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So I'm scum because I'm not playing this game like my first game ever ~2 years ago. Sweet case. Is this meta case #3 for you? Do you do anything other than meta?
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On February 19 2014 07:20 VIVAX420 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 07:12 Mordanis wrote:So I'm scum because I'm not playing this game like my first game ever ~2 years ago. Sweet case. Is this meta case #3 for you? Do you do anything other than meta? Dude, wtf are you doing. You were on my ass since D1 and now you go vote for somebody else. One of your previous points vs me. Show nested quote +Another meta case, and this one lead to a mislynch. I'm gonna look at this in more detail in the morning, but I'm feeling that vivax is super scummy right now. Still not pushing a lynch on me. Now I post another meta case, this time even on you, and you start bickering but don't want to lynch me. Can you tell me how somebody could take that read of yours on me seriously?
Sure, I'm pretty sure you're scum, but I'm more sure about my read on bum. As a hydra, every once in a while something you say is pretty decent, which is not the case with bum. Also, you have at least posted content, while bum has not. So you're hella scummy, but bum is scummier and cruft.
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On February 19 2014 11:49 roundabound wrote:
Grack
Do u think a townie would ignore discussing my case when doing a thread summary?
~moc
For your reply you so desperately want:
I've already said that I don't terribly mind being lynched early. I'd much rather get as much solid analysis as possible out and get out early so others can view my analysis without the nagging doubt of alignment than spend all my time convincing everyone I'm super duper confirmed town. With that in mind, should I spend the little time I have defending myself against a full-filter case or look at other people? Without spending too much time on this, I'd say that your observations were pretty accurate, that I'm playing a really shitty game. So really the only way I can convince you I'm not scum is to play better mafia. Better use of time + only way to argue against your case = the way I go.
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On February 19 2014 10:27 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 07:07 Mordanis wrote:More on DNP/bum Both were primarily focused on Shiao, and aside from that tidbit I'd say DNP is null/town read bum, however, is very scummy. Aside from the post I talked about earlier, he's mostly just given fairly bland policy. E.G + Show Spoiler +On February 15 2014 05:12 bumatlarge wrote:
Hi
Gonna read the thread but two things
1) being apathetic to who are the hydras helps to read them. I've played with and against hydras, and it's a lot harder for them as scum then as town. Town hydras tend to not focus on interactions and have a more aloof sense of the game. Good scum hydras attempt to do the same, but where it gets funny is when they need to defend themselves. Then they let you know who's doing the talking lol
2) if a blue role needs to claim, just say blue, especially I you are boxer. This happened last game with a few people claiming boxers when I was a cop, and it kinda narrowed how open my claim would be. I would just keep quiet and do the setup math in your head until later. On February 15 2014 15:53 bumatlarge wrote:
How are you both so certain this early into the game that mafia don't have a "good player" on their team. Give me a single good reason why going slow isn't better. Yall ignorant.
Don't defend an awful line. On February 15 2014 16:49 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 16:24 VIVAX420 wrote:On February 15 2014 15:53 bumatlarge wrote:
How are you both so certain this early into the game that mafia don't have a "good player" on their team. Give me a single good reason why going slow isn't better. Yall ignorant.
Don't defend an awful line. I think there are pros and cons to going slow. A lot of people have discussed this. I would like to lynch shaopi now, mostly because I'm bored. I don't like IML. I don't see the cons, but talking about feels like a waste. I don't like IML as town. As mafia it's great! On February 16 2014 02:35 bumatlarge wrote:
That said, I'm still on the go slow plan. Gumshoe/replace isn't here, and until then we can afford to wait. On February 16 2014 09:21 bumatlarge wrote:
I'm cautious about how many people are jumping on Shiao. Even if I think he's the scummiest I've come across in the thread, the reasons aren't all that strong. Sure he has little content and doesn't seem to be improving them, but day 1 townies do this.
Mattchew, I think this is what you usually do, but can you give a little more detail to who you are accusing? I wouldn't insult the game of mafia by calling them reads. You seem "ok with lynching X" about all of the time. The only thing I've liked about what you said so far is about sidespring. Do you have more on every other player in the game you've mentioned? On February 16 2014 09:32 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 22:03 ShiaoPi wrote:some short summary to work with: townreads: ShiaoPi - most obv town ever (yay!) DNP/Bumatlarge - leaning town roundabound - pretty surely in town scummy guys: quantumpope - feels like best lynch today mattchew - nonfactor and nothing to show for mordanis - see above vivax - this one is more tricky. I did not like the entrance and the half assed shit on thrawn. he is doing the same shit to me. Quoting not my last scumgame and also a large one instead of a mini/smaller sized. just fyi that is the first post from my last scumgame: On June 09 2013 13:42 ShiaoPi wrote:
sooo....anybody here? also would you in the interest of all please start signing your goddamn posts? kush and vivax are at least in my opinion totally different players and it makes a shitton of difference who is posting. Makes me feel like you are purposely doing it to confuse us. rest is pretty much nullish. see you later (yea I am a lazy guy) I hope you know this post is why people are voting you. Put it this way, you are making it really easy for mafia to vote you, and town won't be able to tell. QuantomPope seems to be fitting his meta that he had in the LSB Restart game, which lead him to be shot by a vig. He was a boon to my mafia team, and gave us a strong edge just because of how much a single misread town player trips up town from figuring the game out. You can't really accuse people for calling out bad play as town, so it keeps the game from developing which is ideal for mafia. You are currently in that boat. It is very easy to avoid getting lynched day 1 as long as you remain active and open. Look at Robot, I'm not a big fan of how he is approaching the game, but I would be surprised if he flips scum this game. It seems like you have a stronger read on Vivax then you do QuantomPope. Can you respond to what he has said. I would appreciate if you two(three?) would hash out what you think of each other. I'm in the same boat with your scum list, but because you don't go into much detail, I can't benefit from what you think! Lazy people get lynched dude  I know this first-hand. *Editor's interpretation: Hey, I think you seem like town, but you are an easy candidate for lynch, so we are going to lynch you And there's plenty more, so please read through bum's filter. In general, bum has come into the thread after ~3 days and completely failed to bring a fresh perspective. He has also done essentially no scumhunting aside from going after Round for claiming scum. He voted Shiao early, and then seemed to talk to Shiao as town, without any effort to find any scum. ## vote bumatlarge Let's chat mord. I probably did get too hung up on Round, but I did everything I could to get a better understanding of ShiaoPi's play this game. No one questioned his views from a town standpoint, and i think you can see why I was trying to stall the lynch on him by the other post you call me scummy for. Nothing I did indicated I knew anything about ShiaoPi's alignment, and I have him every opportunity to explain himself. I'll take the blame for lynching a townie, but what ou are looking for in my posts require assumptions about my alignment. Look at my reasoning from a town viewpoint, and I can guarentee it makes sense. I'll answer anything I missed if you want. I'm going to try to figure out Matthew, but it may take me some time to do him justice. I suggest going slow again this cycle.
