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Lynch QuantumPope on D2!
Here is why:
I already pointed out the early game of QP in one of my first posts. Here:
On January 28 2014 03:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:#Vote: raynpelikoneetBH is going to be a mislynch. I will lynch QuantumPope who is really likely to be scum. Generic list of reads with no reasoning. Then he calls people out for not giving reasoning. Instead of talking with BC about his reads / lynch targets he calls out other people. Alot of (well pretty much all after the first post which was bad) his comments are defensive and imply inherent guilt and insecureness. Like; Show nested quote +I came in with bleh contributions that I backed up to the best of my ability. My vanishing act, which I do not agree with, was due to previous commitments but I try to remain as active as possible. I asked you to inquire about my scum reads yet I have yet to see you ask about them. Wh00ttt? Points out his own posting is bad.. He is okay with people calling him out of vanishing but it wasn'treally vanishing?!?! Last sentence does not really say anything, because he didn't really even discuss any reads with BC. It was just "why those and not these people" and then the conversation ended, at least on his part. Show nested quote +Long posts that doesn't seem to say anything, for instance the one I am quoting, doesn't really do anything for town. I could write a 2000 word post going into specifics of various individuals in the thread but I find it posts like that only hinder town. Gratz you just did that with your 1st post.
When he comes back in thread he makes this post:
On January 28 2014 05:54 QuantumPope wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2014 04:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
anyone talked to QP in PM/irc? also i would like to see sum bum logs if someone wouldn't mind sending some Not a soul has spoken to me. I feel like I've missed out on a significant amount chatter behind the scenes but apparently a lot of people are making assumptions based on PMs. I've been trying to give the best reads possible with the lack of information. In my opinion, I am trying to play this as honestly as possible with giving all my reads to the thread. If anything I'm just disappointed that you don't seem to be reading me as town BC. My reads have changed though and I'll give my final scum reads written here: Skanjab1s - Claiming to be PMing people who haven't been involved yet I have yet to see anything from him so that makes me suspicious. Not liking his "experience" reads, especially on a player just joining the fray.
StorrZerg - Seems to be taking a lot of his content to PM and not sharing it with the rest of the crowd. His reasoning for not voting BC just seems off to me and I feel like I'm not getting the whole picture of Storr's play.
tehpoofter - Max lurk.
VE - feels fine in my books but I don't really know why he doesn't think BC is town.
bum - Just seems to be reading off of BC's reads but he really didn't give explanations for his own. Did not enjoy this.
As for my vote: BC seems extremely active today now and his specific attacks on people who are claiming things in private seem very town to me. While I don't agree with his lynch on BH or his read on myself, I think his overall reads are leading town in the right direction. He seems to know the majority of the players in this game and seems to have well established reads on them. VE would be my second choice. ##vote BloodyC0bblerThis post was much more rushed than my last one but unfortunately I don't have time to do much more than this. I'd be happy to answer any questions you have either in thread or PM.
What does this post say?
- VisceraEyes is scummy because he feels fine and does not trust BC (where did this come from?)
- bumatlarge is scummy because he seems to be trusting BC's reads
- but then he votes BC for mayor?? why is bum then scum?
- Votes BC for mayor and he does not even like BC's lynch targets!!!
- VisceraEyes is his second pick for mayor, BUT VE IS MAFIA?!?!
- Gives some generic crap about BC's reads (which are bad and not well reasoned in the first place)
- Is happy to answer any questions in thread or in PM's but when people ask him stuff does not answer anything!!
Everything this dude has done is full of contradictions and nothing makes sense.
QuantumPope is 100% mafia!
After this you lynch BC, because of his shit he pulled off at the end of D1 and his crap reads.
Next to come is scumatlarge.
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On January 28 2014 22:59 Mocsta wrote:
I'm not looking to lynch yet.
what I want to see is more effort put in by QP, coag and bum and thepoofteh replacement.
basically we have 48hrs and right now I would be looking for someone out of that group specifically.
I'm also waiting for BC to shed more light on how the lynch went down. kush asked some valid questions I thought.
Basically the lynch went like this
BH and Rayn did a huge last spurt vote swing onto Rayn to try and get him to be mayor. People Continued to vote for me. The camps seemed very polarizing on the BH and Pope lynch. (although there was a point where VE was up for getting shanked).
