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On January 28 2014 04:09 yamato77 wrote:Basically, we leave it up to our judgment of your play relative to the play of everyone else in the game. If we feel like your activity or effort is significantly dragging down the game as a whole, we may ask you to step it up, or perhaps replace you if we feel the need.
i think its a bad idea having an ambiguous rule like that.
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On February 03 2014 15:11 yamato77 wrote:
Disregard earlier PMs, we will be rerolling the roles.
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On February 04 2014 08:04 Holyflare wrote:That's a terrible question, we want to know who ISN'T town.
Pft they are one in the same. Nothing i say is terrible.
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On February 04 2014 08:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 08:04 Holyflare wrote:On February 04 2014 08:02 iamperfection wrote:
Who else is town? That's a terrible question, we want to know who ISN'T town. I'm Mafia. How about you?
We got one!!!!!!!!!!!
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On February 04 2014 08:12 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 08:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On February 04 2014 08:04 Holyflare wrote:On February 04 2014 08:02 iamperfection wrote:
Who else is town? That's a terrible question, we want to know who ISN'T town. I'm Mafia. How about you? always lynch the people that claim mafia, you've played enough voice to know that's at least 80% correct!
##vote artanis
But if your saying he knows this why would he do it?
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Are you being serious holy?
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On February 04 2014 08:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
So close.
I was so damn close, and then reroll.
Anyway, ##vote: marv 'cause policy. We can't have someone of your apparent unlynchability running around these parts so it will be my job to draw any and all attention to you as necessary.
This is dumb
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On February 04 2014 08:23 marvellosity wrote:
iamp, you're with me for now.
Way to early to be suggesting mind meld.
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Hrm wave are you being serious?
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On February 04 2014 08:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 08:26 iamperfection wrote:
Hrm wave are you being serious? Was wondering the same thing. Accuses marv of taking a joke too seriously right before taking a joke too seriously himself.
He could be scum misreading the thread thinking the stuff on you was somewhat legitimate and trying to position for later.
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On February 04 2014 08:30 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 08:26 iamperfection wrote:
Hrm wave are you being serious? Bout marv, no. Bout holy/artanis, yes. Gimme a while and ill find examples. It always seemed to me to be more likely to joke about being scum AS scum because it would be seen at endgame to be ballsy as hell even though nobody ever takes it to be alignment indicative.
It gives me pause because it is so different than what I'm thinking.
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Wait lynched people don't flip that seems backwards
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On February 04 2014 08:32 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 08:30 iamperfection wrote:On February 04 2014 08:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On February 04 2014 08:26 iamperfection wrote:
Hrm wave are you being serious? Was wondering the same thing. Accuses marv of taking a joke too seriously right before taking a joke too seriously himself. He could be scum misreading the thread thinking the stuff on you was somewhat legitimate and trying to position for later. LOL Oh please. Nobody but me would ever take that angle seriously.
Well we will see what you do when at computer. Brb dinner
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do you find marv hard to read wave?
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On February 04 2014 09:32 marvellosity wrote:
That's the best early game meta case I've ever seen.
what do you like about it? i didn't find it that compelling.
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we should probably enact a no more joke policy as it is mucking up the thread quite a bit.
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if there is anyone here that is a marv expert its me. no offense
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On February 04 2014 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 09:40 iamperfection wrote:
do you find marv hard to read wave? Considering I 'caught' him very early in the game in Shadow (though I didn't believe myself at the time) I'd say probably not, though at that point I also had never played a game with scum-marv before and there was a lot of other shit going down in thread all game, and marv survived so obviously neither I nor anyone else can really take any credit at all. At the very least I'd feel more confident in my ability to catch him in future games (including this one). I'd probably find rayn my personal 'hardest to read' in this particular game.
then i dont get why you would need to watch him like a "hawk". Unless you are just saying things for show.
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On February 04 2014 09:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh hey I have a poignant question:
How do we plan on dealing with Cephiro this game?
We don't exactly have vig shots to 'waste' if he plans on being lurk city.
um i just peroused his games in the database and he only seems to lurk when he is scum. So i would go with lynch him if he lurks.......
