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marv's getting on a roll doing vote counts VOTE COUNT:
Mattchew (4): JarJarDrinks, Grackaroni, gumshoe, roundabound, Grackaroni, JarJarDrinks, IAmRobik
gumshoe (1): roundabound, IAmRobik, sidesprang,
bumatlarge (1): Mordanis
sidesprang (1): JarJarDrinks, bumatlarge, IAmRobik
JarJarDrinks (0): Grackaroni
With 10 players alive it takes 6 votes to lynch. Only votes in the Voting Thread will be counted!
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On February 17 2014 01:11 gumshoe wrote:
Helop again, prior to my" train wreck " post I had a pretty generic catchup one in the works. Didn't have much to contribute in there except for a scum read on Mattchew, Who I feel has played pretty loosely and I still think is likely scum. I consider Mocsta a pretty serious player , so when he scum claims I tend to bilieve it, it was in fact a slow game, and I could easily see him getting fed up with a newb scum team, so I ran away with the idea and provided my own reads based off what I considered a likely fact instead of just repeating what other players have already said( been a slow game) If Mocsta is actually town, he's done something extremely cruel to his other head, especially considering how much work rayns put into the game. That said, if we're intent on not lynching him then I'm just going to ignore mocstas posts going forward, and I'll just consider Rayn as round, because I have no idea what Moc wants out of this game( clearly not to win) and if we're not lynching him then there's nothing to be done about a player whose not playing to his win con. As for side, again I don't read him as scummy, he's so brazenly bad ) : like he's proud of it, I can't justify his behaviour if he's scum, he's doing effectively nothing to upset town or prevent his own lynch.
Rob, any questions for me? Do you think Matt and Shias could be scum together?
I will agree this is odd from Gumshoe. It looks like he still thinks Roundabound will flip scum, but he doesn't really feel that it's worth pursuing/talking about since town isn't interested in lynching him.
At the same time he mentioned something else before about taking a risk of putting out an unpopular case and this might just be Gumshoe's mindset as town. BUT that in itself is a pretty scummy way of thinking. My conclusion: I'll just sheep w/e VIVAX420 does because I have no idea what the fuck is going on.
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On February 22 2014 01:32 VIVAX420 wrote:Yea comes from messing around with multiple tabs in the voting thread  and whatnot This is just in case that matt flips town, bolded the players I find relevant. + Show Spoiler +On February 17 2014 23:21 Ange777 wrote:FINAL VOTE COUNT: thrawn2112 (0): IAmRobikVIVAX420 (0): thrawn2112, Grackaroni, ShiaoPi IAmRobik (0): roundabound DoNotPanic! (0): roundaboundGrackaroni (1): IAmRobik, JarJarDrinkssidesprang (2): roundabound, VIVAX420, Grackaroni, roundabound, JarJarDrinks ShiaoPi (7): bumatlarge, VIVAX420, Mattchew, roundabound, sidesprang, thrawn2112, VIVAX420, Mattchew, bumatlarge, thrawn2112, sidesprang, gumshoe, roundaboundQuantumPope (1): ShiaoPi, sidesprangroundabound (0): roundabound, sidesprang, Mattchew, bumatlarge, gumshoebumatlarge (0): roundaboundMordanis (0): roundabound, thrawn2112
ShiaoPi, the Progamer has been lynched. + Show Spoiler +Progamer (Vanilla Townie): You're one of the best players of your era. You've fought your way here, to the finals of the GOM Special League Season II! Your favorite things are Farming and long walks on the beach. You are a VT. Find and destroy the cheesers.