Now, I was dead set on offing BH however, the way the last minute voting worked to ensure a BH lynch was fucking weird to me. Factor in a ton of players that I know are decent were all harping on me for my read of the guy so with those factors I opted to go elsewhere for a target. However I looked at the voting. The two worst offenders for making sure I won and my lynch choice got through was GG and Storr as one last second voted and the other jerked around in thread able to change things but did it too late.
Of these two I have had odd interactions with Storr, I know he was commonly read as scum this game by more than 1 person and his behaviour throughout the day / voting period kinda pushed me in his direction.
As for why I didn't lynch Pope. At the time I didn't trust (still dont fully) BH or Rayn. I have made that clear already. As I didn't trust them I didn't take their read into full consideration at the time nor did I have a ton of time to make the decision. However Rayn being pissed I didn't kill his choice and calling me scum for it is just weird.
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In regards to my shitty last post I was just trying to get something in before the deadline. The day deadline came at a very bad time in regards to my work and personal life. I thought it would be better to post and get my vote in then just sit back in the shadows and lurk, which to many of you seems to be okay as tehpoofter did that the entire day.
On January 28 2014 06:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
that dude is 100% scum.
I don't understand how I "claimed" scum. You seem like a person who deals with absolutes in this thread but I've gone back and looked at some of your previous games and you're not as aggressive as this. Any reason for the change of play?
You know who also deals in absolutes? Sith.
I will agree with you my reads are not the best as it seems like everyone here seems to have a rapport with each other while I'm on the outside trying to figure out exactly how everyone is
On January 28 2014 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
so. qp still alive.
Hi. Would you like to elaborate?
On January 28 2014 22:54 Skanjab1s wrote:
I'd like to lynch QP or Coag at the moment.
You appear not to like my verbiage but I don't like dealing in absolutes. I don't have any perfect information that would allow me to make those sorts of calls. I would like to hear your reasoning on Coag. The read on Coag just seems like a random bandwagon.
I apologize for the bloody nose bumatlarge but I'd love to just understand why you think I'm 100% scum according to your post. I agree that it is a weak post but I feel like if you could elaborate I'd understand your stance a little better.
I appreciate the aggressive stances on my "claiming mafia" but those against me absolutely incorrect. I'm trying to give my best reads possible here and figure out this game.
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Blazinghand
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On January 29 2014 06:25 QuantumPope wrote:Hi. Would you like to elaborate?
make peace with whatever gods you believe in
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I don't have a problem with your lengthy writing, QP, I just think that you're incredibly scummy, for reasons rayn and other people have pointed out.
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On January 29 2014 06:26 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 06:25 QuantumPope wrote:On January 28 2014 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:
so. qp still alive. Hi. Would you like to elaborate? make peace with whatever gods you believe in
I carry no beliefs. If this the way that town wants to go this day my whatever god you may believe in have mercy on your soul.
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On January 29 2014 06:28 Skanjab1s wrote:
I don't have a problem with your lengthy writing, QP, I just think that you're incredibly scummy, for reasons rayn and other people have pointed out.
You clearly pointed out my writing in your attack on me and did not mention anyone else's reads, though that can be assumed. Now you seem to have no problem with my writing?
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Blazinghand
United States25553 Posts
wait is quantumpope actually a perosn and not a smurf? he has a witter
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Here is why bumatlarge is mafia:
This is literally everything he has done in this game:
- Made a mayor campaign, but shared no reads at all.
- Suddenly uncampaigned and voted for BC.
Okay, what were his reasons:
- demotivated (bla bla)
- Agreed with BC's reads and they shared smae reads/lynch targets.
Let's look at the only real reason:
I asked bumatlarge what were these lynch targets they agreed on with BC. He told me Mocsta and GGTeMpLaR. I asked him to prove it with logs or PM's, because there is nothing about it in thread. He says he has no logs from irc because of some reason. BC refuses to give me those logs.
Anyways, this is what was discussed on Mocsta and GGTeMpLaR:
Original Message From bumatlarge: Yeah pretty much, i dont have the IRC logs. I've spoken with him since then. It is possible is was trolling as town, but I didn't like it. Show nested quote +Original Message From raynpelikoneet: Like that was your reason for suspecting Mocsta? All of it? Original Message From bumatlarge: The GGtemplar read was discussed in the thread. Original Message From BloodyC0bbler: well he could if there were no witness' lol Original Message From bumatlarge: I don't, but he can't deny he did it. Original Message From BloodyC0bbler: do you have the record of that convo with mocsta btw? Original Message From bumatlarge: yeah Original Message From BloodyC0bbler: on irc? Original Message From bumatlarge: Sweet, if you get mayor over me, consider mocsta. He faked his name to me, and thats ok if you are trolling, but when i started talking to him he didnt correct himself. He logged out and then logged in as his own name. Original Message From BloodyC0bbler:
im busy next weekend, and my activity will be in spurts during the week based on work, but i currently have 0 plays between today and next weekend aside from dnd tuesday.
