Golden Sun: The Lost Age Mafia Djinn Edition

On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:

You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be?

On May 21 2014 06:49 Yell0w wrote:
So about this whole RNG thing, aren't scum players more likely to vote for OdinofPergo if he isn't in their faction since they don't even need a reason to vote him? They can just claim they're doing it for RNG and get a lynch on someone who isn't aligned with them?

Wouldn't a better way be to each claim we are RNG voting, then use the RNG on the post in which we claimed it and then vote for whomever our own post said? So that there is no way to know if you're going to lynch someone of your own faction or not so it's riskier for scum to go by RNG? Maybe I'm completely wrong here.

On May 21 2014 09:10 Alakaslam wrote:
HEY HIJOLE

What page did we start on?

On May 21 2014 09:10 Holyflare wrote:



yellow and jampi plz

On May 21 2014 06:49 Yell0w wrote:
So about this whole RNG thing, aren't scum players more likely to vote for OdinofPergo if he isn't in their faction since they don't even need a reason to vote him? They can just claim they're doing it for RNG and get a lynch on someone who isn't aligned with them?

Wouldn't a better way be to each claim we are RNG voting, then use the RNG on the post in which we claimed it and then vote for whomever our own post said? So that there is no way to know if you're going to lynch someone of your own faction or not so it's riskier for scum to go by RNG? Maybe I'm completely wrong here.

On May 21 2014 06:57 Yell0w wrote:


I'm not sure what that means, but I definitely prefer an alive cat to a dead one.

On May 21 2014 07:11 Yell0w wrote:


SHE USED SARCASM! LET'S LYNCH HER!

On May 21 2014 08:55 Yell0w wrote:
Okay so I'm behind an RNG lynch, I understand my idea wouldn't work since people don't want to random their vote and if most don't do it it'll never work, so I'll just vote Odin. I was willing to wait for people to say why they were against it, but nobody gave a good reason not to do it, in my opinion.

##Vote: OdinofPergo

On May 21 2014 09:16 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Lazy town is not productive town.

Neither is lazy mafia.

Prove to me you're the first.

On May 21 2014 09:21 Holyflare wrote:
sqrt have you seen yellow play scum? also, your first post quoted and last post, are they not contradictions?

On May 21 2014 09:22 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Awww poor BH. Nobody wants to be treated like Chompsy.

So I initially read this post + Show Spoiler + as more townie. As mafia, I don't think Yell0w would bring this post up, because if he was that mafia, he could just randomly vote Odin without questioning it. The fact that yell0w questions the play before he agrees with BH on the RNG thing makes me think he is more town evaluating the plays another is trying to make.

On May 21 2014 09:23 Holyflare wrote:


^ against the idea of rng



no posts since first post that indicate that his opinion has changed other than his idea not working

contradiction?

On May 21 2014 09:29 marvellosity wrote:
tldr

On May 21 2014 10:01 geript wrote:

Guess again.

On May 21 2014 12:04 Cephiro wrote:


I have no idea because I rolled town, but I would assume that the goals of the multiple factions do not overlap, at least not by much. It is also not certain that all of the 4 other factions are pro-scum, but it is likely there is more than one. I think it's very possible for there to be a pro-town faction, or some sort of win with town faction.

On May 21 2014 12:06 Cephiro wrote:


All my wat.

I think she is mafia. You disagree but think she is mafia?? All I can say is CHUPAZI.

On May 21 2014 12:04 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
@Ceph, I disagree on your case. I think bunnies is mafia.
However, I don't think you're mafia. Although it's a bit strange you went straight for her, I think you're town.
I would, however, like to see what your reads are, other than bunnies.

On May 21 2014 12:07 Tehpoofter wrote:


You disagree and think shes mafia? Why do you think that or was this a typo?

What do you think of yellow

On May 21 2014 12:12 Holyflare wrote:


ya

On May 22 2014 00:45 OdinOfPergo wrote:
So some thoughts so far..
I'll try to keep in order as much as possible... but as I just skimmed like 50 pages that might be hard.

This whole RNG stuff.
It's pointless, it was pointless from the start.

