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suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 14:16 GMT
#441
Koshi what do you think of Oat's vote on sidesprang?
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 14:16 GMT
#442
wait scratch that you answered right after he voted lollll
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 14:18 GMT
#443
On February 07 2014 21:16 Koshi wrote:
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On February 07 2014 08:51 jaybrundage wrote:
Ok Town I suggest that you read up on Balla and Koshi. Look at there posts and think if it makes more sense that they are town, or if it makes more sense for them to both be scum. I would like to narrow the lynch between these two candidates.

Thank you for your time. I wanna leave soon but might wait around a bit to see if anything juicy pops up.

This is such fucking bullshit btw. No way a townie says that with what he got. No fucking way.


Seconding the motion that this is bullshit.

@Jay Tell me your reasons for wanting to narrow the lynch between Balla and Koshi 2 hours into the game?
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 14:21 GMT
#444
@Aquanim
Who do you find scummy right now?
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 14:34 GMT
#446
What about him throwing suspicion on Aqua didn't you like?
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 14:44 GMT
#449
Do you think what he says is true?
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 14:47 GMT
#451
On February 07 2014 12:15 Aquanim wrote:
Hey guys I'd like to discuss Suki

Filter in the original game as town: Asks lots of questions, discusses reads, VERY direct

Filter in this game: Mostly trolly one-liners about "King" Balla, doesn't talk much about reads unless directly asked, is not asking many questions.

I haven't thoroughly meta-d Suki but I'm really feeling a serious gap in her attitude between the two games.

I can't see any reason in Suki's filter to think she is town so far. Does anyone else have any?


What do you think of me currently Aqua? Has your opinion that you don't see anything to think I'm town changed?

What are your conclusions about the meta case on me?
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 14:50 GMT
#452
The royal family thanks you for your assistance in these matters, Chancellor Koshi. I am grateful for your wise input.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 14:52 GMT
#454
On February 07 2014 23:50 Koshi wrote:
Nha, I don't want to be the Chancellor. I get this image in my head of a sneaky guy that spits venom in the ear of the King.

Make me Lord. Lord Koshi.


Wahaha yesss the Chancellor is always evil >D

Very well then my subject. I shall dub thee, Lord Koshi of Koshington.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 15:04 GMT
#455
On February 07 2014 12:22 jaybrundage wrote:
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On February 07 2014 12:15 Aquanim wrote:
Hey guys I'd like to discuss Suki

Filter in the original game as town: Asks lots of questions, discusses reads, VERY direct

Filter in this game: Mostly trolly one-liners about "King" Balla, doesn't talk much about reads unless directly asked, is not asking many questions.

I haven't thoroughly meta-d Suki but I'm really feeling a serious gap in her attitude between the two games.

I can't see any reason in Suki's filter to think she is town so far. Does anyone else have any?

Yea I didn't like her play so much as I mentioned in my response to her earlier. I hesitated on calling her scum tho lol. I had already been pretty ambitious with calling people scum this game.

I found it odd that she ignored my correction of her post where she is trolling me. But is completely wrong on it because she mixed up which post came first. I would of expected an opps or oh my thing. But she didn't even comment on it. That just seemed odd to me. As suki is usually first to make amends when she makes a mistake.


I keep forgetting to comment on this. I did get the order wrong, my bad.

suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 15:58 GMT
#470
Apparently I suck at reading comprehension. I'm looking forward to your updated thoughts on Oats.

Is there any one else who you find scummy?

Still would like your opinion of Balla on record.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 15:58 GMT
#471
(that was directed at sidesprang)
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 16:32 GMT
#477
What do people think about lynching slam or LoneMeow for pulling the same 24 hour disappearance trick that Hopeless did in the previous game?

I know that slam can check the game from his phone and has no qualms about posting from his phone. This behaviour is not typical of either of them.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 16:51 GMT
#480
What if they start posting Hopeless?

As I recall last game you were gone, then you came back and started making posts, which convinced me and a few others that you were ok to not vote for D1 lynch. Do you think the same should apply to this game with LM and slam if they start posting soon?

What would clear them in your minds, assuming they aren't going to be modkilled/replaced?
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 16:52 GMT
#481
EBWOP: What would clear them in your mind*
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 17:05 GMT
#484
"Off" there's that word that you jumped on Koshi so hard for at the beginning of the day.

