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On January 16 2014 10:08 Cephiro wrote: My thought process was this long: 1. See false information in thread 2. Post right information in thread 3. ??? 4. Answer your question about my thought process. There pretty much wasn't one. I also fail to see how it's relevant whether I said that or not. I can't see someone being stupid enough to claim miller at this point in the game. considering he had the option to leave it alone and tell his scumbuddies they can't fakeclaim this explanation makes the most sense. | ||
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On January 16 2014 11:08 Grackaroni wrote: ##Vote: Grack I call your bluff ##Vote: Grackaroni | ||
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On January 16 2014 12:03 Sn0_Man wrote: Oke you word-lawyer'd me. How about some COMMENTS with your commentary then? PS: hopeless for scum. Too many "i'm totally contributing" 1-liners and easy snipes plus seems overly interested in cementing a lynch with 40 hours left in the day. fine, let grack walk away scot free. he hasnt behaved in a scummy manner at all. what was I thinking. bad hopeless. bad. | ||
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2) actually call them scum 3) explain why they are scum sn0 get you head out your ass before its removed permanently. | ||
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rayn, any thoughts on grack? | ||
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On January 17 2014 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: I suggest you answer it truthfully. It gives us a better read on Skan. | ||
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On January 17 2014 00:41 Sn0_Man wrote: Hopeless, stop 1-liner sniping from the sidelines and do some legwork yourself. Image macro's are worse than 1-liners. You work hard enough to find/generate an image macro but are too fucking lazy to do anything that could be construed as hunting scum. That doesn't make a ton of sense. Unless theres a good reason you don't want to take a stance on anything in-game? Oh yeah, cuz ur scum. Listen, Toad is avoiding rayn's discussion and is promoting something that I find scummy. I don't know if Toad is scum or town. Asking him to do stuff is a way to discern his alignment. Finding an image macro is a more suitable representation of my attitude towards skanjabs questionnaire and rayn telling me I should answer it. I have taken stances. See my vote. See how Grack hasnt done a thing this game and no one gives a rats ass yet because "oh its soo super early its meaningless" bullshit. | ||
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On January 17 2014 00:40 Toadesstern wrote: + Show Spoiler +he basicly said this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440800¤tpage=18#344 I don't think the bolded part counters anything about the careful posts that were mentioned at all. That post is something anyone could do. Besides you look for uncertainties, they're not going to show up in every post just like a mafia who slips won't slip in every post bust just one. I still like that part of the case and think rayn is talking bullshit. Furthermore we got rayn talking about how the list post was supposed to be stupid (it was) and noone seems to have a problem with the fact that rayn's the only one who felt the need to answer it: Why does he answer that shit if he thinks it's shit, knowing that his answer is going to be shit as well? Just ignore it On January 16 2014 16:57 thrawn2112 wrote: oats i have no fucking clue if grack is scum or not. i never once said he's town, never, not once. I have in my notes: "grack - null, my+hopeless+kush+sn0 actions make it hard to judge" my reasons for unvoting were simply because i downgraded him from scummy to null because I REREAD and THOUGHT about my reasons and realized they were stupid. that does not fucking mean i'm suddenly town reading oats, take a reading comprehension class. that reason COMBINED with me not wanting to demotivate a potential townie is why I unvoted. town, murdering Oats IRL, depends on my mood, depends on my mood. On January 16 2014 18:02 Koshi wrote: Koshi is back alive. town. Being Batman. I am never pressured, maybe sometimes omgus. I only make well calculated decisions, and completely thought out posts. ↑ 1 thing is a lie. On January 16 2014 21:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: (1) town (2) stupid question (3) depends on the pressure and my alignment (4) emo On January 17 2014 00:28 Sn0_Man wrote: 1) I generally enjoyed my town games more than my singular replacement into a maf game 2) dafuq would I know? 3) Depends is a horrible cop-out answer everybody puts forth. I usually just OMGUS cuz omgus. Or whine a lot. 4) Tears, tears everywhere Aaaaand in other news I certainly hope you aren't counting on this or your romp through my filter as "contributions". | ||
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I find it hilarious you think rayn CANT get you lynched. Trololol | ||
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On January 17 2014 04:42 Skanjab1s wrote: Once you wipe rayn's semen off of your eyes go back and read and see that his reasons for thinking the points on my case were wrong are based on a misunderstanding Stop the personal attacks | ||