It is now Night 1. You have until Tuesday, Feb 18 2:21pm GMT (GMT+00:00) to send your nightactions to the host and all co-hosts! You may post during night. On February 22 2014 00:21 marvellosity wrote:VOTE COUNT: Mattchew (5): JarJarDrinks, Grackaroni, gumshoe, roundabound, Grackaroni, JarJarDrinks, IAmRobik gumshoe (1): roundabound, IAmRobik, sidesprang, bumatlarge (1): Mordanis sidesprang (1): JarJarDrinks, bumatlarge, IAmRobikJarJarDrinks (0): GrackaroniWith 10 players alive it takes 6 votes to lynch. Only votes in the Voting Thread will be counted! Atm I'm thinking gum could be scum. Reasons: First: Show nested quote +On February 16 2014 17:20 gumshoe wrote:
Haro! So I've pretty much blitzed through the thread, but obviously the most recent event eclipses everything that came before it so I've reconfigured most of my reads in light of it. The only reason I can see Moc quitting like he has is if he feels like his scum team has completely failed him, which he straight up acknowledges in the case of Rayn. Gives me the sense that most of his scum team are incompetent and already under pressure. I also dont think hed reveal like this if there were one or two members of his team on at his time of confession, which would be a bit of a dick move, this tentatively clears Grack( who I had pinged as null) thrawn(his posting aggravates me a smidge just like in the last serius game we played, so probs town) and bum, all of whom had decent thread presence and posted within a couple hours of mocstas confession. Bum I especially consider townie because of how seemingly sincere hes been in his attempts to push discussion, case in point this post glows green to my eyes.
"It seems like you have a stronger read on Vivax then you do QuantomPope. Can you respond to what he has said. I would appreciate if you two(three?) would hash out what you think of each other. I'm in the same boat with your scum list, but because you don't go into much detail, I can't benefit from what you think!"
An attempt at getting a contribution out of a player whose likely to be lynched comes off as a weird scum play, unless that scum player is totally confident that the townie will provide misinformation. Something I dont think a scum bum would count on.
Vivax also posted within range of the confession, but even disregarding that I honestly cant believe Mocsta would quit like this if he had Vivax on his team. Same reasoning applies to rob.
Which leaves a pool of six within which lies the last two scum.
1:Shiapi: Has done extremely little for town, that much hasnt changed, Round hasnt really said much on him all game long, usually deflecting questions or arguments against him onto someone else, only once he became the clear lynch did Moc/rayn hop on the wagon faithfully. A shiapi scum partner would def fit the bad scum team narrative.
2:Mattchew: Posts a bunch of one liners, mostly comments on others reads, has a relative amount of heat on him, thread presence low to medium. I dont think hes scum with shiapi unless shiao called his mother a goat or something. Although that would explain Mocs exasperation with his team, meh.
3: Quantom Pope: Extremely low content, could definitely see Mocsta getting pissed about being with this guy.
4:Mordanis: His early posts look like they have some actual, albiet befuddled, thought to them but his targets are odd, and bieng reasonable more often than not does not translate to bieng townie. He goes after Rob and Vivax, two relatively green players at the time, strange choices even if you take into account the volatile nature of any games start. Another odd thing is Rounds hard defense of him.
"I think Mordanis has about the best posts in thread. Yes they are worded a bit awkwardly and idk what that means. He can answer for himself about that. The "brb gonna go write a wall of text case against everyone" is an obvious joke and everyone should be able to realise it.."
at the time Mordanis had done a decent amount of contribution, but it's odd just how far Round sticks his neck out for him, going so far as to call his posts the best thread... Not even sure if Rayn's the kinda player to do that if they were buddies. Could just as well be post flip posturing on a possible lynch target, a motive backed up by Rayns willingness to change his stance on Mord as scum got more desperate for a lynch. Definitely a frustrating scum partner to have, so Mord does fit the terrible scum team theory.
5: Sidesprang: Not much of a contributor, but reads townie to me . Him asking for my replacement seems like a pretty unscummy thing to do, scum would want my slot to stay inactive as long as possible, yet here he is pretty much begging for a real contributor. Also his asking for a townie certificate... Considering the dark green and bloody history of Coag's accursed emblem, seems pretty brazen. Oh and his first vote, although a light hearted one, was on Mocsta... yeah maybe hes scum? Extremely reckless if thats the case, doesn't ultimately read red to me.
6: Jar Jar: least scummy of the bunch, has his own thoughts, pushes his own reads, generally helps town, I can elaborate if anyone likes but if you read through his filter you can see that although sherlock he aint, hes certainly doing more for town than anyone else on this list,(admittedly not saying much.)