My few conclusions I'm going to take away from this are:
BH is probably scum. Not as a baseless OMGUS, I'll explain.
BH has literally no filter.
None at all.
I'm not saying I'm in-tune with how BH does his RNG thing people were saying was popular with him.
But BH's filter consist of:
Let's RNG Odin.
No serious guys, let's do it.
Guys? Why we no voting for Odin?
Ok screw RNG then I'll just call Odin scum.
You know the guy who's posted.. not a single time.
How did this a RNG roll evolve to a scum read?
I mean it's been almost half of day one now and I'm still the only read he has in the game atm.
Okok, I lied a bit there. He wanted someone to shoot Geript iirc too.
So my conclusion to his filter is:
-Useless RNG talk
-Filler post
-Weird call for a shot on Geript (Dude's an ass? who knew! Geript you horse you.)
-Impossible evolution of a scum read on Odin
##Vote: Blazinghand

The Steve/Holy/MZ whoever else arguement was pretty weird to me too.
I don't think Holy is scum atm.
I'm not particularly partial to Steve's spam. 1/10 post he's made amount to anything to me.
That worries me.
MZ also had a few post I didn't like around this time.
But he shares a lot of the reads I have now.
So not sure if I just didn't like them because of the context, or because they were bad.
I'll have to read his filter later to decide.

I'd be fine with Vale lynch.
All the reasons already said by other people.
I'm totes a sheep if he becomes the lynch.

The whole Ceph case on ninjabunnies reads really awful to me tbh.
I mean I get what he's saying. But I have no idea why he believes that to be the case.
You're basing your top scum read on
"she didn't respond the way I expected town to respond."
"she didn't think like I think a town should of thought"
I mean your case isn't wrong per say.
But it is very bad.
Consider the player list of this game.
If you don't understand why someone responded/acted towards something you were trying to lay a trap for...
Umm I guess you might probably just go ahead lynching 1/3 of the player list.
Conclusion of your case means I should of been mislynched in 95% of the town games I've ever played.
Because I never make any sense..

Moving along,
Bunnies case on Thrawn is stupid and bad.
But it's not her fault really imo.
If I had never played with Thrawn I'd probably be suspicious of him too.
I mean this is probably why I'm eerie of Steve right now.
His play so far isn't something I'd call super for town.
But I have no idea what Steve's play looks like period.

Anyway, /end wallpost. I'll be around for a short while before bed. Hopefully I'll be up again early enough to chat with people before work.

On May 22 2014 00:46 marvellosity wrote:

Why don't you just explain everything? Why wouldn't you?

On May 22 2014 00:49 Holyflare wrote:



explain to me how you've arrived at ^^^^^^^ after stating this:



like all your reads have changed with not much talking about that in between

On May 22 2014 00:44 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, here's my new reads/changed reads:

I'm not sure of the tambo push, I originally read tambo as town, but I'm not sure right now.
BKQ I don't like.
Marv I like.
Xat is my top town atm.
Steve I like.
Cav I don't like.

As always, ask me to explain if needed.

On May 21 2014 20:05 marvellosity wrote:

Marv I don't think would cockblock on a null read like this if he were town

Yes, I obviously would if he was pursuing it in a very irritating way

More likely he'd ignore me and let me develop it.

He wasn't developing the read, he was ranting at town to vote for confirmed scum. Not the same.

Not a 100% on that but his push on Xat early was for pretty awful reasoning.

The reasoning was fine, you made multiple posts on the non-topic of day 1 lynches being decided by connection voting and stuff. There's a reason I didn't vote for you the *first* time you made such a post, but after about the 3rd time you reiterated the same fluffy crap. Go check your own filter and when I voted for you. Go on.

Like if Marv were town and has that "it's enough for now" line, he'd be far more willing to entertain a good outside lynch.

Totally baseless

Plus, he has done nothing to make me think he's either town or scum, which means he cares about how he comes across which is far more likely to be mafia

If I cared about how I looked, I'd be looking a lot better than how I do now, I have many, many scumgames and I am never viewed as suspicious early on in any of them... because I pay attention to how I come across! The entire point he's trying to make is completely self-defeating...

So yes, basically the entire post is wrong or bad in some way.

On May 22 2014 00:55 Holyflare wrote:


the only people you've talked about are one liners etc saying "bunnies town" "yellow town" but then they've all disappeared from your list of towny people and you have a new list of completely different people that you haven't mentioned in your filter really at all

On May 22 2014 02:13 Onegu wrote:
Ive requested to be replaced out, first game off the banlist not a good start. But with the miltary haveing declared martial law and now protesters gathering close to my home and I am afraid fighting will start my anxiety is through the roof and Im unable to concentrate.