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On January 17 2014 04:54 Toadesstern wrote: About 2) I didn't see any quotes or explanations in the post I quoted. Just a one- or twoliner that looked like throwing mud. About 1) it's exactly what got Xatalos got lynched in the failgame. It's essentially the same thing because it's not a thing that is limited to Xatalos but a LOT of mafias. Toad that catalogs point is very different. Marv and rayn were very specific in saying that Xata does something as scum that he DOESN'T do as town. There is no basis to make that comparison on sn0's behalf unless he has literally never made a wishywashy statement ever before (since he's never rolled scum before) | ||
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On January 17 2014 07:01 thrawn2112 wrote: no that statement about balance implies that you think (or know ) that mig is town no that statement says mig os scum or rayn is scum. with the corollary that sn0 is town if mig is scum | ||
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On January 17 2014 06:43 Toadesstern wrote: could be, I only remember playing with him one game and he was town that game and I always confused him with vayne (who was in that game as well) because their names, shortned, are just so damn alike so I'm not really having a good memory of his playstyle (no I don't consider the failgame a game). I'm not really going to reread older games for that though. If this is true it's odd though. Yeah "random" my ass, there's no way Mig, rayn and I are all town. That means I'm either pulling a GM here or rayn's mafia. He did say he likes establishing reads on big players first. That contraticts with his reasoning above... he's basing a read on me on a read on someone else, who I might add, hasn't flipped yet... Are you being intentionally obtuse? | ||
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1a) Toad clarifies what "pulling a GM means" 2) Hopeless clarifies that Toad calls mig OR rayn mafia 2b) Toad slightly contradicts himself by including sn0=mafia scenario 3) Rayn asks Hopeless to explain how Toad called rayn mafia Such literacy. Very reading. | ||
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On January 17 2014 07:20 Sn0_Man wrote: Erm Grack... Now that you are back, care to do anything whatsoever? hey you leave my scumbuddy alone! nowait. proceed. wow sn0 you're so good at this game. | ||
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On January 17 2014 07:24 Sn0_Man wrote: Hopeless, how come all of your posts involve neither scumhunting nor any sort of insight into your reads? because you cant read between the lines. also my reads are maleable. grack is scum. skan is probably scum. kush (who i havent really commented on) is unreadable to me so far. I wouldnt cry if he was lynched. | ||
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why would i ever do that on day1? | ||
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On January 17 2014 07:49 Toadesstern wrote: ... now I'm scared... is it usual for townies to call lynches wagons these days? I usually only hear mafias use that word along the lines of something à la "duh, totally stupid wagon that formed without a reason, stop voting that".... I'd certainly say it has a negative connotation. its kush. this is why BH advocated policy lynching him in the failgame. | ||
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yoloswag420 ##Vote: kushm4sta | ||
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option a) kush flips scum option b) rayn takes a hit to his ego option b2) rayn dies for being wrong (haha smd) thats a win-win(-) to me. | ||
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On January 17 2014 15:33 Oatsmaster wrote: Im saying that they are voting for someone Im pretty sure is town. Therefore they might be scum and such, I would like to know why they voted for kush. Correct me if I'm wrong but I was under the impression that you were literate in the English language. | ||
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On January 18 2014 00:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Lol what Mig. Rayn is no way town for that. He knows town wont lynch him because kush flips town. that wont stop me from trying | ||
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On January 18 2014 00:56 Mig wrote: The hopeless/grack interactions are pretty strange. Both seem confident that the other is mafia but neither of them push for each other. They make one liners sniping at each other but neither really attempts to get the other lynched. short of saying "hey guys go look at grack" every 5 minutes, what is there for me to discuss? How should I go about pushing his lynch? I don't have a known persona for bullying people nor do people expect me to have good reads, so fuck it. lynch kush. if hes scum coolbeans if hes town I get to laugh at rayn. | ||
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He has what, 1 maybe 2 posts about how Koshi has mafia depression and is therefore scum. Accuses me of being hypocritical Claims doctor for basically no reason. Toad why the fuck is Grack not red/orange/yellow on your sheet? | ||
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On January 18 2014 01:18 Toadesstern wrote: Grack has the BH-color that tells me to ignore him. On top of that I really dislike him as a d1 lynch. Yes I know we lynch for mafia and not for information but I just don't like lynching people like Grack or lurkers on d1, people that give a freepass to everyone who wants to vote for them. I couldn't possibly hold it against someone if we lynch Grack and he flips town. At the same time I don't think there's a person on earth who's stupid enough to only do what he does as mafia so, despite really having the urge to "deal" with him I don't think it's that alignment indicative so he's still in the null/retard faction. People like Grack make for much better vig targets than for lynch targets. We obviously don't know if we have a vig but no need to lynch that d1. okay, so why am I your lynch choice then? | ||
