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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 19 2014 01:56 GMT
#1581
On January 19 2014 10:52 Koshi wrote:
hmmm. Are you playing me?

that's up for you to decide. When you had your first game as mafia with a coach and had some weird 4 way with different possibilties for why someone might be doing something, what's the phrase your coach should have told you?

the most simple explanation is usually the correct one
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 19 2014 02:01 GMT
#1582
Who is scum? Your filter reveals nothing.

btw. Why did you not give reads before night?
I had a good night of sleep.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 19 2014 02:09 GMT
#1583
I thought I'd either get shot by a town-vig or not shot at all. No way in hell would mafia or SK hit me with everyone talking about lynching me.
About mafia, I'd like to lynch ska, maybe Mig/Oats/Koshi (typed your name out for filter reasons), a little less maybe hopeless but I don't really have him green.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
January 19 2014 02:23 GMT
#1584
On January 19 2014 01:35 Toadesstern wrote:
oh also I haven't commented on the ceph case because when I said good night I finished up what I still had left for the night (see screenshot) and wasn't in here, except for a quick look every hour or so. Actually I still haven't read it.


You felt necessary to answer earlier one when you were questioned / accused by others for your lack of response to my case. (Merely acknowledging it's existence and moving on.)

By this point you've had more than enough time seeing as you've been posting in thread to read it. Is there a reason you haven't followed up on it after reading it? Or have you still not?

I also don't like at all how you are claiming everyone is against you and you're clearly being framed and how you're clearly going up for lynch. I haven't felt at a single point in the game that you would've been close to getting lynched. Is there a particular reason you feel necessary to continuously point this out for others? Trying to ensure everyone understands you are being framed when you aren't?

Just looks really off in my opinion.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 19 2014 02:33 GMT
#1585
On January 19 2014 11:23 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2014 01:35 Toadesstern wrote:
oh also I haven't commented on the ceph case because when I said good night I finished up what I still had left for the night (see screenshot) and wasn't in here, except for a quick look every hour or so. Actually I still haven't read it.


You felt necessary to answer earlier one when you were questioned / accused by others for your lack of response to my case. (Merely acknowledging it's existence and moving on.)

By this point you've had more than enough time seeing as you've been posting in thread to read it. Is there a reason you haven't followed up on it after reading it? Or have you still not?

I also don't like at all how you are claiming everyone is against you and you're clearly being framed and how you're clearly going up for lynch. I haven't felt at a single point in the game that you would've been close to getting lynched. Is there a particular reason you feel necessary to continuously point this out for others? Trying to ensure everyone understands you are being framed when you aren't?

Just looks really off in my opinion.

have you actually looked at what was posted during the night?

No still haven't read it. I'll read it tomorrow, it's 3:30 am over here and I only got into a better mood 2 hours ago, which was still 1:30 am. Can't do anything that takes longer than 2:50 minutes atm, which explains most of the short posts from me atm.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
January 19 2014 08:34 GMT
#1586
On January 19 2014 09:14 Hopeless1der wrote:
##DoubleLynch

If I'm reading this correctly cephiro is a day-vig or is scum. I'm in the process of rereading things. Skanjab has damn near claimed SK and while he could just be joking about it I greatly dislike having to second guess someone who is wearing a "Lynch me" sign. Toad is being "framed" by the SK in my opinion. Not sure how that is going to play out as I still think Toad is scummy.


lolwhat, where have I claimed SK?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 19 2014 13:02 GMT
#1587
##unvote
##Vote: Mig

Better than Toad imo. Toad is being extremely sneaky or is just town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 19 2014 13:03 GMT
#1588
Or SK.

Therefore he didn't give reads because he knew he wasn't going to be shot. Or he even has vest.
I will check how many times toad gives reads when town on the night deadline.
I had a good night of sleep.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 19 2014 13:07 GMT
#1589
We should lynch sn0 for being a sheeple.
##Vote Sn0
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 19 2014 13:38 GMT
#1590
There is no reason for a townie to make a post like Toad did before the deadline. He does not give his suspects, intead he gives people who are suspicious of him. Over-defensive for no reason, as he has been all game. He has still given zero scumsuspects of his own. Mafia.

##Vote: Toadsstern
table for two on a tv tray
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
January 19 2014 13:52 GMT
#1591
Lol, Toad isn't mafia, and neither is Mig. We should lynch hopeless, the points on him are completely valid and he should have died yesterday.

