[M][N] "SMB" Mini Mafia

On January 16 2014 10:01 Toadesstern wrote:
So Ceph, what was your your thought process when you figured it's a good idea to explain that there's no self-aware millers?

There's no BH in this game so it's quiiiiiiiite unlikely that a townie would ever fakeclaim self-aware miller.

On January 17 2014 00:06 Hopeless1der wrote:
your questionnaire was stupid and a waste of time both to post and respond to.

On January 17 2014 00:35 Hopeless1der wrote:
Toad, comment on why skanjab's case is bullshit as per rayn's discussion. One of you is wrong. Explain why.

On January 17 2014 00:35 Hopeless1der wrote:
Toad, comment on why skanjab's case is bullshit as per rayn's discussion. One of you is wrong. Explain why.

On January 16 2014 21:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:

(1) town
(2) stupid question
(3) depends on the pressure and my alignment
(4) emo

On January 17 2014 04:36 Hopeless1der wrote:
Toad, rayn has already explained at great length why skanjabs case is bad and how it could indicate a mafia mindset. He then went and read Hogwarts and concluded that skanjab is bad. The reasons are there if you choose to read them. Are you still in catch up mode or something? You're constantly not reading the thread properly.

On January 17 2014 04:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Toad:

1) "The way he is posting" is a bullshit argument. It's an argument people use when they can't make real arguments. It's just like saying "his tone is scummy". Look at his past games, come back and tell me how does it differ. All the games, not just one.

2) No, i have been saying it all the time. Explain, with quotes. All the time, after Mig posted, i have said his posts are suspicious. If you are talking about something else here explain what and elaborate properly.

On January 17 2014 07:04 Toadesstern wrote:


No, it literally says "it's either mig being mafia, sn0 town, rayn town ; OR mig town, sn0 mafia, rayn whatever". It's a big "EITHER OR" phrase...

On January 17 2014 07:11 Hopeless1der wrote:

no that statement says mig os scum or rayn is scum. with the corollary that sn0 is town if mig is scum

On January 17 2014 06:36 thrawn2112 wrote:


lol yeah that is why i'm reading rayn as town atm. one of his favorite scumtells is when people disagree with him

On January 17 2014 07:35 Hopeless1der wrote:
i reserve the right to policy lynch anti-town play.

On January 17 2014 07:46 kushm4sta wrote:
grack why not join the sno wagon?

On January 17 2014 08:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
can i lynch you if your wrong rayn?

On January 17 2014 15:24 thrawn2112 wrote:


Do you think any of them are scum? Or are you just saying that

On January 18 2014 01:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
i'm saying your sheet is bullshit and you're scum toad. Is that clear enough? is that direct? have I taken a fucking stance now?

On January 18 2014 02:19 kushm4sta wrote:
Vayne, hopeless filter is inflated because he has been under pressure, which understandably has induced him to try hard.

On January 18 2014 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I saw you mentioning kush's #4 and stopped reading. I also don't like the most important thing you consider there to be is in spoilers.

On January 18 2014 04:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:

No, the post where Hopeless votes for kush because of me is pure bullshit and if you don't see why Hopeless could do that as town you don't know what you are talking about. If that's the backbone of your case the case can't be good.

On January 18 2014 04:11 thrawn2112 wrote:


Actually rayn, I don't think he was sheeping you. I think he was serious about lynching you if kush flips green. I see no reason in his filter that makes me think that he trusts you or town reads you enough to sheep you. The reasoning he gave was pure stupid, which is because scum need pure stupid reasoning to lynch townies. Why does he abandon his grack scum read for that?

On January 14 2014 23:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah i am the worst player ever when "confirmed townies" are the most anti-town players in the game, do retarded shit when they can easily avoid it, then proceed on modkilling their mason group. On top of that they don't even try to play the game.

Fucking brilliant.

On January 18 2014 04:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
Have I missed where anyone directly questioned Grack about his doctor claim? His filter tells me nothing in this regard.

On January 18 2014 04:51 Hopeless1der wrote:

we're planning to lynch him, you're surprisingly nonchalant about ignoring a claimed doc's motives for claiming doc.

On January 18 2014 04:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
I told Toad there was no basis for his (meta?) read on sn0 since sn0 has never rolled scum. Using the reasoning that wishywashy statements come from scum doesn't apply to sn0 since in every town game he's played, he has similar statements. He pulls one post from WC2 when at MYLO (LYLO?) sn0 finally has to play (so did I if you remember correctly, it was my case sn0 was responding to) after days of information. There is again, no reasonable comparison to this game the way Toad has framed his case.

He goes on to say how I'm the only other player thats 'yellow/orange' on his sheet when we have Grack doing nothing, cephiro being afk. Toad is opportunistically trying to bandwagon on me and doesnt give a shit about pushing anyone because both me and sn0 are mislynch targets, and I was leading the votes.

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skanjab is a weaker read but basically his case on sn0 was garbage and his followup explaining the way he makes his cases is using scummy and selective reasoning.

On November 23 2013 03:19 Hopeless1der wrote:

TAKE NOTES. THIS IS HOW YOU CLAIM SCUM. 5/5 WOULD LYNCH AGAIN.

On January 18 2014 22:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hopeless, you are the one with "guaranteed extra info". You know (or if you are scum pretend to know) that both of the wagons were town. What are your conclusions?

On January 19 2014 09:26 Oatsmaster wrote:

Why would he do this as scum?

On January 17 2014 04:40 Sn0_Man wrote:
Tell you what mig, even if you are certain I'm scum there are at least 2 more scum out there plus or minus a serial killer. Who else is anti-town and why?

You've jumped into the thread and spoke of nothing except "omg sno scum lynchzorz". I'd like something more to read YOU by if you would be so kind.

On January 20 2014 01:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not interested in talking with Oats in this game any more. All he does is intentionally try to just bullshit people for no reason. He is not even playing mafia here, he is just being a bully, and that's stupid.

So just ignore him and lynch him after toad because he fails to say anything intelligent that has to do with this game anyways.

On January 20 2014 01:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You are either making shit up or you don't know how to play mafia.
Other people can tell you how my thought process makes perfect sense, you know there is a reason the intelligent people who are town think i am town.

On January 17 2014 08:08 Hopeless1der wrote:
no one will follow through and will probably try to lynch me, but here's my thought process
option a) kush flips scum
option b) rayn takes a hit to his ego
option b2) rayn dies for being wrong (haha smd)

thats a win-win(-) to me.

On January 20 2014 08:54 Skanjab1s wrote:
Hey, how about we don't kill the un-counterclaimed cop, and instead let mafia waste an nk on him if you want him dead so badly. If he doesn't die at night then we can kill him tomorrow.

I have good reason to believe oats is the mafia roleblocker at this point. There was no roleblock today as far as I can see and Oats always forgets to send in night actions, I think this is pretty likely.

On January 25 2014 12:49 Hopeless1der wrote:

i already claimed blue oats. die please.

On January 26 2014 02:06 Hopeless1der wrote:
rayn didnt own the lynches. We all had to reach a consensus on who to vote and both grack and toad played in spectacularly antitown fashion that deserved to be lynched. Short of modconfirming them town, I'd lynch them every single time for the way they played. You have done precisely dick all game long Oats, which hasnt been actively harmful to town but I cant say what alignment you are with any confidence. Save your own life if you are town by proving to us that you can find scum and stop pawning the responsibility onto the one player who consistently gives a shit.

On January 26 2014 02:47 Hopeless1der wrote:

easy there captain hindsight i might lynch you out of spite at this point.