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On February 19 2014 10:03 roundabound wrote:Some musings as I read the thread: ThrawnNot a bad NK selection. He was unanimously considered as town, and lurked enough that he could be a blue snipe as well. Reads wise, he wasnt advocating anyone with a high degree of certainty towards the end; unless you count as a post worth NK'n over.
Are you kidding me? He probably got killed because he is one of the high profile players in this game alongside your hydra and vivax. Nobody's reads this game have really differed too much - lots of attacks on the low contributors.
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I should actually add Kush. I have a lot of respect for Kush's reads over the last few games, but he's always ignored because he plays like me.
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REAL STORY OF N1:
rob was underestimated
roundabout was scum
vivax420 was assumed protected
mocsta: how mad are you about getting pwned once again despite your try hard?
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On February 19 2014 07:07 Mordanis wrote:More on DNP/bum Both were primarily focused on Shiao, and aside from that tidbit I'd say DNP is null/town read bum, however, is very scummy. Aside from the post I talked about earlier, he's mostly just given fairly bland policy. E.G + Show Spoiler +On February 15 2014 05:12 bumatlarge wrote:
Hi
Gonna read the thread but two things
1) being apathetic to who are the hydras helps to read them. I've played with and against hydras, and it's a lot harder for them as scum then as town. Town hydras tend to not focus on interactions and have a more aloof sense of the game. Good scum hydras attempt to do the same, but where it gets funny is when they need to defend themselves. Then they let you know who's doing the talking lol
2) if a blue role needs to claim, just say blue, especially I you are boxer. This happened last game with a few people claiming boxers when I was a cop, and it kinda narrowed how open my claim would be. I would just keep quiet and do the setup math in your head until later. On February 15 2014 15:53 bumatlarge wrote:
How are you both so certain this early into the game that mafia don't have a "good player" on their team. Give me a single good reason why going slow isn't better. Yall ignorant.
Don't defend an awful line. On February 15 2014 16:49 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 16:24 VIVAX420 wrote:On February 15 2014 15:53 bumatlarge wrote:
How are you both so certain this early into the game that mafia don't have a "good player" on their team. Give me a single good reason why going slow isn't better. Yall ignorant.
Don't defend an awful line. I think there are pros and cons to going slow. A lot of people have discussed this. I would like to lynch shaopi now, mostly because I'm bored. I don't like IML. I don't see the cons, but talking about feels like a waste. I don't like IML as town. As mafia it's great! On February 16 2014 02:35 bumatlarge wrote:
That said, I'm still on the go slow plan. Gumshoe/replace isn't here, and until then we can afford to wait. On February 16 2014 09:21 bumatlarge wrote:
I'm cautious about how many people are jumping on Shiao. Even if I think he's the scummiest I've come across in the thread, the reasons aren't all that strong. Sure he has little content and doesn't seem to be improving them, but day 1 townies do this.
Mattchew, I think this is what you usually do, but can you give a little more detail to who you are accusing? I wouldn't insult the game of mafia by calling them reads. You seem "ok with lynching X" about all of the time. The only thing I've liked about what you said so far is about sidespring. Do you have more on every other player in the game you've mentioned? On February 16 2014 09:32 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 22:03 ShiaoPi wrote:some short summary to work with: townreads: ShiaoPi - most obv town ever (yay!) DNP/Bumatlarge - leaning town roundabound - pretty surely in town scummy guys: quantumpope - feels like best lynch today mattchew - nonfactor and nothing to show for mordanis - see above vivax - this one is more tricky. I did not like the entrance and the half assed shit on thrawn. he is doing the same shit to me. Quoting not my last scumgame and also a large one instead of a mini/smaller sized. just fyi that is the first post from my last scumgame: On June 09 2013 13:42 ShiaoPi wrote:
sooo....anybody here? also would you in the interest of all please start signing your goddamn posts? kush and vivax are at least in my opinion totally different players and it makes a shitton of difference who is posting. Makes me feel like you are purposely doing it to confuse us. rest is pretty much nullish. see you later (yea I am a lazy guy) I hope you know this post is why people are voting you. Put it this way, you are making it really easy for mafia to vote you, and town won't be able to tell. QuantomPope seems to be fitting his meta that he had in the LSB Restart game, which lead him to be shot by a vig. He was a boon to my mafia team, and gave us a strong edge just because of how much a single misread town player trips up town from figuring the game out. You can't really accuse people for calling out bad play as town, so it keeps the game from developing which is ideal for mafia. You are currently in that boat. It is very easy to avoid getting lynched day 1 as long as you remain active and open. Look at Robot, I'm not a big fan of how he is approaching the game, but I would be surprised if he flips scum this game. It seems like you have a stronger read on Vivax then you do QuantomPope. Can you respond to what he has said. I would appreciate if you two(three?) would hash out what you think of each other. I'm in the same boat with your scum list, but because you don't go into much detail, I can't benefit from what you think! Lazy people get lynched dude  I know this first-hand. *Editor's interpretation: Hey, I think you seem like town, but you are an easy candidate for lynch, so we are going to lynch you And there's plenty more, so please read through bum's filter. In general, bum has come into the thread after ~3 days and completely failed to bring a fresh perspective. He has also done essentially no scumhunting aside from going after Round for claiming scum. He voted Shiao early, and then seemed to talk to Shiao as town, without any effort to find any scum. ## vote bumatlarge
Let's chat mord. I probably did get too hung up on Round, but I did everything I could to get a better understanding of ShiaoPi's play this game. No one questioned his views from a town standpoint, and i think you can see why I was trying to stall the lynch on him by the other post you call me scummy for. Nothing I did indicated I knew anything about ShiaoPi's alignment, and I have him every opportunity to explain himself. I'll take the blame for lynching a townie, but what ou are looking for in my posts require assumptions about my alignment. Look at my reasoning from a town viewpoint, and I can guarentee it makes sense.
