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LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 05 2014 20:02 GMT
#648
On February 06 2014 04:59 Koshi wrote:
LoneMeow can you point me to a scumgame of yours?


NMM XLVII
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 05 2014 20:06 GMT
#650
Here's another since that was a bit on the short side:
NMM XLII
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 05 2014 20:16 GMT
#656
On February 06 2014 05:11 JonnyLaw wrote:
I'll still lynch jay btw.


Could you make an updated case on him? There's plenty of new material since the last one. I want to see how the new stuff fits with your thinking.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 05 2014 20:18 GMT
#657
On February 06 2014 05:11 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 04:48 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 06 2014 04:42 suki wrote:
I think slam and Balla are firmly town. I think Jonny is also town but that's more a meta read than any close analysis.


I'd agree with Balla24 and JonnyLaw being town, both are actively trying to find and lynch scum, but why Alakaslam?


Call it a gut read? He's been contributing his reads and pushing people when he's here.


That's actually what worries me most about him, since the town-Alakaslam I know plays far more scummy than this one :D

On February 06 2014 05:11 suki wrote:
That episode where he was typing on his phone and his words were totally getting jumbled and messed up also feels more like what a town would do. After that he was upfront with explaining any questions people had. It's just really hard to imagine why scum would do this.


This I do agree with.

Not sure what to make of him overall.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 05 2014 20:27 GMT
#664
On February 06 2014 05:21 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 05:18 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 06 2014 05:11 suki wrote:
On February 06 2014 04:48 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 06 2014 04:42 suki wrote:
I think slam and Balla are firmly town. I think Jonny is also town but that's more a meta read than any close analysis.


I'd agree with Balla24 and JonnyLaw being town, both are actively trying to find and lynch scum, but why Alakaslam?


Call it a gut read? He's been contributing his reads and pushing people when he's here.


That's actually what worries me most about him, since the town-Alakaslam I know plays far more scummy than this one :D

On February 06 2014 05:11 suki wrote:
That episode where he was typing on his phone and his words were totally getting jumbled and messed up also feels more like what a town would do. After that he was upfront with explaining any questions people had. It's just really hard to imagine why scum would do this.


This I do agree with.

Not sure what to make of him overall.


Point out what you're talking about. I only see a few posts where he seems more like scum-slam and FAR more non-sensical trolly town slam.


Take this for example:
On February 05 2014 02:34 Alakaslam wrote:
He just isn't vocalizing his reasons.

Koshi is scummy at first because of his crazy entry to the thread. He is further scummy because he abandons the policy as some sort of joke as soon as he gets fire for it.

Oats is Oats, have you been in many games with him? I don't try to read him yet

Balla24 finally so town ist awesome.

Jaybrundage not near as scummy as I thought he was last night.

But I am devolving into list posting stuff you all either already know or won't care about.

I hope we aren't around looking for some sort of scum tell. I was and I was getting all pissy because I was finding them everywhere. What we need to do is find the unknown, by conventional or unconventional means.

Vote: LoneMeow

jaybrundage why are you scummy? I don't care if you know your alignment is town, why are you scummy? What have you done in this game that is scummy? I want you to look over stuff in your own filter and point it out.

if you feel like it, answer the same question Sidesprang. Or not.


He's freely giving out reads and doing things. This just isn't the Alakaslam I've played with before when he was town. The thing is, people change playstyles so I don't want to call him scum just yet, it's just that this change worries me.

The point is that in previous games he seemed like a total scum-Alakaslam when he was actually town, so now that he does not play like that I'm bothered.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 05 2014 20:35 GMT
#671
On February 06 2014 05:32 JonnyLaw wrote:
lm what do you think of hopeless?


I had him as scummy earlier, then he looked better with increased activity and posts that made sense to me, but the fact that he's disappeared now that the pressure on him has lessened is really suspicious. I can lynch him if I can't get any traction on Koshi.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 05 2014 20:37 GMT
#673
On February 06 2014 05:33 Balla24 wrote:
So you think he's scum or what LoneMeow?

If he is then compile something, if not then what are you posting this about in the first place.

I totally understand what you are TRYING to say, but you need to just come out and say it. He has a few posts where he's pro-town non trolly sharing reads and whatever, but for the most part he's pretty trolly and non-sensical and cryptic. Which is town slam. So for the most part, I see him as town slam.


I don't think he's scum, he's "null but watch carefully", and I want to talk about him with others because it helps me read both you and him, to some extent.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 05 2014 20:58 GMT
#694
On February 06 2014 05:54 Hopeless1der wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 06 2014 04:44 jaybrundage wrote:
Koshi doesn't look to great. He has alot of little snippets and he doesnt seem to be looking for scum. He posted these things telling people to forget about his first post and then ignore his jonny case. However these are some of the only things in his history that are memorable. I also don't like how he comes back into the thread content to sit on his hopeless vote with out even talking to people about reads or trying to discern alignment. It's pretty scummy.

