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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 21 2014 16:26 GMT
#1641
Also, you posted your case in the voting thread.
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 21 2014 16:32 GMT
#1642
Yea comes from messing around with multiple tabs in the voting thread and whatnot

This is just in case that matt flips town, bolded the players I find relevant.

+ Show Spoiler +

On February 17 2014 23:21 Ange777 wrote:
FINAL VOTE COUNT:

thrawn2112 (0): IAmRobik
VIVAX420 (0): thrawn2112, Grackaroni, ShiaoPi
IAmRobik (0): roundabound
DoNotPanic! (0): roundabound
Grackaroni (1): IAmRobik, JarJarDrinks
sidesprang (2): roundabound, VIVAX420, Grackaroni, roundabound, JarJarDrinks
ShiaoPi (7): bumatlarge, VIVAX420, Mattchew, roundabound, sidesprang, thrawn2112, VIVAX420, Mattchew, bumatlarge, thrawn2112, sidesprang, gumshoe, roundabound
QuantumPope (1): ShiaoPi, sidesprang
roundabound (0): roundabound,sidesprang, Mattchew, bumatlarge, gumshoe
bumatlarge (0): roundabound
Mordanis (0): roundabound, thrawn2112



ShiaoPi, the Progamer has been lynched.
+ Show Spoiler +
Progamer (Vanilla Townie): You're one of the best players of your era. You've fought your way here, to the finals of the GOM Special League Season II! Your favorite things are Farming and long walks on the beach. You are a VT. Find and destroy the cheesers.




It is now Night 1. You have until Tuesday, Feb 18 2:21pm GMT (GMT+00:00) to send your nightactions to the host and all co-hosts! You may post during night.


On February 22 2014 00:21 marvellosity wrote:
VOTE COUNT:

Mattchew (5): JarJarDrinks, Grackaroni, gumshoe, roundabound, Grackaroni, JarJarDrinks, IAmRobik
gumshoe (1): roundabound, IAmRobik, sidesprang,
bumatlarge (1): Mordanis
sidesprang (1): JarJarDrinks, bumatlarge, IAmRobik
JarJarDrinks (0): Grackaroni

With 10 players alive it takes 6 votes to lynch. Only votes in the Voting Thread will be counted!



Atm I'm thinking gum could be scum.

Reasons:

First:
On February 16 2014 17:20 gumshoe wrote:
Haro! So I've pretty much blitzed through the thread, but obviously the most recent event eclipses everything that came before it so I've reconfigured most of my reads in light of it. The only reason I can see Moc quitting like he has is if he feels like his scum team has completely failed him, which he straight up acknowledges in the case of Rayn. Gives me the sense that most of his scum team are incompetent and already under pressure. I also dont think hed reveal like this if there were one or two members of his team on at his time of confession, which would be a bit of a dick move, this tentatively clears Grack( who I had pinged as null) thrawn(his posting aggravates me a smidge just like in the last serius game we played, so probs town) and bum, all of whom had decent thread presence and posted within a couple hours of mocstas confession. Bum I especially consider townie because of how seemingly sincere hes been in his attempts to push discussion, case in point this post glows green to my eyes.

"It seems like you have a stronger read on Vivax then you do QuantomPope. Can you respond to what he has said. I would appreciate if you two(three?) would hash out what you think of each other. I'm in the same boat with your scum list, but because you don't go into much detail, I can't benefit from what you think!"

An attempt at getting a contribution out of a player whose likely to be lynched comes off as a weird scum play, unless that scum player is totally confident that the townie will provide misinformation. Something I dont think a scum bum would count on.

Vivax also posted within range of the confession, but even disregarding that I honestly cant believe Mocsta would quit like this if he had Vivax on his team. Same reasoning applies to rob.

Which leaves a pool of six within which lies the last two scum.

1:Shiapi: Has done extremely little for town, that much hasnt changed, Round hasnt really said much on him all game long, usually deflecting questions or arguments against him onto someone else, only once he became the clear lynch did Moc/rayn hop on the wagon faithfully. A shiapi scum partner would def fit the bad scum team narrative.

2:Mattchew: Posts a bunch of one liners, mostly comments on others reads, has a relative amount of heat on him, thread presence low to medium. I dont think hes scum with shiapi unless shiao called his mother a goat or something. Although that would explain Mocs exasperation with his team, meh.

3: Quantom Pope: Extremely low content, could definitely see Mocsta getting pissed about being with this guy.

4:Mordanis: His early posts look like they have some actual, albiet befuddled, thought to them but his targets are odd, and bieng reasonable more often than not does not translate to bieng townie. He goes after Rob and Vivax, two relatively green players at the time, strange choices even if you take into account the volatile nature of any games start. Another odd thing is Rounds hard defense of him.

