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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
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Last Edited: 2014-01-14 01:29:31
January 14 2014 01:29 GMT
#5
/in I PROMISE TO BE GOOD THIS TIME AND NOT ACCIDENTLALY MODKILL ALL MY FRIENDS

e: also i'm really super sorry about last game. i'm serious.
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United States25550 Posts
January 14 2014 02:25 GMT
#24
5v5 mid only pudge wars wtf mode
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 14 2014 04:35 GMT
#33
On January 14 2014 13:25 Hopeless1der wrote:
yeah but he also took mason's out, thats a huge buff to BH

i can't stop laughing
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Last Edited: 2014-01-14 05:39:42
January 14 2014 05:37 GMT
#41
On January 14 2014 13:49 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 13:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 14 2014 13:25 Hopeless1der wrote:
yeah but he also took mason's out, thats a huge buff to BH


Way back at the start of the game, you were pm'ing me about your "suspicions" of BH. You talked about his memory loss being alignment indicative towards scum, followed by some line about how it might not mean he's scum though, because "remember all of BH's mason shennanigans?"

I had absolutely no idea what you were talking about, I didn't think your BH tells were alignment indicative, I couldn't understand your fixation on BH's mason play, nor did I believe your read on BH....

everything made sooo much sense when you finally claimed, I immediately knew BH was the other half

that wasnt specifically about his mason play, it was more that BH seems prone to forgetting things that other people might consider rather important. Like how he hosted that game kush rolled scum in, then made a comment about not being sure of kush' alignment.


So this is kinda interesting, I legit have bad memory. like geript was all reminiscing about that time we were scum together in some game and I had no idea what he was talking about. so i was like "yeah man, i remember that. that was cool. you had some big plays!" but of course for all i knew he was making it up

I forget who my mason partner is

sometimes I forget I'm a blue role.

whenever I'm in a TS with someone and I want to talk about something, I always ask if they're in a game I'm playing, even if i'm at like LYLO with 2 other people and those 2 other people are marv and WBG or some 2 people you'd never expect me to forget

when I meet new people, and shake their hand and learn their name, I have a LOT of trouble remembering their name. what I do is repeat it back to myself a few times and then forget it later

oh yes
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 14 2014 06:15 GMT
#45
On January 14 2014 15:05 Coagulation wrote:
Blazinghand got half of town modkilled and the other half quit.

And the medic protected a townie but LSB decided to let scum kill him anyway.


well HALF is a bit of an exaggeration. it was only like a 5th.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 14 2014 06:26 GMT
#47
yeah, see! hey, wait a second...
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 17:26:13
January 14 2014 17:25 GMT
#115
Man ok I get the part where I get my 2 bros and myself modkilled being my fault, but you guys gotta understand when people shout at you for a few hours to post logs you really want to do it. What I don't get being my fault is rayn thinking that the three of us are scum just because I'm BH and I "do crazy things" or whatever. Like yeah I claim a lot as scum, but 3 people claiming? shit man i'm crazy but i'm not that crazy

like I legit thing it's a better theory of "bh is scum" that i'm scum and the other two are townies i convinced to fakeclaim mason than that I somehow convinced 3/4 of my team to fakeclaim mason.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 14 2014 18:06 GMT
#118
"that weird 'I actually thinking I'm helping with this, just you see!' attitude" is called playing to wincon ;p

fwiw I think things could have gone better if we had claimed mason only to marv. I wasn't sure he was town though until he lynched xatalos
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 15 2014 02:28 GMT
#132
of course, since i'm a WBG smurf, WBG knew all this already
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 15 2014 22:34 GMT
#139
there are people without penises besides eunuchs you know
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 16 2014 02:35 GMT
#142
On January 16 2014 11:27 bumatlarge wrote:
I was going to make them women, but I didn't know where to go with that.


poor bum so inexperienced with women
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 17 2014 22:59 GMT
#145
i'll post in the previous game thread and let them know this game is open
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 21 2014 22:35 GMT
#152
I'm totally down for playing this as a mini
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 24 2014 03:47 GMT
#161
I think we'll make it!
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 24 2014 22:08 GMT
#165
:hype:
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 01:25 GMT
#242
*consolidate
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 01:33 GMT
#249
You can
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 08:28 GMT
#384
I don't trust Skanjab1s
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 08:36 GMT
#386
<3 ok
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 08:41 GMT
#387
btw if people want to vote me for mayor that's a-ok by me but ideally i think i'm just gonna figure out someone who's town and better at looking/being useful than I am and vote for them. things I would do as mayor:

A) threaten people with the hammer all the time, because I love abusing power (just ask marv!)
B) use my D1 lynch choice to slap someone in the face with my e-peen. that someone is going to be whoever is posting the least content. Normally this would be me, but since i'm not gonna lynch myself, it's going to be someone else. Right now it's skanjab. note that content =/= number of words. who I lynch will be determined entirely by me for reasons that may seem arbitrary. note, however, that they are not arbitrary simply because I do not share them with you peos.
C) anyone who wants to PM me can.
D) i can't take back the words i never said
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 09:12 GMT
#390
cause let's be real here there's only one reason to vote for me and one to vote against me

1. vote for me cause i'm freakin awesome and you want more bh in th egame. bh catches scum. bh is terrific. yay
1. you personally don't like bh

but i gotta give all kinds of fake reasons and shit cause that's what people expect. you see, people won't just vote me cause i'm awesome though maybe they should, i have to play the role of someone that people would vote for. this means making bold claims about what to do with my vote, and who i will lynch today. this means making the right kinds of noises so that people have the feeling that they're doing the right thing when they vote for me.

I hosted ET and at least skimmed every post in it, but i don't remember what happened other than that scum won.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 09:13 GMT
#391
slam just pmed me telling me he thinks i'm scum, I think. he sounds a little angry (crazy?) but it's always hard to tell with him.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 09:21 GMT
#394
On January 26 2014 15:11 Alakaslam wrote:
Well

So basically GGTeMpLaR was blue fishing in pm land, what roles was he fishing for?


did he pm you?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 09:23 GMT
#395
my only weakness is kryptonite and sexy ladies
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 09:26 GMT
#397
That artists name is actually psy
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 09:34 GMT
#399
I didn't know slams name was Jessie. yiu can't just day Jessie is town and expect me to m ow.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 18:49 GMT
#482
QuantumPope is probably not scum. He made a worthless fluffly list post, but he provided a little bit of follow-up, and if he is scum, this following reasoning for his post is probably the most chutzpah i've ever seen in a human being:
On January 27 2014 03:41 QuantumPope wrote:
I generalized to be concise. Long posts that doesn't seem to say anything, for instance the one I am quoting, doesn't really do anything for town. I could write a 2000 word post going into specifics of various individuals in the thread but I find it posts like that only hinder town. Your personal attacks on my character also seem to be unsubstantiated so I'd love for you could please elaborate on the following


This is consistent with him posting the post he posted earlier. If he's scum faking this mindset, I will stand corrected, but I don't really see a scum player getting pressure for a list post writing that long posts are bad and then attacking his attacker in this fashion. QP as scum could have easily changed course (especially this early in the day) in response to town pressure. this kind of stubbornness would be sub-optimal for scum.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 18:56 GMT
#487
OK WAIT seriously what are the reasons that anyone thinks I'm scum? Like it's cool if you think I'm scum, I'd just like someone to write a case kkthxbai
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 18:59 GMT
#492
On January 27 2014 03:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 03:56 Blazinghand wrote:
OK WAIT seriously what are the reasons that anyone thinks I'm scum? Like it's cool if you think I'm scum, I'd just like someone to write a case kkthxbai

How about you just stop being so scummy?