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On February 04 2014 09:51 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 09:49 iamperfection wrote:On February 04 2014 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 04 2014 09:40 iamperfection wrote:
do you find marv hard to read wave? Considering I 'caught' him very early in the game in Shadow (though I didn't believe myself at the time) I'd say probably not, though at that point I also had never played a game with scum-marv before and there was a lot of other shit going down in thread all game, and marv survived so obviously neither I nor anyone else can really take any credit at all. At the very least I'd feel more confident in my ability to catch him in future games (including this one). I'd probably find rayn my personal 'hardest to read' in this particular game. then i dont get why you would need to watch him like a "hawk". Unless you are just saying things for show. Iamp, you're talking a lot about shit you don't understand. Nobody paid much attention to marv at all in Shadow game including me and he got away all game not doing a hell of a lot. Had I or anyone else paid more attention to him (which was rather difficult given the other lynch candidates in thread and how marv played), he may very well have been caught and lynched. Is there a particular reason you're pushing this?
ah yes the game where everyone knew he was scum but didn't lynch him.
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dp what do you think of holy so far alignment wise?
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dp can get emotional as town.
answer my question dp its quite a simple one.
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On February 04 2014 10:44 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 10:38 iamperfection wrote:
dp what do you think of holy so far alignment wise? Fucking awful. Pushing awful cases for no reason makes zero fucking sense to me.
thats not an answer.
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On February 04 2014 10:45 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 10:45 iamperfection wrote:
dp can get emotional as town.
answer my question dp its quite a simple one. I did.
no you didn't
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On February 04 2014 10:46 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 10:45 iamperfection wrote:On February 04 2014 10:44 DarthPunk wrote:On February 04 2014 10:38 iamperfection wrote:
dp what do you think of holy so far alignment wise? Fucking awful. Pushing awful cases for no reason makes zero fucking sense to me. thats not an answer. Fucking awful alignment is not scum? ok SCDFU SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM.
lol
so you calling him scum for being "bad"
cool story
i think your full of shit cause your scum
## Vote DP
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On February 04 2014 10:49 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 10:45 iamperfection wrote:
dp can get emotional as town.
answer my question dp its quite a simple one. Yes. There is a difference though. Getting emotional in the game when people aren't doing something or are town that aren't listening is when it mostly happens. Getting emotional at someone pushing "shit cases" and being "awful" shouldn't trigger those same emotions though, your first thought should be that they are scum pushing an agenda and then further investigate. Especially as DP has said "HF is a good town player that I listened to" (in Titanic). So if he thinks I am being shit in this game he should jump to the conclusion that I am being scum. Yet, this anger relates to someone that has a scum mindset of a towny pushing a case that doesn't "make sense to me even if I AM scum".
im 3 steps ahead of you
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dp must be / better be scum
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although i would like more time
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## Unvote
just so everyone can post and what not
fully intend to kill dp
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On February 04 2014 10:54 marvellosity wrote:
I'm outlawing the phrase "mind meld"
i just started it. People always steal my shit so i need to come up with new stuff. I will eventually run out of things
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On February 04 2014 10:56 DarthPunk wrote:
Like he is consciously saying things he know I fucking rage about. Example one. That meta case when he know I fucking hate meta cases.
Example two. Calling me out for saying artanis did something that holyflare KNEW HE DID BECAUSE HE SAID IT TO HOLYFLARE.
WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK.
how does that make him mafia dear?
Your being totally unreasonable.
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On February 04 2014 10:59 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 10:58 marvellosity wrote:
The meta case was clearly not serious.
And no Holy's case, 2 hours into the game, was not the sexiest case I've ever seen in the history of mafia.
So what? He is pushing my fucking buttons. He is trying to make me rage by doing things he knows make me rage. And surprise it worked.
and that has happened before with you and me and you know what you did when you were town you eventually put shit aside and tried to help lynch mafia.
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On February 04 2014 11:23 DarthPunk wrote:Yes. That is why you calling me scum for it is dumb.
then why didn't you learn anything from it.
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On February 04 2014 11:15 DarthPunk wrote:
the simplest answer is: If there is no reason to do something as town then that person is very likely not to be town.
specifically why would you say something like this when you know it isn't true.