Care to rephrase in more solid terms?
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 17:29 GMT
#492
Hm.. I can definitely post quotes but I didn't want to spam the thread.

I guess I'll do that now.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 18:29 GMT
#504
Jay's play in previous games:

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Scum in Roulette Mini Mafia
On June 04 2013 09:13 jaybrundage wrote:
So im down with the whole claim role thing. But if the scum can also get the roles it doesnt really lead us to any lynches.
But i guess the point of it would be transparency and all that jazz.

I hate playing with people i never played with before I cant rely on previous experiences Also if anyone has not played with me I would suggest reading a previous game or two I play rather..... unorthodox (I occasionally be hardcore lynchbait D:)

Kinda all over the place but I always feel like day 1 is just typing shit until someone says something questionable. Then the Rage-arguments take place :D



self-consciousness.

On June 05 2013 05:55 jaybrundage wrote:
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On June 05 2013 02:25 s0Lstice wrote:
Stutters, can you answer your own question? You are voting him (Oats) currently so I assume that you have some reason to think he is more likely to be scum than just a townie not particularly giving a shit.

My thinking is I have no idea on his alignment just yet. Generally though being totally careless of the threads opinion of you is a townie trait, so he has that going for now.

I gotta say I agree with layabout on jaybrundage. His entry into the thread was filled with trepidation

On June 04 2013 09:13 jaybrundage wrote:
So im down with the whole claim role thing. But if the scum can also get the roles it doesnt really lead us to any lynches.
But i guess the point of it would be transparency and all that jazz.

I hate playing with people i never played with before I cant rely on previous experiences Also if anyone has not played with me I would suggest reading a previous game or two I play rather..... unorthodox (I occasionally be hardcore lynchbait D

Kinda all over the place but I always feel like day 1 is just typing shit until someone says something questionable. Then the Rage-arguments take place :D



It looks to me like he is trying to defuse pressure on him before it even happens. 'I can't rely on previous experiences' is a prepackaged excuse to go light on scum hunting. 'I am occasionally lynch bate' is a prepackaged excuse for looking suspicious. It looks extremely self conscious. This point by layabout too is relevent.

On June 04 2013 09:29 layabout wrote:
On June 04 2013 09:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 04 2013 09:19 layabout wrote:
On June 04 2013 09:14 jaybrundage wrote:
On June 04 2013 08:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
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im all in on 31, spin the wheel m'boy.

I have drank heavily on the past night so I am taking a nap this day. Wake me up when the sun sets.

I have been drinking so i will not post for a while

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*pokes with stick*

pointless pressure



I'm just trollin' around with the theme, I didn't actually drink today nor yesterday. What is your concern jaybrundage?

If you say that you arent going to post, pressuring you for a contribution serves no purpose for a townie


Meaningless pressure. It's a way of looking useful without actually being useful (shit-flinging at somebody who isn't going to be around to take umbrage). This is the direction I want to go. He looks the scummiest of anybody so far.

##vote jaybrundage



Maybe you missed the post where i said to go look at previous games. I said that im often lynch bait because its true. As town i often get mislynched. I prefer for people to know this and take at look at my play rather then straight up die as town for my play.

Me poking someone with a stick is not pressure. The fact that you have that in your case shows how weak it is. Besides the fact that your just piggy backing of someone elses post.

The fact that you think a joke post is the scummiest post as of yet just shows your lack of a real case.

#Vote S0lstice


self-consciousness.

On June 05 2013 10:59 jaybrundage wrote:
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On June 05 2013 10:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 05 2013 10:55 Stutters695 wrote:
Well I don't have the time to do detailed analysis of everyone I want to look into right now but let's bounce some suspects.

First for me is Fuba. Check out his long post his only suspect has been Vayne and with his answer he takes some time to defend himself and waffles on Vayne. Very noncommittal, doesn't really pressure and has been mia. I haven't played with Fuba in ages but I remember him being much more active. Do you think he's strapped for time and town or a scummer getting by due to the relative inactivity.


I am waiting to see more from him but he's definitely on my radar, I am reading the thread just don't have much to contribute right now. These metagames and pointless accusations this early bore me.