Anyway sorry.

On May 22 2014 02:46 Xatalos wrote:


I'm happy that you feel this way, but this isn't very specific. How exactly am I obvtown?

On May 21 2014 06:44 Xatalos wrote:


Of course there will be scum on almost any wagon. It's just that connection speculation (bussing, speed of wagons forming, etc.) are a bit less reliable than they usually are. It should be more useful to focus on individual scumminess for now.

On May 21 2014 19:59 Xatalos wrote:


I think geript is very likely town and this post is a good example. It's weird that marv would vote me for little to no reason (claiming it's "good enough" lol) and then defend Slam like this. marv: how is this post by geript terrible?

(To be clear: marv probably isn't a good D1 lynch, since as scum he's forced to maintain some level of activity and leave behind clues about his scummates - and if he's town he's obviously too valuable to lose to a lynch - but I'd say I'm not getting any townie feeling from marv yet and so I'm slightly leaning scum)

On May 21 2014 22:11 Xatalos wrote:
I kind of like Cephiro's point on ninjabunnies - about how ninjabunnies doesn't apparently consider the possibility of Cephiro being scum when Cephiro pushes him:

"If you don't consider me as mafia, you shouldn't be voting me.

The only reason outside of you considering me as mafia for why you would vote for me is this: you want to get a read on me via my reactions to your voting on me to see if I react poorly or more town favored. This is only used if you don't have a read on me from what I've previously posted."

It's a bit of a weird thing. Is it even a scumslip? Hard to say. Probably not. Still something that bothers me a bit.

On May 22 2014 02:48 kitaman27 wrote:
The Doctor, Harry Potter, and The Batman are not impressed.

On May 22 2014 02:54 marvellosity wrote:

These are main, "good" characters in mafia games on TL that have actually been mafia.

On May 22 2014 03:07 geript wrote:
I'm am summoning my inner Plammer. Lynch all claims. Start with BH. He isn't quite as fun to lynch as VE but sacrifices must be made. Also I called it like early on.

On May 22 2014 03:41 Hapahauli wrote:
Steeveling and Geript - can both of you stop repeatedly flamebaiting each other? It's completely useless thread content, and you're probably both town arguing with each other like idiots.

On May 22 2014 03:46 geript wrote:
Sqrt when I find people giving townreads for bad reasons like that, they're usually mafia.

On May 22 2014 03:59 kushm4sta wrote:





contradicting yoruself?

On May 22 2014 04:01 kushm4sta wrote:
no but you said townreads like that always coem from town in your experience.

then you agree with getript about them usually being town.

On May 22 2014 04:02 Holyflare wrote:
we don't lynch bh and we don't lynch geript

On May 22 2014 04:06 geript wrote:
Sqrt... Why is it that how you're posting you're reads is ever so drastically different from your newbie games?

On May 22 2014 04:07 Koshi wrote:

What Kush is saying:

First you said: Everyone who said this is town
Geript replies: No, usually they are scum
Then you reply: Yes, usually but not this time.

Which is a contradiction.

On May 22 2014 04:10 geript wrote:
No. I think you miss my point. Early on you posted reads without any sort of reasons, twice in fact. In all you're newbie games you've given some brief and some long explanations. What changed?

On May 21 2014 23:16 Koshi wrote:

The smurf is likely American.


People who used marvelocity in the past:
debears
sandroba
strongandbig
+ Show Spoiler +

sandroba is Brazilian and I don't think they would use words like "reassess".
debears is kinda oldskool I think and wouldn't be so familiar with the players here.


Strongandbig left.

Hmm. It is possible.

On May 21 2014 07:48 Blazinghand wrote:


The definition of factions pretty much means they have to be scum aligned. Otherwise we'd just call them "blues". Even if they were like 3p factions or whatever, we'd still want them dead, right?

Also nice goalpost moving.

1. "do more factions = more scum? wouldn't scum numbers stay the same to keep the ratio... balanced?" as a question implies that you, like me, expected all or most of the factions to be scum factions.

2. but then "additional factions could be third parties..." later on is what you say after I show solve #1.