I would be ok with a Koshi lynch. I am a bit worried about switching from hopeless. I feel if hes scum and he just tryharded to get out of the noose if he doesn't keep posting and making reads that he may be a contender for a lynch in a future day.

I would lynch either one before cake tho. I feel like cake is trying to understand the game and is striving to construct reads.

Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 21:32 Koshi wrote:
Cakeman, just ignore that first post I made... There was no Master Plan when I wrote that. I just wrote it...

I slept till now and got to work. Have caught up and Hopeless is the best lynch for today. I played with him in resistance and smb and he had in both games way more thread presence than here on D1.

##unvote
##vote: Hopeless


Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 01:46 Koshi wrote:
On February 06 2014 01:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
On February 06 2014 01:25 Koshi wrote:
Also, I defended you like mad in the game we were masoned as town. Why do you forget that and paint it scummy this game?

you were mod confirmed mason? Or was this LXIII?

Also I read your case on Jonny as pointing out a progression of "LM totes town" to "I could lynch LM". Jonny never actually gets all the way to the end of that progression. This is the post that is closest to saying he'd lynch LM, but that is only to plant the thought that its a possibility, not that he'd actually do it:
On February 04 2014 11:14 JonnyLaw wrote:
LM hasn't given us quality or quantity yet. He says one thing then does another. It's early in the game for me to demand more quality of his posting. At least as far as considering lynching him.

Hi cakeman. Please don't become lynch bait by not posting if you're town.

+ Show Spoiler [@balla] +
This is driving me nuts. I literally just looked at those games as i changed my profile.

nmm xlvii end gamed by balla scum

nmm L, I was shot n2, balla shot N3

nmm LI, balla shot jonnylaw N1

normal mini mafia iballa lynched day 1



LXIII, when rayn was pushing LM for forgettign the Night Kill.

Ok. My Jonny tunnel was ridiculous. I even misread that I think... Let's forget everything I ever said about Jonny.



Lets lynch Koshi. Maybe Hopeless. Yeah those are good lynches. Don't lynch cakeman.

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 06 2014 05:22 jaybrundage wrote:
hmm I think I would still prefer lynching hopeless cause I think he could be a strong scum player. Lonemeow is a decent lynch but lonemeow is a lurker and not difficult to lynch regardless of alignment. Having to lynch hopeless would be more of a chore and I think he still might be scum.

Here are the updated vote counts.

1. Balla24
2. Sidesprang
3. Alakaslam
4. cakemanofdoom -Hopeless, Oats
5. LoneMeow -Suki, Koshi, Jonnylaw
6. Jaybrundage -Alakaslam
7. Hopeless1der -Jaybrundage, Balla
8. Oatsmaster
9. JonnyLaw
10. Suki
11. Koshi -Cake, Lonemeow

Lonemeow is set to be lynched and we have about an hour and a half left.

(Also not this vote count doesn't track past unvotes. Or who voted who first and whatnot its just to know who we are gonna lynch.)


Hmm we should lynch hopeless. LoneMeow maybe but he's easy to lynch later anyways. Lets lynch hopeless.

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 06 2014 05:27 jaybrundage wrote:

##Unvote
##Vote Lonemeow


Again if we wanna do some last minute vote switch shannigans on Hopeless I would totes be down.

1. Balla24
2. Sidesprang
3. Alakaslam
4. cakemanofdoom -Hopeless, Oats
5. LoneMeow -Suki, Koshi, Jonnylaw, Balla, JayBrundage
6. Jaybrundage -Alakaslam
7. Hopeless1der -
8. Oatsmaster
9. JonnyLaw
10. Suki
11. Koshi -Cake, Lonemeow

Lonemeow is set to be lynched and we have about an hour left

(Also not this vote count doesn't track past unvotes. Or who voted who first and whatnot its just to know who we are gonna lynch.)


Oh alright you guys, I guess I can lynch LoneMeow. Btw we should totes lynch Hopeless.



Why did you have to make me want to lynch jaybrundage. If I accept him being scum I must be wrong about both you and Koshi being scum...
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 05 2014 21:07 GMT
#701
On February 06 2014 06:04 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 05:58 LoneMeow wrote:
Why did you have to make me want to lynch jaybrundage. If I accept him being scum I must be wrong about both you and Koshi being scum...


LoneMeow can you explain why Hopeless and Koshi can't be scum if jay is scum.


Well it's not totally impossible, but Hopeless1der is actually pushing for jaybrundage lynch in a situation where it may actually happen and Koshi is also kind of advocating it.