I don't agree. You've now been a participant for nearly half the game, and I still don't really see any scumhunting. Even looking at your posting in the best light, you've really only tried (unsuccessfully) to determine if a lynch candidate could be town, and tried to lynch a player who claimed scum. This is why I think you are a great lynch candidate, because I think that you are very scummy and aren't helping anyways.
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On February 19 2014 12:15 roundabound wrote:
Mordanis what's your take on cases presented on D2 other than yours? Do you think you can get bumatlarge lynched and if you do, why are you not pushing the case more or asking opinions on it?
~rayn
I'm not pushing harder because I simply haven't had enough time at the computer to push harder. As for Matt, I think the case on him is quite strong. I'm going to have to read his filter and the cases posted against him in the next little bit, but for sure I don't want to rush a lynch this early into the cycle without hearing from him. We should probably avoid another 4 day cycle if everyone stops giving a shit, but long days => more information.
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As for Matt, I want to see how he reacts to the pressure on him. I think the case on him is very similar to mine on gum, namely that each player is playing in a way that benefits scum, so that even on the off chance of the target flipping town, we still benefit. I prefer my case however because it does not rely on meta-analysis, and I still read bum as scummier than Matt.
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Hey Grack and Round (and anyone else who's around)
How do you feel about bum?
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Hey vivax, could you clearly describe why you think Round is scum? From what I can tell it's because his play isn't protown. I'm not entirely sure what your read is based on, and I really don't feel like reading through several pages of the two of you bickering.
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Grack, how do you feel about lynching bum today?
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Also @Vivax: I recall you remarking that you think Robik might be scum, but not any reasoning for it. Do you still think so?
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On February 19 2014 12:11 Mordanis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 11:49 roundabound wrote:
Grack
Do u think a townie would ignore discussing my case when doing a thread summary?
~moc For your reply you so desperately want: I've already said that I don't terribly mind being lynched early. I'd much rather get as much solid analysis as possible out and get out early so others can view my analysis without the nagging doubt of alignment than spend all my time convincing everyone I'm super duper confirmed town. With that in mind, should I spend the little time I have defending myself against a full-filter case or look at other people? Without spending too much time on this, I'd say that your observations were pretty accurate, that I'm playing a really shitty game. So really the only way I can convince you I'm not scum is to play better mafia. Better use of time + only way to argue against your case = the way I go.
Already discussed this
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No, because there are solid cases going around. Also, I misunderstood your point. Yeah, I did find that weird, but the fact that the other head of the hydra had seemed to have a town read on me kind of threw me off.
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On February 20 2014 06:55 VIVAX420 wrote:
But actually, he's not the one I'd lynch today. But for now I don't trust the hydra in choosing a lynch given the displayed attitude.
So who would you lynch today if you had your druthers
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So by my count, everyone has voted except for Matt and Vivax. Vivax, why have you not voted, it seems like you've had plenty of scumreads.
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I didn't want to lynch him without giving him a chance to explain himself. He's been back and promised to do things, but my patience is wearing thin. Still, I don't think having longer days is a bad thing.
Also, I'm still suspicious of vivax, and the fact that they've been around a lot and given a lot of scum reads, but haven't voted is very interesting to me. I'm curious to see why they havent voted.
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On February 22 2014 04:21 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 04:06 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm pretty much done posting for this cycle x2 IML w/ no time limit is flawed.
I'm done with this cycle. Matt asked to be lynched, I'll oblige.
##Vote: Mattchew
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On February 22 2014 04:50 Blazinghand wrote:
You need to ##unvote to vote someone new.
I don't get 2 votes? lame.
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Yeah, I'm a bit sorry about how this game turned out. A little after I came back from my trip I realized that essentially the best play was to stop giving a shit. There were seriously moments when I thought about things I could talk about to maybe help our position, but then thought that the benefits of lurking were greater. I think this was the best game I could have played in given how busy I've been recently, but also a good reminder of why I don't really play any more. I simply wouldn't have had the time to play an evenly remotely useful game as town.
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Man, there isn't even any post game activity. How appropriate :C
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