I know rayn isn't going to answer this anyways because he has no interest in defending himself against me for some reason but: What changed here? Apparently i'm not easily readable anymore? Apparently i'm obv scum because why exactly? Does anybody know why rayn thinks im scum besides the fact that I think he's scum and the fact that the timing on toad's case on me and my case on toad is "weird"?

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On February 22 2014 23:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
This is weird btw:
Toad makes a case on Balla - February 21 2014 02:12
Balla says kush and smurf are his scumreads - February 21 2014 05:49
Balla makes a case on Toad - February 21 2014 14:49

Now, Balla's case on Toad is mainly because of the bad case on him. Why was that not a concern earlier?
I need to check what happened between here (at least Balla voted for kush) and if this can be a bus.
I really really don't like his defense on suki. It reads more like "i defend suki because Toad is flipping mafia and then i can call rayn scum" rather than "i think suki is town". Maybe he can still be mafia.

Hey rayn rayn rayn, why does that make me mafia? You didn't explain it.

Here's another hypocrisy from rayn:

On February 21 2014 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What's wrong in suki's case is that she says basically same stuff me, Palmar and prplhz talked about earlier. She is not interested in why we do not think that makes Koshi scummy, instead she makes a case where she already knows the stuff she is going to say is "right", it's a safe case because it's already agreed on before it's even posted. But in the end she expresses the thought "i know my case might not be good enough so i'll vote for Toad later on if you guys want to".

I don't see the "this is why Koshi is mafia" type of thing.
I see "here is a safe contribution".

That's my interpretation of that post.

He says that suki is mafia because he thinks she's writing something as a "safe contribution". Yet:

On February 22 2014 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Seriously, look at this:

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1) so he called something scummy scummy. it makes him mafia?
2) not scummy in the slightest
3) i don't even know what this is about. Toad did something and then did something else? That makes him mafia. WHAT THE FUCK?

When I make the same point about toad, he calls it "not scummy in the slightest".

Balla24

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February 23 2014 05:31 GMT

#2130

I'm going to bed, i'll be up by like 5-6pm koshi time to alleviate all your doubts as usual.

Please give me opinions!! If you think i'm being an idiot on rayn, tell me and tell me why. If you think I might be right but would like me to stop tunneling, tell me.
Literally nobody has said a word about either of my rayn cases (even rayn tbh) except for suki.

Balla24

2322 Posts

February 23 2014 05:32 GMT

#2131

Also EBWOP on the last sentence of the case for clarity.

Should read: When I make the same point about toad, he calls it "not scummy in the slightest. in #2.

Balla24

2322 Posts

February 23 2014 15:54 GMT

#2186

On February 23 2014 23:56 Koshi wrote:
I read all the things but cant check them. But did the puppy say Balla was scum before resolution? Also it isnt fair to use both deaths against balla because one was killed by town. I also do not like the vote analysis because prplhz for instance has done shitall since Palmar has been vouching for him. The reasons to why Palmar finds him town did not repeat themsleves anymore. He is in the shadows. I mean, there is room for somebody else being scum on the toad wagon. Why was Palmar not shot? He was on Puppy, so shooting puppy makes "confirmed" town look elsewhere. Meh.

Balla big post very townie still.

rayn knows balla very well. He lynched him twice and played scum with him. That scumgame I was in the game and it does not look like this. Why is rayn so irrational? It pisses me off because he is bad. He knows balla and can make a real case if he wants. Instead we get this retarded garbage that is retarded. Even I push rayn with more reaskning than this when I am in tunnel.

Currently not near pc. 4 hours from now I will be. But will phonepost some.

Koshi can you reword the last paragraph here? Kinda cant understand whos actions you are referring to at some points.

In prplhz, he has done nothing yet this day that coincides with my reaaon for townreading him yeterday which is somewhat worrisome.

Anyways still in bed dont wanna get up yet so phoneposting lelelel

Balla24

2322 Posts

February 23 2014 15:58 GMT

#2188

Guys still none has commented on my rayn case seriously yet. This leads me to believe that it is bad and i would like to know why... If you guys arent consisering it because you think im scum then you need to start considering it cause youre gonna need to eventually if you continue this lynch.

Balla24

2322 Posts

February 23 2014 16:08 GMT

#2196

Whaaaat koshi what does that even mean

Balla24

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February 23 2014 16:09 GMT

#2198

On February 24 2014 01:07 Koshi wrote:

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What I meant is that it is not scum balla panicking and shooting both cuz they are on to him. But sure they flipped town so they legit found balla scummy somewhere.

I dont like balla lynch.

In reference to this.

Balla24

2322 Posts

February 23 2014 16:16 GMT

#2205

On February 24 2014 01:10 marvellosity wrote:
No-one suggested Balla shot the people who found him suspicious, the point was that flipped confirmed townies found things about him suspicious.

And the fact that i was saying suki was town when no one else and i was right. I can understand how that looks odd but youre not looking if i had any good reasoning for doing so. Also not looking at the fact that I have been the only person to play every single game with suki since her return to mafia in newbie li.

Balla24

2322 Posts

February 23 2014 16:34 GMT

#2207

No offense to suki here. But the fact that you are respecting sukis game but not mine is quite annoying. Remember what i said during that time? Her thought process was awful on how she went from kush scum me town to kush town me scum.... It was all based on kush and very very loosely based on me.

Balla24

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February 23 2014 16:44 GMT

#2209

Thats the thing marv, youre looking at it all from the pov that im scum because your case is purely circumstantial.

"if hes scum that explains why he wouldnt comment on my toad case
If hes scum that explains why he had a correct read on suki when nobody else does"

"sukis town and she happened to be thinking balla was scum at her time of death...
Cfp same"

Like almost all this stuff is completely above me, i cant do anything about it since they are dead and i cant change their minds. Can you please tell me if you yourself thought my reaction to rayn was scummy or townie and wht? What about sukis thought process made sense to you so i can actually defend myself against your case marv.

Balla24

2322 Posts

February 23 2014 16:45 GMT

#2210

Brb for 20 shower and breakfast

Balla24

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February 23 2014 16:59 GMT

#2212

Kush is cutefluffypuppy(the smurf) confirmed town?

Balla24

2322 Posts

February 23 2014 17:12 GMT

#2215

I'm pretty sure that was a slip, so yeahh....

Balla24

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February 23 2014 17:16 GMT

#2217

Me neither but that's just more evidence. IMO.

Balla24

2322 Posts

February 23 2014 17:19 GMT

#2219

Maybe, first off why didnt you know suki was dead already and secondly why was your first reaction "oh she got vigged" instead of "which one was the vig shot and which one was the scum shot". It's like you knew CFP was dead, but didnt know suki was dead, and then you found out suki died too and immediately knew she was the vig shot.

Balla24

2322 Posts

February 23 2014 17:21 GMT

#2221

Exactly! So you're scum claiming the shot on CFP?

Balla24

2322 Posts

February 23 2014 17:24 GMT

#2223

because you didnt look at the day2 post and knew already? Quick find where you figured out that CFP was nightkilled and quote it quick quick!!