Well how would you start day 1. I stuggle day one because there is no content to go off of. And the whole purpose is to create content.



excuses.

Scum in British Empire Mini Mafia II
On March 05 2013 19:31 jaybrundage wrote:
Meh, don't like that we already have an outed blue already. But whatever, no reason crying over spilled claims. Not sure what I think about the early votes. Its prolly people fooling around OR SCUM TRYING TO GET AN EASY LYNCH o.o
Buuuuut prolly za jokes.

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On March 05 2013 10:30 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On March 05 2013 10:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
And the problem with claiming that is what? HoP has no powers, mafia has no increased incentive to hit me that they wouldn't normally have. We can strike setup A off the list of possible setups.

You can't throw 3 joke votes down in a game like this. With a scumteam of 2, they can swoop in and force an instant mislynch. In the ensuing chaos it wouldn't be terribly difficult to swing suspicion onto one of the initial voters. However, I don't think any serious townie wouldn't have realized that. At least 1 scum I would imagine has already voted me.

##Vote: Mr. Cheesecake


You really think scum would hammer a random vote like that? That's recipe for getting owned the next day.


Also scum Yamato did this last game. And he got away with it D:

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On March 05 2013 16:32 Vivax wrote:
It's abut 8:30 AM here and I'm about to move out. I support a jay lynch for the time being until I see something that convinces me otherwise.

##Vote jaybrundage

Best mislynch NA

YOU KNOW THIS AND STILL VOTE ME QQ



joking attitude with mislynch comment.

On March 06 2013 11:01 jaybrundage wrote:
I saw this coming. People would comment on how i wanted to lynch Dandel but now my votes on thrawn. I wanted to vote dandel because of his complete lack of content in his posts. He (finally) started putting in at least some effort with going for Vivax. Which is a plus. He isn't a townie read my any means.

But I completly forgot about thrawn. When you mentioned him I remembered Lamp and his meta case on Thrawn as scum super lurking. That is exactly the case here. Once thrawn found out his role pm he legit stopped posting. He lurked super hard and attributed it to life reasons. Ill be damned if thrawn doesnt come back and give the same excuse.


Also if you recall Hapa I was going after DP and then you had a read on him so i backed down eventually I didn't want to do a 180 then because i was worried about how it would look. But if you have a town read on Vivax I respect that and wouldn't want to go against your reads regardless.



On March 06 2013 11:25 jaybrundage wrote:
I wasn't confident in my reads. I wanted to act like i was to try to put more pressure on them (dandel, vivax)
Never have been big on questioning my scum reads tbh. Thats more your forte. My reckoning is if someone is scum they wont give any satisfactory answers anyway. But ill try it out.

As for going with the flow. Your right. I prefer to go with people's reads I have a town read on. I have done this to death palmar and even you at points in games. I hate day 1 for a reason. There is no concrete information to go on.

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On March 06 2013 11:09 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Jay
Could you respond to the two other things I posted? (Going with the flow + Not questioning your scumreads)

I'm also a bit skeptical about how "convinced" you've seemed about your reads on Vivax/Dandel at times this game. You've openly admitted to hating Day 1 play, and you seemed very comfortable with these reads, which is pretty contradictory.

On March 06 2013 11:01 jaybrundage wrote:
I saw this coming. People would comment on how i wanted to lynch Dandel but now my votes on thrawn. I wanted to vote dandel because of his complete lack of content in his posts. He (finally) started putting in at least some effort with going for Vivax. Which is a plus. He isn't a townie read my any means.

But I completly forgot about thrawn. When you mentioned him I remembered Lamp and his meta case on Thrawn as scum super lurking. That is exactly the case here. Once thrawn found out his role pm he legit stopped posting. He lurked super hard and attributed it to life reasons. Ill be damned if thrawn doesnt come back and give the same excuse.

Also if you recall Hapa I was going after DP and then you had a read on him so i backed down eventually I didn't want to do a 180 then because i was worried about how it would look. But if you have a town read on Vivax I respect that and wouldn't want to go against your reads regardless.


I'd rather see you pursue your own ideas rather than acknowledge all of mine as 100% true.



self-consciousness.

Town in Nomination Mafia
On February 08 2013 13:52 jaybrundage wrote:
In regards to the bold isnt that what everyone does?

