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suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 06 2014 23:54 GMT
#221
King Balla is my King, chosen by the almighty God of Mafia Artanis[Xp] himself.

His Name shall not by tainted by scummy accusations.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 06 2014 23:55 GMT
#222
On February 07 2014 08:49 suki wrote:
##unvote King Balla
##vote Jaybrundage


What the hell are you seriously posting a super-serious-scum-hunt long ass post with quotes and reasoning two hours into the game? Take a CHILL PILL man.

Holy shit. Why the hell are you in such a rush to find scum out of the first four people who have entered the thread. This attitude is completely different from last game and I don't mean that in a good way.

Suki. Being aggressive does not =! equal scum. I am scum hunting. Why are you voting me. Instead of reading up on my case and seeing if it has merit. You asked me how I was going to change my approach this game. I said it was going to try to do more pressuring and scum hunting. I am doing that.

Should I not want to lynch scum this game. Your question doesn't make sense. It is not that they are in the first four people in the game that I have targeted them. I have targeted balla and Koshi because I find them the most likely to be scum. I think Jonny on the other hand is hella townie atm.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 06 2014 23:55 GMT
#223
Just for accuracy's sake Toad, I did not self-vote myself. That crossed out vote should be on JonnyLaw
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 06 2014 23:56 GMT
#224
hihi

@jaybrundage: You've made a big long case about how Koshi would be excited to roll town and not happy if he rolled scum again, which I agree with as far as it goes.

However, I'm unconvinced by your evidence that Koshi is in fact unexcited by this game. Not posting with capslock enabled doesn't prove much about his enthusiasm.

Is there anything else about Koshi's filter and play which makes you think he's not excited to be in this game?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 06 2014 23:57 GMT
#225
On February 07 2014 08:48 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 08:41 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 08:33 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:58 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:36 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:28 suki wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?


Legitimate question.

Jay, since you're 0.29% more likely to be scum than me, and since you were the top 2 Day 1 lynch in the previous game, how do you plan to play differently in order to avoid being targeted for lynch this game?

It might be a rough game. I tryharded the shit out of last game. And jonny wanted to lynch me cause I was "acting" like town.
I guess the first thing would be too not give as much advice this game.

1. Because I said it last game.

2. Because now I can just policy lynch lurkers cause they have been warned :D

I want to just say scum hunt more. But its not easy too early day 1. Maybe more pressure less advice for the early day.


You're making so many excuses for no reason. Why would you tryharding last game have anything to do with this game or how tough it's going to be? In fact, what are you trying to say when you say you "tryharded the shit out of last game"? What, are you implying you're not going to tryhard the shit out of this game, why not?

Scumhunting is scumhunting. Sure there's not much to talk about on day1 but that's where you make stuff to talk about and then scumhunt from there. There has been no effort to do that. Instead, all you have done is called my first post "icky", which was 100% totally intended to do just that, get people to start talking and scumhunting from the get go which should be pretty obvious to everybody, but for some reason you decided it was icky and then make excuses for what I can only assume is going to be bad scumhunting on day 1.

On February 07 2014 07:32 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?

@suki, that implies that you think jaybrundage is town, even though I am clearly 2.5% less likely to be scum than he is.

That first post. Ugh I'm still feeling icky from it.




Your first post was obviously pre-written. It's not "icky" but it's not alignment indicative. You'd post the same thing as scum or town.

The sections you highlighted in his posts make me feel wary. They're scummy sure. Does that make him scum?

On February 07 2014 08:01 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:51 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:47 Koshi wrote:
Mine is very real. Super real.

you feel off.

I feel off. What a non committal post. After you say your vote is real. You make a terrible comment like that.

I think what you mean to say. Is that you think I'm scum. BUT your scum so you know that not to be true and your waffling like crazy. Because even when you say the vote is real. Your very next line shows you have no conviction about it.

Koshi is scum. I caught one :D


In fact, this post is so very scummy. If you are town, your reaction to these "fake votes" would be completely different. You would be confused and curious as to what they find scummy about what you said, or you would just think that it's totally trolly and ignore it.

Here you find it is scummy? What cause he thinks you feel off? Your response should have been "what feels off about me then oh wise one koshi" and not "you're scum".


I actually agree with Jay here. I don't give a shit about votes an hour into the game.