Thats all for now, if anyone has any questions, I'll answer them tomorrow, it's been a long day, gl and good night town.
Oh and regardless of all this, no reason to not vote round. Hurray for free lynch! + gum is sure that mocstas fakeclaim was real, builds all his cases around that theory (weak scumteam) + He says "it leaves a pool of six in which lies scum", but his last two reads are townreads! He's just opening himself up to lynching people that simply are at risk of getting lynched by some townies, not people he really reads as scummy. Else why would he read two people as town in a list of people he should find scummy. After Mocsta's fake?claim shenanigans are over he posts this: Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 01:11 gumshoe wrote:
Helop again, prior to my" train wreck " post I had a pretty generic catchup one in the works. Didn't have much to contribute in there except for a scum read on Mattchew, Who I feel has played pretty loosely and I still think is likely scum. I consider Mocsta a pretty serious player , so when he scum claims I tend to bilieve it, it was in fact a slow game, and I could easily see him getting fed up with a newb scum team, so I ran away with the idea and provided my own reads based off what I considered a likely fact instead of just repeating what other players have already said( been a slow game) If Mocsta is actually town, he's done something extremely cruel to his other head, especially considering how much work rayns put into the game. That said, if we're intent on not lynching him then I'm just going to ignore mocstas posts going forward, and I'll just consider Rayn as round, because I have no idea what Moc wants out of this game( clearly not to win) and if we're not lynching him then there's nothing to be done about a player whose not playing to his win con. As for side, again I don't read him as scummy, he's so brazenly bad ) : like he's proud of it, I can't justify his behaviour if he's scum, he's doing effectively nothing to upset town or prevent his own lynch.
Rob, any questions for me? Do you think Matt and Shias could be scum together? A post that reeks of overjustification for all his set of reads.Moreover, he doesn't update his scumreads upon getting the information. He only talks about the Mocasta shit. Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 22:07 gumshoe wrote:
While I have my reservations about killing side( he enjoys his predicament a bit too much to be scum, reminds me of how I act when I'm about to get lynched for lurking as town,) as I mentioned before I have no issue killing shiapi, he's serious but useless at the same time, it feels like he's actually under pressure. + Quick reason to jump on ShiaoPi. He just had to justify his reads being based on a fakeclaim, but ShiaoPi being part of them didn't change anything. Why say that your old reads are obsolete cause the claim was fake and then still stick to them (and use them on the go for a townie lynch) And then boom Other opinions encouraged.
The opening post: Mocsta's claim set my imagination on fire, I'ts happened to me before in other games that I can point out if you like. I took it at face value because I didnt think Mocsta would joke about something like that. I gave it some thought though and realized that there was no reason for him to claim as town or scum. Win con supersedes all, your words not mine, and that confession fits no win condition, therefore I consider it and the rest of Moc's testimony inadmissible, which is fine because Rayn is pretty readable and fairly townie.
Else why would he read two people as town in a list of people he should find scummy.
I included everyone who hadnt posted in range of Moc's confession, I thought at the time Moc wouldnt confess if his buddies were active, that list is comprised of people who fit the Moc theory of inactivity it nothing to do with creating a pool of victims -_-, they are ordered from scumiest to towniest, I dont see your point.
A post that reeks of overjustification for all his set of reads.Moreover, he doesn't update his scumreads upon getting the information. He only talks about the Mocasta shit.
At the time I still considred Moc scum so what new info?
+ Quick reason to jump on ShiaoPi. He just had to justify his reads being based on a fakeclaim, but ShiaoPi being part of them didn't change anything.
Why say that your old reads are obsolete cause the claim was fake and then still stick to them (and use them on the go for a townie lynch)
As I said, I still considred Moc scum at that time, it was the rest of town who was unwilling to lynch him, the shiapi flip played a part in me dropping that read as well, and I had already covered my suspicion of him (he was at the top of my list).
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So when you find someone scummy like Mocsta you decide to ignore his posts and proclaim to only read his more townie half?
