alleviate all your doubts as usual.

Please give me opinions!! If you think i'm being an idiot on rayn, tell me and tell me why. If you think I might be right but would like me to stop tunneling, tell me.
Literally nobody has said a word about either of my rayn cases (even rayn tbh) except for suki.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 23 2014 05:32 GMT
#2131
Also EBWOP on the last sentence of the case for clarity.

Should read: When I make the same point about toad, he calls it "not scummy in the slightest. in #2.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 23 2014 15:54 GMT
#2186
On February 23 2014 23:56 Koshi wrote:
I read all the things but cant check them. But did the puppy say Balla was scum before resolution? Also it isnt fair to use both deaths against balla because one was killed by town. I also do not like the vote analysis because prplhz for instance has done shitall since Palmar has been vouching for him. The reasons to why Palmar finds him town did not repeat themsleves anymore. He is in the shadows. I mean, there is room for somebody else being scum on the toad wagon. Why was Palmar not shot? He was on Puppy, so shooting puppy makes "confirmed" town look elsewhere. Meh.

Balla big post very townie still.

rayn knows balla very well. He lynched him twice and played scum with him. That scumgame I was in the game and it does not look like this. Why is rayn so irrational? It pisses me off because he is bad. He knows balla and can make a real case if he wants. Instead we get this retarded garbage that is retarded. Even I push rayn with more reaskning than this when I am in tunnel.

Currently not near pc. 4 hours from now I will be. But will phonepost some.

Koshi can you reword the last paragraph here? Kinda cant understand whos actions you are referring to at some points.

In prplhz, he has done nothing yet this day that coincides with my reaaon for townreading him yeterday which is somewhat worrisome.

Anyways still in bed dont wanna get up yet so phoneposting lelelel
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 23 2014 15:58 GMT
#2188
Guys still none has commented on my rayn case seriously yet. This leads me to believe that it is bad and i would like to know why... If you guys arent consisering it because you think im scum then you need to start considering it cause youre gonna need to eventually if you continue this lynch.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 23 2014 16:08 GMT
#2196
Whaaaat koshi what does that even mean
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 23 2014 16:09 GMT
#2198
On February 24 2014 01:07 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 01:04 marvellosity wrote:
On February 23 2014 23:56 Koshi wrote:
I read all the things but cant check them. But did the puppy say Balla was scum before resolution? Also it isnt fair to use both deaths against balla because one was killed by town. I also do not like the vote analysis because prplhz for instance has done shitall since Palmar has been vouching for him. The reasons to why Palmar finds him town did not repeat themsleves anymore. He is in the shadows. I mean, there is room for somebody else being scum on the toad wagon. Why was Palmar not shot? He was on Puppy, so shooting puppy makes "confirmed" town look elsewhere. Meh.

Balla big post very townie still.

rayn knows balla very well. He lynched him twice and played scum with him. That scumgame I was in the game and it does not look like this. Why is rayn so irrational? It pisses me off because he is bad. He knows balla and can make a real case if he wants. Instead we get this retarded garbage that is retarded. Even I push rayn with more reaskning than this when I am in tunnel.

Currently not near pc. 4 hours from now I will be. But will phonepost some.

what?

What I meant is that it is not scum balla panicking and shooting both cuz they are on to him. But sure they flipped town so they legit found balla scummy somewhere.

I dont like balla lynch.

In reference to this.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 23 2014 16:16 GMT
#2205
On February 24 2014 01:10 marvellosity wrote:
No-one suggested Balla shot the people who found him suspicious, the point was that flipped confirmed townies found things about him suspicious.

And the fact that i was saying suki was town when no one else and i was right. I can understand how that looks odd but youre not looking if i had any good reasoning for doing so. Also not looking at the fact that I have been the only person to play every single game with suki since her return to mafia in newbie li.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 23 2014 16:34 GMT
#2207
No offense to suki here. But the fact that you are respecting sukis game but not mine is quite annoying. Remember what i said during that time? Her thought process was awful on how she went from kush scum me town to kush town me scum.... It was all based on kush and very very loosely based on me.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 23 2014 16:44 GMT
#2209
Thats the thing marv, youre looking at it all from the pov that im scum because your case is purely circumstantial.

"if hes scum that explains why he wouldnt comment on my toad case
If hes scum that explains why he had a correct read on suki when nobody else does"

"sukis town and she happened to be thinking balla was scum at her time of death...
Cfp same"

Like almost all this stuff is completely above me, i cant do anything about it since they are dead and i cant change their minds. Can you please tell me if you yourself thought my reaction to rayn was scummy or townie and wht? What about sukis thought process made sense to you so i can actually defend myself against your case marv.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 23 2014 16:45 GMT
#2210
Brb for 20 shower and breakfast
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 23 2014 16:59 GMT
#2212
Kush is cutefluffypuppy(the smurf) confirmed town?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 23 2014 17:12 GMT
#2215
I'm pretty sure that was a slip, so yeahh....
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 23 2014 17:16 GMT
#2217
Me neither but that's just more evidence. IMO.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 23 2014 17:19 GMT
#2219
Maybe, first off why didnt you know suki was dead already and secondly why was your first reaction "oh she got vigged" instead of "which one was the vig shot and which one was the scum shot". It's like you knew CFP was dead, but didnt know suki was dead, and then you found out suki died too and immediately knew she was the vig shot.


Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 23 2014 17:21 GMT
#2221
Exactly! So you're scum claiming the shot on CFP?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 23 2014 17:24 GMT
#2223
because you didnt look at the day2 post and knew already? Quick find where you figured out that CFP was nightkilled and quote it quick quick!!
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