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On February 04 2014 11:28 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 11:25 Holyflare wrote:On February 04 2014 11:23 Promethelax wrote:On February 04 2014 11:19 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2014 11:16 DarthPunk wrote:On February 04 2014 11:15 Promethelax wrote:On February 04 2014 11:12 DarthPunk wrote:On February 04 2014 11:09 Promethelax wrote:
I kinda really want to lynch DP for martyring.
I hate people who vote themselves in IML.
Policy: all lynches occur on the third day of the day cycle. It's not the same in this setup because you get a vig shot bro. one bad shot and lylo. Totally the same, lynching scum>vigging them. Actually maybe not now that I write it down. Would prefer to lynch a townie who was on the margins of looking scummy and have them shoot a scum. It will confirm two alignments. Was thinking in the pre game if one player is kicking ass and taking names for town scum may actually choose to bus to be able to use their shot on said player. We should not be too confidant that those who push scum are town. There is valid reason for scum to bus even when neither scum is in danger. That is a fucking stupid plan if you are scum. Actually it's interesting and worth spending at least some thought on. Some time down the line you have player A and player B, both are suspicious and town is deciding between them. One mafia one townie. One is going to be lynched, the other will be vigged by the lynched player (seems a sensible play). Makes sense for the mafia in that situation to bus the mafia, so the mafia dies and doesn't flip, and the townie flips. Probably a better result for mafia than the townie not flipping and shooting the mafia who does flip. So it seems there's probably situations where bussing might be optimal for mafia It is actually a great plan for mafia. Even more than that the bussed mafia can shoot bigawesometownie1 and next day it is likely that town will lynch scummylookingtowniewhowasupforlynch since lynchedmafiaplayerX didn't shoot him. Does DP saying that a great plan for mafia is shitty make him scum? Yes/no? That is why we come to a consensus and make the people we lynch shoot specific targets. Can I assume for a minute that you are not dumb? Given your play in past games I think I can assume that. Why will mafia do what we tell them? If we all get together to lynch Cephero and he says he'll shoot artanis but really shoots marv how do we punish him for that? We don't. He is already dead. So why are you harping on this point. You haven't thought about this at all, have you?
then we would know cephiro is scum.......
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maybe you haven't thought about this at all prom.........
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On February 04 2014 11:29 marvellosity wrote:
TOO LATE IAMP
i use less words so my post is better.
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On February 04 2014 11:30 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 11:24 iamperfection wrote:On February 04 2014 11:23 DarthPunk wrote:Yes. That is why you calling me scum for it is dumb. then why didn't you learn anything from it. Because people intentionally trolling me makes me emotional. and that is sometimes difficult to control. If everyone could control their emotions all the time that would be great. It is also impossible. Why are you calling me scum for doing the same thing that I did to you as town? When you clearly remember that situation enough to quote it to me?
because you eventually tried to hunt scum. I don't think your doing that if you contest that holy would be your shot.
You know if you have a fault you should try to fix it.
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On February 04 2014 11:32 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 11:29 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2014 11:28 Promethelax wrote:On February 04 2014 11:25 Holyflare wrote:On February 04 2014 11:23 Promethelax wrote:On February 04 2014 11:19 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2014 11:16 DarthPunk wrote:On February 04 2014 11:15 Promethelax wrote:On February 04 2014 11:12 DarthPunk wrote:On February 04 2014 11:09 Promethelax wrote:
I kinda really want to lynch DP for martyring.
I hate people who vote themselves in IML.
