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roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 18 2014 21:33 GMT
#1221
I have not personally attacked MAttchew, where do you get that illusion?

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 18 2014 21:33 GMT
#1222
Vivax when you are here can you please scumhunt with me?

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 18 2014 21:34 GMT
#1223
On February 17 2014 01:42 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 01:39 roundabound wrote:
Actually a serious question Mattchew; Do you even read what people's posts say and do you think why do they say what they do?

~rayn

i have my way of getting reads, you have yours, if you want to insult my reads you better be damn sure yours are correct

This one.
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 18 2014 21:36 GMT
#1224
On February 19 2014 06:33 roundabound wrote:
Vivax when you are here can you please scumhunt with me?

~rayn

ya sure thing.
rayn scum.

-vivax
Kush and Vivax
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 18 2014 21:36 GMT
#1225
On February 19 2014 06:36 VIVAX420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 06:33 roundabound wrote:
Vivax when you are here can you please scumhunt with me?

~rayn

ya sure thing.
rayn scum.

-vivax

lulz you forgot the caps.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 18 2014 21:37 GMT
#1226
If Rayn is scum I guarantee you Mattchew will also be scum.
Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
February 18 2014 21:39 GMT
#1227
On February 19 2014 03:16 IAmRobik wrote:
Well that's pretty clear.

roundabound = town

Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 17:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
stop voting roundabound



thrawn = mafia

Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 17:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
On February 16 2014 17:33 bumatlarge wrote:
On February 16 2014 17:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
someone who is under no suspicion asks to be lynched and you think it's a good idea to indulge them? really?


Their is a big difference in asking to be lynched and claiming scum. I would consider asking to be lynched a null tell because it's TL mafia, but you can't say "I'm scum claiming" and not hinting at a joke whatsoever. Don't get me wrong, Rayn likes to be stupid to prove a point in dramatic ways, but I doubt they went over what mocsta just said as idle lynch bait.


I'm scum claiming


My (IAmRobik) own conclusion from Thrawn's pg 3 filter: bum probably scum

Could you explain why? I agree, but I'd like to hear why you think bum is scum.
I love the smell of napalm in the morning... it smells like... victory. -_^ Favorite SC2 match ->Liquid`HerO vs. SlayerS CranK g.1 @MLG Summer Championship
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 18 2014 21:39 GMT
#1228
@rob the seal doesn't confirm grack. i think he's town but not because of the seal. not giving reasons so dont ask
Kush and Vivax
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 18 2014 21:43 GMT
#1229
On February 19 2014 06:39 Mordanis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 03:16 IAmRobik wrote:
Well that's pretty clear.

roundabound = town

On February 16 2014 17:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
stop voting roundabound



thrawn = mafia

On February 16 2014 17:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
On February 16 2014 17:33 bumatlarge wrote:
On February 16 2014 17:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
someone who is under no suspicion asks to be lynched and you think it's a good idea to indulge them? really?


Their is a big difference in asking to be lynched and claiming scum. I would consider asking to be lynched a null tell because it's TL mafia, but you can't say "I'm scum claiming" and not hinting at a joke whatsoever. Don't get me wrong, Rayn likes to be stupid to prove a point in dramatic ways, but I doubt they went over what mocsta just said as idle lynch bait.


I'm scum claiming


My (IAmRobik) own conclusion from Thrawn's pg 3 filter: bum probably scum

Could you explain why? I agree, but I'd like to hear why you think bum is scum.

and also why you don't want to lynch him?

On February 19 2014 05:50 IAmRobik wrote:
Let's just lynch: Grack/Mordanis/jjd/sidesprang in any order

IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 18 2014 21:45 GMT
#1230
On February 19 2014 06:39 VIVAX420 wrote:
@rob the seal doesn't confirm grack. i think he's town but not because of the seal. not giving reasons so dont ask

Did you like my QP read now that his role has been revealed Good thing that pseudo confirms me as town, cause I would have never brought that shit up and he would have been my night kill.

In before I get called out by 3 more people for trying to clear myself for stuff that i would/wouldn't have done

So far, I've done with that QP.
Chew did that with JJD.
You've done that with Grack.

WHO THE FUCK ARE WE ALLOWED TO LYNCH!??!!?
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 18 2014 21:47 GMT
#1231
On February 19 2014 06:43 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 06:39 Mordanis wrote:
On February 19 2014 03:16 IAmRobik wrote:
Well that's pretty clear.

roundabound = town

On February 16 2014 17:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
stop voting roundabound



thrawn = mafia

On February 16 2014 17:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
On February 16 2014 17:33 bumatlarge wrote:
On February 16 2014 17:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
someone who is under no suspicion asks to be lynched and you think it's a good idea to indulge them? really?