So, what's the deal? Why the resistance on the odinofpergo lynch???

On May 22 2014 04:23 Holyflare wrote:
oh geript was talking about hapa? w/eeee

On May 22 2014 04:25 Holyflare wrote:
so did i don't worry

Holyflare - Mafia. I've reconsidered a bit, he's on the line for me.

explain it sqrt because i've never seen you explain it in the entire game and the only reason it seems like you're voting me is because i took 3 minutes to say "ya"?

On May 22 2014 04:35 Holyflare wrote:


instead of the meta, which is completely wrong (why would i be carefree as mafia?) is there anything that i've said that you've disagreed with? don't like? doesn't make sense?

On May 21 2014 12:13 Holyflare wrote:
should be obvious/will be obvious

On May 22 2014 04:39 Koshi wrote:
@sqrtofneg1
Finding smurfs is serious business.

On May 22 2014 04:39 Holyflare wrote:


so you don't think steveling is town? because that's what i've been saying

On May 22 2014 04:44 Steveling wrote:


He never said I'm mafia, he just wanted to vote me anyway.

On May 22 2014 04:43 Steveling wrote:
So, if we don't pursue BH and geript, wtf are we doing?

On May 22 2014 04:45 Holyflare wrote:


that's a complete lie

On May 22 2014 04:46 Koshi wrote:

Layabout or anything that marvs votes.

Done.

On May 22 2014 08:20 Valenius wrote:
Oh sqrt. I meant to chase you up on this: "All other factions are anti town. That's confirmed."

When was this confirmed? Apologies if you answered it later and i missed it.

On May 22 2014 08:24 Valenius wrote:


Ah. Different reads on that then. I read it as Town's wincondition is to eliminate all factions that can cause harm to town.

i.e.

3 scum groups, 1 mason group, kill scum, mason can live.

On May 22 2014 09:58 kitaman27 wrote:
So at work they've set up a new web filter, which has TL on the blocked list. -_-

I'm able to access the site through a proxy, but the site formatting is all messed up, clicking the bold or quote buttons make the entire post disappear, the session keeps expiring, and the filter button doesn't work (probably the most annoying part). I'm likely going to be posting in spurts during in the evening without interacting with the thread much during the day, aside from weekends.

After reading through the thread from the start, I can already tell this is going to be a challenge because I've already used up most of my free time and haven't even been able to produce a post yet. I'll see how this goes for a few days if this is going to work or not.

I've got a few people that stood out, but I want the chance to read through their filters first.

On May 22 2014 10:10 Holyflare wrote:
but like the majority of lurkery people in this game... i want to hear more T_T

On May 22 2014 10:12 Holyflare wrote:


besides jampi who would you lynch?

On May 22 2014 10:16 Holyflare wrote:
well let's talk through this read on me then because i get a feeling i already know what you'll say about cav and your read on me is really strange because half of it was disproved

so what part of my play is different that makes you think i'm scum? would i be so "carefree" if i was trying to push lynches on not-scum? carefree isn't something i associate with mafia play

On May 22 2014 10:19 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Why Ceph?

Regardless of what you are reading me as, what do you think of Ceph's case on me?

On May 22 2014 10:20 Holyflare wrote:


well like i said to steve at the start of the game i'd drop any of that line of thinking because i'm most definitely town and you'll be wasting your time

seeing as you think i'm scum, do you disagree with my lists i've been posting then? you seem to agree with a few names i've been putting up but still maintain that i'm scum which is strange that it's not evolved over that period of time

On May 22 2014 10:24 OdinOfPergo wrote:


That doesn't make very much sense to me.
So you're saying you think most of HF's list is right, and he's just perma bussing his entire team D1?
Like.. what?

On May 22 2014 10:26 Holyflare wrote:
your cav read is because he's only talking about steve for a long time right? + aggro

On May 22 2014 10:27 Cavalinho wrote:
Christ sqrt your reads are so bad I swear.

On May 22 2014 10:35 austinmcc wrote:

Can you...go through what you're thinking here? You agree with a bunch of reads, do you agree with the reasoning that HF uses or just the idea that this guy and that guy are mafia?

On May 22 2014 10:49 austinmcc wrote:
Any in particular you like more than others or dislike? I can understand agreeing with "modkillable" and stuff that summarizes as "low/no activity" on just general grounds, but a LOT of the reasoning at least in the main list is that.