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On January 18 2014 01:39 Toadesstern wrote: if that's really what you thought all the time, why didn't you say so? why didn't you ever push me the last 36-or-so hours? because you recently said that sn0 is still yellow/orange when I already told you he can't be scum for the reasons you've provided. I'm scummy, grack is "BH-color" what the fuck does that even mean. This is why grack trolls like this, he gets away with it. Thrawn said this at the very start of the game On January 16 2014 10:23 thrawn2112 wrote: I wrote this a million times when I bussed grack in some normal. He deflects suspicion by trolling/joking so don't let him get away with it. But no one is holding him to any standard of play worth reading. | ||
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On January 16 2014 12:43 Hopeless1der wrote: no, id rather you explain to me how you anticipate a townread based on your actions This post nullifies thrawn's case. I wouldn't even give Pandain a chance to do anything. I'm offering Grack a chance to not be a complete piece of shit. He neglects to answer and throws the ball back in my court. | ||
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On January 18 2014 02:27 VayneAuthority wrote: hold on I have to go look at time to die then at what point do you believe kush when he says I have been under pressure? | ||
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On January 18 2014 04:05 thrawn2112 wrote: nice. don't read case. call case bad. rayn you are so good at this game you never ever let your arrogance influence your reads, no definitely not and you wonder why i was 100% serious about putting it to the test when he said we could lynch him if kush flipped town. | ||
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On January 18 2014 04:06 Grackaroni wrote: Hopeless doesn't normally act like this. He seems to have this mindset of it's him against the world going on right now, and I think it's quite scummy. you wanna fight doc? | ||
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On January 18 2014 04:11 thrawn2112 wrote: Actually rayn, I don't think he was sheeping you. I think he was serious about lynching you if kush flips green. I see no reason in his filter that makes me think that he trusts you or town reads you enough to sheep you. The reasoning he gave was pure stupid, which is because scum need pure stupid reasoning to lynch townies. Why does he abandon his grack scum read for that? because you diverted people off grack to "give him room" and I saw the opportunity to watch rayn suck bag | ||
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On January 18 2014 04:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes and i am like 99% sure it has to do with the Blazinghand incident in last game and Hopeless is just being an idiot. dingdingding rayn wins. Now lynch Grack. Also figure out what that doctor claim was, hes not going to talk to me about it. | ||
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On January 18 2014 04:17 Grackaroni wrote: lol so when it's about a claim he wants to talk to me. And when it's about the game he doesn't need to talk to me because he is already convinced I'm scum. note how he's avoiding the question. Its not complicated. I even broke it down into bite-sized pieces: On January 18 2014 01:39 Hopeless1der wrote: grack are you really a doctor? if yes, why should I believe you? If no, why shouldn't we lynch you? On January 18 2014 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hopeless who is scum besides Grackaroni? Toad, Skanjab. | ||
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On January 14 2014 23:03 Hopeless1der wrote: no rayn, the most retarded thing you've seen is BH shortly after that, where he modkills his friends and breaks the game. Basically at your request. Thanks for playing. On January 14 2014 23:08 Hopeless1der wrote: hey i tried to play in my way, and after a fashion. You were the one who refused to consider me confirmed town for dubious reasoning. | ||
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He goes on to say how I'm the only other player thats 'yellow/orange' on his sheet when we have Grack doing nothing, cephiro being afk. Toad is opportunistically trying to bandwagon on me and doesnt give a shit about pushing anyone because both me and sn0 are mislynch targets, and I was leading the votes. skanjab is a weaker read but basically his case on sn0 was garbage and his followup explaining the way he makes his cases is using scummy and selective reasoning. | ||
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On January 18 2014 04:43 Toadesstern wrote: it was the most obvious lie ever and even if it's not why would you want to ask him about it? "HEY ARE YOU REALLY A DOC? - YES I AM" when mafia probably doesn't give a crap about it either, like noone else? If there's even a 1% chance of that not being a lie you ignore it. If it's a 0% chance you ignore it as well. Seems pretty straight forward to me. we're planning to lynch him, you're surprisingly nonchalant about ignoring a claimed doc's motives for claiming doc. | ||