Fair enough, having read that question I immediately know what your concerns are oh no wait the opposite of that
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 19:02 GMT
#496
Hm, well I'd say right now I'm not a huge grack fan. he has been opting out of the general discourse of "who should we lynch" and "who should we elect to be mayor" with his farcical mayoral campaign-- it's obvious he's not going to win, and not putting any effort into trying to win. That being said, it's just trolly enough to dismiss as "trolling" without him showing up on people's radars. Barring some extreme lurker still lurking at the end of D1, I'd say Grack is my most solid lynch choice today. He also sent me a PM asking who we should shoot tonight, which I assume was trolling as well. Regardless: he's opting out. probably scum.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 19:03 GMT
#499
On January 27 2014 04:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 03:59 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 27 2014 03:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 27 2014 03:56 Blazinghand wrote:
OK WAIT seriously what are the reasons that anyone thinks I'm scum? Like it's cool if you think I'm scum, I'd just like someone to write a case kkthxbai

How about you just stop being so scummy?


Fair enough, having read that question I immediately know what your concerns are oh no wait the opposite of that

Whats the point of hard defending someone so early in day 1? Are you that sure that QP isnt scum? Willing to bet your ingame life on it?


QP is lynchbait and you know it. I'm fairly sure he isn't scum. He sure aint the best lynch today. I don't know how I could "bet my life" on QP being scum, unless you're planning to get town onboard with a "lynch QP, and if he flips town lynch BH" deal which I would obviously not accept.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 19:05 GMT
#502
On January 27 2014 04:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 03:59 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 27 2014 03:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 27 2014 03:56 Blazinghand wrote:
OK WAIT seriously what are the reasons that anyone thinks I'm scum? Like it's cool if you think I'm scum, I'd just like someone to write a case kkthxbai

How about you just stop being so scummy?


Fair enough, having read that question I immediately know what your concerns are oh no wait the opposite of that



Idk about them, but for me personally:

I liked your post at first and was like "oh shit maybe QP is town, especially his latest post I liked a lot - this BH guy is my top town for pointing this out before anyone else"

Then I thought "well wouldn't it be super pro if a mafia made the first post that caused everyone to realize QP is town to get town cred"

Then I decided I wasn't actually sold on QP yet as town or mafia and that he still leaned scummy - and even if he's town it could be either scenario so I will null-read for now but you haven't really done anything besides that QP read.


don't bother with giving me towncred for defending QP. just realize that QP is an "easy" lynch, and not because he's scummy, but because his thought process, which seems internally consistent to me, is foreign to other players. He's the kind of guy who can get lynched D1, flip town, and we'll go into D2 basically going "well, that happened" because that's what happens to players like QP. just don't lynch him today, see how it goes. If he's still unreadable in a day, we have more lynches. I look at QP and I see a wagon that is suspiciously easy, if that makes sense.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 19:07 GMT
#504
On January 27 2014 04:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 04:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On January 27 2014 03:59 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 27 2014 03:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 27 2014 03:56 Blazinghand wrote:
OK WAIT seriously what are the reasons that anyone thinks I'm scum? Like it's cool if you think I'm scum, I'd just like someone to write a case kkthxbai

How about you just stop being so scummy?


Fair enough, having read that question I immediately know what your concerns are oh no wait the opposite of that



Idk about them, but for me personally:

I liked your post at first and was like "oh shit maybe QP is town, especially his latest post I liked a lot - this BH guy is my top town for pointing this out before anyone else"

Then I thought "well wouldn't it be super pro if a mafia made the first post that caused everyone to realize QP is town to get town cred"

Then I decided I wasn't actually sold on QP yet as town or mafia and that he still leaned scummy - and even if he's town it could be either scenario so I will null-read for now but you haven't really done anything besides that QP read.

So what was the actual conclusion here. That BH never actually said anything?


The conclusion is ggtemp doesn't feel comfortable taking a strong read on me at this time. He probably isn't aware that most of you are just pushing me because that's how you get me to do anything before D2, and is wondering what the deal is with all these people pushing BH. He's feeling a little out of place. He thinks he's missing some subtext--and he is.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 19:08 GMT
#506
On January 27 2014 04:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 04:05 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 27 2014 04:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On January 27 2014 03:59 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 27 2014 03:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 27 2014 03:56 Blazinghand wrote:
OK WAIT seriously what are the reasons that anyone thinks I'm scum? Like it's cool if you think I'm scum, I'd just like someone to write a case kkthxbai

How about you just stop being so scummy?


Fair enough, having read that question I immediately know what your concerns are oh no wait the opposite of that



Idk about them, but for me personally:

I liked your post at first and was like "oh shit maybe QP is town, especially his latest post I liked a lot - this BH guy is my top town for pointing this out before anyone else"

Then I thought "well wouldn't it be super pro if a mafia made the first post that caused everyone to realize QP is town to get town cred"

Then I decided I wasn't actually sold on QP yet as town or mafia and that he still leaned scummy - and even if he's town it could be either scenario so I will null-read for now but you haven't really done anything besides that QP read.


don't bother with giving me towncred for defending QP. just realize that QP is an "easy" lynch, and not because he's scummy, but because his thought process, which seems internally consistent to me, is foreign to other players. He's the kind of guy who can get lynched D1, flip town, and we'll go into D2 basically going "well, that happened" because that's what happens to players like QP. just don't lynch him today, see how it goes. If he's still unreadable in a day, we have more lynches. I look at QP and I see a wagon that is suspiciously easy, if that makes sense.

In what way is it suspiciously easy? BC said something and then KUSH agreed with him. What do you mean by "suspiciously easy" exactly?


Well, as I've explained in the previous paragraphs, QP case is imo showing the signs of the classic "let's lynch this guy because he's different" stuff. If QP was really newbie scum (instead of newbie town) we'd find 1) he wouldn't be making this posts flagrantly defending a weird position ("long posts are bad!") and 2) his posts to begin with would make more sense since he has a scum QT to coordinate with

come on man this is scumhunting 101. can't' you smell a mislynch like this a mile away?
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 19:11 GMT
#508
don't worry i solved the puzzle
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 19:13 GMT
#510
so nobody has any comments on grack huh
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 19:43 GMT
#522
On January 27 2014 04:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
BH why would I ever vote for you after your last few games here? As well as trust someone who is playing terribly in PM land?


I'm not asking for your vote, so that's yet another reason not to vote for me.
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United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 20:14 GMT
#529
I actually have no read on BC right now even though i probably should and he's posted stuff
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 20:15 GMT
#530
you mean n1 nk right
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 20:21 GMT
#538
On January 27 2014 05:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 05:20 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 27 2014 05:17 Grackaroni wrote:
Just to be clear. Everybody voting for BC is voting yes to lynching QP?

^^ this not exactly.

I should elaborate. I don't mind his being lynched but I am not particularly for it either, he is a null read.

I most certainly want a vet mayor though.

Can you elaborate on why plz?


because people are afraid of making decisions for themselves.
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United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 20:22 GMT
#541
you could even argue that a vet is the worst choice since a vet will look town regardless of alignment
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United States25550 Posts
January 26 2014 20:24 GMT
#545
On January 27 2014 05:22 Balla24 wrote:
also a rookie might have inherent biases that a vet does not


I swapped the two things you're comparing in this sentence and it still makes sense, meanign that this is a non-sentence
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January 26 2014 20:33 GMT
#552
On January 27 2014 05:30 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 05:24 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 27 2014 05:22 Balla24 wrote:
also a rookie might have inherent biases that a vet does not


I swapped the two things you're comparing in this sentence and it still makes sense, meanign that this is a non-sentence


no, not really, what kind of biases do you think i have? or ggtemplar?


like ok here's what i'm trying to say (sorry i should be more clear). you can't just say "we shouldn't elect a vet because a vet might have biases a rookie doesn't have" without specifying what kind of biases these are. Like, by definition a vet will have different biases than a rookie because a vet has played more games, right? Or maybe a vet knows people better or something. If you can put together a reason why these biases might be bad (for example, a vet might arbitrarily be pro lynching BH since BH is way to sexy) or at least a list of what these biases ARE, then we can have a conversation. otherwise, you're just weighing in without saying anything, a classic active lurker move. Balla24.
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On January 27 2014 05:34 StorrZerg wrote:
ggtemplar is a rookie over yourself do you not agree BH?

also BH how likely would you be to lynch a vet day 1? how likely would any vet be to lynch a vet day 1 as a mayor?

even moving off that, everyone who plays this game has bias. Players they like, players they don't care for and would lynch scum or town because they hate their play.


