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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 19 2014 00:12 GMT
#1541
i got roleblocked last night
I come in for the scraps
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
January 19 2014 00:13 GMT
#1542
Toad, do you think if mafia had a vig that they'd take a shot at this point? If I was scum, I'd be more concerned about the possibility of an SK. To me, kush hardly seemed like a blue or an SK.

Of course it's still a possibility, but I consider it unlikely. But it's something that should be kept in mind, especially with hopeless's vet claim. Assuming it is true, it could easily be that the setup has a high amount of kp.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 19 2014 00:14 GMT
#1543
##DoubleLynch

If I'm reading this correctly cephiro is a day-vig or is scum. I'm in the process of rereading things. Skanjab has damn near claimed SK and while he could just be joking about it I greatly dislike having to second guess someone who is wearing a "Lynch me" sign. Toad is being "framed" by the SK in my opinion. Not sure how that is going to play out as I still think Toad is scummy.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 19 2014 00:16 GMT
#1544
On January 19 2014 09:13 Cephiro wrote:
Toad, do you think if mafia had a vig that they'd take a shot at this point? If I was scum, I'd be more concerned about the possibility of an SK. To me, kush hardly seemed like a blue or an SK.

Of course it's still a possibility, but I consider it unlikely. But it's something that should be kept in mind, especially with hopeless's vet claim. Assuming it is true, it could easily be that the setup has a high amount of kp.

sure why not? Killing townies early on or later on doesn't make that much of a difference from a mafiapoint of view. If anything the chances to hit a potential SK increases.
At the same time having a bunch of townies dead early on makes it easier to controle town as mafia. So yeah I'd be shooting that vig shot n1 as mafia. I'm not though
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
January 19 2014 00:16 GMT
#1545
Hope, why do you think I am either of those? I don't see how anything I've posted points towards either.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 19 2014 00:20 GMT
#1546
On January 19 2014 08:32 Cephiro wrote:
Short addition since I'm hungry and need food before I continue.

Oats is a fine target for a vig shot if we have one. Rayn has a small case on him, but it's good. I will add my own observations later. Another possibility is to save the shot for N2, (or use it on D2), when we have more information, if the possible vig(s) feel confident surviving the night.

kush is a very interesting person. My scumread on him was originally much stronger, but between his senseless, "headless chicken" posts, he has quite some gems in there. I am particularly impressed by his logic and theory against me. It is very similar to thoughts I often have as town. I know his assumptions to be false in this game however, but it redeems his play a lot combined with the other few gems he has posted. In any case I'd like to keep him around for now.

It is a possibility that he is being given content or ideas by a scumteam of his, but I find this to be unlikely. I would assume kush to be more "yeah whatever I'll do something my style np" instead of taking direct advice/content and using it. So for now, I want to encourage kush to keep up the activity. Preferably with more gems and less headless posting.

Okay so technically there's a third option where you misread the OP completely, but I'm trying to assume you are literate. My apologies if I have overestimated you. (i.e. you are stupid if this is the case omfg).
Vig's are dedicated shots for either Day OR Night. Not both. Since you know of the dayvig existing, it follows that you either ARE a dayvig or you FEAR the dayvig and are hoping to direct him elsewhere.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 19 2014 00:20 GMT
#1547
On January 19 2014 09:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
i got roleblocked last night

rayn thinks you're blue. Sad thing I can't take this information for granted. Would be hilarious to lynch him off of that.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 19 2014 00:21 GMT
#1548
On January 19 2014 09:20 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2014 09:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
i got roleblocked last night

rayn thinks you're blue. Sad thing I can't take this information for granted. Would be hilarious to lynch him off of that.


it was a safe roleblock choice for them, im not under much suspicion and I have been trolling with role stuff. doesnt really implicate anyone
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 19 2014 00:22 GMT
#1549
im more interested in why it is thrawn/kush that died
I come in for the scraps
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 19 2014 00:23 GMT
#1550
On January 19 2014 09:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2014 09:20 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 19 2014 09:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
i got roleblocked last night

rayn thinks you're blue. Sad thing I can't take this information for granted. Would be hilarious to lynch him off of that.


it was a safe roleblock choice for them, im not under much suspicion and I have been trolling with role stuff. doesnt really implicate anyone

yeah agree. You're looking even better now that you got RB'ed
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
January 19 2014 00:25 GMT
#1551
On January 19 2014 09:20 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2014 08:32 Cephiro wrote:
Short addition since I'm hungry and need food before I continue.

Oats is a fine target for a vig shot if we have one. Rayn has a small case on him, but it's good. I will add my own observations later. Another possibility is to save the shot for N2, (or use it on D2), when we have more information, if the possible vig(s) feel confident surviving the night.

kush is a very interesting person. My scumread on him was originally much stronger, but between his senseless, "headless chicken" posts, he has quite some gems in there. I am particularly impressed by his logic and theory against me. It is very similar to thoughts I often have as town. I know his assumptions to be false in this game however, but it redeems his play a lot combined with the other few gems he has posted. In any case I'd like to keep him around for now.