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On January 18 2014 04:52 kushm4sta wrote: Link to hopeless last scum game anyone?? Plz Time to Die http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275&user=Hopeless1der&view=all | ||
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On January 18 2014 04:53 Toadesstern wrote: like I said I don't consider it a possibility to be the truth. He'd be in this thread pointing it out himself if it was, kicking and screaming "don't lynch the doc!!" because he knows himself that noone took him serious. and this is a town mentality to you? | ||
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On January 18 2014 05:12 Skanjab1s wrote: Could you elaborate on the "scummy and selective reasoning" thing, please? "Look at these posts I quoted. They are scummy for Reason A. Therefore the player is scummy for Reason A. NO!! Do not read those other posts that disagree with Reason A. They aren't important. Read the posts I quoted and only those posts. Those are the scummy ones. Read those. No guys stop looking at the entire filter. You only need to look at what I showed you. I clearly explained why the posts I quoted are scummy. That means that player is scummy. You don't need to know anything else." | ||
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On January 18 2014 05:50 kushm4sta wrote: toad can you talk about non useless shit please? why grack over hopeless? because he doesnt give a shit. and I do. this is fairly elementary kush. Even for you this is sad. | ||
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On January 18 2014 06:29 kushm4sta wrote: hopeless claim? You were the dumb sack of shit who called me antitown for "claiming vt". Im a veteran. Sn0's perfect streak is on track to continue. | ||
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Grack has demonstrated he can make reads. If he stops, lynch him. Meanwhile his case concerning bullshiting a Mig read and not caring about oats rings true to me. | ||
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##unvote ##vote toadesstern I probably wont be here at deadline to voteswap, especially quickly. | ||
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On January 18 2014 08:33 thrawn2112 wrote: more pretty sure hopeless is more of an asshole as scum ##vote:hopeless1der False, but unfortunately I lack the resources to dispute you before id be lynched. | ||
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On January 18 2014 21:43 kushm4sta wrote: no reason to call people bad, rayn... but I agree and I think hopeless is town. You're as bad if not worse than skanjab, go sit in a corner until we ask you for your opinion. | ||
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On January 18 2014 21:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you are town you don't need to convince Toad about anything because he is scum. Especially important about this is that both wagons were on townies. I'm out most of today so if I don't get my reread thoughts in sorry, but between being a vet and being hopeless in general I doubt I die tonight anyways. | ||
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On January 18 2014 20:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dunno anything but that thrawn, Koshi, Vayne and maybe Mig are town. Maybe Cephiro is town too. Everyone else is useless and can't tell which alignment. | ||
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On January 18 2014 20:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oh yeah Sn0 is town too. | ||
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This is what I want to reread for. I was in panic mode and was not at my computer so my recollection of the way the votes went is shitty and not likely to be useful right now. | ||
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On January 19 2014 01:19 Oatsmaster wrote: yay im now confirmed town. Thanks Rayn for assisting me. I haven't flipped and if I do, bye bye "confirmed". Answer the question about why did you bs Rayn not having town reads? | ||
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If I'm reading this correctly cephiro is a day-vig or is scum. I'm in the process of rereading things. Skanjab has damn near claimed SK and while he could just be joking about it I greatly dislike having to second guess someone who is wearing a "Lynch me" sign. Toad is being "framed" by the SK in my opinion. Not sure how that is going to play out as I still think Toad is scummy. | ||
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On January 19 2014 08:32 Cephiro wrote: Short addition since I'm hungry and need food before I continue. Oats is a fine target for a vig shot if we have one. Rayn has a small case on him, but it's good. I will add my own observations later. Another possibility is to save the shot for N2, (or use it on D2), when we have more information, if the possible vig(s) feel confident surviving the night. kush is a very interesting person. My scumread on him was originally much stronger, but between his senseless, "headless chicken" posts, he has quite some gems in there. I am particularly impressed by his logic and theory against me. It is very similar to thoughts I often have as town. I know his assumptions to be false in this game however, but it redeems his play a lot combined with the other few gems he has posted. In any case I'd like to keep him around for now. It is a possibility that he is being given content or ideas by a scumteam of his, but I find this to be unlikely. I would assume kush to be more "yeah whatever I'll do something my style np" instead of taking direct advice/content and using it. So for now, I want to encourage kush to keep up the activity. Preferably with more gems and less headless posting. Okay so technically there's a third option where you misread the OP completely, but I'm trying to assume you are literate. My apologies if I have overestimated you. (i.e. you are stupid if this is the case omfg). Vig's are dedicated shots for either Day OR Night. Not both. Since you know of the dayvig existing, it follows that you either ARE a dayvig or you FEAR the dayvig and are hoping to direct him elsewhere. | ||