Policy: all lynches occur on the third day of the day cycle. It's not the same in this setup because you get a vig shot bro. one bad shot and lylo. Totally the same, lynching scum>vigging them. Actually maybe not now that I write it down. Would prefer to lynch a townie who was on the margins of looking scummy and have them shoot a scum. It will confirm two alignments. Was thinking in the pre game if one player is kicking ass and taking names for town scum may actually choose to bus to be able to use their shot on said player. We should not be too confidant that those who push scum are town. There is valid reason for scum to bus even when neither scum is in danger. That is a fucking stupid plan if you are scum. Actually it's interesting and worth spending at least some thought on. Some time down the line you have player A and player B, both are suspicious and town is deciding between them. One mafia one townie. One is going to be lynched, the other will be vigged by the lynched player (seems a sensible play). Makes sense for the mafia in that situation to bus the mafia, so the mafia dies and doesn't flip, and the townie flips. Probably a better result for mafia than the townie not flipping and shooting the mafia who does flip. So it seems there's probably situations where bussing might be optimal for mafia It is actually a great plan for mafia. Even more than that the bussed mafia can shoot bigawesometownie1 and next day it is likely that town will lynch scummylookingtowniewhowasupforlynch since lynchedmafiaplayerX didn't shoot him. Does DP saying that a great plan for mafia is shitty make him scum? Yes/no? That is why we come to a consensus and make the people we lynch shoot specific targets. Can I assume for a minute that you are not dumb? Given your play in past games I think I can assume that. Why will mafia do what we tell them? If we all get together to lynch Cephero and he says he'll shoot artanis but really shoots marv how do we punish him for that? We don't. He is already dead. So why are you harping on this point. You haven't thought about this at all, have you? Play nice. That scenario removes the doubt from Cephiro's flip, which is a decently good thing. Given that we lynched him I'd say we're reasonably sure. I still think scum killing townie#1 and town knowing that dead guy=scum is > for scum than townie#4 being dead and town not knowing if dead=scum maybe that is just me though.
wat !?! you never mislynch people?
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On February 04 2014 11:36 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 11:32 iamperfection wrote:On February 04 2014 11:30 DarthPunk wrote:On February 04 2014 11:24 iamperfection wrote:On February 04 2014 11:23 DarthPunk wrote:Yes. That is why you calling me scum for it is dumb. then why didn't you learn anything from it. Because people intentionally trolling me makes me emotional. and that is sometimes difficult to control. If everyone could control their emotions all the time that would be great. It is also impossible. Why are you calling me scum for doing the same thing that I did to you as town? When you clearly remember that situation enough to quote it to me? because you eventually tried to hunt scum. I don't think your doing that if you contest that holy would be your shot. You know if you have a fault you should try to fix it. I would have shot you in that other game just because I was mad. So not alignment indicative at all.
bullshit
you put shit aside and hunted scum.
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On February 04 2014 11:39 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 11:38 iamperfection wrote:On February 04 2014 11:36 DarthPunk wrote:On February 04 2014 11:32 iamperfection wrote:On February 04 2014 11:30 DarthPunk wrote:On February 04 2014 11:24 iamperfection wrote:On February 04 2014 11:23 DarthPunk wrote:Yes. That is why you calling me scum for it is dumb. then why didn't you learn anything from it. Because people intentionally trolling me makes me emotional. and that is sometimes difficult to control. If everyone could control their emotions all the time that would be great. It is also impossible. Why are you calling me scum for doing the same thing that I did to you as town? When you clearly remember that situation enough to quote it to me? because you eventually tried to hunt scum. I don't think your doing that if you contest that holy would be your shot. You know if you have a fault you should try to fix it. I would have shot you in that other game just because I was mad. So not alignment indicative at all. bullshit you put shit aside and hunted scum. Like 24 hours later. I literally went to bed in between. Read the thread you are quoting. This game is 3 hours old or something. Not the same thing.
that is false maybe you should read the thread im quoting.
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this whole discussion about artanis claiming being alignment indicative is pointless. The claim is irrelevant in my view. We should just see what he has to say when he get back. Im null on artanis he hasn't done anything in my view and its still early.
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On February 04 2014 11:50 Promethelax wrote:
While we sit around waiting for DP to sift through Art's filters shall we move this discussion away from Dp and towards HF? Yes, yes we shall.
Why did Holy just vanish, he was here excited to be playing but when things got hot he got out of the kitchen. He was here to claim a mindmeld and here to argue its validity but he hasn't provided anything new to the discussion. Is HF scum? Inside sources say yes.
um he seemed to me to be putting quite the spotlight on himself with his cases on dp and he pretty much shit posted with dp for awhile while promoting discussion. dont seem like scum things to me. maybe you should check your sources.
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On February 04 2014 11:55 DarthPunk wrote:
OK I just went and looked through all his games and he has only claimed scum once as mafia in his last game.
ok....