In all seriousness there isn't much to say about JX. JX was lurking hard and didn't contribute anything till some pressure was on him and even then he didn't produce much. I was having second thoughts about him per palmars post but no one wanted to lynch prplhz.

I dont care if i bring your comments on Oats back to the limelight. If I think something you did was questionable I will call it out. You stated something I didn't agree with so I said as much.

And are you fucking kidding me with this consolidation bit. Ofc we have to consolidate as town. If we don't it gives mafia more leeway to swing the vote. Also you your self were asking people to consolidate on JX so how is what you say even make sense.


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On February 08 2013 13:29 Mocsta wrote:
I have had a re-read of Vers guide, and starting to look for specific things in play.

Jay, you are pinging the shit out of my scum-dar.
In a nutshell your filter contains
- No useful contributions, other than you following a curiosity on RNG (which was never taking off)
- You were a proponent of bringing back into the limelight my comments to Oats, when i already gave my 2cents.
- You admit to having no contributions to add to town (as your explanation on the lack of posts)
- You was the first people to lead the JX lynch; before anything was concrete
And to top it off
- Your last post reads as if you dont give a shit a townie just flipped. You instantly move on, thinking about scum nominations already. Its like you fucked him in a one night stand and then kicked him out and didnt even call a taxi.

Even when prplhz is questioning you; you respond meekly, I believe with the intention to be ignored.
It worked.
Whilst this occured you were subtly asking everyone to consolidate on JX; but never contributed with serious thought on why he was the best candidate. This reeks to manipulation and scum play.
Scummy townies often say things that are so stupid/wrong its easy to think they are trying to mislead as town.
Your filter shows no signs of unintentional misleading, rather, when pressuring Jay you are EXTREMELY specific.

Thus, for me, I see intentional play to drive your agenda:
i.e.push JX as lynch candidate and remain low by making calculated decisions to show interest and responding methodically to blend in.

@all
Please share your thoughts on the above; do you see JayBrundage play as a bad townie?



Also why do you ask if im a bad townie. Why not just ask if people think I'm scum?


Notice how he doesn't really defend himself, he just shoots back a question.
On February 08 2013 14:35 jaybrundage wrote:
I fail to see anything in your response that indicates im scum.

The mislynch occurred cause JX was lurking hard till pressure was applied to him. And he didn't respond in a townie way. I once heard a good town player say. That for the day one lynch the only thing you need to do as town is to make sure you aren't the jackass that gets lynched. You usually have to play badly for it to happen.

Also yes I prefered JX to die over Palmar wasn't that clear. Your issue with consolidation isn't a real issue. It was the end of the day and I asked people to consolidate.


Again, he doesn't excuse his play he re-iterates his reasoning.

On February 08 2013 23:46 jaybrundage wrote:
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On February 08 2013 23:43 Mocsta wrote:
hmm. to be frank
i havent made up my mind with you, im trying to read your town games to see why you said your a scummy-town.

I just wanted feedback on my points.

To give you some quick context. I am the best mislynch na. I used to get lynched about 90 percent of my games, though I have improved a bit cause people were getting used to my meta aka being scummy as fuck as town.

I usually lurk hard as scum and get spammy as town. But this game I don't wanna get overly spammy as it makes me look scummy lol.

Questions?

He is best mislynch NA. But it's not in the joking manner as before. His tone is more serious.

Town in Normal Mini Mafia IV
On January 30 2013 09:16 jaybrundage wrote:
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On January 30 2013 09:08 EmileZola wrote:
actually yeah why am I still talking about this shit

##vote jaybrundage

This is your pressure vote are you fucking srs? Or do you actually think im scum


Questions when he's pressure voted rather than defensive or instant counter attack.
On January 30 2013 10:24 jaybrundage wrote:
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On January 30 2013 09:53 EmileZola wrote:
which is why I accused jay of not reading the thread.

In fact, I consider him scum for the manner in which he switched away from Sharrant. He seemed to switch away from Sharrant when it was apparent Sharrant would gain traction.

Distancing is a scum tactic. He prefers JX over Sharrant and never qualifies the preference any more than "JX has done worse". Not good enough. Either qualify it with tangible evidence, or die.