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On January 19 2014 09:25 Cephiro wrote: Also to add, if you thought I was the dayvig, why would you want to point this out in the thread if you were town? ##DoubleLynch | ||
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On January 19 2014 09:31 Cephiro wrote: Is there a specific reason for you to step in and present a counter-question? If I would be thinking Hope is scum, I would have told everyone why I think it's done from a scum perspective. I don't think that's the case however, thus I ask him what he has to gain by doing it from a town perspective, since it felt off to me. Do you have a problem with that? Also Hope, you could actually take my posts seriously instead of trying to be funny. I'm completely serious, using a possible dayvig as a second lynch is stupidly protown. | ||
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On January 17 2014 04:56 Mig wrote: I mentioned grack already. The longer he sits back while the focus is elsewhere the worse he looks. Not a fan of cephiro either, his vt claim while doing nothing is bad Kush is tricky and I am pretty unsure of him. Jumping into the thread and immediately attacking people seems pretty strange for him, but I know in the past hes said he has a hard time as mafia finding things to attack and he generally just makes town reads. Meh, I would certainly watch him. Ceph why does Mig think you've claimed VT? Is MIg confirmed not reading the thread? | ||
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On January 20 2014 01:33 Oatsmaster wrote: What the fuck is the point of this? Its personal, its abusive, and it adds nothing that would convince people that Im scum. Right back at'cha there champ | ||
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Furthermore rayn can say whatever the hell he wants about his play, it doesn't make it true or false, especially because its rayn. You are inferring that rayn is town. Is that correct? | ||
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On January 17 2014 08:10 Toadesstern wrote: yeah that's my thought process as well... I'm actually considering to change it up, make a deal with him and just yolo as well to clear this like men. Something like "if kush flips red I'll do anything (in this game) you want me to do, like voting and so on, if he doesn't you do anything I tell you to do (in this game", like lynching sn0. Toad does not get to martyr after this post. | ||
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On January 20 2014 08:58 VayneAuthority wrote: why would mafia kill him if you announce that you will just lynch him if he doesnt die lmao he gets another check and confirms someone. | ||
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On January 20 2014 08:59 VayneAuthority wrote: need I remind you they have a roleblocker? They are just going to RB him and kill some1 else most likely. good answer. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Lynch Toad | ||
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On January 21 2014 01:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: 4) He gives up when he thinks mafia is accusing him of being mafia. He is not trying to argue against the lynch, he is not trying to do anything, he just quits the game. This is the point that really gets my goat, especially when earlier in the game when rayn was going to "throw the game" by letting us lynch him when kush flipped green, Toad was all for making a deal that didn't let rayn suicide etc etc. | ||
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On January 21 2014 02:33 Oatsmaster wrote: why even vote hopeless????? ITS PURALITY. Thanks for bringing this up when sn0 was concerned about where his vote was going or how people might just strike off and vote their "top scum read" with no regard for attaining a town-wide consensus on who should be lynched. You're soo good oats. | ||
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Who do you vote first? | ||
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On January 21 2014 03:53 Skanjab1s wrote: oh jesus thats scummy no u | ||
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On January 20 2014 09:24 Skanjab1s wrote: Yes! Anything to keep the claimed cop from surviving until night! Its one thing to tunnel. I can understand that. Its entirely another to be snippy when he has a clear agenda and a goal in mind (keep toad alive, let him get more checks if he is a cop). I think its bullshit and I think he's scum, right along with Toad. | ||