I seriously doubt Hopeless1der is scum if jaybrundage is. In Koshi's case it's a bit more likely since he's only implied he would be up for lynching jaybrundage later.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 05 2014 21:16 GMT
#708
On February 06 2014 05:22 jaybrundage wrote:
hmm I think I would still prefer lynching hopeless cause I think he could be a strong scum player. Lonemeow is a decent lynch but lonemeow is a lurker and not difficult to lynch regardless of alignment. Having to lynch hopeless would be more of a chore and I think he still might be scum.


This is totally bogus reason for wanting to lynch someone over someone else. Priority for town is lynching the scummiest player, not "someone who could be strong scum player".
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 05 2014 21:44 GMT
#722
This wagon on me is a mislynch and jaybrundage is scum.

This progressing is incredibly unnatural:
On February 06 2014 04:44 jaybrundage wrote:
Koshi doesn't look to great. He has alot of little snippets and he doesnt seem to be looking for scum. He posted these things telling people to forget about his first post and then ignore his jonny case. However these are some of the only things in his history that are memorable. I also don't like how he comes back into the thread content to sit on his hopeless vote with out even talking to people about reads or trying to discern alignment. It's pretty scummy.

I would be ok with a Koshi lynch. I am a bit worried about switching from hopeless. I feel if hes scum and he just tryharded to get out of the noose if he doesn't keep posting and making reads that he may be a contender for a lynch in a future day.

I would lynch either one before cake tho. I feel like cake is trying to understand the game and is striving to construct reads.


On February 06 2014 05:22 jaybrundage wrote:
hmm I think I would still prefer lynching hopeless cause I think he could be a strong scum player. Lonemeow is a decent lynch but lonemeow is a lurker and not difficult to lynch regardless of alignment. Having to lynch hopeless would be more of a chore and I think he still might be scum.


On February 06 2014 05:27 jaybrundage wrote:

##Unvote
##Vote Lonemeow


Again if we wanna do some last minute vote switch shannigans on Hopeless I would totes be down.


Doesn't mention me as a lynch choice (despite having cased me earlier!) -> decent lynch -> votes me.

I have convinced myself he's scum.

##Unvote
##Vote: jaybrundage
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 05 2014 21:47 GMT
#725
Also it's intresting that Oatsmaster's vote is safely parked outside the major wagons and he's nowhere to be seen. I'd look closely into that after the lynch.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 05 2014 21:48 GMT
#727
On February 06 2014 06:47 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 06:44 LoneMeow wrote:
This wagon on me is a mislynch and jaybrundage is scum.

This progressing is incredibly unnatural:
On February 06 2014 04:44 jaybrundage wrote:
Koshi doesn't look to great. He has alot of little snippets and he doesnt seem to be looking for scum. He posted these things telling people to forget about his first post and then ignore his jonny case. However these are some of the only things in his history that are memorable. I also don't like how he comes back into the thread content to sit on his hopeless vote with out even talking to people about reads or trying to discern alignment. It's pretty scummy.

I would be ok with a Koshi lynch. I am a bit worried about switching from hopeless. I feel if hes scum and he just tryharded to get out of the noose if he doesn't keep posting and making reads that he may be a contender for a lynch in a future day.

I would lynch either one before cake tho. I feel like cake is trying to understand the game and is striving to construct reads.


On February 06 2014 05:22 jaybrundage wrote:
hmm I think I would still prefer lynching hopeless cause I think he could be a strong scum player. Lonemeow is a decent lynch but lonemeow is a lurker and not difficult to lynch regardless of alignment. Having to lynch hopeless would be more of a chore and I think he still might be scum.


On February 06 2014 05:27 jaybrundage wrote:

##Unvote
##Vote Lonemeow


Again if we wanna do some last minute vote switch shannigans on Hopeless I would totes be down.


Doesn't mention me as a lynch choice (despite having cased me earlier!) -> decent lynch -> votes me.

I have convinced myself he's scum.

##Unvote
##Vote: jaybrundage


I had the impression that he always had you as a lynch target. Since his case on you.


So why doesn't he mention me in the first quote where he talks about other possible lynch candidates and switching? That's just weird.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 05 2014 21:57 GMT
#760
On February 06 2014 06:56 JonnyLaw wrote:
##unvote
##vote lonemeow


Your last posts, including the koshi switch don't make scum sense.

You better be docta jay.


Do NOT vote me. His claim is fake because I am the doctor. If you still do not believe and lynch me, look extremely closely into the people who tried hard to get people to switch.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 05 2014 21:58 GMT
#767
And yes, it really sucks he claimed and forced me to out myself. But that guarantees us a scum lynch so all is not lost.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 05 2014 21:58 GMT
#772
On February 06 2014 06:57 Balla24 wrote:
LM DID YOU CRUMB!?!?!?


No. Didn't intend to claim D1.
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