What the hell are you talking about. God forbid I have more then one scum read. Sharrant and JX are both scummy. Yes JX voted thrawn early but it doesn't make all his scummy actions irrelevant. Also Iamp also had JX as a scummy read. I have Lamp as a town read and i give his opinion some weight in my decisions. That is primarily why I started rereading filters and such to see if i could see what he said about Sharrant and JX.


Note the confident attitude.

Town (Fake doctor? XD) in our previous Shadowed Mini Mafia
On February 04 2014 12:24 jaybrundage wrote:
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On February 04 2014 12:10 suki wrote:
I think you don't really care about the answers, you just want to look like you're contributing.

How about you answer a few of the questions you posed yourself?

Oh I answered all those questions in my Google spreadsheet already. I ll post what I got on you guys so far. Its not all up to date on the recent things that happened.


1. Balla24 Town I like him so far very aggressive and making discussion and seems like a real player in this game
2. Sidesprang Bleh One post so far I knew he would be a candidate for a policy lynch and hes confirming that.

3. Alakaslam Posted 2 things with no content so far

4. cakemanofdoom no content There is quite a bit of things in the game atm and he chooses to comment on suki saying thats nice. Pretty lackluster choice

5. LoneMeow slightly scummy His first post sucked I don't like it at all and might be down to vote him just based on that. He followed up with basic policy stuff. I dont like him so far

6. Jaybrundage The towniest town that ever towned

7. Hopeless1der Meh we argued a bit over nothing hasn't posted any content tho so much is going on in the thread where did he go?

8. Oatsmaster Hasn't posted yet. I think at the start of the game is pretty late for him tho

9. JonnyLaw Pretty waffly at the start. He is posting but he doesn't seem to have firm convictions. He didn't liike Balla early but he has played with baller 3-2 times with him being scum so his suspicion is warrented. He hasn't produced much content tho he just seems like going with the flow

10. Suki scummy I don't like suki so far she just seems like she has no real motivation behind her posting. Her poke at jonnys waffleing was ok but then when balla inquired about it she said she never said she implied hes scum or anything LIke wtf? Why poke at someone but have no real reason behind it. It would seem that she didn't understand him but then she didn't say that she got very defensive. Said she didn't see anything with LM posting slight defending I dont like her atm

11. Koshi Posted some generic lets post alot then disappeared


No waffling here, no excuses on 'I can't get reads easy in D1'
On February 05 2014 02:15 jaybrundage wrote:
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On February 05 2014 02:10 Alakaslam wrote:
On February 04 2014 15:28 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 04 2014 15:20 Alakaslam wrote:
Last post by Jay Brundage makes sense I'm done fighting this thing, i'll be back when I can charge it or have a PC

Please don't post on your phone again if its gonna be this nonsensical. Take the time to correct it on your phone and reread what your typing or just go to a computer


I understand this sentiment but I think you actually did understand my posts in a sense.

I was UNABLE to edit them. That is what was so bad, I could barely get it to register a tap in the words and had to use talk text. That is why I stopped.

Anything that didn't make sense I will try to clarify after I catch up and probably after work. it is still morning.

jaybrundage you are rapidly convincing me you are scum.


I understood them in the sense that you think im scummy and don't like some of my posts. However why you thought they were scummy is a mystery to me. I would love to hear your thinking.

I still adhere to the fact that if you can't see someone's username and see who is posting what. That your reads are going to be terrible. I hope you can read the game knowing who is posting what.


Confidence. No heavy defense, no excuses.

On February 05 2014 12:13 jaybrundage wrote:
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On February 05 2014 12:03 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 05 2014 11:49 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 05 2014 11:23 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 05 2014 11:17 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 05 2014 11:10 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 05 2014 11:05 Balla24 wrote:
I'd lynch LoneMeow.



That's fine.

I want to talk about Jay. He's actually here. Both times I question him about something he comes in with a town-like response to the questions. Jay refuses to do that until there's pressure on him though. How is this town behavior?

I find this funny. Should I come up with a scum like response? Also you do realize that I was making that case before you posted your "pressure" on me.


I'm trying to talk to you Jay. You called Suki scum twice then change your mind once she posts a case on Oats.

What do you think about Oats? You claim to like the case but don't say anything else. I want to know why. You've played with Oats before this game.

We can chat about Lonemeow after this if you'd like. For now, I'm curious about some of your opinions.