"I think Mordanis has about the best posts in thread. Yes they are worded a bit awkwardly and idk what that means. He can answer for himself about that. The "brb gonna go write a wall of text case against everyone" is an obvious joke and everyone should be able to realise it.."

at the time Mordanis had done a decent amount of contribution, but it's odd just how far Round sticks his neck out for him, going so far as to call his posts the best thread... Not even sure if Rayn's the kinda player to do that if they were buddies. Could just as well be post flip posturing on a possible lynch target, a motive backed up by Rayns willingness to change his stance on Mord as scum got more desperate for a lynch. Definitely a frustrating scum partner to have, so Mord does fit the terrible scum team theory.

5: Sidesprang: Not much of a contributor, but reads townie to me . Him asking for my replacement seems like a pretty unscummy thing to do, scum would want my slot to stay inactive as long as possible, yet here he is pretty much begging for a real contributor. Also his asking for a townie certificate... Considering the dark green and bloody history of Coag's accursed emblem, seems pretty brazen. Oh and his first vote, although a light hearted one, was on Mocsta... yeah maybe hes scum? Extremely reckless if thats the case, doesn't ultimately read red to me.

6: Jar Jar: least scummy of the bunch, has his own thoughts, pushes his own reads, generally helps town, I can elaborate if anyone likes but if you read through his filter you can see that although sherlock he aint, hes certainly doing more for town than anyone else on this list,(admittedly not saying much.)

Thats all for now, if anyone has any questions, I'll answer them tomorrow, it's been a long day, gl and good night town.

Oh and regardless of all this, no reason to not vote round. Hurray for free lynch!


+ gum is sure that mocstas fakeclaim was real, builds all his cases around that theory (weak scumteam)
+ He says "it leaves a pool of six in which lies scum", but his last two reads are townreads! He's just opening himself up to lynching people that simply are at risk of getting lynched by some townies, not people he really reads as scummy.
Else why would he read two people as town in a list of people he should find scummy.

After Mocsta's fake?claim shenanigans are over he posts this:

On February 17 2014 01:11 gumshoe wrote:
Helop again, prior to my" train wreck " post I had a pretty generic catchup one in the works. Didn't have much to contribute in there except for a scum read on Mattchew, Who I feel has played pretty loosely and I still think is likely scum. I consider Mocsta a pretty serious player , so when he scum claims I tend to bilieve it, it was in fact a slow game, and I could easily see him getting fed up with a newb scum team, so I ran away with the idea and provided my own reads based off what I considered a likely fact instead of just repeating what other players have already said( been a slow game) If Mocsta is actually town, he's done something extremely cruel to his other head, especially considering how much work rayns put into the game. That said, if we're intent on not lynching him then I'm just going to ignore mocstas posts going forward, and I'll just consider Rayn as round, because I have no idea what Moc wants out of this game( clearly not to win) and if we're not lynching him then there's nothing to be done about a player whose not playing to his win con. As for side, again I don't read him as scummy, he's so brazenly bad ) : like he's proud of it, I can't justify his behaviour if he's scum, he's doing effectively nothing to upset town or prevent his own lynch.

Rob, any questions for me? Do you think Matt and Shias could be scum together?


A post that reeks of overjustification for all his set of reads.Moreover, he doesn't update his scumreads upon getting the information. He only talks about the Mocasta shit.

On February 17 2014 22:07 gumshoe wrote:
While I have my reservations about killing side( he enjoys his predicament a bit too much to be scum, reminds me of how I act when I'm about to get lynched for lurking as town,) as I mentioned before I have no issue killing shiapi, he's serious but useless at the same time, it feels like he's actually under pressure.


+ Quick reason to jump on ShiaoPi. He just had to justify his reads being based on a fakeclaim, but ShiaoPi being part of them didn't change anything.
Why say that your old reads are obsolete cause the claim was fake and then still stick to them (and use them on the go for a townie lynch)

And then

boom
On February 17 2014 22:10 gumshoe wrote:
##unvote

##vote shiaopi


On February 17 2014 22:53 Mocsta wrote:
##unvote
##vote: shiaopi


Other opinions encouraged.
Kush and Vivax
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 21 2014 16:36 GMT
#1643
The ONLY reason I don't think that gum is scum is because of the RB claim. Otherwise, I'm in 100% agreement with you regarding your post. And I think I brought this up earlier...if not, I was definitely thinking it.
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 21 2014 16:37 GMT
#1644
Oh and forgot something:

How does this partial post
On February 16 2014 17:20 gumshoe wrote:
(...)and bum, all of whom had decent thread presence and posted within a couple hours of mocstas confession. Bum I especially consider townie because of how seemingly sincere hes been in his attempts to push discussion, case in point this post glows green to my eyes.


fit to this post:

On February 21 2014 13:48 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 13:23 bumatlarge wrote:
On February 21 2014 12:23 gumshoe wrote:
On February 21 2014 10:21 bumatlarge wrote:
On February 21 2014 06:47 gumshoe wrote:
On February 21 2014 06:14 IAmRobik wrote:
gumshoe, you were rb'd last night, yah?

that's one of the only reasons I don't want to lynch you.

as for bum...I explaining why i think he's town a couple pages back


if push comes to shove, i'll vote mattchew. I don't like the speed at which he got pressured this game especially with the votes d2. We'll see though. I'm down for whatever at this point as long as it's not vivax420, roundabound, me, gumshoe, bum, or grack (i think that's my town circle at the moment)


I was rbed yes, but aside from that why do you want to lynch me? I think my arguments out before I post them, I dont get in insult wars with other townies, I go through filters thoroughly before I take a stance on someone and you can see all that in my history. I opt for quality over quantity and I've produced more with five posts than most people have with twenty. Which is pretty much how I've played as town in games past.

I have stuck my neck out and presented unpopular cases not because I'm yolo red, but because I genuinely want to lynch scum. I have also played entirely transparent and have given town plenty to work with, both on those I consider scummy and myself, which is saying something considering that I didnt even know I was playing this game for two days.

You've done just the same and then some, as a result I and several others have placed our faith in you. You dont have to listen to everything I say, but after I I've delivered to you Mattchews red razor mouse of doom, do have a little bit of that faith in me, given my existing contributions and upcoming accolades(matt slayer!) I dont deserve to have the whims of the trilaner be all that separates me from the noose.


This is absurd. "Sticking out your neck" for posting reads? And what the hell is an unpopular case? I've never heard of that before. In fact, I have not an inkling of what you are trying to say in that entire middle paragraph. Quality over quantity is content, not post length.

Can you reiterate why I'm scum again? I seem to have forgotten outside of "doesn't post" and "doesn't give reads".


Im pretty much betting everything on this Matt lynch, if it fails, I am almost entirely to blame and I expect my head to roll shortly after his. Thats called sticking your neck out, fortunately its not no going to fail, I am almost entirely sure Matts scum. Also whats an unpopular case? A case that is not widely held in esteem, prior to my initial case against him, nobody was attacking him. I took a risk going after someone that was not considered scum by town before I made my case. Which was a much more difficult avenue to pursue rather than continuously flip flopping on side sprang... and one I pursued only because thats exactly what I need to do as town to ensure we lynch scum. Also if you dont understand what I'm saying, sorry? I try my best to be transparent, but I've had scum write "I dont know what this guy is saying" as an argument against me before, so forgive me if I dont find your ignorance entirely sincere, I have known you to play dumb before.


Who cares whats going to happen to you. You took a risk in scum hunting? You certainly are if you are scum. No one has defended mattchew, so everything you said is really unnecessary if you are intent on him being mafia. Thanks for telling us your motives though. I also like how you are making up a lot of non-sense about me flip-flopping on SS. Please continue to make up non-sense if that is your thing.

As for why your scum.

Can you reiterate why I'm scum again? I seem to have forgotten outside of "doesn't post" and "doesn't give reads".


The bolded is just not true, you do post, it's just those posts are worthless, your only job as town is to find scum and it is through reads and subsequent red flips you prove your towniness. You dont do that, you just defend yourself and offer half assed reads and when people call you out on that you scream "im just the replacement guys!" . After Mattchew flips red, I'll go into detail against you, but for now just stand back and watch your buddy get roasted, cause I'm really getting tired of your terrible scum play.


How about you go into detail now. You are prepared to insult my play, but I think that is ill-founded. I think my scum play is pretty adequate, and yours is transparent! And mattchew is probably scum by the nature of your case and how you hope it's going to make you look. For being scum you sure do shed light on all the wrong things.


Hey, you asked me what stuck my neck out means, and I explained, I originally only mentioned it cause I felt it was dumb that rob felt the only reason im not scum is cause of my role block claim, when here I am making a huge yolo case, a pretty dumb move for scum to do if they want to avoid getting lynched. And I never asked people to care about me, please dont twist my words into obscene shapes. Oh and for the record Mattchew has done nothing to deserve defending, and yet that hasn't stopped Rob Vivax and pretty much you from doing just that, he hasn't been defended is a blatant lie. Also read these two for me.

