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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 04 2014 00:49 GMT
#141
On February 04 2014 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 09:40 iamperfection wrote:
do you find marv hard to read wave?

Considering I 'caught' him very early in the game in Shadow (though I didn't believe myself at the time) I'd say probably not, though at that point I also had never played a game with scum-marv before and there was a lot of other shit going down in thread all game, and marv survived so obviously neither I nor anyone else can really take any credit at all. At the very least I'd feel more confident in my ability to catch him in future games (including this one).

I'd probably find rayn my personal 'hardest to read' in this particular game.

then i dont get why you would need to watch him like a "hawk". Unless you are just saying things for show.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 04 2014 00:50 GMT
#142
On February 04 2014 09:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh hey I have a poignant question:
How do we plan on dealing with Cephiro this game?
We don't exactly have vig shots to 'waste' if he plans on being lurk city.


we have a lot of vig shots what are you saying?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2014 00:51 GMT
#143
On February 04 2014 09:49 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 04 2014 09:40 iamperfection wrote:
do you find marv hard to read wave?

Considering I 'caught' him very early in the game in Shadow (though I didn't believe myself at the time) I'd say probably not, though at that point I also had never played a game with scum-marv before and there was a lot of other shit going down in thread all game, and marv survived so obviously neither I nor anyone else can really take any credit at all. At the very least I'd feel more confident in my ability to catch him in future games (including this one).

I'd probably find rayn my personal 'hardest to read' in this particular game.

then i dont get why you would need to watch him like a "hawk". Unless you are just saying things for show.

^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 04 2014 00:51 GMT
#144
On February 04 2014 09:49 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 04 2014 09:40 iamperfection wrote:
do you find marv hard to read wave?

Considering I 'caught' him very early in the game in Shadow (though I didn't believe myself at the time) I'd say probably not, though at that point I also had never played a game with scum-marv before and there was a lot of other shit going down in thread all game, and marv survived so obviously neither I nor anyone else can really take any credit at all. At the very least I'd feel more confident in my ability to catch him in future games (including this one).

I'd probably find rayn my personal 'hardest to read' in this particular game.

then i dont get why you would need to watch him like a "hawk". Unless you are just saying things for show.

Iamp, you're talking a lot about shit you don't understand. Nobody paid much attention to marv at all in Shadow game including me and he got away all game not doing a hell of a lot. Had I or anyone else paid more attention to him (which was rather difficult given the other lynch candidates in thread and how marv played), he may very well have been caught and lynched.

Is there a particular reason you're pushing this?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 04 2014 00:52 GMT
#145
On February 04 2014 09:50 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 09:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh hey I have a poignant question:
How do we plan on dealing with Cephiro this game?
We don't exactly have vig shots to 'waste' if he plans on being lurk city.


we have a lot of vig shots what are you saying?

6-3
If we mislynch and our first vig shot hits town, it's LYLO.
How exactly do we have 'lots' of shots?
You were there when we talked about this on TS I thought.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 04 2014 00:53 GMT
#146
On February 04 2014 09:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh hey I have a poignant question:
How do we plan on dealing with Cephiro this game?
We don't exactly have vig shots to 'waste' if he plans on being lurk city.

um i just peroused his games in the database and he only seems to lurk when he is scum. So i would go with lynch him if he lurks.......
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 04 2014 00:54 GMT
#147
I've got a little work to do but I'll be around in a couple hours I think.
By all means, keep the questions coming ladies. The earlier we reach the inevitable the better.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 04 2014 00:55 GMT
#148
On February 04 2014 09:53 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 09:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh hey I have a poignant question:
How do we plan on dealing with Cephiro this game?
We don't exactly have vig shots to 'waste' if he plans on being lurk city.

um i just peroused his games in the database and he only seems to lurk when he is scum. So i would go with lynch him if he lurks.......

Pretty sure he lurked in his most recent game as well.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 04 2014 00:56 GMT
#149
On February 04 2014 09:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 09:49 iamperfection wrote:
On February 04 2014 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 04 2014 09:40 iamperfection wrote:
do you find marv hard to read wave?

Considering I 'caught' him very early in the game in Shadow (though I didn't believe myself at the time) I'd say probably not, though at that point I also had never played a game with scum-marv before and there was a lot of other shit going down in thread all game, and marv survived so obviously neither I nor anyone else can really take any credit at all. At the very least I'd feel more confident in my ability to catch him in future games (including this one).