Yes I thought suki was scummy before. Her thing about not calling Jonny scum but interesting or what ever word she used did bother me. She just seemed to have no point to your posts. However with her case on Oats it showed that she wasn't just trying to appear to be posting. She actually was analyzing the game and looking for scum. So my read turned on her. Is it possible she's scum that noticed she was getting heat and decided to post a case? Sure possible. But I think the most likely possibility at this point is town.

I don't remember Oats too well in my previous games. He was never someone I really suspected. He can be hard to draw a bead on sometimes. Not a huge poster mostly short clip comments. I even had to go back and look briefly at the LoL PYP game. I think the case made good points I hadn't noticed before. Oats was not on my lynch list before Suki posted her case. And she made a good enough case for me to consider lynching him.

Also I felt the reason to make my own case because I want to contribute to the town. I didn't plan to just sheep Suki's read and just say yea I like all this Ill join. Because I wanted to post my own analysis I got's me an ego you know. Also by posting other scummy people we can choose as a town who we want to go for based on the information we have.



You don't need to sheep Suki. Post your opinion. "I like this part and I don't like this part." You're trying to tell people how to play and what to look for and then you have that post. You flip on Suki and at the same time aren't trying to convince people how to play the game anymore.


##vote Jaybrundage

I have no need to defend oats. Oats can do that himself. I liked the case in general. Why should I nitpick when I have no need too. Can I not agree with a case? I liked the case. Its that simple. I agree with the case. I dont see how you don't get it. Yes I changed my read on suki. I'm trying to figure out the game. She made a good case so more likely to be town.


More confidence.



Jay's play this game:

+ Show Spoiler +

On February 07 2014 07:36 jaybrundage wrote:
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On February 07 2014 07:28 suki wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?


Legitimate question.

Jay, since you're 0.29% more likely to be scum than me, and since you were the top 2 Day 1 lynch in the previous game, how do you plan to play differently in order to avoid being targeted for lynch this game?

It might be a rough game. I tryharded the shit out of last game. And jonny wanted to lynch me cause I was "acting" like town.
I guess the first thing would be too not give as much advice this game.

1. Because I said it last game.

2. Because now I can just policy lynch lurkers cause they have been warned :D

I want to just say scum hunt more. But its not easy too early day 1. Maybe more pressure less advice for the early day.


excuses.

On February 07 2014 07:51 jaybrundage wrote:
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On February 07 2014 07:47 Koshi wrote:
Mine is very real. Super real.

you feel off.

I feel off. What a non committal post. After you say your vote is real. You make a terrible comment like that.

I think what you mean to say. Is that you think I'm scum. BUT your scum so you know that not to be true and your waffling like crazy. Because even when you say the vote is real. Your very next line shows you have no conviction about it.

Koshi is scum. I caught one :D


Immediate counter attack. Something tells me town Jay would be more likely to say "Can you explain why I feel off?" and prod with questions. In other words, his townie confidence is missing.

On February 07 2014 08:55 jaybrundage wrote:
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On February 07 2014 08:49 suki wrote:
##unvote King Balla
##vote Jaybrundage


What the hell are you seriously posting a super-serious-scum-hunt long ass post with quotes and reasoning two hours into the game? Take a CHILL PILL man.

Holy shit. Why the hell are you in such a rush to find scum out of the first four people who have entered the thread. This attitude is completely different from last game and I don't mean that in a good way.

Suki. Being aggressive does not =! equal scum. I am scum hunting. Why are you voting me. Instead of reading up on my case and seeing if it has merit. You asked me how I was going to change my approach this game. I said it was going to try to do more pressuring and scum hunting. I am doing that.

Should I not want to lynch scum this game. Your question doesn't make sense. It is not that they are in the first four people in the game that I have targeted them. I have targeted balla and Koshi because I find them the most likely to be scum. I think Jonny on the other hand is hella townie atm.


Self consciousness. Defensive, trying to provide reasons for the way he is playing.

On February 07 2014 11:44 jaybrundage wrote:
I can't win with this town. If I give advice and try to make well thought out posts. Then I'm giving advice and I'm not scum hunting enough.

If I actively try to scum hunt and push things I think are scummy. Then I'm scummy for unknown reasons.

Pretty frustrating.