I'll answer anything I missed if you want. I'm going to try to figure out Matthew, but it may take me some time to do him justice. I suggest going slow again this cycle.
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On February 19 2014 10:15 Grackaroni wrote:
I should actually add Kush. I have a lot of respect for Kush's reads over the last few games, but he's always ignored because he plays like me.
R u going to vote us or continue throwing toothless barbs
~moc
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Can some of you unvote Mattchew. Maj is 6 and we're at 4 already. I don't think he's really posted today and I'd like to hear more from other people before we lynch. Thanks.
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Was meant to quote the kush post lil
~moc
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On February 19 2014 07:32 VIVAX420 wrote:Show nested quote +I'm cautious about how many people are jumping on Shiao. Even if I think he's the scummiest I've come across in the thread, the reasons aren't all that strong. Sure he has little content and doesn't seem to be improving them, but day 1 townies do this.
I don't get how you can call a guy the scummiest and then not mention a single reason for it, instead doing the opposite. Bum, can you clarify?
I always do this and it always baffles people. Don't you think it helps to try to understand what people do from the opposite of what you read them as? I already gave pretty generic reasons for why I was voting him. I probably wouldn't have lynches him if he responded to my questions towards him. Instead he did nothing. He dug his own grave
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- As a side note I think that Mordanis is town. I like the fact that he is pushing his own opinion on Bum even though the thread consensus seems to be strongly leaning towards Bum being town. I think if he rolled scum he would follow thread sentiment more closely in this town.
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On February 19 2014 10:31 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 10:15 Grackaroni wrote:
I should actually add Kush. I have a lot of respect for Kush's reads over the last few games, but he's always ignored because he plays like me. R u going to vote us or continue throwing toothless barbs ~moc
The only person I see throwing "toothless barbs" is you. I didn't post, "Hey I bet Thrawn got killed because the Rayn/Moc hydra is scum"
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@Round: we would have taken your mord analysis more seriously if you stopped being a dick 
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my barbs are only toothless on the surface.
honestly more rereading is necessary to be sure about round. I was just doing preliminary reaction testing on them and THEY FAILED.
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The Kushm4sta comment had nothing to do with his read of you this game. As a habit I left out Kushm4sta - because Kushm4sta. But that's not really fair because he played really well in the restart game.
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woh yeah. i didn't even realize mattchew was so close. unvote immediately please!!! this day should not be rushed.
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On February 19 2014 10:36 VIVAX420 wrote:
my barbs are only toothless on the surface.
honestly more rereading is necessary to be sure about round. I was just doing preliminary reaction testing on them and THEY FAILED.
No kush
You do this every game and I grow tired of it.
Vote or fuck off because all you are doing now is distracting from the Matthew lynch.
~moc
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grack if you respect my opinion at all, and you should because we are very alike, you should unvote mattchew. yeah he doesn;t look super townie but he never does. he is lynch bait.
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On February 19 2014 10:38 IAmRobik wrote:
PLEASE UNVOTE!
Are you suggesting you disagree with the case put forth?
~moc
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where is teh case put forth?
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On February 19 2014 10:43 VIVAX420 wrote:
grack if you respect my opinion at all, and you should because we are very alike, you should unvote mattchew. yeah he doesn;t look super townie but he never does. he is lynch bait.
Lynch bait suggests town. But u say he doesn't look townie
What is it.
Is he lynch bait, null or scum
~moc
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