I'd probably find rayn my personal 'hardest to read' in this particular game.

then i dont get why you would need to watch him like a "hawk". Unless you are just saying things for show.

Iamp, you're talking a lot about shit you don't understand. Nobody paid much attention to marv at all in Shadow game including me and he got away all game not doing a hell of a lot. Had I or anyone else paid more attention to him (which was rather difficult given the other lynch candidates in thread and how marv played), he may very well have been caught and lynched.

Is there a particular reason you're pushing this?

ah yes the game where everyone knew he was scum but didn't lynch him.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 04 2014 01:05 GMT
#150
On February 04 2014 09:44 marvellosity wrote:
That's because there's nothing to like about it. I'd hoped Holy was going to present it a bit more seriously tbh.


Wait wtf? Did you know he was going to do that before it happened? Care to elaborate?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 04 2014 01:07 GMT
#151
On February 04 2014 09:38 marvellosity wrote:
If you annoy me I'll just have you lynched, so go ahead


No one is lynching people just because they annoy you marv.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 04 2014 01:09 GMT
#152
Ok enough trolling.

I'm calling out DP for his weird shitty posts so far.

On February 04 2014 08:53 DarthPunk wrote:
Well. WE should lynch artanis. The dude claimed scum. If someone claims scum, you lynch them. Pretty easy right>?


First, he starts off by saying this. I do not know whether it was a joke or not but I am almost sure that it was in fact serious based on his later post.

However, what piqued my interest was by the way he differentiated artanis' "joke" claim and wave's/marv's posts. For example:

On February 04 2014 08:58 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 08:23 marvellosity wrote:
On February 04 2014 08:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
So close.
I was so damn close, and then reroll.

Anyway, ##vote: marv 'cause policy. We can't have someone of your apparent unlynchability running around these parts so it will be my job to draw any and all attention to you as necessary.

Given this is a vengeful game, this is probably the stupidest thing you could possibly have written. Every single person that gets lynched can shoot me if they so please.


That was clearly a joke right? Dno why you would treat it like it meant something.

He calls out marv for getting all antsy on WoS's joke and questions why he would jump on it but then like 5 posts later he actually delves into calling out artanis and wanting him to reason out why he said he was mafia, treating it like it meant something.

On February 04 2014 09:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Artanis. For what reason did you claim scum? Do you think town is more likely to claim scum or that mafia are. What reason does town have to claim mafia ever?


This is quite clearly a drastic change in mindset and an opener that I'd equivocate to scum trying to start weaving a fabrication in the thread.

Also, DP tried to rationalise artanis' intentions:

On February 04 2014 09:15 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 09:15 DarthPunk wrote:
The difference with those claims is the undertone of fake claiming mafia in order for mafia to out themselves.


I guess artanis kind of did this though.


For no good reason. Not trying to figure anything out, just poking in places where he thinks he can form an elaborate web of lies.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 04 2014 01:16 GMT
#153
Well that is a shitty case Holyflare.

Firstly you were in Titanic II so you know that that is my position on scum claims. Vayne claimed scum and I pushed for his lynch.

Secondly I differentiate between Artanis claiming scum and Wave poking at marv cause I don;t see the point of ever claiming scum as town.

Thirdly, I don't know what the fuck you are talking about when you say I'm trying to weave a fabrication in the thread. I want to know how artanis feels about scum claims in general in order to learn something of his mindset.

And lastly there was a good reason. I was commenting on something wave posted in which that very thing had happened.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 04 2014 01:17 GMT
#154
Why are you so obsessed with me Holyflare? That is the second shitty post in a row calling me mafia for no reasons. Doesn't make sense.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 04 2014 01:19 GMT
#155
And like the things that you are calling me out for are 'weaving fabrications' and 'forming elaborate webs of lies.'

Like what does that even mean?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 04 2014 01:20 GMT
#156
On February 04 2014 10:16 DarthPunk wrote:
Well that is a shitty case Holyflare.

Firstly you were in Titanic II so you know that that is my position on scum claims. Vayne claimed scum and I pushed for his lynch.

Secondly I differentiate between Artanis claiming scum and Wave poking at marv cause I don;t see the point of ever claiming scum as town.

Thirdly, I don't know what the fuck you are talking about when you say I'm trying to weave a fabrication in the thread. I want to know how artanis feels about scum claims in general in order to learn something of his mindset.

And lastly there was a good reason. I was commenting on something wave posted in which that very thing had happened.