##vote: hopeless1der
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 19 2014 14:06 GMT
#1592
I don't know if we should lynch Skanjabs instead. Ugh.. Maybe Skan/Toad/OAts are just scum and that's it.

Like "hey, let's lynch the un-cc'd veteran because the claim is most likely true since we don't have a doctor" because:
1) mafia believed Hopeless' claim as if Hopeless was mafia there would be a doctor and then you don't hit thrawn
2) there is no doctor because no sane doctor would have protected anyone else than thrawn

So yeah, no, we are not lynching Hopeless.
table for two on a tv tray
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 19 2014 15:05 GMT
#1593
On January 18 2014 08:39 Cephiro wrote:
[...Ceph's case on mig...]


So finally got to read it.
I disagree with the very first part about the smiley. I think it's a small but legit thing. Yes it could be wrong but I don't see any problems with it.

The 2nd part is true. What Mig states there just doesn't make sense. Just because someone thinks you're mafia does not mean you have to think he is mafia in return for saying so.

The 3rd part about Mig being concentrated on sn0 I disagree with as well. Mig hasn't posted all that much so yeah it's maybe going to look like he's tunneling but I don't particularly mind what Ceph is pointing out here.

The 4th part is something I still agree with Mig about. I don't know if I'd call it confident but sn0 certainly has changed.

5th part is something that seems strange but is taken out of context by just bolding the latter part. It is
Do you believe that is why I am posting against you? Or do you think I genuinely believe what I am posting?
Same thing as with the stuff we had about that one phrase I had. It's ein Either X or Y phrase, it is therefore obvious that one of the parts sounds weird on itself. It puts emphasis on something to get a "see? that's just weird, has to be the other thing" response.

So all in all I only really agree with the 2nd part in Ceph's case being
The second point just isn't valid. Why would it not make sense from town perspective? I can very well believe someone to be town even if they have a scumread on me. The word "instead" as I read it in this sentence is meant in the following sense opinion.




reading this actually made me more doubtful about Mig, both ways. Checking out skanjab and Oats filter now.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 19 2014 15:09 GMT
#1594
ein = a/an

Also I guess I should rephrase the part where I said
It puts emphasis on something to get a "see? that's just weird, has to be the other thing" response.
because that's not what he's trying to do with that phrase but no idea how to describe it.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 19 2014 15:10 GMT
#1595
guys pls why not Sn0
No gg, No skill.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 19 2014 15:33 GMT
#1596
Actually I'm not too sure about rayn. I've looked through is filter recalling the "X is mafia, 100% lynch him" but didn't know who it was and recalling him saying that ska is 100% certain SK. So I haven't found those two yet but I'm looking through and and thought I might as well look for what his reasoning when he posts.

+ Show Spoiler [big post] +
On January 18 2014 21:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Top scumread Oats:
  • His reasoning for kush being town is "because kush is wrong - that makes him town". Oats can't even know if kush is wrong or right, there is absolutely no way of knowing that if he is town.
  • His reasoning for Grack being town is because Koshi did something. That's bullshit, this post:
    On January 18 2014 02:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
    wtf is this shit? I really dont think Grack is flipping scum with koshi playing like this.

  • Apparently, judging from his posts Skanjabs is his top scumread for like whole D1 until he finds Koshi. Never really cares about anything that Skanjabs posts.
  • A lot of his posts makes absolutely no sense, are filled with unexplained anger (like all of his posts - from the beginning). What's the reason for being angry? Like he is being angry because someone (thrawn) disagrees with him. I call bullshit.




kush has failed to say anything productive all game, posts useless lists, lies and should die. To quote WaveofShadow; Why is he allowed to continue in this game?

Skanjabs made a terrible case on Sn0, the case was totally forced and it wasn't even about someone being scummy. Something pinged him and then he went to Sn0's filter and "looked for scummy stuff" like he said himself. That's not how townies make cases, so he is either scum or terrible at this game. Leaning on scum. Also right after the deadline he posts something that's very suspicious. This:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 09:14 Skanjab1s wrote:
"Damn, I see green writing. Ohyeah, (1) grack was the last-minute hasty counter wagon to hopeless, (2) this makes it even moore likely that hopeless is scum. Fantastic"

1) This could have been said before the deadline if he really thought this, there is no reason to not give your thoughts unless you know Grack is town and just want to lynch a townie
2) See this? Stupid reasoning for Hopeless to be mafia. Again, if he thought this before the deadline why not say it? If he believed Grack is mafia then this is not even an argument because it contradicts itself.