1. That's interesting to me because that's literally what you always jump on as town is people making excuses for their play. But at least you are wary.
2. That's not the point. Think about your reaction if someone just random votes you without explaining anything.

You either think it's trolly or you think "wtf". If it's trolly you basically ignore it, which jb started to do. If you think wtf, you become curious and try to understand wtf they are thinking, and SPECIFICALLY if they have actually think they see something or not.

After he thinks their real, he basically goes "WTF" and goes HAM on koshi for being non-commital. NOWHERE does he show a curious, townie, scum-hunting mindset but instead just straight up attacks him. He doesn't ask what is that "feels off", he just says that saying that is scummy.

I would seriously expect him to think harder about what Koshi is doing.


These are contradictions. I am not attacking him. I even called him my scum friend. I did ask what feels off. Your wrong here.

This last bit is a contradiction again. I am thinking real hard about what Koshi is doing. That's why I analyzed it and wrote a case up about it. My conclusion is that he is scum. Why are you chainsaw defending Koshi instead of reading up on my post and seeing if I have any valid thoughts in it.

What makes you so convinced that Koshi is town, that you are hard defending him so much?


You're not attacking him? Really? You did not ask what feels off, please quote. I'd be happy to be wrong about it, but I just skimmed that section.

I'm not talking about your case on Koshi, that's ok I guess, it's pretty silly to use pre-game stuff at all but that's fine since at least it's somewhat relevant. I don't like that the whole thing is built on the fact that he would be "happier" though.

I'm not defending koshi at all, where do you get that? I don't like your case on him, that doesn't mean i'm defending him. Chainsaw defense though? I'm the one who brought up real points about this whole situation in the first place. Just because you reacted to him instead of me doesn't make this a chainsaw defense.

I think Koshi is town atm though, yes. Same thing as last game, he's thinking like me just like you were thinking like me. He saw what I saw. We shall see if this continues.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 06 2014 23:57 GMT
#226
On February 07 2014 08:56 Aquanim wrote:
hihi

@jaybrundage: You've made a big long case about how Koshi would be excited to roll town and not happy if he rolled scum again, which I agree with as far as it goes.

However, I'm unconvinced by your evidence that Koshi is in fact unexcited by this game. Not posting with capslock enabled doesn't prove much about his enthusiasm.

Is there anything else about Koshi's filter and play which makes you think he's not excited to be in this game?

His post which I analyzed when he said that I feel "off" Is a very scummy post as well.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 06 2014 23:58 GMT
#227
It's not the action but the motives.

Posting a long ass scum case this early just screams try-hard scum look at me I'm hunting scum! Why do you have to prove yourself this early as town, forcing a pure meta "koshi should be happy but he's not" argument to say that Koshi is definitely scum?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 06 2014 23:59 GMT
#228
On February 07 2014 08:54 JonnyLaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 08:41 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 08:33 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:58 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:36 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:28 suki wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?


Legitimate question.

Jay, since you're 0.29% more likely to be scum than me, and since you were the top 2 Day 1 lynch in the previous game, how do you plan to play differently in order to avoid being targeted for lynch this game?

It might be a rough game. I tryharded the shit out of last game. And jonny wanted to lynch me cause I was "acting" like town.
I guess the first thing would be too not give as much advice this game.

1. Because I said it last game.

2. Because now I can just policy lynch lurkers cause they have been warned :D

I want to just say scum hunt more. But its not easy too early day 1. Maybe more pressure less advice for the early day.


You're making so many excuses for no reason. Why would you tryharding last game have anything to do with this game or how tough it's going to be? In fact, what are you trying to say when you say you "tryharded the shit out of last game"? What, are you implying you're not going to tryhard the shit out of this game, why not?

Scumhunting is scumhunting. Sure there's not much to talk about on day1 but that's where you make stuff to talk about and then scumhunt from there. There has been no effort to do that. Instead, all you have done is called my first post "icky", which was 100% totally intended to do just that, get people to start talking and scumhunting from the get go which should be pretty obvious to everybody, but for some reason you decided it was icky and then make excuses for what I can only assume is going to be bad scumhunting on day 1.

On February 07 2014 07:32 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?

@suki, that implies that you think jaybrundage is town, even though I am clearly 2.5% less likely to be scum than he is.

That first post. Ugh I'm still feeling icky from it.