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On January 21 2014 04:37 Skanjab1s wrote: Stop assuming incorrect things to try make me look scummy, hopeless. I had town feels from him when I filtered him, and I really don't see a fakeclaiming scum to have (1) Done so that early on in the day, when he only had like, 2 votes on him, and (2) To then just give up afterwards. Look, if Toad is town, this is the worst thing he can do. Toad is experienced enough to know this. Furthermore, since its rayn that he's up against, he either has rayn as scum spewing shit, or town with his head so far up his ass that the game is unplayable. Now, I am uncertain of Toad's history with Rayn but I KNOW for a fact that if I was in Toad's position with the assumption that rayn was the primary factor in my death, I would be able to convince rayn otherwise simply by attempting to scumhunt. Toad has not taken this course of action. He's thrown in the towel in a completely anti-town fashion. Is there a chance Toad is town? absolutely. However, Toad SHOULD (and likely does) know better and the fact that he is throwing this hissy fit is explicitly scummy because it is an experiences player. If sn0 had pulled this shit I'd second guess my read on "the player". If kush had pulled this shit, I'd second guess my read. If in fact Toad flips town, my respect for him as a player will plummet and he will face the ire of ALL players on this forum for being a little bitch when the going got tough. | ||
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On January 21 2014 04:45 Cephiro wrote: Had a 3-hour call with my future wifey (no, she doesn't know that yet.) -> Mafia playing got delayed. So no analysis to come with this post, just my quick opinions. I will not lynch outside: Oats/Skan/Mig/Toad. I'd prefer Mig / Toad lynched. My own analysis as for why to come. And anyone who has read the thread knows there are many good reasons to. For those that are calling me mafia, I'd like to ask one thing. Make a proper case on me based on my own actions if you really think I'm mafia. All I see is so far calling me scum based on association. Last time I knew I'm not that good. (But hey, maybe I've gotten better, who knows?) After re-reading my filter with my neutral mindset, do think about if it's more likely to come from a scum Cephiro or a town Cephiro. That's all. Will be back at least 2 hours before the lynch. ceph the primary reason (imo) that you are up for consideration is that you are generally inactive and your case on mig was completely out of left field. Also, (while I agree with your case in general) due to mig being a vet, on the chance that you are right, it seems farfetched that YOU (no offense) are the player to have "caught" mig, and thus is looks so much more like a bus than a townie having caught someone. | ||
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Why are you able to reconcile toad to being town in light of his behavior Re: Rayn? | ||
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On January 21 2014 05:51 Mig wrote: It really is ridiculous that toad is still voting for himself and hasn't posted again. If Toad is actually a town cop and he doesn't come back then 100% he should receive a ban for rage quitting and not playing for his wincon. There is no possible way that voting for yourself then afking less than 24h into day2 as the town cop is correct play. It is just a rage quit/sabotaging your own team. Going to vote Toad and just assume he isn't that huge of a dick. ##vote Toad Toad has relinquished the right to redemption. No matter what he does he needs to die. I am not concerned with winning the game at this point. If Toad flips scum I'll care again. If he flips town, then gg I give up. | ||
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On January 21 2014 07:19 Mig wrote: The way toad is playing is throwing the game whether he is mafia or town and it is way more likely for a townie to throw than mafia. This point just doesnt clear with me when he was so supportive on NOT letting Rayn die for no reason with respect to kush's flip. | ||
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On January 21 2014 09:12 Mig wrote: Also shame on all you cows who refused to listen to me. My only solace is that I will hopefully be shot and I wont have to listen to mafia/monkey cephiro and koshi keep calling me scum. shame on Toad. that is all. | ||
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On January 22 2014 09:06 VayneAuthority wrote: a fake SK claim so he doesn't get lynched, we've all seen this before ##vote: Cephiro Im not sure that Ive seen it before, but yeah...##vote: Cephiro I hope he flips town, it'd really be such icing on this cake of a game. | ||
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On January 22 2014 09:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would you fakeclaim SK as town? hes saying its a scum fakeclaim, which means they have a vig | ||
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##vote: oatsmaster | ||
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##unvote ##vpte koshi | ||
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On January 23 2014 00:42 Oatsmaster wrote: yeah hopeless back to his lurking meta. I like it. this is my new and improved "i dont give a shit" meta | ||
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its funny because i cant picture scum saying it so that makes it (kind of) true. LOOOOOOOOOL | ||
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On January 25 2014 12:40 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok guys. Remember the last time rayn got really angry with someone? That someone flipped town. The only time we lynched scum was when everyone was cool and collected so lets not make any hasty decisions here. Also rayn has been wrong 2/3 times this game and his reasons foe calling me scum are all emotional and not logical. Think about it. He thinks im scum because of what? Nothing really, other than "useless" which is amazingly subjective. Unvote me and think about this ok? I bus koshi day 1-2 for what reason exactly? Scumteam is within vayne/skan/hopeless. If one of these 3 is blue please claim now. i already claimed blue oats. die please. | ||