That leaves most of monday, wednesday, thursday and friday to play when not at work.
[quote] Original Message From raynpelikoneet: 1 & 2) - I wanted to lynch QP and only QP. Did not consider lynching anyone else. - I considered BC scum since his refusal to talk with me about QP and his terrible lynch on Storr. - I consider(ed) you scum because all you did was had a mayor campaign, then you dropped it for no apparent reason and just voted for BC with no reasoning. - I considered Storr mafia because BC had him as #2 scumread but Storr refused to elect me and wanted to elect BC (seems pretty stupid given he is BC's top 2 scumread - apparently he was just stupid) 3) thrawn + thread. Blazinghand is clearly town for what i said many times in thread. I would love to have your logs with BC and hopefully one of you guys have them and send them to me. Otherwise it's really goddamn fishy because BC has not really implied his interest in lynching either Mocsta/GG, ever. Original Message From bumatlarge: Can you give me 1) Who you were going to lynch 2) People you considered 3) People you were in contact with about these I'm assuming number 1 and 2 are among these On January 28 2014 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
QP
BC
Storr
bum
ezpz But I want your clarification. I know you are thinking what I am thinking. I wasn't going to be too active, so there was no reason to stay in the race, especially if I know it wasn't going to gain momentum. I voted BC because he seemed to be on board with lynching mocsta or templar. Obviously things changed since then and I want to know who he else he was considering. BH and QP?
Okay so bumatlarge's reasoning for suspecting Mocsta is "he did fake someone to me in irc".
SERIOUSLY WTF?!?! That's the stupidest reason ever.
Reasons to suspect GGTeMpLaR; "It was discussed in thread". NO IT WAS NOT! YOU NEVER DISCUSSED ANYTHING IN THREAD!
One more thing, look at why and how bumatlarge votes for BC for mayor.
His reasons are "he shares a scumread on GG and Mocsta and wants to lynch them".
That's not correct, BEFORE bum votes for BC, BC has said he will lynch Blazinghand and the only other person he considers is Storrzerg. bumatlarge's story does not add up.
Here are the posts BC lays out his reads the last time before bum votes for him and bum's vote:
On January 28 2014 02:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
OK heres how things stand.
I have suitably been given enough Information via thread and irc to consolidate my read for the day.
IF elected, barring any shenanigans between now and the deadline, I will lynch BH.
The reasons for this are simple.
First off he "shared" Alakaslams role for no reason to VE. He has been unable to justify this to anyone I have talked to or to myself. Its day 1, and its fucked up that he would do it as town.
Secondly. He said he was planning on going out of his way to find a suitable candidate for the day and push them as he didn't want to be elected. He has then with "prodding" decided he was going to actually run. However this was over a day between these posts and he never at any point recommended anyone vote for one of the other candidates.
His scum read of VE is incredibly weird. He apparently trolled VE which got VE understandably confused. Then based on irc/in thread BH thinks VE is scum primarily in regards to a case Mocsta made. But never provided a new point of his own. He never clarified why he believes one of mocsta and VE has to be scum and the other town and how he made that differation.
Also his entire play has changed from the last 3 games hes played. In LXIII he was a third party assassin. In the first version of this game he was a town mason. In both those games he played a clearly distinct style. He is now showing a third style of play this game. Given he went third party, town, and now we have a third play style I am suspecting its scum.
The only other person I am currently considering as a suspect is storrzerg. His interactions with me were incredibly weird, and i know the general opinion of him from those he has played with before is that hes scum. I also know hes been far more active in pms than the thread thats fishy as fuck.
On January 28 2014 02:50 bumatlarge wrote:
##Vote BC
See the timestamps. Right!
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On January 29 2014 06:30 Blazinghand wrote:
wait is quantumpope actually a perosn and not a smurf? he has a witter
I am actually a person.