Your first post was obviously pre-written. It's not "icky" but it's not alignment indicative. You'd post the same thing as scum or town.

The sections you highlighted in his posts make me feel wary. They're scummy sure. Does that make him scum?

On February 07 2014 08:01 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:51 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:47 Koshi wrote:
Mine is very real. Super real.

you feel off.

I feel off. What a non committal post. After you say your vote is real. You make a terrible comment like that.

I think what you mean to say. Is that you think I'm scum. BUT your scum so you know that not to be true and your waffling like crazy. Because even when you say the vote is real. Your very next line shows you have no conviction about it.

Koshi is scum. I caught one :D


In fact, this post is so very scummy. If you are town, your reaction to these "fake votes" would be completely different. You would be confused and curious as to what they find scummy about what you said, or you would just think that it's totally trolly and ignore it.

Here you find it is scummy? What cause he thinks you feel off? Your response should have been "what feels off about me then oh wise one koshi" and not "you're scum".


I actually agree with Jay here. I don't give a shit about votes an hour into the game.


1. That's interesting to me because that's literally what you always jump on as town is people making excuses for their play. But at least you are wary.
2. That's not the point. Think about your reaction if someone just random votes you without explaining anything.

You either think it's trolly or you think "wtf". If it's trolly you basically ignore it, which jb started to do. If you think wtf, you become curious and try to understand wtf they are thinking, and SPECIFICALLY if they have actually think they see something or not.

After he thinks their real, he basically goes "WTF" and goes HAM on koshi for being non-commital. NOWHERE does he show a curious, townie, scum-hunting mindset but instead just straight up attacks him. He doesn't ask what is that "feels off", he just says that saying that is scummy.

I would seriously expect him to think harder about what Koshi is doing.



That's the most important part of your post. Anyone who calls jay scum must be scum. Easy defense. Jay looks scummy. So does Koshi.

Honestly you've done nothing to show otherwise either.


I don't understand what you're saying, sorry. The bold says "anyone who calls jay scum must be scum?". I'm not seeing the flow here, could you re-state or something?
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 06 2014 23:59 GMT
#229
On February 07 2014 08:19 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 08:14 Koshi wrote:
Are you shaking or something jayB? Or did you steal Alakaslam his phone?

My hands are cold.

Thank you for your concern my scum friend. Anyway you said I feel off do you want to expand on that?

I'm still working on your case so don't worry about that.

You claim I'm scummy but your not even reading my posts
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 06 2014 23:59 GMT
#230
On February 07 2014 08:55 suki wrote:
Just for accuracy's sake Toad, I did not self-vote myself. That crossed out vote should be on JonnyLaw

already a failure Have to figure out how I screwed up because I can't find it
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 07 2014 00:00 GMT
#231
On February 07 2014 08:59 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 08:19 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 08:14 Koshi wrote:
Are you shaking or something jayB? Or did you steal Alakaslam his phone?

My hands are cold.

Thank you for your concern my scum friend. Anyway you said I feel off do you want to expand on that?

I'm still working on your case so don't worry about that.

You claim I'm scummy but your not even reading my posts


That's because this isn't at all what I was speaking about, and it happens AFTER the fact.

This is the post i'm talking about:

On February 07 2014 07:51 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 07:47 Koshi wrote:
Mine is very real. Super real.

you feel off.

I feel off. What a non committal post. After you say your vote is real. You make a terrible comment like that.

I think what you mean to say. Is that you think I'm scum. BUT your scum so you know that not to be true and your waffling like crazy. Because even when you say the vote is real. Your very next line shows you have no conviction about it.

Koshi is scum. I caught one :D

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 07 2014 00:00 GMT
#232
On February 07 2014 08:59 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 08:54 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 07 2014 08:41 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 08:33 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:58 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:36 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:28 suki wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?


Legitimate question.

Jay, since you're 0.29% more likely to be scum than me, and since you were the top 2 Day 1 lynch in the previous game, how do you plan to play differently in order to avoid being targeted for lynch this game?

It might be a rough game. I tryharded the shit out of last game. And jonny wanted to lynch me cause I was "acting" like town.
I guess the first thing would be too not give as much advice this game.

1. Because I said it last game.

2. Because now I can just policy lynch lurkers cause they have been warned :D

I want to just say scum hunt more. But its not easy too early day 1. Maybe more pressure less advice for the early day.


