Yeah HF, that actually does look bad. Like, take his mention of Keir in "Why isn't Keir getting lynched again?" Think about it in the context of the question he asked. Why isn't Keir getting lynched? He's asking people to verbalize their reasoning for not lynching Keir. He's not trying to get people /to/ vote for Keir, in spite of saying that he thinks Keir is a good lynch. He's trying to get the opposite accomplished - he wants people to say why they think he's town or a bad lynch.

Okay so I'm about convinced Risen is mafia. The question becomes: who dies first? Yamato or Risen?

I'll look at both and decide who I think it should be later on.

yamato77

11589 Posts

February 16 2014 19:59 GMT

#2763

Before I look at Risen, I want to ask, why is their an "association" between Keir and I?

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

February 16 2014 20:00 GMT

#2764

Keir mentioned you as a scum suspect but never pushed it or discussed it at all. Just throws you in as a secondary candidate to me.

yamato77

11589 Posts

February 16 2014 20:15 GMT

#2765

On February 17 2014 05:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Keir mentioned you as a scum suspect but never pushed it or discussed it at all. Just throws you in as a secondary candidate to me.

He didn't push it because I called him out on it.

yamato77

11589 Posts

February 16 2014 20:18 GMT

#2766

On February 12 2014 17:46 Keirathi wrote:

Show nested quote +

"Keir put me in his scum list, so he must be scum!"

Aw, boo fucking hoo.

But fine, this argument is pointless because you're not my top read anyways. Go read what I wrote about VE and give me some opinions.

And while you're at it, read through VE's filter in NMME1 and tell me what you see.

Sleepsies for real now.

Case in point

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

February 16 2014 20:29 GMT

#2767

On February 17 2014 05:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Keir mentioned you as a scum suspect but never pushed it or discussed it at all. Just throws you in as a secondary candidate to me.

As I said earlier, I'm not going to consider any such associative evidence. Everyone has said everyone is scum.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

February 16 2014 20:31 GMT

#2768

On February 17 2014 02:50 Grackaroni wrote:
He only unvoted you because he couldn't be bothered to read you not because he thought you were town.

On February 17 2014 02:51 Grackaroni wrote:
You can't keep twisting things.

and here is grack doing his useless shit again, I never said he called me town, RISEN said marv called me scum and he should sheep him but I'm pointing out that is not true. What are you doing other than shitting on EVERYTHING I write every time?

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

February 16 2014 20:47 GMT

#2769

Kier is flipped mafia though Palmar, it's not just associative evidence.

Risen

United States7927 Posts

February 16 2014 21:15 GMT

#2770

So it looks like it's going to come down to VE, HF, X being the scum team. HF and VE lining up to vote me off in two days. Can't tell if yamato is joining that side of things but I really don't see yamato being bussed like this.

Other "faction" appears to be Grack and I, maybe Palmar going for HF. That will leave someone? Maybe wave? Is my math right? There's going to be 7 alive in two days right?

If I'm scum I'm putting up Palmar, Grack, Oats/Wave/Yamato. The third person gets lynched. Anyone disagree with where we stand right now?

Risen

United States7927 Posts

February 16 2014 21:15 GMT

#2771

EBWOP: I'm not saying out yourselves as scum. You clearly disagree with me on that front. I'm saying do you disagree with how the factions remaining in this game are lining up.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

February 16 2014 21:27 GMT

#2772

You mean we used reasoning to figure out why you're scum in thread and our conclusion thus means both me and VE are scum? lolololol

yamato77

11589 Posts

February 16 2014 21:34 GMT

#2773

On February 17 2014 05:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Kier is flipped mafia though Palmar, it's not just associative evidence.

It's not even good, because it's not even true.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

February 16 2014 22:25 GMT

#2774

I think I'm lynching Risen for effort alone tomorrow.

I don't care about winning or losing, it's about sending a message.

yamato77

11589 Posts

February 16 2014 22:44 GMT

#2775

On February 17 2014 07:25 Palmar wrote:
I think I'm lynching Risen for effort alone tomorrow.

I don't care about winning or losing, it's about sending a message.

Well, if you/grack/hf/ve are all town, he pretty much has to be mafia.

The problem is, I'm not sure how confident I am in that quartet.

I'm pretty sure oats/wave are mafia, but as I said before, I doubt my earlier read on VE for how he's played since lylo started.

Risen

United States7927 Posts

February 16 2014 22:58 GMT

#2776

On February 17 2014 07:25 Palmar wrote:
I think I'm lynching Risen for effort alone tomorrow.

I don't care about winning or losing, it's about sending a message.

It's a win/win! You get to send your message and my town meta stays intact.

iamperfection

United States9648 Posts

February 17 2014 00:30 GMT

#2777

nomination lynch 3

The following are nominated:

Palmar
Visceraeyes
Grackaroni

you have 24 hours you must vote

Grackaroni

United States9857 Posts

February 17 2014 00:30 GMT

#2778

shit I thought this was going to happen.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

February 17 2014 00:33 GMT

#2779

##vote ve

Risen

United States7927 Posts

February 17 2014 01:19 GMT

#2780

Hmm... VE is so obviously the lynch followed by the people he was lining up against (yamato/me). I think we're being set up. I know I am. I think we lynch palmar here on the off chance. Every one of those people is as conf town as it gets, though. Assuming ve is town I can't support his lynch because he's the driving force behind this game. Palmar hasn't used his conf town status like he should have this game so I think he's the lynch.

Wave, HF, yamato, oats.

I think hf and wave are the definite scum here. Then oats over yamato. That one's up in the air. I lean oats.

Today let's say we lynch town and they aren't being sneaky. That makes it 4 town 3 scum remaining. Still lylo because of nomination. So we lynch wave as he's the one I think we can all agree on. Hf if you're town you need to realize grack thinks you're scum (I think?) and won't support my lynch. Everyone can support a wave lynch. Assume we hit scum, 4-2. Nomination makes it 3-2. I was hoping we'd reach a point where we could leave lylo and lynch me but I don't think it's possible without scum getting greedy.

Assuming nominations are town, whichever one of you four is town is able to solve the game here if you come to the conclusion that I'm town. Seems like a stretch. I wish we hadn't lynched va :/

I don't know what to do. I wish those who were town would look back at the opinions of those who are dead. Lynch wave, lynch holy. Ve being town really wrecks what I thought was going on. (Omg he knows ve is town! No... I'm assuming)