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On February 22 2014 02:25 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 01:11 gumshoe wrote:
Helop again, prior to my" train wreck " post I had a pretty generic catchup one in the works. Didn't have much to contribute in there except for a scum read on Mattchew, Who I feel has played pretty loosely and I still think is likely scum. I consider Mocsta a pretty serious player , so when he scum claims I tend to bilieve it, it was in fact a slow game, and I could easily see him getting fed up with a newb scum team, so I ran away with the idea and provided my own reads based off what I considered a likely fact instead of just repeating what other players have already said( been a slow game) If Mocsta is actually town, he's done something extremely cruel to his other head, especially considering how much work rayns put into the game. That said, if we're intent on not lynching him then I'm just going to ignore mocstas posts going forward, and I'll just consider Rayn as round, because I have no idea what Moc wants out of this game( clearly not to win) and if we're not lynching him then there's nothing to be done about a player whose not playing to his win con. As for side, again I don't read him as scummy, he's so brazenly bad ) : like he's proud of it, I can't justify his behaviour if he's scum, he's doing effectively nothing to upset town or prevent his own lynch.
Rob, any questions for me? Do you think Matt and Shias could be scum together? I will agree this is odd from Gumshoe. It looks like he still thinks Roundabound will flip scum, but he doesn't really feel that it's worth pursuing/talking about since town isn't interested in lynching him. At the same time he mentioned something else before about taking a risk of putting out an unpopular case and this might just be Gumshoe's mindset as town. BUT that in itself is a pretty scummy way of thinking. My conclusion: I'll just sheep w/e VIVAX420 does because I have no idea what the fuck is going on.
My mindset as town is to get mislynched day 1 or two : P
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On February 22 2014 02:34 VIVAX420 wrote:
So when you find someone scummy like Mocsta you decide to ignore his posts and proclaim to only read his more townie half?
If his posts dont make sense from either perspective, then why would I bother reading him when his other half is far more serius about the game? Would you ever scum claim while under zero pressure?
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On February 22 2014 02:37 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 02:25 Grackaroni wrote:On February 17 2014 01:11 gumshoe wrote:
Helop again, prior to my" train wreck " post I had a pretty generic catchup one in the works. Didn't have much to contribute in there except for a scum read on Mattchew, Who I feel has played pretty loosely and I still think is likely scum. I consider Mocsta a pretty serious player , so when he scum claims I tend to bilieve it, it was in fact a slow game, and I could easily see him getting fed up with a newb scum team, so I ran away with the idea and provided my own reads based off what I considered a likely fact instead of just repeating what other players have already said( been a slow game) If Mocsta is actually town, he's done something extremely cruel to his other head, especially considering how much work rayns put into the game. That said, if we're intent on not lynching him then I'm just going to ignore mocstas posts going forward, and I'll just consider Rayn as round, because I have no idea what Moc wants out of this game( clearly not to win) and if we're not lynching him then there's nothing to be done about a player whose not playing to his win con. As for side, again I don't read him as scummy, he's so brazenly bad ) : like he's proud of it, I can't justify his behaviour if he's scum, he's doing effectively nothing to upset town or prevent his own lynch.
Rob, any questions for me? Do you think Matt and Shias could be scum together? I will agree this is odd from Gumshoe. It looks like he still thinks Roundabound will flip scum, but he doesn't really feel that it's worth pursuing/talking about since town isn't interested in lynching him. At the same time he mentioned something else before about taking a risk of putting out an unpopular case and this might just be Gumshoe's mindset as town. BUT that in itself is a pretty scummy way of thinking. My conclusion: I'll just sheep w/e VIVAX420 does because I have no idea what the fuck is going on. My mindset as town is to get mislynched day 1 or two : P
That's what I am considering lol (except it would be you compensating for getting mislynched day1/2 a lot and having a mindset as town of being more concerned with avoiding the lynch then attacking scum)
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i have a pretty funny quote from mocsta that might implicate gumshoe, hold on
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On February 19 2014 10:03 roundabound wrote:
A thought I am jotting down for consideration with more flips
Why not RB Thrawn + shoot Thrawn? Obviously this is conjecture, but I am working with a theory that the GF exists ==> cop + doctor exist and scum went for a double blue hit.