You're making so many excuses for no reason. Why would you tryharding last game have anything to do with this game or how tough it's going to be? In fact, what are you trying to say when you say you "tryharded the shit out of last game"? What, are you implying you're not going to tryhard the shit out of this game, why not?

Scumhunting is scumhunting. Sure there's not much to talk about on day1 but that's where you make stuff to talk about and then scumhunt from there. There has been no effort to do that. Instead, all you have done is called my first post "icky", which was 100% totally intended to do just that, get people to start talking and scumhunting from the get go which should be pretty obvious to everybody, but for some reason you decided it was icky and then make excuses for what I can only assume is going to be bad scumhunting on day 1.

On February 07 2014 07:32 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?

@suki, that implies that you think jaybrundage is town, even though I am clearly 2.5% less likely to be scum than he is.

That first post. Ugh I'm still feeling icky from it.




Your first post was obviously pre-written. It's not "icky" but it's not alignment indicative. You'd post the same thing as scum or town.

The sections you highlighted in his posts make me feel wary. They're scummy sure. Does that make him scum?

On February 07 2014 08:01 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:51 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:47 Koshi wrote:
Mine is very real. Super real.

you feel off.

I feel off. What a non committal post. After you say your vote is real. You make a terrible comment like that.

I think what you mean to say. Is that you think I'm scum. BUT your scum so you know that not to be true and your waffling like crazy. Because even when you say the vote is real. Your very next line shows you have no conviction about it.

Koshi is scum. I caught one :D


In fact, this post is so very scummy. If you are town, your reaction to these "fake votes" would be completely different. You would be confused and curious as to what they find scummy about what you said, or you would just think that it's totally trolly and ignore it.

Here you find it is scummy? What cause he thinks you feel off? Your response should have been "what feels off about me then oh wise one koshi" and not "you're scum".


I actually agree with Jay here. I don't give a shit about votes an hour into the game.


1. That's interesting to me because that's literally what you always jump on as town is people making excuses for their play. But at least you are wary.
2. That's not the point. Think about your reaction if someone just random votes you without explaining anything.

You either think it's trolly or you think "wtf". If it's trolly you basically ignore it, which jb started to do. If you think wtf, you become curious and try to understand wtf they are thinking, and SPECIFICALLY if they have actually think they see something or not.

After he thinks their real, he basically goes "WTF" and goes HAM on koshi for being non-commital. NOWHERE does he show a curious, townie, scum-hunting mindset but instead just straight up attacks him. He doesn't ask what is that "feels off", he just says that saying that is scummy.

I would seriously expect him to think harder about what Koshi is doing.



That's the most important part of your post. Anyone who calls jay scum must be scum. Easy defense. Jay looks scummy. So does Koshi.

Honestly you've done nothing to show otherwise either.


I don't understand what you're saying, sorry. The bold says "anyone who calls jay scum must be scum?". I'm not seeing the flow here, could you re-state or something?


Jay instantly attacks his attacker.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 00:01 GMT
#233
On February 07 2014 08:57 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 08:56 Aquanim wrote:
hihi

@jaybrundage: You've made a big long case about how Koshi would be excited to roll town and not happy if he rolled scum again, which I agree with as far as it goes.

However, I'm unconvinced by your evidence that Koshi is in fact unexcited by this game. Not posting with capslock enabled doesn't prove much about his enthusiasm.

Is there anything else about Koshi's filter and play which makes you think he's not excited to be in this game?

His post which I analyzed when he said that I feel "off" Is a very scummy post as well.


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suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 07 2014 00:02 GMT
#234
@Toad:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 07 2014 08:59 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 08:55 suki wrote:
Just for accuracy's sake Toad, I did not self-vote myself. That crossed out vote should be on JonnyLaw

already a failure Have to figure out how I screwed up because I can't find it

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=20742596

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
February 07 2014 00:02 GMT
#235
I'm going out to dinner with my gf.

Any questions before I leave?
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 07 2014 00:03 GMT
#236
On February 07 2014 08:57 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 08:48 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 08:41 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 08:33 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:58 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:36 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:28 suki wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?


Legitimate question.

Jay, since you're 0.29% more likely to be scum than me, and since you were the top 2 Day 1 lynch in the previous game, how do you plan to play differently in order to avoid being targeted for lynch this game?