On May 22 2014 10:56 austinmcc wrote:
What made you go fromto wanting to lynch him andLike, what's the reason behind the transition from "this is wonky but I think you're town" ---> "that was wonky and I want to lynch you"

On May 22 2014 11:04 austinmcc wrote:
Alrighty, thanks.

On May 23 2014 05:35 Blazinghand wrote:


You can't honestly believe you can actually find like, more than 2 people willing to lynch me, do you? I'm motherfuckin Blazinghand, the best player on TL Mafia, Claimer Extraordinary and Intelligent, He Who Doesn't Always Make Cases, But When He Does He Doesn't, The Catcher of the Three, The RNG Lyncher of Odin. Can you mess with those titles?

I think we both know you can't mess. Back down. It's over. It's always been over. A guy like you can't touch a guy like me.

On May 23 2014 08:32 Alakaslam wrote:

Can also play super Mario bros levels 1 and 3.

On May 23 2014 08:35 Alakaslam wrote:

Yeah she gave up trying to learn the end- those fast notes discombobulate her

On May 23 2014 08:47 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Can I say I love Steve this game?
like.... just love

On May 23 2014 08:49 27ninjabunnies wrote:


*cough*

Whatcha talking about, Willis?

On May 23 2014 08:50 Alakaslam wrote:
So far a bunch of towns.

BH
Hapahauli
Marv
(Oh look vet !)
Mattisfoolish
Austinmcc

And a scum read or two.

Mtamburini and Steveling.

On May 23 2014 09:44 Steveling wrote:
My own opinion is that Xatalos and Val are scum.
Also 2 of Kita/marvel/cav may be any combination of scum/3rd party with anti town win conditions.

On May 24 2014 05:21 Blazinghand wrote:
Seems like it's pretty obvious to me what the setup is, I don't knwo why you guys are so confused

town
scum - water/mercury
scum - lightning/jupitor
scum - fire/mars
scum - earth/earthplanet

Each scum faction has their own kp flavor and their own alignment, and probably win when they control the lynch or something like that. 1 kp is therefore unaccounted for. I wasn't shot or roleblocked.

On May 22 2014 19:00 Koshi wrote:

I am rereading that and to me it seems jampidampi started with questioning MZ about bunnies. MZ replies that bunnies made an "unguarded" comment and is likely town. jampidampi pressures MZ and is giving bunnies a scumread for being overly defensive. He is telling MZ that the way MZ clears Bunnies is wrong and that he should revisit that read. MZ doesn't do that and jampi gives MZ a light scumread for it.

This is pretty towny from Jampi tbh. quotes: ↓
+ Show Spoiler +
______

From reading Jampi filter is goes like this:
Jampi: Hey Bunnies I think you are scum. Let's interact.
(interacting with scumread)
Jampi: Hey MZ, do you agree with my scumread on Bunnies.
(Interacts with MZ, gives MZ scumread for not seeing what he sees)

This shows that jampi had a strong read on Bunnies at that time. Town mindset.

On May 24 2014 07:13 Valenius wrote:



SQRT. you asked me if i had anythign to say, i said it:

+ Show Spoiler +

On May 24 2014 08:16 Valenius wrote:
so.. when BH posted his case on someone who you thought town, and others have said they thought his case was bad, why weren't you on that and trying to not get a town read lynched? :s

On May 24 2014 08:19 Valenius wrote:
and 'going on meta reads'? you meta read me as scum before. i dont think i've done -that- much to change from my day 1 play?

On May 24 2014 08:23 layabout wrote:

"meta read" is bullshit

You have to know a persons play very well to do so correctly why don't you weight in on something that matters. Perhaps you can explain in detail why you think what you think about something relevant?

On May 24 2014 08:25 sqrtofneg1 wrote:

In simple english please?
I don't quite understand.

On May 24 2014 09:29 marvellosity wrote:

myself

On May 25 2014 10:09 layabout wrote:

actually playing mafia for cool points to counterbalance those lost from your name in the eyes of some?