I suspect there are certain vets (VE, Marv, etc) who basically never get lynched D1 because when they are town they are often shot. I'd certainly be hesitant to lynch VE, or even to consider pushing him, even if I thought he was scum, during D1. For example, this game I don't have a townread on VE, which is evidence to me that he's scum (scum VE rarely strikes me as scummy). you wont' see mentioning this or pushing it in thread though, for a number of reasons. mostly ve isn't lynchable today, and I could be wrong and he'll be shot tonight. But also, my read on VE is a gutread. something just seems off to him. I can't just point at something and say "this is where VE is being scum" because if I could, I would just do that. I may have to sit and think a bit leading up to D2 on whether or not he really is scum, and as importantly, whether or not actually pushing him would do anything but get me lynched.
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#559
aren't you Wile
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#581
Hey mocsta are you around
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Are there qurstiobs?
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#614
BTW i understand that my effort so far has been sub-optimal, but i've been eating dinner. i'm just about to sit down to dinner but afterwards i'll come rock your worlds (not sexually)
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yeah VE probably scum
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#646
mocsta town but i don't like him because of our pmland interactions. Grack seems to trust him so i'm down with that. not sure on balla, ve scum. note ve's reaction to mocsta's case. not interested in engaging. just wants to use his VE-ness to brush it under the rug. scum mocsta wouldn't go after VE because scum doesn't want to go after VE.

if I were mayor I'd lynch VE.

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i'm just making a point that VE is scum and mocsta is town is the only explanation that makes sense
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#652
On January 27 2014 15:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 15:24 Blazinghand wrote:
i'm just making a point that VE is scum and mocsta is town is the only explanation that makes sense

And both of them town doesnt make sense?

well duh, look at VE's reaction to mocsta's case. do you think town VE would just brush it off? no, town VE knows mocsta is wrong. Town VE would slap that shit out of the sky because he knows, deep down, that he's right and mocsta is wrong. VE is subconsciously less willing to engage with mocsta's case because he knows it's right
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#655
On January 27 2014 15:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 15:26 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 27 2014 15:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 27 2014 15:24 Blazinghand wrote:
i'm just making a point that VE is scum and mocsta is town is the only explanation that makes sense

And both of them town doesnt make sense?

well duh, look at VE's reaction to mocsta's case. do you think town VE would just brush it off? no, town VE knows mocsta is wrong. Town VE would slap that shit out of the sky because he knows, deep down, that he's right and mocsta is wrong. VE is subconsciously less willing to engage with mocsta's case because he knows it's right

Town VE already knows that mocsta is under huge pressure. Show me meta about this pls.


it's not meta dude it's basic scumtells, applies to everyone. and town ANYONE seeing someone under pressure try to engage them would RESPOND unless he's afraid because he really knows it's a legit attack
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#656
On January 27 2014 15:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually if VE is town, I would expect him to react differently because mocsta's case can be so easily defended and decontrsucted.


hey look I changed "scum" to "town" in your sentence and it still makes perfect sense.
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#659
On January 27 2014 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wouldnt someone be more likely to defend themselves as scum because they dont want people to think that they are dodging?


People in general defend themselves. The question is, what mindset motivates you when you see a case from a pressured player on you to say "well, not even gonna respond to that. no need to engage the thread or move things along"?

imo this mindset is scum. VE is scum.
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#661
On January 27 2014 15:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
How many games of mafia have you played BH?

10+
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30+ if you count games where I rolled town. AND NO THAT WASNT A SCUMSLIP
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#665
i'm here! what's new oats
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#669
People aren't going to want to elect me after the fiasco in last game. I'd love being mayor but realistically it's not happening. I just need to convince whoever gets elected to lynch who I want to lynch, which should be signif easier than getting elected myself
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#677
On January 27 2014 15:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
What. TL mafia members dont hold grudges.


it's not grudges, it's just perception. The game after a game where I catch scum, everyone's all on my dick, and this game is the opposite
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#684
On January 27 2014 16:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 15:57 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 27 2014 15:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
What. TL mafia members dont hold grudges.


it's not grudges, it's just perception. The game after a game where I catch scum, everyone's all on my dick, and this game is the opposite

Each game is a new game, everything is new and white like fresh picked cotton


fair enough

##vote blazinghand

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ok im here via phone. i lied to Ve you dont think id tell someone if someone.else was blue. the qt is named scum qt because maybe if someone is scum they slip up and post in wrong qt.
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#816
On January 28 2014 02:39 Mocsta wrote:
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On January 28 2014 02:38 Blazinghand wrote:
ok im here via phone. i lied to Ve you dont think id tell someone if someone.else was blue. the qt is named scum qt because maybe if someone is scum they slip up and post in wrong qt.

Wait.. so you invited the 2nd person into the circle because you had a scum read on them?

at first it wsant a circle it was just me + him because i thouht.he.might.bescum and the qt would catch him. then i decided he was town
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#819
do u think if alak claimed vet to me id ever tell ne1 that? never. come on oats
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#822
On January 28 2014 02:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
seriously what the fuck.

well i wasnt planning on lying 2 thread
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#825
On January 28 2014 02:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
So what are your reads currently BH?


mocsta crack town. qp null not scum. thrawn... town?

store zerg townish

VE scum. 1+ scum in lurkers
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#826
On January 28 2014 02:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On January 28 2014 02:43 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 28 2014 02:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
seriously what the fuck.

well i wasnt planning on lying 2 thread


So you were just planning on lying to people in private where you hoped youd never be outted?


uh yes duh. wanted to see how ve would react. my options would be to tell him somthing truthful or a lie, which is better?
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#831
On January 28 2014 02:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
ok yeah those are the reads that make sense.
What do you think about BC?


bc has beennactive and shared his thought.process.with.thread. i don't think head pick right lunch today but dont lynch him today either
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#832
On January 28 2014 02:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
This could be 2 things.
1. BH is grasping at straws to avoid the lynch
2. BH is telling the truth.

BH, why didnt you say something earlier?

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#878
##unvote
##vote raynpelikoneet


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#933
qp obviously scum. contradictions. votes guy who lynch townread
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#941
On January 28 2014 06:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On January 28 2014 06:10 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On January 28 2014 06:07 Blazinghand wrote:
qp obviously scum. contradictions. votes guy who lynch townread


I've had a few pm convos with him and it makes me second-guess the scumread on him. Purely based on the thread I'd definitely call him scum though.