It might be a rough game. I tryharded the shit out of last game. And jonny wanted to lynch me cause I was "acting" like town.
I guess the first thing would be too not give as much advice this game.

1. Because I said it last game.

2. Because now I can just policy lynch lurkers cause they have been warned :D

I want to just say scum hunt more. But its not easy too early day 1. Maybe more pressure less advice for the early day.


You're making so many excuses for no reason. Why would you tryharding last game have anything to do with this game or how tough it's going to be? In fact, what are you trying to say when you say you "tryharded the shit out of last game"? What, are you implying you're not going to tryhard the shit out of this game, why not?

Scumhunting is scumhunting. Sure there's not much to talk about on day1 but that's where you make stuff to talk about and then scumhunt from there. There has been no effort to do that. Instead, all you have done is called my first post "icky", which was 100% totally intended to do just that, get people to start talking and scumhunting from the get go which should be pretty obvious to everybody, but for some reason you decided it was icky and then make excuses for what I can only assume is going to be bad scumhunting on day 1.

On February 07 2014 07:32 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?

@suki, that implies that you think jaybrundage is town, even though I am clearly 2.5% less likely to be scum than he is.

That first post. Ugh I'm still feeling icky from it.




Your first post was obviously pre-written. It's not "icky" but it's not alignment indicative. You'd post the same thing as scum or town.

The sections you highlighted in his posts make me feel wary. They're scummy sure. Does that make him scum?

On February 07 2014 08:01 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:51 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:47 Koshi wrote:
Mine is very real. Super real.

you feel off.

I feel off. What a non committal post. After you say your vote is real. You make a terrible comment like that.

I think what you mean to say. Is that you think I'm scum. BUT your scum so you know that not to be true and your waffling like crazy. Because even when you say the vote is real. Your very next line shows you have no conviction about it.

Koshi is scum. I caught one :D


In fact, this post is so very scummy. If you are town, your reaction to these "fake votes" would be completely different. You would be confused and curious as to what they find scummy about what you said, or you would just think that it's totally trolly and ignore it.

Here you find it is scummy? What cause he thinks you feel off? Your response should have been "what feels off about me then oh wise one koshi" and not "you're scum".


I actually agree with Jay here. I don't give a shit about votes an hour into the game.


1. That's interesting to me because that's literally what you always jump on as town is people making excuses for their play. But at least you are wary.
2. That's not the point. Think about your reaction if someone just random votes you without explaining anything.

You either think it's trolly or you think "wtf". If it's trolly you basically ignore it, which jb started to do. If you think wtf, you become curious and try to understand wtf they are thinking, and SPECIFICALLY if they have actually think they see something or not.

After he thinks their real, he basically goes "WTF" and goes HAM on koshi for being non-commital. NOWHERE does he show a curious, townie, scum-hunting mindset but instead just straight up attacks him. He doesn't ask what is that "feels off", he just says that saying that is scummy.

I would seriously expect him to think harder about what Koshi is doing.


These are contradictions. I am not attacking him. I even called him my scum friend. I did ask what feels off. Your wrong here.

This last bit is a contradiction again. I am thinking real hard about what Koshi is doing. That's why I analyzed it and wrote a case up about it. My conclusion is that he is scum. Why are you chainsaw defending Koshi instead of reading up on my post and seeing if I have any valid thoughts in it.

What makes you so convinced that Koshi is town, that you are hard defending him so much?


You're not attacking him? Really? You did not ask what feels off, please quote. I'd be happy to be wrong about it, but I just skimmed that section.

I'm not talking about your case on Koshi, that's ok I guess, it's pretty silly to use pre-game stuff at all but that's fine since at least it's somewhat relevant. I don't like that the whole thing is built on the fact that he would be "happier" though.

I'm not defending koshi at all, where do you get that? I don't like your case on him, that doesn't mean i'm defending him. Chainsaw defense though? I'm the one who brought up real points about this whole situation in the first place. Just because you reacted to him instead of me doesn't make this a chainsaw defense.

I think Koshi is town atm though, yes. Same thing as last game, he's thinking like me just like you were thinking like me. He saw what I saw. We shall see if this continues.