This. Specifically. You aren't pushing for a lynch on Artanis. In fact, you rationalised SOMEHOW that his fake claim was the same as the one WoS linked that was trying to draw out other mafia claims.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 04 2014 01:21 GMT
#157
On February 04 2014 10:20 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 10:16 DarthPunk wrote:
Well that is a shitty case Holyflare.

Firstly you were in Titanic II so you know that that is my position on scum claims. Vayne claimed scum and I pushed for his lynch.

Secondly I differentiate between Artanis claiming scum and Wave poking at marv cause I don;t see the point of ever claiming scum as town.

Thirdly, I don't know what the fuck you are talking about when you say I'm trying to weave a fabrication in the thread. I want to know how artanis feels about scum claims in general in order to learn something of his mindset.

And lastly there was a good reason. I was commenting on something wave posted in which that very thing had happened.


This. Specifically. You aren't pushing for a lynch on Artanis. In fact, you rationalised SOMEHOW that his fake claim was the same as the one WoS linked that was trying to draw out other mafia claims.

lol
I could take this one but instead imma let DP handle this.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 04 2014 01:22 GMT
#158
On February 04 2014 10:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 10:20 Holyflare wrote:
On February 04 2014 10:16 DarthPunk wrote:
Well that is a shitty case Holyflare.

Firstly you were in Titanic II so you know that that is my position on scum claims. Vayne claimed scum and I pushed for his lynch.

Secondly I differentiate between Artanis claiming scum and Wave poking at marv cause I don;t see the point of ever claiming scum as town.

Thirdly, I don't know what the fuck you are talking about when you say I'm trying to weave a fabrication in the thread. I want to know how artanis feels about scum claims in general in order to learn something of his mindset.

And lastly there was a good reason. I was commenting on something wave posted in which that very thing had happened.


This. Specifically. You aren't pushing for a lynch on Artanis. In fact, you rationalised SOMEHOW that his fake claim was the same as the one WoS linked that was trying to draw out other mafia claims.

lol
I could take this one but instead imma let DP handle this.


On February 04 2014 09:15 DarthPunk wrote:
The difference with those claims is the undertone of fake claiming mafia in order for mafia to out themselves.


I guess artanis kind of did this though. [/QUOTE]
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 04 2014 01:23 GMT
#159
EBWOP:
On February 04 2014 10:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 10:20 Holyflare wrote:
On February 04 2014 10:16 DarthPunk wrote:
Well that is a shitty case Holyflare.

Firstly you were in Titanic II so you know that that is my position on scum claims. Vayne claimed scum and I pushed for his lynch.

Secondly I differentiate between Artanis claiming scum and Wave poking at marv cause I don;t see the point of ever claiming scum as town.

Thirdly, I don't know what the fuck you are talking about when you say I'm trying to weave a fabrication in the thread. I want to know how artanis feels about scum claims in general in order to learn something of his mindset.

And lastly there was a good reason. I was commenting on something wave posted in which that very thing had happened.


This. Specifically. You aren't pushing for a lynch on Artanis. In fact, you rationalised SOMEHOW that his fake claim was the same as the one WoS linked that was trying to draw out other mafia claims.

lol
I could take this one but instead imma let DP handle this.



On February 04 2014 09:15 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 09:15 DarthPunk wrote:
The difference with those claims is the undertone of fake claiming mafia in order for mafia to out themselves.


I guess artanis kind of did this though.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
February 04 2014 01:25 GMT
#160
On February 04 2014 10:20 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 10:16 DarthPunk wrote:
Well that is a shitty case Holyflare.

Firstly you were in Titanic II so you know that that is my position on scum claims. Vayne claimed scum and I pushed for his lynch.

Secondly I differentiate between Artanis claiming scum and Wave poking at marv cause I don;t see the point of ever claiming scum as town.

Thirdly, I don't know what the fuck you are talking about when you say I'm trying to weave a fabrication in the thread. I want to know how artanis feels about scum claims in general in order to learn something of his mindset.

And lastly there was a good reason. I was commenting on something wave posted in which that very thing had happened.


This. Specifically. You aren't pushing for a lynch on Artanis. In fact, you rationalised SOMEHOW that his fake claim was the same as the one WoS linked that was trying to draw out other mafia claims.


That is because it is an IML game and there is no reason not to use time and wait for him to say stuff.

Further I don't like voting early in IML because I like having the hammer.

I asked artanis questions and am waiting for him to respond. I commented on some other examples of scum claims that wave provided, I didn't rationalise. He asked someone if they were scum too. That is the exact same thing holyflare.
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