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On January 29 2014 06:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2014 22:59 Mocsta wrote:
I'm not looking to lynch yet.
what I want to see is more effort put in by QP, coag and bum and thepoofteh replacement.
basically we have 48hrs and right now I would be looking for someone out of that group specifically.
I'm also waiting for BC to shed more light on how the lynch went down. kush asked some valid questions I thought. Basically the lynch went like this BH and Rayn did a huge last spurt vote swing onto Rayn to try and get him to be mayor. People Continued to vote for me. The camps seemed very polarizing on the BH and Pope lynch. (although there was a point where VE was up for getting shanked). Now, I was dead set on offing BH however, the way the last minute voting worked to ensure a BH lynch was fucking weird to me. Factor in a ton of players that I know are decent were all harping on me for my read of the guy so with those factors I opted to go elsewhere for a target. However I looked at the voting. The two worst offenders for making sure I won and my lynch choice got through was GG and Storr as one last second voted and the other jerked around in thread able to change things but did it too late. Of these two I have had odd interactions with Storr, I know he was commonly read as scum this game by more than 1 person and his behaviour throughout the day / voting period kinda pushed me in his direction. As for why I didn't lynch Pope. At the time I didn't trust (still dont fully) BH or Rayn. I have made that clear already. As I didn't trust them I didn't take their read into full consideration at the time nor did I have a ton of time to make the decision. However Rayn being pissed I didn't kill his choice and calling me scum for it is just weird.
Shut the fuck up. You are making shit up.
Now give me the logs you scum.
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Blazinghand
United States25553 Posts
I basically agree with rayn's 2 casess on this page thoug hi can't take much credit for it. if I die pretend that those two cases are my autoeulogy
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QP saying "you are not aggressive as this in your past games".
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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On January 29 2014 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 06:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On January 28 2014 22:59 Mocsta wrote:
I'm not looking to lynch yet.
what I want to see is more effort put in by QP, coag and bum and thepoofteh replacement.
basically we have 48hrs and right now I would be looking for someone out of that group specifically.
I'm also waiting for BC to shed more light on how the lynch went down. kush asked some valid questions I thought. Basically the lynch went like this BH and Rayn did a huge last spurt vote swing onto Rayn to try and get him to be mayor. People Continued to vote for me. The camps seemed very polarizing on the BH and Pope lynch. (although there was a point where VE was up for getting shanked). Now, I was dead set on offing BH however, the way the last minute voting worked to ensure a BH lynch was fucking weird to me. Factor in a ton of players that I know are decent were all harping on me for my read of the guy so with those factors I opted to go elsewhere for a target. However I looked at the voting. The two worst offenders for making sure I won and my lynch choice got through was GG and Storr as one last second voted and the other jerked around in thread able to change things but did it too late. Of these two I have had odd interactions with Storr, I know he was commonly read as scum this game by more than 1 person and his behaviour throughout the day / voting period kinda pushed me in his direction. As for why I didn't lynch Pope. At the time I didn't trust (still dont fully) BH or Rayn. I have made that clear already. As I didn't trust them I didn't take their read into full consideration at the time nor did I have a ton of time to make the decision. However Rayn being pissed I didn't kill his choice and calling me scum for it is just weird. Shut the fuck up. You are making shit up. Now give me the logs you scum.
Why the aggressive tone man? From what I can tell you don't usually post like this.
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yeah rayn's normally pretty chill
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Like QP and BC do not even elaborate on the reasoning.
They just discredit me for some bullshit reasons.
Look at their posts. lol. Basic scum strategy - when you can't counter arguments, try to discredit the other person.
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Blazinghand
United States25553 Posts
On January 29 2014 06:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah rayn's normally pretty chill
i've never known rayn to get angry ever
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On January 29 2014 06:35 Blazinghand wrote:i've never known rayn to get angry ever
honelstly this is the first time i am aggressive.
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On January 29 2014 06:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like QP and BC do not even elaborate on the reasoning.
They just discredit me for some bullshit reasons.
Look at their posts. lol. Basic scum strategy - when you can't counter arguments, try to discredit the other person.
I never tried to discredit you. I kindly asked why your play seems to have changed and all you posted was a condescending comment not explaining anything.
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Last scum is btw Tehpoofer, or something like Oats. VE is pretty silent aswell.
I suspected kush but he nailed BC's Storr's QP-reasoning pretty well. Well done kush.
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