Their is a big difference in asking to be lynched and claiming scum. I would consider asking to be lynched a null tell because it's TL mafia, but you can't say "I'm scum claiming" and not hinting at a joke whatsoever. Don't get me wrong, Rayn likes to be stupid to prove a point in dramatic ways, but I doubt they went over what mocsta just said as idle lynch bait.


I'm scum claiming


My (IAmRobik) own conclusion from Thrawn's pg 3 filter: bum probably scum

Could you explain why? I agree, but I'd like to hear why you think bum is scum.

and also why you don't want to lynch him?

Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 05:50 IAmRobik wrote:
Let's just lynch: Grack/Mordanis/jjd/sidesprang in any order


I'll explain the read on why I think he's scum after I reread that filter. I forget already.

As for why I don't want to kill him...because I find all 4 of you scummy and I think that 2...not more...not less....exactly 2 mafia lie in the 4 of you.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 18 2014 21:51 GMT
#1232
Thrawn kinda delves into the case:

bum harps on roundabound's scum claim too long. He bases the entirety of his reads off of that assumption instead of coming up with legit reads. As thrawn points out, bum contradicts himself w/r/t roundabound's meta. And he pretty much has it set in his mind to lynch no one but roundabound because of policy.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 18 2014 21:52 GMT
#1233
I'm being pretty damn lazy about doing the voting analysis. If someone wants to do it for me that would be great.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 18 2014 21:56 GMT
#1234
Wow Mordanis, have you really not cast a single vote this game?
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 18 2014 22:05 GMT
#1235
On February 19 2014 06:33 roundabound wrote:
Vivax when you are here can you please scumhunt with me?

~rayn


SURE BRO. Here's a scummy meta case on Mordanis:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=331498&user=Mordanis&view=all

See ya. (Actually, do compare the games).
Kush and Vivax
Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
February 18 2014 22:07 GMT
#1236
More on DNP/bum

Both were primarily focused on Shiao, and aside from that tidbit I'd say DNP is null/town read

bum, however, is very scummy. Aside from the post I talked about earlier, he's mostly just given fairly bland policy. E.G + Show Spoiler +
On February 15 2014 05:12 bumatlarge wrote:
Hi

Gonna read the thread but two things

1) being apathetic to who are the hydras helps to read them. I've played with and against hydras, and it's a lot harder for them as scum then as town. Town hydras tend to not focus on interactions and have a more aloof sense of the game. Good scum hydras attempt to do the same, but where it gets funny is when they need to defend themselves. Then they let you know who's doing the talking lol
2) if a blue role needs to claim, just say blue, especially I you are boxer. This happened last game with a few people claiming boxers when I was a cop, and it kinda narrowed how open my claim would be. I would just keep quiet and do the setup math in your head until later.


On February 15 2014 15:53 bumatlarge wrote:
How are you both so certain this early into the game that mafia don't have a "good player" on their team. Give me a single good reason why going slow isn't better. Yall ignorant.

Don't defend an awful line.


On February 15 2014 16:49 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 16:24 VIVAX420 wrote:
On February 15 2014 15:53 bumatlarge wrote:
How are you both so certain this early into the game that mafia don't have a "good player" on their team. Give me a single good reason why going slow isn't better. Yall ignorant.

Don't defend an awful line.


I think there are pros and cons to going slow. A lot of people have discussed this. I would like to lynch shaopi now, mostly because I'm bored. I don't like IML.


I don't see the cons, but talking about feels like a waste. I don't like IML as town. As mafia it's great!


On February 16 2014 02:35 bumatlarge wrote:
That said, I'm still on the go slow plan. Gumshoe/replace isn't here, and until then we can afford to wait.


On February 16 2014 09:21 bumatlarge wrote:
I'm cautious about how many people are jumping on Shiao. Even if I think he's the scummiest I've come across in the thread, the reasons aren't all that strong. Sure he has little content and doesn't seem to be improving them, but day 1 townies do this.

Mattchew, I think this is what you usually do, but can you give a little more detail to who you are accusing? I wouldn't insult the game of mafia by calling them reads. You seem "ok with lynching X" about all of the time. The only thing I've liked about what you said so far is about sidespring. Do you have more on every other player in the game you've mentioned?


