On May 21 2014 06:02 Tehpoofter wrote:
##Vote: Mtamburini
Hi friend! What role you fake claiming this game? Squirttle? Charizard?
Is it weird that I thought this had something to do with Pokemon as well?
Looking over the rules with only alignments flipping and not roles I prob will not fake claim anything (Thats probably a lie and going to claim at least 3 roles this game.)
On May 21 2014 06:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:19 Tehpoofter wrote:On May 21 2014 06:17 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 06:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Is this normal forum play to just vote whoever you want within the first five minutes of the game?
Cause that seems kind of redundant, and stupid.
Sadly, this is very normal for forum play. I agree sadly. On the holyflare thing, if he's scum, why would no one lynch him? I'd lynch HF in a heartbeat if he aligned with mafia. lynch Tamburini with me bunnies so we can have a counter wagon going to holyflare. Oh I'd lynch tamburini in a heartbeat regardless of his alignment. Tamburini always scum/always bad for town. But sorry, I'm not voting yet. 
Bunnies please. Me claiming Bird Jesus won us that newbie game I got 3 solid town reads from it and left you guys with the rest of the scum team to devour.
On May 21 2014 06:28 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Oh, and flips are alignment only. This is important to know. Be weary of role claims, as they will be harder to confirm.
Obvious statements are obvious, before you say I am contradicting myself from previous comment in this post you said it as a warning to people as apposed to me answering a question to tehpoofter
ME WATCHING YOU BOIIIIIII
On May 21 2014 06:28 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:22 Koshi wrote:
Koshi is here.
I left my bath for you guys. Was typing a message about being in bath with 1% battery and then my phone died and I had to leave my bath.
I am still hot though. Steamy hot. Is there a way I can vote you like not to lynch but just for like being hot?
Tehpoofter being funny and trolly...... GMEOY Reading your tone in this game will be a lot easier than reading you in video mafia.
On May 21 2014 06:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:26 geript wrote:On May 21 2014 06:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is going to bed a very odd game with so many people I don't know.
In other news I'm getting real sick of rolling VT in massive theme-style games (or games in general). Really fucking boring.
Gonna be the same basic formula: either I suck balls and get left alive forever and get demoralized and whatnot, or I get a flash of genius and play well and get killed earlyish. The latter means I gotta try though and even then there are no guarantees. Blehhhhhhhhhhh
K so first order of business:
##vote: holyflare Suck it. I rolled vig. Want to make sure I don't shoot you today? Geript with that day 1 vig claim!!! How much you wanna bet it's a vt fake claiming?
Geript is taking a page from my playbook obviously. Bunnies you still sour I made that claim?
On May 21 2014 06:29 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:19 Tehpoofter wrote:On May 21 2014 06:17 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 06:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Is this normal forum play to just vote whoever you want within the first five minutes of the game?
Cause that seems kind of redundant, and stupid.
Sadly, this is very normal for forum play. I agree sadly. On the holyflare thing, if he's scum, why would no one lynch him? I'd lynch HF in a heartbeat if he aligned with mafia. lynch Tamburini with me bunnies so we can have a counter wagon going to holyflare. Oh I'd lynch tamburini in a heartbeat regardless of his alignment. Tamburini always scum/always bad for town. But sorry, I'm not voting yet. Girls can totally vote now. They made it a law back awhile ago. You should exercise your power!
Tehpoofter being funny and trolly again.... WARNING SIGNS PEOPLE WARNING SIGNS
On May 21 2014 06:37 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:33 Xatalos wrote:On May 21 2014 06:31 marvellosity wrote:On May 21 2014 06:30 Xatalos wrote:On May 21 2014 06:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 06:23 Xatalos wrote:On May 21 2014 06:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 06:15 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 21 2014 06:12 Steveling wrote:On May 21 2014 06:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is going to bed a very odd game with so many I don't know.
In other news I'm getting real sick of rolling VT in massive theme-style games (or games in general). Really fucking boring.
Gonna be the same basic formula: either I suck balls and get left alive forever and get demoralized and whatnot, or I get a flash of genius and play well and get killed earlyish. The latter means I gotta try though and even then there are no guarantees. Blehhhhhhhhhhh
K so first order of business:
##vote: holyflare Sold. ##vote: holyflare Lol now I'm honestly debating whether or not to seriously push this. If he's scum nobody's gonna lynch the guy so as much as I'd feel bad not letting him play, mebbe somebody shoot him or something just to remove all doubt?  I understand where the bolded logic comes from, in a normal game he wouldn't be lynched right away because scum wouldn't hop on the wagon. However in this game the same rules don't apply since there are more factions. I think it's very possible to see zero opposition wagons happen on scum. That actually adds a pretty interesting element to the game. Connection speculation is less useful - or more precisely said more complicated. I agree that's it's gonna be more complicated which is why I'd rather not use it as a heuristic for a D1 lynch, after we see a few flips we can start speculating again but right now I think it's more distracting than useful and we should focus on simple behavior based scum hunting. Yeah, it's going to be very difficult to decide today's lynch based on voting patterns etc. Since when are Day 1 lynches ever decided on voting patterns? What is this nonsense? For example, in a normal game it would be suspicious if everyone's votes just piled on one wagon. It's unlikely that he would be scum. With multiple factions things like that aren't as clear. Just cause multiple factions doesn't mean scum still won't hop on a wagon. Anyone pushing this logic is silly. They may be less likely but still likely to do so their win con is still to lynch non-scum so they will gladly lynch any faction... Pushing this further is scummy.