S owhat does he think in PM's then?
Share with the thread.

also he says no body pm him
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#945
On January 28 2014 06:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well put the friggin' PM's in the thread so we can see what this all is about for fucks sake!

this
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#949
On January 28 2014 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So where did you talk with him then?
He implies in thread noone has talked with him off thread.

also this
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#952
On January 28 2014 06:19 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
we talked in Zoom chat

I don't see why you're hammering me over this you're gonna make me change my mind about you over BC because this is really insignificant


are you threatening not to elect a mayor because he's pressing someone for info about a scumread that nobody else has? currently rayn's actions are townie as heck even if you personally find it inconvenient to share your reads and reasoning with the rest of the thread.
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#954
inf nobody else has about a scumread*
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#958
On January 28 2014 06:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Right now I'm okay with QP/BH/Bum lynches so I'm basically trying to figure out who is more town between the top two mayoral candidates if you guys really don't want to vote me mayor.


man this happens every damn game that i'm town. it's like "wow, bh is acting weird, he must be town" and then one or two people are like "well, nothing he has done makes sense from a scum perspective" and also "he never does this as scum" and somehow the herds of jubjubs are like "I know that logically speaking everything bh has done so far indicates he's town, and even moreso taking into account meta, but i'm not gonna let that stop me from trying to get him lynched"

every damn game
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#959
On January 28 2014 06:22 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 06:21 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 28 2014 06:19 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
we talked in Zoom chat

I don't see why you're hammering me over this you're gonna make me change my mind about you over BC because this is really insignificant


are you threatening not to elect a mayor because he's pressing someone for info about a scumread that nobody else has? currently rayn's actions are townie as heck even if you personally find it inconvenient to share your reads and reasoning with the rest of the thread.


no I'm not he's pressuring me over what I fucking used to communicate with how is that relevant? I told him a summary of the convo and that I had no records

if could be AIM or steam for all that matters, what is the relevance?


ok, fair enough, but how on earth does this make rayn scummy? Sure, maybe you think it doesn't matter, but what AT ALL is scummy about rayn pressing people for info? Why doesn't this give you a townread on rayn, actually, for trying to learn everything he can about the situation with a guy he thinks is scummy?
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#962
On January 28 2014 06:25 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 06:23 Blazinghand wrote:
On January 28 2014 06:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Right now I'm okay with QP/BH/Bum lynches so I'm basically trying to figure out who is more town between the top two mayoral candidates if you guys really don't want to vote me mayor.


man this happens every damn game that i'm town. it's like "wow, bh is acting weird, he must be town" and then one or two people are like "well, nothing he has done makes sense from a scum perspective" and also "he never does this as scum" and somehow the herds of jubjubs are like "I know that logically speaking everything bh has done so far indicates he's town, and even moreso taking into account meta, but i'm not gonna let that stop me from trying to get him lynched"

every damn game


I've never played with you so all that meta read stuff is meaningless to me.

I thought it was scummy how you defended QP before he could defend himself. I also thought it was 'weird' how you answered that one question directed at me, for me, like you were defending me before I could defend myself too.

A lot of VE's big post I liked convinced me too and I don't ever remember any significant refutation of it from you that stands out in my mind.


OK stop paying attention to me and answer rayn's question.
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#969
On January 28 2014 06:28 StorrZerg wrote:
(was typing this in a pm) but i really need to push this out now before the end of the day.

i feel good with BC
i read his filter
in the previous game he rolled mafia
the way he attacks people, and presents things is different
when he was mafia, he would talk more about policy
and general advice
and the way he would curse
was more aggresive
the way he curses now is more passive

So either he has drastically changed his play, or this is his town play, the game im refering to his tl mafia "time to die"


bc can be town and still have no idea what to do with the mayoral poewrs. vote rayn imo
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#970
On January 28 2014 06:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so he is saying something to you and then not doing what he says in thread.
So he is mafia.


yeah qp basically claimed scum. everyone vote rayn so he can lynch qp
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#974
On January 28 2014 06:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
##vote bloodyc0bbler

The swing on rayn doesnt sit with me well given how little time hes
A) had to catch up and
B) how buddy buddy he is with my top scum read.


is your top scumread me? are you really thinking that rayn replacing in as scum would immediatelly budy up with a bh who is being pushed for a lynch by a majority pant-head town? come on man. you're making associative tells between unflipped player.
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#978
wat
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#980
what's the count? i need to pull some shenannies
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#981
OH SHIT THE DEADLINE IS IN 15 MINUTS
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#985
ok ggtemp listen to me I know BC is in fact probably town but his reads are BAD. he doesn't know what's going on. you can't trust him with the power. I know it seems weird Rayn got so many votes but that's because I control a block of voters. we're a town circle and we made a QT and evyerhting and it makes sense. Rayn knows what to do as a mayor. we can trust him ot make the right decisions and to have good reads when he's town.
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#986
who else is here and not already voting for rayn?
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#991
On January 28 2014 06:47 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Vote me as mayor and I will consider him for an adviser position.


that swap won't happen in the next 12 minutes and you know it. we're out of time. it's gotta be rayn
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#994
we need one more for rayne! Come on someone


look thrawn get in here and manage this for me something came up at work
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#1007
I HAV EONLY ONE WILL AND TESTAMENT

ANYONE WHO DIDN'T VOTE FOR RAYN, AND WAS ON A SIDE WAGON

GET THEM

thrawn knows the truth of what happened today. i trust him. maybe i shouldn't; maybe i was blind when someone came to listen.

grack has done more than you think. he's active in pmland. tlak to him.
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#1036
Everything I did, I did for my people.
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so. qp still alive.
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#1072
the most interesting thing that happened was BC lynching storr over qp. I will like to hear what he has to say about that. I see the logic for lynching storr (last minute fake unvote perhaps)? but I am unclear on why storr OVER qp.
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oh wait was BC not interested in lynching qp at all
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#1075
kk
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#1080
Well I'm sure Storrzerg won't object to me posting our very bare-bones QT http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/QGdSn4Nm4iC

especially since he's dead and can't countermand me
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#1110
someone's trying to start a circus at least
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#1112
what super secret town but not so town circle
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#1204
On January 29 2014 06:25 QuantumPope wrote:
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On January 28 2014 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
so. qp still alive.


Hi. Would you like to elaborate?

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#1208
wait is quantumpope actually a perosn and not a smurf? he has a witter
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#1212
I basically agree with rayn's 2 casess on this page thoug hi can't take much credit for it. if I die pretend that those two cases are my autoeulogy
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#1217
On January 29 2014 06:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah rayn's normally pretty chill


i've never known rayn to get angry ever
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#1224
On January 29 2014 06:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On January 29 2014 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 29 2014 06:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 28 2014 22:59 Mocsta wrote:
I'm not looking to lynch yet.

what I want to see is more effort put in by QP, coag and bum and thepoofteh replacement.

basically we have 48hrs and right now I would be looking for someone out of that group specifically.

I'm also waiting for BC to shed more light on how the lynch went down. kush asked some valid questions I thought.



Basically the lynch went like this

BH and Rayn did a huge last spurt vote swing onto Rayn to try and get him to be mayor. People Continued to vote for me. The camps seemed very polarizing on the BH and Pope lynch. (although there was a point where VE was up for getting shanked).

Now, I was dead set on offing BH however, the way the last minute voting worked to ensure a BH lynch was fucking weird to me. Factor in a ton of players that I know are decent were all harping on me for my read of the guy so with those factors I opted to go elsewhere for a target. However I looked at the voting. The two worst offenders for making sure I won and my lynch choice got through was GG and Storr as one last second voted and the other jerked around in thread able to change things but did it too late.

Of these two I have had odd interactions with Storr, I know he was commonly read as scum this game by more than 1 person and his behaviour throughout the day / voting period kinda pushed me in his direction.


As for why I didn't lynch Pope. At the time I didn't trust (still dont fully) BH or Rayn. I have made that clear already. As I didn't trust them I didn't take their read into full consideration at the time nor did I have a ton of time to make the decision. However Rayn being pissed I didn't kill his choice and calling me scum for it is just weird.

Shut the fuck up. You are making shit up.
Now give me the logs you scum.