Toad & Hopeless are useless and post bad arguments.



Oats is mafia
Skanjabs is mafia
kush is mafia
If not all of them, maybe one of Toad/Hopeless - leaning on Toad.


That's really the only thing I've found on his reasoning. He has some points on Oats, he has some points on ska, kush is dead by now and he ends with "Toad and hopeless are useless, so mafia" which just isn't a reason to call someone mafia.

+ Show Spoiler [next post] +
On January 18 2014 21:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Toad never mentions Oatsmaster in his filter but is interested in other "useless people" a lot. In fact most of his contributions in the game are towards kush, i find this to be really weird in general.

Toad does not mention Cephiro in his filter at all after Cephiro does something suspicious!!! I even call Cephiro out for not playing the game 24h into D1 (instead he was playing voice mafia). Apparently he also has nothing to say about Cephiro's case on Mig, which should be an interesting post for him because hw literally called one of me/Mig scum at some point.


Yes and I find it very weird that he's pointing out these two for two reason:
First one being: You don't make assosication reads before people flip. He should know better than this, yet he's already assuming Oats and Ceph flipped something that is alignment indicative (probably mafia?) and I'm ignoring them for that reason. Like I said, you don't do this stuff before people are flipped.
Secondly: They're completly randomly picked. There's more people I hadn't mentioned a single time at that time. Why just mention those 2?

+ Show Spoiler [WTF] +
If i am the Vigilante:
On January 18 2014 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Funny things i wanna try this game:

If i am the Vigilante:
i will shoot Oats (or Skanjabs if he does not answer my questions)
If i am the Doctor:
i will doc thrawn.
If i am the Parity Cop:
i will check Toad.

All of the above are true.


The fuck? He says he'd shoot Oats or ska if he was a vig. Now we all know he isn't but if he'd shoot Oats or Ska why is he voting me? Or why didn't he put me as his vig shot instead of parity cop check, which takes some time to get results, which he as a VET should assume he's not going to get. This just doesn't make sense at all.

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 18 2014 23:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats/Skanjabs/Toad anyone?
Btw, still searching for reasoning

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 19 2014 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
im pretty drunk thrawn.
Oats is so scum.
So is Toad.
Who is third?
Still no reasoning to be found but still going with the [i]"I'd totally shoot Oats but want to lynch toad thing. Dropped ska for no apparent reason and didn't look like he even believes in ska being mafia anymore. There was 2 posts like this I think

[spoiler]
On January 19 2014 23:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't know if we should lynch Skanjabs instead. Ugh.. Maybe Skan/Toad/OAts are just scum and that's it.

Like "hey, let's lynch the un-cc'd veteran because the claim is most likely true since we don't have a doctor" because:
1) mafia believed Hopeless' claim as if Hopeless was mafia there would be a doctor and then you don't hit thrawn
2) there is no doctor because no sane doctor would have protected anyone else than thrawn

So yeah, no, we are not lynching Hopeless.
[/spoiler]
His most recent post. Suddenly ska reappears on the list. I'm still his lynch candidate but Ska/Oats are STILL his more scummy suspects as he keeps on pondering about those instead. Despite saying though his vote is still firmly on me. And as you might have figured, still no fucking reasoning for anything.

Wouldn't be suprised if it's rayn/ska or rayn/Oats to be honest.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 19 2014 15:35 GMT
#1597
SERIOUSLY WHY WOULD IT BE ME. WHAT. NOW YOU ARE DOING THE ASSOCIATION CASES WITHOUT FLIPS.
No gg, No skill.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 19 2014 15:40 GMT
#1598
I don't know if it was somehow bad phrasing but the post above mostly focused on rayn and not so much about you except for the very last phrase. Consider it foreshadowing if you want. I'm having a problem with rayn here, not with you.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 19 2014 15:40 GMT
#1599
also you didn't even read it in 2 minutes...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 19 2014 15:41 GMT
#1600
I did. I read fast.
No gg, No skill.
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