Finally something interesting spoken by Tehpoofter... warning signs fading...
When playing with multiple factions (both good and evil) they all have their own win conditions. It becomes harder to find who the actual town are in the game compared to the evil / good factions. There are 4 other factions in this game who can Identify one another in each faction they will be playing as a "team" to meet their condition of winning. As town we do not know who anyone is and who is aligned with us.
This is a game where town needs to reach out to eachother, find eachother and get them bad boys one lynch at a time.
On May 21 2014 06:44 kushm4sta wrote:because the game gets very big very fast. town stops reading. and separating lazy town from scum becomes very hard.
True story, kinda like kush for this.
On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.
You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be? I may have my eye on a few people. From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to ome out first day and take control of town. I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia. Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post.
Bunnies you got soooooooooooo mad when people wouldnt answer your questions in the newbie game, why dont you answer jamps?
On May 21 2014 06:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:35 geript wrote:On May 21 2014 06:32 Tehpoofter wrote:On May 21 2014 06:26 geript wrote:On May 21 2014 06:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is going to bed a very odd game with so many people I don't know.
In other news I'm getting real sick of rolling VT in massive theme-style games (or games in general). Really fucking boring.
Gonna be the same basic formula: either I suck balls and get left alive forever and get demoralized and whatnot, or I get a flash of genius and play well and get killed earlyish. The latter means I gotta try though and even then there are no guarantees. Blehhhhhhhhhhh
K so first order of business:
##vote: holyflare Suck it. I rolled vig. Want to make sure I don't shoot you today? OH DEAR GOD NO! With as often as you roll scum I may just have to policy shoot you. Or maybe I'll just shoot bunnies once she calls you a role. I haven't really decided quite yet. I'm just fucking stoked. Just because I read him super well in video mafia, doesn't mean It transfers here. However, even if I do read him as a role, not like Ima out that shit or anything. Let's NOT give mafia an advantage here.
Are you saying you read his body better than his tone? There are similarities between the 2 meduims of mafia and I know you play a lot of epic mafia and can read through BS content so I really dislike your response to geript.
On May 21 2014 06:47 bkqyrldp wrote:Nice. The game has just started and there is already many people I dislike. I guess that's to be expected in a game with 4 factions. Steveling is the first one for asking a neutral filler question, followed then by xatalos and marvelocity grabbing that opportunity to provide an easy fake contribution. From those 2 I dislike marvelocity the most, since xatalos was already there bantering, so I'll read less into his response for now. The other person is meapak_ziph. Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
wait there are four factions in this game?
Guess I might as well read the op then.
Wave that was a mighty suspicious post, sounds like you're trying to make excuses for future bad play... He came into the thread with a weak confusion comment and something that didn't need to be said. Your post is basically the last line, which is pretty weak if your intent is to gather info from wave. What's up Marv, steve, MZ?
I like this dude, especially the post on Meapak. Obvious statement is obvious ME NO LIKE YOU
On May 21 2014 06:49 Yell0w wrote:
So about this whole RNG thing, aren't scum players more likely to vote for OdinofPergo if he isn't in their faction since they don't even need a reason to vote him? They can just claim they're doing it for RNG and get a lynch on someone who isn't aligned with them?
Wouldn't a better way be to each claim we are RNG voting, then use the RNG on the post in which we claimed it and then vote for whomever our own post said? So that there is no way to know if you're going to lynch someone of your own faction or not so it's riskier for scum to go by RNG? Maybe I'm completely wrong here.
This post made my brain bleed. Not sure if mafia or just likes posting scummy things as town... Yellow give me a goddamn bone here there are other people I would like to tunnel on.
On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.
You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be? I may have my eye on a few people. From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to come out first day and take control of town. I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia. Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post. If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why. But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter. But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game. If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched. So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk.
Defensive bunnies is defensive, GMEOY. You know you are allowed to be wrong right?
On May 21 2014 06:52 sqrtofneg1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:49 Yell0w wrote:
So about this whole RNG thing, aren't scum players more likely to vote for OdinofPergo if he isn't in their faction since they don't even need a reason to vote him? They can just claim they're doing it for RNG and get a lynch on someone who isn't aligned with them?
Wouldn't a better way be to each claim we are RNG voting, then use the RNG on the post in which we claimed it and then vote for whomever our own post said? So that there is no way to know if you're going to lynch someone of your own faction or not so it's riskier for scum to go by RNG? Maybe I'm completely wrong here. I like this post, but if OdinofPergo dies and flips as an anti-town alignment, we kill yellow.