Why are you demanding them? Ive yet to see you offer me fucking information from your magic circle of trust. You also made a massive mistake in your post. I never refused to give you logs. I just haven't given you them because your being a demanding asshole. I literally have no reason to trust you currently. However I will share shit once the day has started. However unlike your demands I will post them publically.

for those of us who don't have bodyguards, it might be reasonable to post them now so we have some time to look at them before potentially dying yes
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#1241
On January 29 2014 06:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Also

I find it extremely odd BH wants to spam rush days currently as its fucking retarded.


get on my level
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#1242
boy quicktopic sure picked a good time to be down
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#1251
qp then coag /bum
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#1255
well I guess no need to lynch qp any more. qp was killed by vigi shot and bc claimed it to me during the night, though not who was delivering the shot
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#1258
silly qp you're dead stop talking
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#1261
I could see bum before coag
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#1266
are there really 2 bgs
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#1269
On January 29 2014 07:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nothing he does in this game makes any fucking sense at all.
BC is so mafia.

Why the hell would you as town make ME AND VE BG'S????
WHY?


hm, this is a reasonable point i guess. If you're scum you want to make your BGs people you were planning to nk anyways because.... actually i'm not sure why. Like you and VE don't make a huge amount of sense as BGs but as scum don't you want to make on of the BGs someone scummy but not lynchworthy so that it makes sense why you haven't been shot yet
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#1270
On January 29 2014 07:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The only answer is he is mafia and can shoot us as we can't be protected.
Why would mafia shoot the mayor? To kill some scrubs (as you should make weak town players BG's).
It does not make any sense at all.


wait bgs can't be protected
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#1275
On January 29 2014 07:11 Grackaroni wrote:
Oh can bodyguards not get protected?

it sounds like the kind of mechanic lsb would put into a game
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#1281
so BGs CAN be protected
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#1286
On January 29 2014 07:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I made you both bgs because I have doubts about you both as town and recognize mafia bgs protect me.

Also while you fuck around and scream shit. I shot pope.


BC claimed to me during N1 that he knew pope was going to die with the night post (basically) though he didn't explicitly say he was shooting him.
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#1287
EBWOP: day post

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#1289
9 town, 4 scum. if we mislynch today we go into the night as 8 town, 4 scum. D3 starts with 6 town, 4 scum, which is a loss for us unless we lynch the godfather
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#1290
so basically barring any hatters, vigis, or doctors, we can't screw up today unless we have a plant to specifically lynch the godfather the next day
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#1293
no you're all dumb!!!!!one
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#1298
On January 29 2014 07:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i have to be about your strongest townread because when i joined the game i did everything to stop you from getting lynched. So, why do you let me run around accusing BC when he has claimed vigi to you?


he did so only a few minutes before the deadline and it wasn't clear by what he said that he was the vigi until after the flip. also he didn't claim vigi (or that he was deliverying a shot) if you read my post carefully. here's what he said:

Blazinghand|Wor>30 so i was thinking about a QP lynch tomorrow and was wondering what your read on him was
31<Blazinghand|Wor>30 also coag
18<BloodyC0bbler> i think his lynch tommorrow wont happen tbh
31<Blazinghand|Wor>30 but QP is a better choice first
31<Blazinghand|Wor>30 really?
18<BloodyC0bbler> yea
<REDACTED>
31<Blazinghand|Wor>30 with your hammer we could push it through pretty quickly
18<BloodyC0bbler> likely, however Keep in mind I will never hammer until the day is mostly completed
31<Blazinghand|Wor>30 bah fine
18<BloodyC0bbler> as Im not going to rush cycles
31<Blazinghand|Wor>30 carry on!
18<BloodyC0bbler> i personally have no issues
18<BloodyC0bbler> lynching him
18<BloodyC0bbler> but I also doubt he will get lynched
18<BloodyC0bbler> then again, im sitting on a block of information I know you dont have
18<BloodyC0bbler> *shrugs
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#1299
if he literally said "I'm a vigi and i'm shooting QP" i'm not sure it would have been the right move to tell that to ANYONE anyways since there's really nothing wrong iwth shooting QP right
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#1300
On January 29 2014 07:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i have to be about your strongest townread because when i joined the game i did everything to stop you from getting lynched. So, why do you let me run around accusing BC when he has claimed vigi to you?


also just for record:

On January 29 2014 07:04 Blazinghand wrote:
well I guess no need to lynch qp any more. qp was killed by vigi shot and bc claimed it to me during the night, though not who was delivering the shot


hey look ere I am at 7:04 letting you know!

and then here's where your anyeurism starts:

On January 29 2014 07:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote:
Vote: bloodyc0bbler

this scum made me a BG.
BC IS SO VERY MAFIA!!!

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#1301
wow it's almost like I immediatley told the thread and you just weren't paying attention, and nothing is my fault, AS USUAL
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#1304
I just need to share this glorious smackdown

Blazinghand|Wor> lern 2 red
<raynpelikoneet> ?
<raynpelikoneet> so
<raynpelikoneet> yo uare just fucking let people accuse wrong people
<raynpelikoneet> blazinghand.. up your play if you are town
<raynpelikoneet> if this was a thread game you would not want bad cases in thread
<raynpelikoneet> why is this any different?
<Blazinghand|Wor> um
<Blazinghand|Wor> dude
<Blazinghand|Wor> i posted at 4 minutes after deadline
<Blazinghand|Wor> that bc told me about the qp shot
<Blazinghand|Wor> you just didn't read
<Blazinghand|Wor> lern 2 red
<Blazinghand|Wor> so i didn't "let" you do anything, you just had to be told more than once for some reason
<Blazinghand|Wor> raynpelikoneet... up your play if you are town
<Blazinghand|Wor> if this was a thread game you would not want to be not reading the thread
<Blazinghand|Wor> why is this any different?
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#1308
cool y
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#1311
I like grack's townreads
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#1314
so have we actually caught all the scum then basically? scumteam should just concede then
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#1330
On January 29 2014 09:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh yeah i have read that.
lol so Oats didn't even have a read on BH for real..


yeah his transition didn't seem very real to me
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#1331
quicktopic is back up!
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#1353
On January 29 2014 11:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
meh whatever.

Who wants to lynch Alak? I could totally lynch Alak here.


yeah oats is scum
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#1584
##vote balla24

his explanations for his d1 and n1 play (heh, "play") is lacking
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#1591
On January 30 2014 03:36 thrawn2112 wrote:
if anyone remembers time to die..

the GG blue-fishing stuff is very similar to how I treated BH in time to die. i'm talking about how I didn't have a scumread on BH, yet I released info (his claims) from our mason qt that I knew would make town want to lynch BH

wat
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#1594
<BH> what was gg doing
<thrawn> he PMd me
<thrawn> and balla
<BH> asking for roles?
<thrawn> "are you a vanilla mason or are you a role?"
<BH> lol
<BH> right
<thrawn> balla wasnt scumreading him
<BH> fuckin gg
<thrawn> but he posted it in the thread
<BH> yeah balla is scum
<thrawn> because "town should decide for themselves"
<thrawn> those were his exact words
<BH> when obviously he was... trying to drive a mislynch on ggtemp without taking credit.
<BH> clever.
<thrawn> i have them in my early early balla logs, and he posted that in thread
<thrawn> idk how I and everyone else missed that
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#1595
On January 30 2014 03:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
oh is it not instant majority?


it's only instant majority if BC wants it to be
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#1597
oh shoot
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but yeah balla obv scum
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#1601
we have as much time as we want, it's IML. why would his alignment determine how much time we have
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#1613
that's not bad logic actually
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#1617
join us!
On January 29 2014 08:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
as a note

balla is very very likely scum


you know you want to
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#1618
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#1619
boy i really hope i'm right about everything
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#1621
oh wait are all days gonna be 24 hours days now because we hammered too fast
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#1632
oh slam.

but yeah bum next
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#1650
your guys HQ can't even match up to my super secret QT
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#1653
On January 30 2014 06:10 Skanjab1s wrote:
Ptsshh, you wish your clubhouse was as cool as ours we have coasters

mm yeah i bet your counters get all dirty when youre done drinking from your glass

oh yeah you wish you had coasters right now dont you?


my group is the one that caught scum today, skan. I want you (and everyone in your group) to look around and ask yourself: "can I trust the people here? Is this really a circle of town?"