Please can you give me a case on why you have a town read on Koshi. Explain it. If you can explain your thinking then maybe I can see it from your perspective and my read on Koshi can change. I do think both of you are scum. However I do not plan on becoming tunneled on it and exclude all other reasonings (cough cough jonny last game )

Also you are defending Koshi... Hard. I can go back and point it out. However I am not going to waste my time go read your own filter and look at it and see if you can find any posts that can be construed as you defending Koshi.
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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 07 2014 00:03 GMT
#237
On February 07 2014 09:00 JonnyLaw wrote:
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On February 07 2014 08:59 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 08:54 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 07 2014 08:41 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 08:33 JonnyLaw wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:58 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:36 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:28 suki wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?


Legitimate question.

Jay, since you're 0.29% more likely to be scum than me, and since you were the top 2 Day 1 lynch in the previous game, how do you plan to play differently in order to avoid being targeted for lynch this game?

It might be a rough game. I tryharded the shit out of last game. And jonny wanted to lynch me cause I was "acting" like town.
I guess the first thing would be too not give as much advice this game.

1. Because I said it last game.

2. Because now I can just policy lynch lurkers cause they have been warned :D

I want to just say scum hunt more. But its not easy too early day 1. Maybe more pressure less advice for the early day.


You're making so many excuses for no reason. Why would you tryharding last game have anything to do with this game or how tough it's going to be? In fact, what are you trying to say when you say you "tryharded the shit out of last game"? What, are you implying you're not going to tryhard the shit out of this game, why not?

Scumhunting is scumhunting. Sure there's not much to talk about on day1 but that's where you make stuff to talk about and then scumhunt from there. There has been no effort to do that. Instead, all you have done is called my first post "icky", which was 100% totally intended to do just that, get people to start talking and scumhunting from the get go which should be pretty obvious to everybody, but for some reason you decided it was icky and then make excuses for what I can only assume is going to be bad scumhunting on day 1.

On February 07 2014 07:32 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?

@suki, that implies that you think jaybrundage is town, even though I am clearly 2.5% less likely to be scum than he is.

That first post. Ugh I'm still feeling icky from it.




Your first post was obviously pre-written. It's not "icky" but it's not alignment indicative. You'd post the same thing as scum or town.

The sections you highlighted in his posts make me feel wary. They're scummy sure. Does that make him scum?

On February 07 2014 08:01 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:51 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:47 Koshi wrote:
Mine is very real. Super real.

you feel off.

I feel off. What a non committal post. After you say your vote is real. You make a terrible comment like that.

I think what you mean to say. Is that you think I'm scum. BUT your scum so you know that not to be true and your waffling like crazy. Because even when you say the vote is real. Your very next line shows you have no conviction about it.

Koshi is scum. I caught one :D


In fact, this post is so very scummy. If you are town, your reaction to these "fake votes" would be completely different. You would be confused and curious as to what they find scummy about what you said, or you would just think that it's totally trolly and ignore it.

Here you find it is scummy? What cause he thinks you feel off? Your response should have been "what feels off about me then oh wise one koshi" and not "you're scum".


I actually agree with Jay here. I don't give a shit about votes an hour into the game.


1. That's interesting to me because that's literally what you always jump on as town is people making excuses for their play. But at least you are wary.
2. That's not the point. Think about your reaction if someone just random votes you without explaining anything.

You either think it's trolly or you think "wtf". If it's trolly you basically ignore it, which jb started to do. If you think wtf, you become curious and try to understand wtf they are thinking, and SPECIFICALLY if they have actually think they see something or not.

After he thinks their real, he basically goes "WTF" and goes HAM on koshi for being non-commital. NOWHERE does he show a curious, townie, scum-hunting mindset but instead just straight up attacks him. He doesn't ask what is that "feels off", he just says that saying that is scummy.

I would seriously expect him to think harder about what Koshi is doing.



That's the most important part of your post. Anyone who calls jay scum must be scum. Easy defense. Jay looks scummy. So does Koshi.

Honestly you've done nothing to show otherwise either.


I don't understand what you're saying, sorry. The bold says "anyone who calls jay scum must be scum?". I'm not seeing the flow here, could you re-state or something?


Jay instantly attacks his attacker.


Got it, so you changed your mind and agree with me? ^_^

Also, jay, I don't want to tunnel you any longer but please, if you are going to accuse me of not reading your posts then at least read mine fully. I get the impression that you didn't even read what I wrote about you at the start of this whole mess.

On February 07 2014 07:59 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 07:58 Balla24 wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:36 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:28 suki wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?