This is new. I don't think I've seen frustration in his previous games so I don't have a meta read on what this means. The thing that comes to mind is if he was confident townie he probably wouldn't care that people are calling him scummy and would question them right back in their faces.

On February 07 2014 11:52 jaybrundage wrote:
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On February 07 2014 11:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
n1 mislynch NA jay?

Numba 1 Mislynch NA xD


Joking tone that's present in his scum games when he mentions he's #1 mislynch.

On February 07 2014 11:54 jaybrundage wrote:
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On February 07 2014 11:51 Balla24 wrote:
Are you guys seriously pushing jay right now?

There's really nothing new. Everybody knows he's made some scummy decisions. He's been pressured to no end, no reason to keep pushing him now because we know almost everything about him. Let him play the game, watch him to see if he redeems himself, but there's no reason to keep pushing him unless there is NEW information.

Let him play unpressed, see what happens.

Balla talk to me why do you think my push on Koshi is scummy. I think while it isn't the most amazing case. It is after all an early day 1 case. And I think alot of things I said are completely true.


Self-conscious. This sort of thing doesn't show up in his town games.

+ Show Spoiler +

just look at this quote from the previous game:
On February 05 2014 11:49 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 11:23 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 05 2014 11:17 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 05 2014 11:10 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 05 2014 11:05 Balla24 wrote:
I'd lynch LoneMeow.



That's fine.

I want to talk about Jay. He's actually here. Both times I question him about something he comes in with a town-like response to the questions. Jay refuses to do that until there's pressure on him though. How is this town behavior?

I find this funny. Should I come up with a scum like response? Also you do realize that I was making that case before you posted your "pressure" on me.


I'm trying to talk to you Jay. You called Suki scum twice then change your mind once she posts a case on Oats.

What do you think about Oats? You claim to like the case but don't say anything else. I want to know why. You've played with Oats before this game.

We can chat about Lonemeow after this if you'd like. For now, I'm curious about some of your opinions.


Yes I thought suki was scummy before. Her thing about not calling Jonny scum but interesting or what ever word she used did bother me. She just seemed to have no point to your posts. However with her case on Oats it showed that she wasn't just trying to appear to be posting. She actually was analyzing the game and looking for scum. So my read turned on her. Is it possible she's scum that noticed she was getting heat and decided to post a case? Sure possible. But I think the most likely possibility at this point is town.

I don't remember Oats too well in my previous games. He was never someone I really suspected. He can be hard to draw a bead on sometimes. Not a huge poster mostly short clip comments. I even had to go back and look briefly at the LoL PYP game. I think the case made good points I hadn't noticed before. Oats was not on my lynch list before Suki posted her case. And she made a good enough case for me to consider lynching him.

Also I felt the reason to make my own case because I want to contribute to the town. I didn't plan to just sheep Suki's read and just say yea I like all this Ill join. Because I wanted to post my own analysis I got's me an ego you know. Also by posting other scummy people we can choose as a town who we want to go for based on the information we have.


Notice how his reasons for finding me scummy were weak, however he doesn't say 'Oh yeah my reasons for thinking suki was scummy weren't that great.' he simply states what he thought. Ie. Confidence.



On February 07 2014 13:50 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 13:13 Balla24 wrote:
Ah yes! Finally.

Does what I said make sense to you from a town perspective now?


Why does he care that other people think he's town? Again, self-conscious, lack of confidence.
On February 08 2014 02:24 jaybrundage wrote:
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On February 08 2014 02:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
okay jay, so most of yesterday was 'heat of the moment'. have you re-read or reconsidered your scumreads?

Yea Balla is leaning town for me atm. I still think Koshi could be scum but everyone shitting on my push on him, means that the push wasn't not as good as I thought it was. So I won't be pushing him now and will try to get reads on other people.

excuses.



Huh. I think I've just convinced myself Jay is pretty damn scummy.

Also I noticed how in the town examples above, Jay has no problem asking people why they think he's scum, or confirming that they their read on him is that he's scum. In this game he'd rather defend himself than confirm someone's scum read or call them out on it.

suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 18:37 GMT
#507
That was a lot of work and I want to take a break. I'll post some meta quotes on sidesprang later.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 18:39 GMT
#509
I live to serve you, My King.
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