On May 25 2014 10:10 kushm4sta wrote:
how about eigenvector

On May 25 2014 11:40 ritoky wrote:
aight, well i think this game has gotten a tad on the slow side, so let's try to add some to it. i don't really understand my roles usefullness, and i would like you to help me with it if you would be a doll.

i have the ability to tell if people have been "touched by magic", from what i understand this means that i can tell if people are magical, have been targeted by magic, or have magical abilities. so, i don't really think my info is extremely helpful, but it is info at least.

what i know is that 27ninjabunnies has been touched by magic. what do you think of that?

On May 26 2014 09:19 Xatalos wrote:


I once won like 6 games in a row. It's a bit dependent on luck too though. Usually there's like Mafia, SK, Arsonist etc. A ton of power roles. The night actions have a huge impact on the game.

On May 26 2014 09:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Are you now?

Please, what have I done to earn your suspicion?

On May 26 2014 09:31 Erandorr wrote:


Am I the fucking tryhard now? IM SUPPOSED TO BE THE AWFUL RETARD MAKE IT STOP

On May 26 2014 09:34 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Who are you asking this to?

On May 26 2014 09:40 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Ehhh, i don't like errandor's big soapbox thing. Most people prob call him town for it.

I think its a load of bullcrap. I went through a lot of filters myself, sifting through replies, read 200+ pages. I feel he is just complaining to complain.

I want to see more from him in the upcoming days. If he doesnt feel like reading through 200 pages, fine.
Start from here, make reads. But dont come into the thread, say you are going to give reads and read through everything, and then dont contribute much but a couple of paragraphs complaining...

As for tryharding.... Explain what you mean by that?

On May 26 2014 09:44 mattisfoolish wrote:

Sad thing is I've probably done more than 75% of the players in the game.

On May 26 2014 09:46 27ninjabunnies wrote:


What are you not convinced on?

On May 26 2014 09:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:


So what lacked in Vale's case that you dont agree with then?

On May 26 2014 09:51 mattisfoolish wrote:

As I said, would still gladly lynch, but there are much better targets. Like the players who haven't contributed anything to the town.

Also trying to figure out factions and stuff in a non-PM like this is really difficult. Night actions will be the only way. In the meantime, just lynch people who aren't doing anything for the town (kushm1sta, etc.). Much more efficient use of time.

On May 26 2014 09:56 Erandorr wrote:


Vanilla town is the most fun role in the game man, why do people not like it. Thanks again by the way for proving my point rofl. We have created an environment where "dont wanna play " has become a legit excuse. Can you answer my questions btw would be nice

On May 26 2014 10:08 Cavalinho wrote:


Why are you so obsessed with trying to kill me?

On May 26 2014 10:03 27ninjabunnies wrote:


my being town has nothing to do with magic.

On May 26 2014 10:16 27ninjabunnies wrote:


I answered above. I have nothing to do with magic. Like at all.

On May 26 2014 10:19 27ninjabunnies wrote:


For all i know, ritoky could be telling the truth.

But first, ritoky. Tell me exactly whatever you got this magic thing from said. Because the wording makes all the difference.

So here's possible situations.
1. Ritoky is scum and is lying and trying to get me lynched for my lack of activity day 2.
2. Ritoky is telling the truth, and somehow i got targeted by someone with a magic role in the night. Like i said, maybe town watcher? Mafia stalker? Something else? Idk. So many possibilities in a closed setup.
3. Im lying to all of you to get ritoky lynched.

#3 isnt even possible because im town.

Could be either 1 or 2.

On May 26 2014 10:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Yay!!! Im at the top of someone's scum list.

Now i get to major defend myself in the upcoming day(s) because people will start reading me wrong and now theres no possible way of me dying in the night.

Thanks sqrt. You made my life sooo much easier.

On May 26 2014 10:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
I've returned.

I've journeyed twice unto the abyss, both ventures being a success. I've glimpsed many endgames, and only a few to my liking.

The path to victory lies through [redacted]'s battered corpse!

He was not there. I saw a vision. A vision, of mine own endgame. Many were there... were they my foes? My allies? I could not say. All I knew was that I was victorious, and [redacted] was nowhere to be seen.

THEREFORE, the heretic [redacted] must be purged from this game!

All you who seek to win, direct your malice upon the heretic [redacted]!

I post this now as a tribute to those who whose blood floweth green!

On May 27 2014 04:25 Valenius wrote:
Was your case where you were speculating about magic?

On May 27 2014 04:36 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm... Who was Banks again?