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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 20 2014 18:26 GMT
#321
On January 21 2014 03:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so you think VE could do pretty much all of these things as town aswell but not all in the same game? Or do you think too much little weird things that add up?

On January 21 2014 03:15 bumatlarge wrote:
There is a threshold of how scummy you look by how poor you are playing that you are no longer town. I think VE passed that.

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JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 20 2014 18:27 GMT
#322
I agree bum. When I read the thread yesterday VE stuck out to me as not trying to push anything forward. Let's chit chat and clog up policy all day.

raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 18:27 GMT
#323
Yeah bum i got that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 18:28 GMT
#324
On January 21 2014 03:25 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:20 kushm4sta wrote:
On January 21 2014 02:49 suki wrote:
On January 21 2014 02:46 bumatlarge wrote:
To be fair, I was not expecting all three initial posts to be completely taken out of context.


For the record I don't think bumatlarge is scum at this point.

why did you feel the need to clarify that right now?


Because Rayn is tunneling him and twisting his words and I think it's unproductive.

Actually show me where i am twisting his words. A couple of posts before this you agree with what i was saying about him.
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 20 2014 18:29 GMT
#325
ve played really passive in his last town game, remember
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 18:29 GMT
#326
On January 21 2014 03:18 suki wrote:
@Rayn
I agree that he's not making strong statements and that he seems to be overthinking the 'what if I'm wrong' part of his argument. However, I had a peek at bum's previous games and he plays the same sort of non-commital game as townie.

I think his case makes sense minus the wishy-washiness, and I agree with him that VE has been playing scummy (kush being second on my list).

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JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 20 2014 18:29 GMT
#327
Also, I think balla's scum and I don't know how to read kush at all. Maybe scum too.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 20 2014 18:30 GMT
#328
Artanis is sliding by nicely for someone who gets reads for conversations when this thread is active at the moment.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 20 2014 18:31 GMT
#329
On January 21 2014 03:25 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:20 kushm4sta wrote:
On January 21 2014 02:49 suki wrote:
On January 21 2014 02:46 bumatlarge wrote:
To be fair, I was not expecting all three initial posts to be completely taken out of context.


For the record I don't think bumatlarge is scum at this point.

why did you feel the need to clarify that right now?


Because Rayn is tunneling him and twisting his words and I think it's unproductive.

Why would putting your townread on the record change any of that though?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 20 2014 18:31 GMT
#330
Do you have more on Kush rayn? If you have something more, I'd like to hear it. I find him difficult to read.

And I believe Barristan is the last person that needs to post. I'd suggest people start to vote now so we can see where we are at. I think there is enough content that people should be able to make some reasonable reads.
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suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
January 20 2014 18:32 GMT
#331
On January 21 2014 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not even voting for him after his first clarification. Where did you get the idea that i am tunneling him?


- - -

On January 21 2014 02:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have absolutely no idea why bumatlarge is voting for VE because he did just say "he did some stuff i find out to be scummy but then again i remember him doing same kinda stuff as town too".

I have no idea what his read on VE is because it's inconsistent.


Perhaps it's just a difference in interpretation, but you start grilling bumatlarge for being 'inconsistent' when I don't see one.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 18:33 GMT
#332
On January 21 2014 03:31 bumatlarge wrote:
Do you have more on Kush rayn? If you have something more, I'd like to hear it. I find him difficult to read.

And I believe Barristan is the last person that needs to post. I'd suggest people start to vote now so we can see where we are at. I think there is enough content that people should be able to make some reasonable reads.

What i have on kush is what i have said.
He has a townread on half of the people in the game and refuses to explain why. If he is town he has reasons for his reads. If he is scum he has not. Seems like he has not.
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 20 2014 18:33 GMT
#333
you shouldn't even worry about my alignment, just like I won't worry about rayn's fail wagon on me. I will be pretty solidly town by EoD.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 20 2014 18:34 GMT
#334
On January 21 2014 03:33 kushm4sta wrote:
you shouldn't even worry about my alignment, just like I won't worry about rayn's fail wagon on me. I will be pretty solidly town by EoD.


Yeah thats what I'm banking on, but I feel like that isn't a reliable thing for me to bank on.
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 20 2014 18:34 GMT
#335
rayn the reads were weak so there is not a lot of explanation.
you kept asking about them, asking more detail, and it got annoying, so i made you stfu about it by leaving.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 20 2014 18:34 GMT
#336
On January 21 2014 03:32 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not even voting for him after his first clarification. Where did you get the idea that i am tunneling him?


- - -

Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 02:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have absolutely no idea why bumatlarge is voting for VE because he did just say "he did some stuff i find out to be scummy but then again i remember him doing same kinda stuff as town too".

I have no idea what his read on VE is because it's inconsistent.


Perhaps it's just a difference in interpretation, but you start grilling bumatlarge for being 'inconsistent' when I don't see one.

What, you even agreed with me in saying the case is wishy-washy. How can you call me out for "twisting his words" when you agree with me, because that was what i was saying before he clarified his case?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 20 2014 18:35 GMT
#337
On January 21 2014 03:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:31 bumatlarge wrote:
Do you have more on Kush rayn? If you have something more, I'd like to hear it. I find him difficult to read.

And I believe Barristan is the last person that needs to post. I'd suggest people start to vote now so we can see where we are at. I think there is enough content that people should be able to make some reasonable reads.

What i have on kush is what i have said.
He has a townread on half of the people in the game and refuses to explain why. If he is town he has reasons for his reads. If he is scum he has not. Seems like he has not.


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JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 20 2014 18:35 GMT
#338
I'm fine with voting now to get a showing.

##vote balla24

Says he's inquisitive, tries to appeal to me about our other games played and does nothing.

That's my vote for the moment.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 20 2014 18:40 GMT
#339
ew get away from me jl
##unvote balla
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 20 2014 18:40 GMT
#340
I have to get back to work, I'll be around in 6~ hours
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