Also, I think we can fairly safely say BC is town. Let's all claim to him. Thoughts?
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#1722
To the people in my circle who are playing games: we lynched scum, we're not like super doops ahead or anything where this is a good use of our time. Landing a delicious punch on someone because you don't like his style isn't what I'm here for. I'm here to win. Get your shit together.
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#1727
On January 30 2014 16:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
Bh i promise that less time was wasted this way


[15:38] <raynpelikoneet> yeah i made a plan that would confirm oats as scum and make mafia nokill or confirm oats as town
[15:39] <raynpelikoneet> thrawn thought it would be a good idea to tell that to oats and troll me for 20h

So, my question is, thrawn,

On January 29 2014 08:09 thrawn2112 wrote:
[06:14] <thrawn> coag alak kush bum
[06:14] <thrawn> maybe skan or oats as alternates

that's my PoE list


oats on your scumlist...

but you said here http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=SWagrMXe that him being town was what let you decide to troll rayn

and yet, Balla didn't flip until...

On January 30 2014 05:41 LSB wrote:
Night 2



which means that you started this charade 16 hours ago at about 0:40 forum time, FIVE HOURS BEFORE BALLA FLIP. you claim that you trusted oats because balla flipping scum made you realize that yes, balla was trying to throw suspicion on a townie. So you and oats played around with rayn.

And yet you started htis game when oats had been listed as an alternate scumread for you, AND the thing that you said convinced you Oats was town hadn't happened yet.

So either Rayn is lying about the troll starting 20 hours ago (5 hours before the start of the night, when your oats townread reason happened), or you're lying about something.

like the fact that you aren't scum.

thrawn.
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#1728
I'm sure the obs QT is loving this
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#1731
thrawn has linked me to a qt with rayn, he, and oats posting in it where the postin begins AFTER the flip. I retract my case. not sure what rayn was thinking.
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#1733
+ Show Spoiler [thrawn and BH] +

<thrawn> it happened
<Blazinghand> link the qt
<Blazinghand> link it now
<thrawn> at 4pm my time
<Blazinghand> link me to it now
<thrawn> http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/HmAQRXqTfCCS
<thrawn> started roughly at 6pm ET
<thrawn> read my thread post
<Blazinghand> weird
<thrawn> you have no idea how much of an ass rayn was being to me
<thrawn> just now in irc
<thrawn> i changed mind about oats
<Blazinghand> i see
<thrawn> tired to talk to rayn about the read
<thrawn> he was being a complete ass and not willing to listen
<thrawn> so that's fine
<thrawn> i'll just waste 20 min of his time
<thrawn> instead of wasting a whole cylce of my time
<Blazinghand> ah
<thrawn> trying to traop a person i'm townreading
<thrawn> aslo i'm very drunk lol
<thrawn> ant is was very entertaining
<thrawn> but i meant what i said about less time being wasted this way
<thrawn> *if oats is twon of course
<thrawn> if oatas is scum
<thrawn> then i deserver anything rayn will sy about me
<Blazinghand> what do you do for a living?
<thrawn> ups
<Blazinghand> or are you a student
<thrawn> not student currently
<thrawn> in hiatus
<Blazinghand> i see
<Blazinghand> winter break is always nice
<Blazinghand> what kind of liquor do you like
<thrawn> rum
<thrawn> whiskey
<thrawn> not vodka
<Blazinghand> oh nice
<Blazinghand> dark liquors
<Blazinghand> a manly drink
<thrawn> yes
<thrawn> same taste for beers


+ Show Spoiler [mocsta and BH] +
<Blazinghand> does thrawn seem drunk to you in irc in the past hour at all at any time?
<Mocsta> no
<Mocsta> he was def drunk 14hrs ago
<Mocsta> but not 1 hr ago
<Blazinghand> and you spoke with him at this time?
<Mocsta> i started talking to him 2 hrs ago
<Blazinghand> when was the last time he had to write a coherent sentence?
<Mocsta> the rayn troll happened 1 hr ago
<Blazinghand> he's acting drunk to me right now. not sure if real.
<Mocsta> well
<Mocsta> he doesnt ever type sentences
<Mocsta> but he has much less spelling mistakes in general when sober
<Mocsta> [15:43] <thrawn> then i said "LMAO" [15:43] <thrawn> and he didnt respiond [15:43] <thrawn> like 30 min ago or whatever [15:43] <thrawn> he is really really really mad [15:43] <thrawn> SOOOO mad [15:44] <thrawn> liek i really think he won't talk to me for like amonth [15:44] <thrawn> lmao [15:44] <thrawn> mocsta [15:45] <thrawn> tell me true [15:45] <thrawn> did i fuck uo by doing this lol [15:45] <thrawn> maybe i will regret it when i'm sober
<Mocsta> [15:45] <thrawn> but for now i am still glad i did it
<Mocsta> thats 15min ago
<Mocsta> doesnt read drunk to me


+ Show Spoiler [Oats and BH] +
20<Blazinghand>30 does thrawn seem drunk to you in irc in the past hour at all at any time? 
18<Oatsmaster> no
18<Oatsmaster> for some reason
18<Oatsmaster> he didnt
18<Oatsmaster> its weird yeah
20<Blazinghand>30 why is it weird for him to not be drunk
18<Oatsmaster> cause he is normally drunk/high near to it
18<Oatsmaster> hehe
20<Blazinghand>30 he's acting drunk to me right now. not sure if real.
18<Oatsmaster> what is he saying
20<Blazinghand>30 that's all I needed to know, thanks
18<Oatsmaster> k?
20<Blazinghand>30 anything interesting or unique about how he types whilw drunk?
18<Oatsmaster> uh
18<Oatsmaster> i asked him
18<Oatsmaster> "are you actually not drunk right now?"
18<Oatsmaster> lol
18<Oatsmaster> thrawn
18<Oatsmaster> i was like
18<Oatsmaster> thrawn
18<Oatsmaster> maybe 2 hours ago
18<Oatsmaster> thrawn
18<Oatsmaster> i'm sobering up


+ Show Spoiler [rayn and BH] +
<Blazinghand> has he acted drunk
<Blazinghand> in the past hour
<Blazinghand> to you
<raynpelikoneet> nope


everyone confirms:" thrawn is not drunk

then, thrawn says to me:
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<Blazinghand> prob
<Blazinghand> so i posted a case against you in the thread
<Blazinghand> apparently the trolling with rayn and oats began 5 hours before the balla flip
<Blazinghand> before you had an oats townread
<Blazinghand> thoughts?
<thrawn> hmm?
<thrawn> noooo
<thrawn> it didntt
<thrawn> it happened
<Blazinghand> link the qt
<Blazinghand> link it now
<thrawn> at 4pm my time
<Blazinghand> link me to it now
<thrawn> http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/HmAQRXqTfCCS
<thrawn> started roughly at 6pm ET
<thrawn> read my thread post
<Blazinghand> weird
<thrawn> you have no idea how much of an ass rayn was being to me
<thrawn> just now in irc
<thrawn> i changed mind about oats
<Blazinghand> i see
<thrawn> tired to talk to rayn about the read
<thrawn> he was being a complete ass and not willing to listen
<thrawn> so that's fine
<thrawn> i'll just waste 20 min of his time
<thrawn> instead of wasting a whole cylce of my time
<Blazinghand> ah
<thrawn> trying to traop a person i'm townreading
<thrawn> aslo i'm very drunk lol
<thrawn> ant is was very entertaining
<thrawn> but i meant what i said about less time being wasted this way
<thrawn> *if oats is twon of course
<thrawn> if oatas is scum
<thrawn> then i deserver anything rayn will sy about me
<Blazinghand> what do you do for a living?
<thrawn> ups
<Blazinghand> or are you a student
<thrawn> not student currently
<thrawn> in hiatus
<Blazinghand> i see
<Blazinghand> winter break is always nice
<Blazinghand> what kind of liquor do you like
<thrawn> rum
<thrawn> whiskey
<thrawn> not vodka
<Blazinghand> oh nice
<Blazinghand> dark liquors
<Blazinghand> a manly drink
<thrawn> yes
<thrawn> same taste for beers


so basically thrawn conveniently gets drunk when I pressure him (note that moments earlier he is not drunk, and nobody else thinks he's drunk)

Whatever thrawn's doing, he's working against the town and faking drunkenness to dodge pressure. he's scum.
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#1735
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6rKdZz5E

Remember, nobody found thrawn drunk at all, even though they were chatting with him at this moment. in my log, he's typing completely normally until he needs to dodge some pressure from me asking him about rayn and then he's like "lol i'm drunk, suddenly everything has typos".