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On February 04 2014 11:57 DarthPunk wrote:
He claims shit all the time in voice though so I am not sure how applicable that is.
so we agree its irrelevant.
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maybe im trying to figure out your alignment.
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at least you didnt pick up your ball and go home so maybe you are town
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On February 04 2014 12:49 Promethelax wrote:
Iamp: since you are here wanna join in the fun? Do WoS.
no. i dont like being told what to do. I do as i please.
but if you really do want to see stuff i had some inklings earlier on the subject im sure you can find. they arent strong though
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On February 04 2014 13:10 WaveofShadow wrote:Oh yeah, come to think of it, you never answered me. Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 09:51 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 04 2014 09:49 iamperfection wrote:On February 04 2014 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 04 2014 09:40 iamperfection wrote:
do you find marv hard to read wave? Considering I 'caught' him very early in the game in Shadow (though I didn't believe myself at the time) I'd say probably not, though at that point I also had never played a game with scum-marv before and there was a lot of other shit going down in thread all game, and marv survived so obviously neither I nor anyone else can really take any credit at all. At the very least I'd feel more confident in my ability to catch him in future games (including this one). I'd probably find rayn my personal 'hardest to read' in this particular game. then i dont get why you would need to watch him like a "hawk". Unless you are just saying things for show. Iamp, you're talking a lot about shit you don't understand. Nobody paid much attention to marv at all in Shadow game including me and he got away all game not doing a hell of a lot. Had I or anyone else paid more attention to him (which was rather difficult given the other lynch candidates in thread and how marv played), he may very well have been caught and lynched. Is there a particular reason you're pushing this?
because what you said makes no sense.
You say im going to totes be watching you marv so closely but then admit he isn't hard to read. Those two statements cant go together. Which would therefore imply that you dont really intend to watch him closely and are just using that language for show. therefore you would be scum.
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On February 04 2014 13:18 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 13:16 iamperfection wrote:On February 04 2014 13:10 WaveofShadow wrote:Oh yeah, come to think of it, you never answered me. On February 04 2014 09:51 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 04 2014 09:49 iamperfection wrote:On February 04 2014 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 04 2014 09:40 iamperfection wrote:
do you find marv hard to read wave? Considering I 'caught' him very early in the game in Shadow (though I didn't believe myself at the time) I'd say probably not, though at that point I also had never played a game with scum-marv before and there was a lot of other shit going down in thread all game, and marv survived so obviously neither I nor anyone else can really take any credit at all. At the very least I'd feel more confident in my ability to catch him in future games (including this one). I'd probably find rayn my personal 'hardest to read' in this particular game. then i dont get why you would need to watch him like a "hawk". Unless you are just saying things for show. Iamp, you're talking a lot about shit you don't understand. Nobody paid much attention to marv at all in Shadow game including me and he got away all game not doing a hell of a lot. Had I or anyone else paid more attention to him (which was rather difficult given the other lynch candidates in thread and how marv played), he may very well have been caught and lynched. Is there a particular reason you're pushing this? because what you said makes no sense. You say im going to totes be watching you marv so closely but then admit he isn't hard to read. Those two statements cant go together. Which would therefore imply that you dont really intend to watch him closely and are just using that language for show. therefore you would be scum. It makes perfect sense iamp. I said I'm watching him closely because despite not being too hard to read, he still didn't get lynched last game because PEOPLE DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION TO HIM. Hence, I am paying attention to him closely in this game. Flerp herp derp. Like...am I missing something that's hard to understand here that I've had to repeat myself?
You didnt pay attention to him because he was playing circles around you guys and just wont admit it. This whole we all totally knew he was scum is bs.
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no i said it isnt a strong read.
your right when you say its different when your from an outside but it seems like half the people in that game are going i totally knew it that marv was scum yet there wasn't even really a case brought against him the entire game implies you guys are delusional.
but we are getting off topic
This is my thought process spelled out slowly for you.
1. Wave says he will be watching marv closely
2. iamperfection wonders why and ask if he has trouble reading marv.
3. Wave says he dosnt think marv is hard to read.
4. This does not compute for iamperfection with the watching closely.
When people seem to have thought process that make no sense to me it makes me think they might be scum.
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