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On February 22 2014 02:40 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 02:37 gumshoe wrote:On February 22 2014 02:25 Grackaroni wrote:On February 17 2014 01:11 gumshoe wrote:
Helop again, prior to my" train wreck " post I had a pretty generic catchup one in the works. Didn't have much to contribute in there except for a scum read on Mattchew, Who I feel has played pretty loosely and I still think is likely scum. I consider Mocsta a pretty serious player , so when he scum claims I tend to bilieve it, it was in fact a slow game, and I could easily see him getting fed up with a newb scum team, so I ran away with the idea and provided my own reads based off what I considered a likely fact instead of just repeating what other players have already said( been a slow game) If Mocsta is actually town, he's done something extremely cruel to his other head, especially considering how much work rayns put into the game. That said, if we're intent on not lynching him then I'm just going to ignore mocstas posts going forward, and I'll just consider Rayn as round, because I have no idea what Moc wants out of this game( clearly not to win) and if we're not lynching him then there's nothing to be done about a player whose not playing to his win con. As for side, again I don't read him as scummy, he's so brazenly bad ) : like he's proud of it, I can't justify his behaviour if he's scum, he's doing effectively nothing to upset town or prevent his own lynch.
Rob, any questions for me? Do you think Matt and Shias could be scum together? I will agree this is odd from Gumshoe. It looks like he still thinks Roundabound will flip scum, but he doesn't really feel that it's worth pursuing/talking about since town isn't interested in lynching him. At the same time he mentioned something else before about taking a risk of putting out an unpopular case and this might just be Gumshoe's mindset as town. BUT that in itself is a pretty scummy way of thinking. My conclusion: I'll just sheep w/e VIVAX420 does because I have no idea what the fuck is going on. My mindset as town is to get mislynched day 1 or two : P That's what I am considering lol (except it would be you compensating for getting mislynched day1/2 a lot and having a mindset as town of being more concerned with avoiding the lynch then attacking scum)
I did nothing but attack scum until Vivax raised a case against me, which is pretty much what I do every game that I dont uber lurk. I do play and think a bit "odd" and players both green and red usually pass that behaviour off as scummy. If you Vivax and everyone else start finding "unexplainable" motives here and there(as one enthuastic townie once said about my posts) theres not much I can do but sincerely ask you to reconsider ) : I'm not scum and from my view point, however skewed it might be, I've communicated that through my actions. I assure you I have a fantastic lurker meta to fall back on should I ever roll red, but thats not where I'm at this game, and it'll piss me off to no end if I get mislynched and am forced to imagine Matt's laughter roll across the vaulted ceilings of his super secret scum layer.
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thrawn was an attempted blue snipe.
so it makes sense to rb him and shoot him.
then scum can claim that night's rb and look hella townie to everyone.
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On February 22 2014 02:59 VIVAX420 wrote:
thrawn was an attempted blue snipe.
so it makes sense to rb him and shoot him.
then scum can claim that night's rb and look hella townie to everyone.
Role blocking him does nothing if your shooting him 0_0 doc cant heal himself, why would you not roleblock someone else to remove any chance of him being healed by a doc, this makes no sense T_T.
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The only advantage there is if mafia had some reason to believe that he was cop and he gets healed. (Which is unlikely)
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I don't really know why people keep mentioning him as a blue snipe really; It seemed like a pretty straight forward kill.
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if he is the doc you rb him to stop the save.. oh wait tha tmakes no sense nvm
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so what the fuck did mocsta even mean by that quote
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On February 22 2014 03:18 VIVAX420 wrote:
so what the fuck did mocsta even mean by that quote
Who the fuck knows, Mocsta's high this game / :
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WTF, Mattchew is still alive?
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Yeah can we just kill Mattchew? His filter is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen for 9 days worth of play time and it's coming from somebody that plays on here frequently. (rather than somebody who just wanted to try it out and got bored and quit posting)
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On February 22 2014 03:20 JarJarDrinks wrote:
WTF, Mattchew is still alive?
Yeah, who are your guesses for other two scummers?
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