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On January 25 2014 13:25 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok so no counterclaim right? Then lets lynch Vayne and Skansssss. EZ. Look at who was trying and who wasnt. Vayne and skan werent trying. I was. Therefore Im town and Vayne and skans is scum. ##vote Vayne If that is your true and honest opinion you are a horrible person. | ||
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. On January 24 2014 01:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: No, if Skan is town that means one townie vote is on Vayne. If Vayne is town aswell mafia can vote for him and we have no way of lynching mafia because even if all townies vote together Vayne has 4 votes first and Skanjabs is not around. So i have to believe one of Skan/Vayne is mafia to even possibly be able to lynch mafia. On January 24 2014 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because for Koshi to be mafia Skanjabs has to be mafia. One of Vayne and Skanjabs HAS to be mafia, other wise the town loses. | ||
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On January 26 2014 02:40 Oatsmaster wrote: lol So why was I able to read both Grack and Toad as town? easy there captain hindsight i might lynch you out of spite at this point. | ||
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##Vote: skanjab1s He literally can not be town after Koshi's flip. | ||
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On January 26 2014 02:52 Oatsmaster wrote: I said they were town before they got lynched dude. that does nothing to determine your alignment. if youre scum you know they arent scum. you didnt stop their lynch. you didnt substitute scum in place of their lynch. get over yourself. also vote skanjab1s if you arent already doing so. | ||
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On January 26 2014 02:57 Cephiro wrote: Hope, do you suddenly think Oats is not scum? Why are you changing your vote when we're quite certain to have a scum with 3 votes up for lynch, if all three of us are town (You, Me, Sn0), then it's a guaranteed lynch since he's the first to three votes. oats isnt game-mechanically confirmed scum like skan is. | ||
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On January 26 2014 07:27 Cephiro wrote: No, you need to get your asses back on Oats. -_- do you have a compelling argument for why skan is town? Do you explain how his vote for ?vayne? instead of koshi almost lost us the game and that it almost guarantees he is scum? | ||
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##unvote ##vote: Oatsmaster | ||
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Go fuck yourselves. | ||
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On January 27 2014 09:30 yamato77 wrote: Super Mario Bros. should have won by default tbh. Best game series represented. I feel better already. Thx yamato <3 | ||
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On January 27 2014 09:56 marvellosity wrote: Too many townies playing "no u" or just generally confusingly. Id like to believe that I was ever so slightly above that line, but yeah...town play was a travesty imo aside from rayne and thrawn. Hell kush played better than I did. | ||
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On January 27 2014 10:01 syllogism wrote: The only townies who even cared who was getting lynched in the lylo were Oats and Skanjabs. Oats did plenty and Skanjabs was clearly invested I don't think that's a fair assessment. They were the primary lynch candidates and in my opinion did fuckall to prevent their own/each others lynch besides RABBLE RABBLE ANGRY WORDS THAT GUY IS TOTES SCUM. When you're up for lynch SOME level of activity is expected, no? | ||
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This was a solid example of what NOT to do when you are town. | ||
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On January 27 2014 22:14 Koshi wrote: Now that I fullfilled my life long dream to post baby seals as scum I am ok with rolling town 24/7. best scum claim ever imo | ||
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On January 28 2014 00:32 Sn0_Man wrote: I knew that interaction was weak but not much came of it. The key issue was that the OTHER option for my scumteam of 3 was also a scumbuddy. So I played as if it was very clear to me that Skan/Oats were scum and then one of the other two, which gave me both a plausible reason to vote one of them if I had to, as well as a fine reason to ignore the reasons they looked scummy in favour of pushing my 2 (mis)lynch targets. Rayn managed to pick up on the read progression and train of thought that I was trying to project to the thread, which I was pleased about. TBH if I was town I'm not sure I'd ever have been that "certain" about my reads. And honestly, I do post "Well he could be scum but..." as town as well, even when the person flips scum. Although as town as soon as a scummer flips I like to think I re-evaluate based on that info. Especially votes and stuff. I clearly didn't do anything like that this game lol. This is my takeaway from this game. Well played sn0. | ||
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