Legitimate question.

Jay, since you're 0.29% more likely to be scum than me, and since you were the top 2 Day 1 lynch in the previous game, how do you plan to play differently in order to avoid being targeted for lynch this game?

It might be a rough game. I tryharded the shit out of last game. And jonny wanted to lynch me cause I was "acting" like town.
I guess the first thing would be too not give as much advice this game.

1. Because I said it last game.

2. Because now I can just policy lynch lurkers cause they have been warned :D

I want to just say scum hunt more. But its not easy too early day 1. Maybe more pressure less advice for the early day.


You're making so many excuses for no reason. Why would you tryharding last game have anything to do with this game or how tough it's going to be? In fact, what are you trying to say when you say you "tryharded the shit out of last game"? What, are you implying you're not going to tryhard the shit out of this game, why not?

Scumhunting is scumhunting. Sure there's not much to talk about on day1 but that's where you make stuff to talk about and then scumhunt from there. There has been no effort to do that. Instead, all you have done is called my first post "icky", which was 100% totally intended to do just that, get people to start talking and scumhunting from the get go which should be pretty obvious to everybody, but for some reason you decided it was icky and then make excuses for what I can only assume is going to be bad scumhunting on day 1.

On February 07 2014 07:32 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 07:23 Balla24 wrote:
@jaybrundage, that implies that you were thinking something, so what was it that you were thinking before you came to that conclusion?

@suki, that implies that you think jaybrundage is town, even though I am clearly 2.5% less likely to be scum than he is.

That first post. Ugh I'm still feeling icky from it.


You should catch up on the thread. This post is already outdated.

Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 07 2014 00:04 GMT
#238
On February 07 2014 08:57 jaybrundage wrote:
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On February 07 2014 08:56 Aquanim wrote:
hihi

@jaybrundage: You've made a big long case about how Koshi would be excited to roll town and not happy if he rolled scum again, which I agree with as far as it goes.

However, I'm unconvinced by your evidence that Koshi is in fact unexcited by this game. Not posting with capslock enabled doesn't prove much about his enthusiasm.

Is there anything else about Koshi's filter and play which makes you think he's not excited to be in this game?

His post which I analyzed when he said that I feel "off" Is a very scummy post as well.

That's not really what I asked.

I wanted to know whether there are any other posts, or patterns in posts, or anything about Koshi which makes you think that he's not excited to be playing this game - since your justification for that view seems a little shallow so far to me.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 07 2014 00:04 GMT
#239
On February 07 2014 09:01 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 08:57 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 08:56 Aquanim wrote:
hihi

@jaybrundage: You've made a big long case about how Koshi would be excited to roll town and not happy if he rolled scum again, which I agree with as far as it goes.

However, I'm unconvinced by your evidence that Koshi is in fact unexcited by this game. Not posting with capslock enabled doesn't prove much about his enthusiasm.

Is there anything else about Koshi's filter and play which makes you think he's not excited to be in this game?

His post which I analyzed when he said that I feel "off" Is a very scummy post as well.


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What is your purpose with this post. I don't understand your reason for posting it. Please enlighten me.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 07 2014 00:07 GMT
#240
On February 07 2014 09:04 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 08:57 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 07 2014 08:56 Aquanim wrote:
hihi

@jaybrundage: You've made a big long case about how Koshi would be excited to roll town and not happy if he rolled scum again, which I agree with as far as it goes.

However, I'm unconvinced by your evidence that Koshi is in fact unexcited by this game. Not posting with capslock enabled doesn't prove much about his enthusiasm.

Is there anything else about Koshi's filter and play which makes you think he's not excited to be in this game?

His post which I analyzed when he said that I feel "off" Is a very scummy post as well.

That's not really what I asked.

I wanted to know whether there are any other posts, or patterns in posts, or anything about Koshi which makes you think that he's not excited to be playing this game - since your justification for that view seems a little shallow so far to me.

What I posted in my big case. Is what I feel was relevant in the part of Koshi not being excited enough. So yes that's it.

That's not the only thing that makes him scummy though. Look at how he has no real read on me. Even tho he voted me and I'm pressuring the shit out of him. He never stated whether he thought i was scum or town. Similar to last game and how Oats was pressuring him early on. And he never really was concrete on any read on Oats.

What do you think of Ball and Koshi atm?
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