Show nested quote +
mordanis is chill, other two not so much. What about the sprangside? I feel good about him being scum


Show nested quote +
Alright, I've determined that sidesprang is fairly transparent. I can explain why, but I'd rather have him post for me to analyze. I'm not the greatest at meta reads, but the 'nervous' post mattchew brought up was pretty typical of the [red]sidesprang/red] I have studied.


Im sorry, but that sure does look like a flip flop to me, and side was literally the closest thing you've had to a scum suspect since you got shiapi lynched. You know, until you jumped on me solely cause I called you scum, kinda like Mattchew did.

Also wtf is this?

Show nested quote +
And mattchew is probably scum by the nature of your case and how you hope it's going to make you look


Wow, are you actually accusing me of starting a bus on a team mate as scum? God your desperate. Yeah I'm not seeing that adequate scum play of yours, oh and the reason you find my play transparent is because I'm town / : but you already knew that of course.

Yeah, I wouldn't mind voting Bum if everyone still feels like waiting for Matt to not show up.


Reads to me like scum/scum bussing - bullshit. But still gotta take a closer look at bum individually.
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 21 2014 16:39 GMT
#1645
Like, didn't it turn out that gum misread something in those two posts? And that with the previous mindset that bum was so town, from town to that weird exaggerated aggression.
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 21 2014 16:42 GMT
#1646
On February 22 2014 01:36 IAmRobik wrote:
The ONLY reason I don't think that gum is scum is because of the RB claim. Otherwise, I'm in 100% agreement with you regarding your post. And I think I brought this up earlier...if not, I was definitely thinking it.


Can you explain to me how a roleblock claim is alignment indicative in front of so much strong evidence?
Kush and Vivax
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 21 2014 16:43 GMT
#1647
No one else claimed to be roleblocked. I would consider lynching him at some point closer to mylo/lylo, but not yet. Your post was good though vivax420
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 21 2014 16:49 GMT
#1648
On February 22 2014 01:43 IAmRobik wrote:
No one else claimed to be roleblocked. I would consider lynching him at some point closer to mylo/lylo, but not yet. Your post was good though vivax420


I withheld roleblocks in the past as scum and claimed them myself. It should be treated as perfectly nay-saying, null, nada.
Kush and Vivax
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 21 2014 16:52 GMT
#1649
They don't HAVE to RB anyone?
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 21 2014 16:53 GMT
#1650
IDK...I think that's silly at this point in the game. If I'm maf and have a RB, I'd RB the shit out of people...especially with a cop in the game.

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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 21 2014 16:54 GMT
#1651
On February 22 2014 01:52 IAmRobik wrote:
They don't HAVE to RB anyone?


No, you forget to send in the action, it doesn't happen.
Did you think the host would roll a random one if they didn't?

Besides, they could still target each other in your version.
Kush and Vivax
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 21 2014 16:58 GMT
#1652
Vivax your case rules, gumshoe is mafia as fuck
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 21 2014 16:58 GMT
#1653
Lynch him after me
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 21 2014 17:00 GMT
#1654
On February 22 2014 01:58 Mattchew wrote:
Vivax your case rules, gumshoe is mafia as fuck

lulz you fucker.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 21 2014 17:04 GMT
#1655
While I have you here Chew, I'll be in DC the following weekend 28-2. You gonna have some free time? I can message you my number on skype.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 21 2014 17:06 GMT
#1656
OK Mattchew isn't gonna get modkilled and he'd not even trying to not get lynched. Is there something else we're waiting for?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 21 2014 17:08 GMT
#1657
I do think you're town Kush/Vivax, but I am pretty doubtful that Mattchew would still be alive at this point if he was town.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 21 2014 17:11 GMT
#1658
On February 22 2014 01:18 VIVAX420 wrote:
NOT WAITING FOR MATT TO GET MODKILLED IS ANTI TOWN AS FUCK.
You think this is against the spirit is iml? Fuck iml this is playing to your wincon. That supersedes everything else.


When did i say it was anti town? I just think it's stupid, were not playing iml, were playing mafia. The goal in which is to lynch scum, not wait till the host is willing to hold our hands and sing us to sleep. We are playing a game of deduction, not engaging in national level politics, the goal is to deduce and have fun, wincon does not supersede everything, enjoyment does and I cant imagine anyones really enjoying this standstill. If you honestly wanna play this way, and truly believe that this is the best way to win this game then I probably wont wanna play with you again and I definitely wont be doing Iml anymore.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 21 2014 17:12 GMT
#1659
On February 22 2014 01:58 Mattchew wrote:
Vivax your case rules, gumshoe is mafia as fuck


Wow... opportunist much XD
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 21 2014 17:12 GMT
#1660
Idk I think I'd rather lynch Roundabound over Gumshoe.
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