I see this kind of thing all the time, he's scum, lynch him, that's my last will
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#1737
thrawn has until my lunch break at work to refute my case and use his "5000 hours of logs" to convince me he's town and catch scum. If he's really town, and he really has all these logs and all these reads, it should be trivial.

but he's not and he doesn't so i'll come back and whoever is alive tomorrow will lynch thrawn
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#1740
On January 30 2014 17:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
uh I dont understand why thrawn is scum BH.

the fact that he's blatantly playing against town or faking drunkenness to avoid pressure not good enough? unless you have a scumread on yourself or rayn how can you even square that circle. Thrawn scum.
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#1746
On January 30 2014 17:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
There are like 4-5 spelling errors after he says he is drunk and 2 before he says that he is drunk.
not anywhere near conclusive
What exactly is thrawn faking being drunk to avoid exactly? I didnt see any kind of pressure in those quotes.


are you retreaded?

<thrawn> trying to traop a person i'm townreading
<thrawn> aslo i'm very drunk lol
<thrawn> ant is was very entertaining
<thrawn> but i meant what i said about less time being wasted this way
<thrawn> *if oats is twon of course
<thrawn> if oatas is scum
<thrawn> then i deserver anything rayn will sy about me

this is more typos than everything we spoke about earlier combined. he just pours them on suddenly.

also i posted a case against him in the thread. come on man. get with the picture.
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#1748
On January 30 2014 17:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
You have 0 pressure on him BH wtf?


the timing thing with rayn and you where he couldn't have had a townread on you before balla flipped
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#1750
On January 30 2014 17:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is he playing against town?? ? ?
BH YOU ARENT MAKING ANY SENSE


he wasted tons of rayn's time in conjunction with you literally to troll. And he thinks rayn is town. Fuck man, YOU think rayn is town. What's wrong with you people?
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#1752
On January 30 2014 17:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
fine 7 errors. Didnt you retract your case?


a bunch of errors, 7 errors, suddenly clustered aroudn the time he claims he's drunk and all the people he's chatting with in irc don't think he's drunk. a time right when I pressure him. it's obviously a show.
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#1753
when someone who's town has an objection to this case i'll respond to it.
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#1757
On January 30 2014 17:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
YOU RETRACTED YOUR CASE BH
THERE IS NO CASE


sorry timestamps didn't copy properly here let me help

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as you can see, this was posted while i was posting the "retract' post. he hasn't read it. he claimed drunkennnes BEFORE he realized i'd retracted it. he thought it was under pressure
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#1759
2355 my time = 1655 forum time. in any case, that one point is worth clarifying but as usual I will not be paying more attention to oats. good night guys! lynch thrawn lynch thrawn lynch thrawn lynch thrawn lynch thrawn lynch thrawn lynch thrawn
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#1764
On January 30 2014 17:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
im sorry but in this case i honestly felt like wasting rayn's time was a pro-town action. dont any of you pretend you've never had similar thoughts.


<thrawn> so i'm just giving rayn what he wants
<thrawn> so i can laugh at him after wards. i know it's anti town. buti am sick of rayn's over confidence
<thrawn> and arrogance
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#1827
so what's new
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#1828
3 hours left
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#1832
everyone claim to BC
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#1834
Not you you're obviously scum
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#1837
don't lynch thrown l

am on phone. This is my true epitaph
instead u sho u of lynch going forwards skanjab bum kush.

skanjab obviously not playing for town. same with bum just piggyback ed off BC not hunting.
kush is being scum kush. you'll never see town kush this conf.
don't lynch coag. he's not readable; we just have to accept that we lose if he rolled scum.

moc rayn BC thrawn : town

honestly even with the fake drunkenness I'm not on thrawn. he's low on list. Do not lynch. unless new info

If I'm alive in the morning will update on oats. for now he's just a jubtown. what a jub. but town.
my circle is moc Grack thrawn rayn. I trust Grack the least
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#1839
nah we lynch u first ez
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#1871
I took a hit and was saved last night. Woot.
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#1874
It would seem that they are. In any case, Kush gave his life for me, so I owe it to him to reread his filters and reads. he was right about where the nk was going, he could be right about more.
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#1876
On January 31 2014 09:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Everyone who hasn`t claimed start claiming to me and BH please.

If you have any outstanding checks or prots or what not you havent revealed please share them now in pms


I strongly concur with this.
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#1877
btw not interested in lynching skan today after all. maybe bum. gonna think on it.
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#1885
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=BfVFe9Rb ungated
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#1887
principle? or is Austria just weird
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#1894
Do tell. pm me.
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#2007
hello
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#2009
BC an I agree, do not hammer coag. repeat: do not hammer coag
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#2010
give me some time. I need to parse the rayn/thrawn situation
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#2022
On February 01 2014 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 02:43 Grackaroni wrote:
No I'm not sure why Thrawn thinks you are scum. I think it's based on you two knowing Kush was medic.

Does it look like that's what he is saying? Where do you base that on?

i'm pretty sure that's what thrawn is saying. from what he has pmed me, his case is:

1. rayn was the only not-confirmed-town who knew kush was the doctor
2. scum would never shoot kush unless they thought he was a powerful blue role since he is lynchbait
3. therefore rayn is scum

thrawn feel free to correct me if I have misunderstood you here
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#2025
On February 01 2014 02:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That alone makes thrawn mafia. He is not that stupid. He can't possibly think that i would do that as mafia.
I am 100% sure thrawn as town can't possibly be that stupid.


ok, let's focus on catching the other two scum right now, bearing in mind that you think thrawn is either very stupid (unlikely) or mafia. how does that sound?
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#2028
On February 01 2014 02:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 02:46 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 01 2014 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 01 2014 02:43 Grackaroni wrote:
No I'm not sure why Thrawn thinks you are scum. I think it's based on you two knowing Kush was medic.

Does it look like that's what he is saying? Where do you base that on?

i'm pretty sure that's what thrawn is saying. from what he has pmed me, his case is:

1. rayn was the only not-confirmed-town who knew kush was the doctor
2. scum would never shoot kush unless they thought he was a powerful blue role since he is lynchbait
3. therefore rayn is scum

thrawn feel free to correct me if I have misunderstood you here

1. thrawn did too.
2. see (1)
3. see (1)


i'm not saying his points are inherently correct, I'm just saying i'm pretty sure that what I wrote is his case
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#2029
On February 01 2014 02:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
+ thrawn also thought kush was doccing me.


this is actually somewhat interesting info. who did kush tell you he was doccing
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#2042
On February 01 2014 03:05 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 03:00 bumatlarge wrote:
Well you are active, but there is no interest in your posting. I said demotivated before, but that isn't the right word for it. More or less disinterested. Coag is an easy vote, but aside from that your play has been whimsical. Are you playing different off camera or something?