It is a possibility that he is being given content or ideas by a scumteam of his, but I find this to be unlikely. I would assume kush to be more "yeah whatever I'll do something my style np" instead of taking direct advice/content and using it. So for now, I want to encourage kush to keep up the activity. Preferably with more gems and less headless posting.

Okay so technically there's a third option where you misread the OP completely, but I'm trying to assume you are literate. My apologies if I have overestimated you. (i.e. you are stupid if this is the case omfg).
Vig's are dedicated shots for either Day OR Night. Not both. Since you know of the dayvig existing, it follows that you either ARE a dayvig or you FEAR the dayvig and are hoping to direct him elsewhere.


Now you're out on thin ice.

1) There is a possibility of a vig, dayvig, neither, or even both (unlikely) to exist with the information we are given.
2) I have no idea which is the true case, which is why I listed all the possibilities.

I have at no point claimed I would know a vig role to exist in this game. It is fairly likely to be so, however, but nothing can be said for certain by anyone but a person that may have that role. I think my sentence quite clearly points out me saying that another possibility is to save the shot for N2 (in case of vig), OR use it on D2 (in case of dayvig). What part do you not get?
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
January 19 2014 00:25 GMT
#1552
Also to add, if you thought I was the dayvig, why would you want to point this out in the thread if you were town?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 19 2014 00:26 GMT
#1553
On January 19 2014 09:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
im more interested in why it is thrawn/kush that died

I'd guess one of rayn/Mig, from you point of view you should probably include me as well, is SK. Mafia didn't shoot into any of that due to fear of protection and the SK didn't shoot that because I looked like a good lynch a couple hours ago, so no need to shoot that and one of rayn/Mig is SK himself, so he doesn't shoot himself either and the 3rd one is either mafia or most likely protected by a doc, assuming a doc is in the game.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 19 2014 00:26 GMT
#1554
On January 19 2014 09:25 Cephiro wrote:
Also to add, if you thought I was the dayvig, why would you want to point this out in the thread if you were town?

Why would he do this as scum?
No gg, No skill.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 19 2014 00:27 GMT
#1555
On January 19 2014 09:25 Cephiro wrote:
Also to add, if you thought I was the dayvig, why would you want to point this out in the thread if you were town?

##DoubleLynch
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 19 2014 00:29 GMT
#1556
On January 19 2014 09:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2014 09:25 Cephiro wrote:
Also to add, if you thought I was the dayvig, why would you want to point this out in the thread if you were town?

Why would he do this as scum?

to get *lookylooky I do read the thread* points, but it doesn't really matter either way. If he IS a dayvig he'll shoot today and there's nothing mafia or an SK could do about it.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 19 2014 00:29 GMT
#1557
On January 19 2014 09:26 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2014 09:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
im more interested in why it is thrawn/kush that died

I'd guess one of rayn/Mig, from you point of view you should probably include me as well, is SK. Mafia didn't shoot into any of that due to fear of protection and the SK didn't shoot that because I looked like a good lynch a couple hours ago, so no need to shoot that and one of rayn/Mig is SK himself, so he doesn't shoot himself either and the 3rd one is either mafia or most likely protected by a doc, assuming a doc is in the game.


I don't see any reason to assume SK so I don't follow. Every single alignment has some sort of night killing power, who knows what happened unless we see some claimed shots or something.

I will confess that I had a SK read on you yesterday though after our weird interactions, not sure after tonight
I come in for the scraps
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
January 19 2014 00:31 GMT
#1558
On January 19 2014 09:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2014 09:25 Cephiro wrote:
Also to add, if you thought I was the dayvig, why would you want to point this out in the thread if you were town?

Why would he do this as scum?


Is there a specific reason for you to step in and present a counter-question?

If I would be thinking Hope is scum, I would have told everyone why I think it's done from a scum perspective.
I don't think that's the case however, thus I ask him what he has to gain by doing it from a town perspective, since it felt off to me. Do you have a problem with that?

Also Hope, you could actually take my posts seriously instead of trying to be funny.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 19 2014 00:32 GMT
#1559
On January 19 2014 09:31 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2014 09:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 19 2014 09:25 Cephiro wrote:
Also to add, if you thought I was the dayvig, why would you want to point this out in the thread if you were town?

Why would he do this as scum?


Is there a specific reason for you to step in and present a counter-question?

If I would be thinking Hope is scum, I would have told everyone why I think it's done from a scum perspective.
I don't think that's the case however, thus I ask him what he has to gain by doing it from a town perspective, since it felt off to me. Do you have a problem with that?

Also Hope, you could actually take my posts seriously instead of trying to be funny.

I'm completely serious, using a possible dayvig as a second lynch is stupidly protown.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 19 2014 00:33 GMT
#1560
like fuck, shoot me to confirm me town if you like.
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