On February 16 2014 09:32 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 22:03 ShiaoPi wrote:
some short summary to work with:

townreads:

ShiaoPi - most obv town ever (yay!)
DNP/Bumatlarge - leaning town
roundabound - pretty surely in town

scummy guys:
quantumpope - feels like best lynch today
mattchew - nonfactor and nothing to show for
mordanis - see above
vivax - this one is more tricky. I did not like the entrance and the half assed shit on thrawn. he is doing the same shit to me. Quoting not my last scumgame and also a large one instead of a mini/smaller sized. just fyi that is the first post from my last scumgame:
On June 09 2013 13:42 ShiaoPi wrote:
sooo....anybody here?

also would you in the interest of all please start signing your goddamn posts? kush and vivax are at least in my opinion totally different players and it makes a shitton of difference who is posting. Makes me feel like you are purposely doing it to confuse us.


rest is pretty much nullish. see you later (yea I am a lazy guy)


I hope you know this post is why people are voting you. Put it this way, you are making it really easy for mafia to vote you, and town won't be able to tell. QuantomPope seems to be fitting his meta that he had in the LSB Restart game, which lead him to be shot by a vig. He was a boon to my mafia team, and gave us a strong edge just because of how much a single misread town player trips up town from figuring the game out. You can't really accuse people for calling out bad play as town, so it keeps the game from developing which is ideal for mafia. You are currently in that boat. It is very easy to avoid getting lynched day 1 as long as you remain active and open. Look at Robot, I'm not a big fan of how he is approaching the game, but I would be surprised if he flips scum this game.

It seems like you have a stronger read on Vivax then you do QuantomPope. Can you respond to what he has said. I would appreciate if you two(three?) would hash out what you think of each other. I'm in the same boat with your scum list, but because you don't go into much detail, I can't benefit from what you think!

Lazy people get lynched dude I know this first-hand.

*Editor's interpretation: Hey, I think you seem like town, but you are an easy candidate for lynch, so we are going to lynch you
And there's plenty more, so please read through bum's filter.

In general, bum has come into the thread after ~3 days and completely failed to bring a fresh perspective. He has also done essentially no scumhunting aside from going after Round for claiming scum. He voted Shiao early, and then seemed to talk to Shiao as town, without any effort to find any scum.

## vote bumatlarge
I love the smell of napalm in the morning... it smells like... victory. -_^ Favorite SC2 match ->Liquid`HerO vs. SlayerS CranK g.1 @MLG Summer Championship
Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
February 18 2014 22:12 GMT
#1237
On February 19 2014 07:05 VIVAX420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 06:33 roundabound wrote:
Vivax when you are here can you please scumhunt with me?

~rayn


SURE BRO. Here's a scummy meta case on Mordanis:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=331498&user=Mordanis&view=all

See ya. (Actually, do compare the games).

So I'm scum because I'm not playing this game like my first game ever ~2 years ago. Sweet case. Is this meta case #3 for you? Do you do anything other than meta?
I love the smell of napalm in the morning... it smells like... victory. -_^ Favorite SC2 match ->Liquid`HerO vs. SlayerS CranK g.1 @MLG Summer Championship
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 18 2014 22:13 GMT
#1238
On February 19 2014 06:52 IAmRobik wrote:
I'm being pretty damn lazy about doing the voting analysis. If someone wants to do it for me that would be great.
Well of the 4 people u want to lynch: Grack and sidespring voted for town, Mordanis didnt vote @ all, and I tried to vote for Grack and sidespring.
sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
February 18 2014 22:14 GMT
#1239
And what do you conclude from that JJD ?
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 18 2014 22:20 GMT
#1240
On February 19 2014 07:12 Mordanis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 07:05 VIVAX420 wrote:
On February 19 2014 06:33 roundabound wrote:
Vivax when you are here can you please scumhunt with me?

~rayn


SURE BRO. Here's a scummy meta case on Mordanis:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=331498&user=Mordanis&view=all

See ya. (Actually, do compare the games).

So I'm scum because I'm not playing this game like my first game ever ~2 years ago. Sweet case. Is this meta case #3 for you? Do you do anything other than meta?


Dude, wtf are you doing. You were on my ass since D1 and now you go vote for somebody else.

One of your previous points vs me.
Another meta case, and this one lead to a mislynch. I'm gonna look at this in more detail in the morning, but I'm feeling that vivax is super scummy right now.


Still not pushing a lynch on me.

Now I post another meta case, this time even on you, and you start bickering but don't want to lynch me.
Can you tell me how somebody could take that read of yours on me seriously?
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