Oh that's actually not that bad. I am disinterested because Balla was killed and I'm stuck on a mafia team with coagulation.


works for me

##vote Grackaroni
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#2050
Like, for what it's worth, if rayn were in fact scum and kush told rayn that kush was a medic, rayn would probably tell bc anyways, even if he was going to shoot kush. After all, you can reasonably assume (remember the part where I told everyone to claim to bc?) that BC knows everyone's roles. Imagine how the conversation goes.

BC: Hey Kush, what are you?
Kush: Hey BC, I am the Medic.
BC: Okay, cool. What were your actions so far? What's your action tonight?
Kush: X and Y.
BC:

What does BC ask next here? What BC asks next, obviously, is who else have you told?.

He will ask and find out that Rayn knows, and that Kush told rayn he was saving Z (or whatever). Scum rayn, anticipating this, tells BC that Kush is Doc (revealing no new info to BC, who already knows everything, including that rayn knows), to look good.

Now, I don't think this is what happened; I think rayn is town. I'm just saying a scumread on rayn is not logically inconsistent with knowing rayn told BC kush was doc; rayn couldn't have known that kush hadn't claimed to BC.
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#2052
On February 01 2014 03:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol BH, read my post. kush didn't even trust BC.. he thought BC WAS FAKECLAIMING VIGI!!

wait really

fuckin kush
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#2054
in case anyone somehow doubts BC's alignment, there's no counterclaim for vigi, BC MUST be town. come on guys.
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#2058
On February 01 2014 03:27 Grackaroni wrote:
If Coag flips town you guys can lynch me. Once he flips scum it should be pretty clear that Rayn has just been trying to save his kp and pushing whatever townie he can.


man this is shit logic, if coag flips town we only have one lynch left and you yourself should in theory know that you're town, so why would you even say this? if coag flips town you're gonna throw the game? seriously?
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#2060
##unvote

Ok, how do you tell town coag from scum coag? I'm bad at it and would like to know-- both to help solidify my reads this game, and for future reference. Please let me know, grack.
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#2067
On February 01 2014 03:34 Grackaroni wrote:
well the not posting the badge looks pretty bad, but I just can't find a scum team without Coag on it.
Oats - town
bum - probably town
Slam - town
BH - confirmed town and obv town before that
BC confirmed town and was also pretty likely town before that
Thrawn- really unlikely for Thrawn to be mafia


Ok, so it's entirely based on PoE? there are 11 people alive right now, so you need to make 8 townreads on people who are not coag to make coag into for sure scum. you've only listed 6 townreads (+1 for yourself)

so, from what you've just listed, a skan/rayn/mocsta scumteam is possible. Even if I had the same reads as you I would not be convinced.

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#2069
On February 01 2014 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##Vote Coagulation


So I don't have a good handle on reading coag. any advice?
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#2072
On February 01 2014 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Neither of Mocsta/Skan is mafia.


i didn't say they were, i'm saying grack's conclusion doesn't follow his premise.
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#2074
On February 01 2014 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 03:38 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 01 2014 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##Vote Coagulation


So I don't have a good handle on reading coag. any advice?

When he is town he tries to post something useful.
When he is mafia he posts absolutely nothing of value, like here.


yeah that's true he's not even trying. I'm down to lynch coag. Let me just consult with BC first.
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#2090
On February 01 2014 04:02 Coagulation wrote:
guys im town


surely you understand why this post is not alignment-indicative, right coag?
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#2093
On February 01 2014 04:04 bumatlarge wrote:
Look at these bullshit votes. He's not going to be hammered because everyone not on him is likely town.

so you're thinking slam skan grack scumteam?
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#2097
On February 01 2014 04:06 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 04:05 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 01 2014 04:05 Skanjab1s wrote:
Coag post your seal

Which seal will it be?


Babies or the flashy round one, either works.


is seal coag's version of STARSENSES?
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#2100
On February 01 2014 04:11 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 04:10 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 01 2014 04:06 Skanjab1s wrote:
On February 01 2014 04:05 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 01 2014 04:05 Skanjab1s wrote:
Coag post your seal

Which seal will it be?


Babies or the flashy round one, either works.


is seal coag's version of STARSENSES?

lol no he has a seal that certifies his townieness that he is only willing to post as town


yeah that's what I meant. well if he doesn't post it we lynch him then
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#2102
i'll do some thinking! we still have like 24 hours :D
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#2106
if he's scum, he wont' post it, and we'll lynch him.
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If he posts it as scum, then he'll have lost the ability to use it in a trustworthy fashion in the future since people will know he's used it as scum before. I don't think he'd be willing to do that.
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#2113
##vote coagulation
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#2114
i summon rayn!
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#2117
BY THE POWER OF RA I SUMMON RAYN
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#2119
shazam
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#2135
that wasn't so bad
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#2136
WELL, I think I have this game figured out. last 2 scum will be ez.
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#2138
i will mr skanjab I will
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#2148
So, I'm obviously getting shot tonight. There's no way around it. Rayn and I had a plan where rayn would claim cop in my place at 0600 forum time and pretend he was confused abotu the deadline, but rayn has conveniently not showed up for it. probably my mistake in trying to trust someone else in this. So, I'm the cop, here are my results so far:

QP - Green
Skanjab - Green

This is why I've been kinda defending skanjab so far. Kush did a good job saving me, but it's the end of the line for me. Remember, skan isn't necessarily town since he coudl be gf, but it makes most sense to hunt scum that's not skan, and potentially if we lynch a gf it means we can trust skan to be town.

anyone around?
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#2150
Thanks. Well, I'm going to go get lunch. I'll be available via phone. I still think rayn is probably town but him bailing on our plan is a mark against him. good luck guys
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#2151
In general in terms of scumminess:

oats/grack/bum

thrawn/slam

everyone else I'm somewhat sure is town. skan is left out of this because of green check.

i discussed plans about slam with some people
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#2153
lynch grack first probs
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#2157
i told bc and thats it

not that it matters scum would shoot me tonit n e ways
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#2159
On February 02 2014 06:55 Grackaroni wrote:
yeah but there isn't much explanation for you being shot last night.


i didn't tell anyone I was the cop, not a soul, until after kush saved me
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February 08 2014 05:14 GMT
#2600
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sadly though mocsta had me totes fooled. Every other scum though you gotta get on mocs level
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February 08 2014 16:45 GMT
#2636
On February 09 2014 00:47 bumatlarge wrote:
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On February 08 2014 19:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On February 08 2014 15:29 bumatlarge wrote:
I also slipped in te "coag sucks" QT, I should not have known mocsta got RBd. Luckily BC never read it, and grack wasn't in a position to verify it. Mocsta blew this game open for me. I doubt we would have come so close without him. We made a few major mistakes. The kush/BH night was an error, we thought We could shoot through kush prot, or mocsta did I didn't ask questions. The Roleblock claim obviously cost us, we didn't think Rayn would get a note. I probably should have shot slam roleblocked thrawn. I didn't know thrawn and oats were in such contact.

Also, lylo you can't really base reads off what they say that cycle. Mafia will mimic a town fairly well. It's much easier to catch them earlier. I thought what I said when you said was pretty much what I would have said if I was town. PMs were kind of misused I think. Mocsta benefitted greatly off them, and I felt if I had been present earlier I could have done more.

Where were Slams bombs?!


sadly I did notice it. The only person I mentioned this outright to was mocsta and maybe rayn or thrawn?

Like no one could remember if they had told you at that point -_-


When in doubt, fake a PM with a dead person. BH didn't reveal any of that shit. Neither did slam tell me anything, not sure if pointed that out. Dead people are scums best pals.


I told BC where where the bombs were. no need need to need to tell need to tell thread thoughh
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