*ACHOOOO*
Sorry allergic to BS.
What if he flips town do we still lynch yellow? Explain your nonsense with some sense.
On May 21 2014 06:56 Steveling wrote:I don't like how haven't jumped on me because of this post Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:48 Steveling wrote:
I will now call upon my previous town game where I was the only player to vote for scum the entire game, lmao, and I played like I didn't give a fuck, like I will do in this game.
So, for everyone who has ever played with me, you should know that I'm town as town can possibly town. We have many scum right now active, mark my words.
Lets just imagine a game where scum never talked in a game. Would that not be the easiest game in the world?
More obvious statements that are obvious. ME NO LIKE YOUUUUUUUUUUU
On May 21 2014 06:57 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.
You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be? I may have my eye on a few people. From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to come out first day and take control of town. I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia. Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post. If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why. But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter. But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game. If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched. So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk. WoS probably town, that whiny thing about the VT thing looked legit. Just because he does it each time. Steveling also town. gutread. Poofter dnu. Your Master has spoken his first words of Wisdom.
MASTER? Pfft
WoS claiming VT is towny since when? Very frowned upon where I play mafia.
Steveling town? guttread? My gut says Leee mafia. Maybe you had something bad for dinner. Come over to my place Ill cook for the both of us and maybe are gut reads will align.
Poofter read? I agree not sure on poof but leaning scummy.
On May 21 2014 06:57 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:55 27ninjabunnies wrote:
@Thrawn:
Do you have anything more to contribute?
Basically saying Hello and this going to be difficult is not protown or helping in any way.
when I have something to say I'll say it
Bunnies looking to put pressure else and off of her, looooooking sccummy again.
On May 21 2014 07:04 Yell0w wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:57 Xatalos wrote:
If most players randomed their votes separately, it would just end up with scum getting to choose their preferred lynch. LMAO I disagree, if most people randomed their votes, the ones who didn't would instantly look scummy and we could lynch them tomorrow. Everyone would RNG their votes if most people did it, because they'd know how bad it would make them look otherwise.
Again this post made my brain bleed. Yellow if this is your town play and how you scumhunt then I for towns sake I hope you are the cop so you can get some REAL information and dont have to try these unrealistic tactics to catch scum.
On May 21 2014 07:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:05 Holyflare wrote:On May 21 2014 07:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 07:02 Holyflare wrote:
#logic So sexy Now do you have any other ideas other than that? bunnies talked about mafia definitely being present in game so also mafia So me pointing out that there are probably a few mafia that are present, makes me mafia? Cause I would so point out something that indicates myself as mafia.
ARE YOU HAPPY TO BE PLAYING IN THIS GAME? YOU DONT SOUND LIKE IT HOLYFLARE!
@bunnies Why not? Would be a great play until you get cop checked.
On May 21 2014 07:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:
That was sarcasm btw
OMFG WE GOT EM BOYS SARCASM = MAFIA, look at her post in newbie game
*dances in chair*
On May 21 2014 07:10 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I was about to say, BOONE IS IN THIS GAME?
Then realized he meant me.
How disappointing. I wish I was as awesome as boone.
Appealing to emotion, wants us to feel sorry she is not as good as boone but I think her forum play > boones video play.
Your fake sadness will not trick me!
On May 21 2014 07:10 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:09 Tehpoofter wrote:On May 21 2014 06:57 Koshi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.
You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be? I may have my eye on a few people. From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to come out first day and take control of town. I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia. Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post. If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why. But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter. But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game. If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched. So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk. WoS probably town, that whiny thing about the VT thing looked legit. Just because he does it each time. Steveling also town. gutread. Poofter dnu. Your Master has spoken his first words of Wisdom. Whats "dnu" stand for? Im pretty sure he meant "don't know"
More like Do not understand!
Trying to read tehpoofter in any mafia game is difficult. I think this medium will be easier to read him. So far still leaning scummy. And bunnies is also still scummy.
On May 21 2014 07:11 Yell0w wrote:SHE USED SARCASM! LET'S LYNCH HER!
FINALLY SOME LOGIC THANK YOU YELLOW!
On May 21 2014 07:14 27ninjabunnies wrote:
@HF- I am very much town this game. Pointing out mafia things in my post does not mean I'm mafia. It means I'm assesing the game and trying to find out who mafia are. But nice try in trolling me.
@Meapak- yeah, im a her.
No it means your mafia. Holy flare is on to something. He sees the same thing as me.
But HOLYFLARE are you having fun yet?
On May 21 2014 07:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So here's where I am at.
I don't necessarily like thrawn. Not talking isn't productive for town. Whether he's stubborn town or straight up mafia, I'd lynch him in a heartbeat.
I also want to hear more from Jamp. He seems to be focussing on the 'reads' that I said I had within the first couple of pages, and then questions someone else on what they think about my reads, yet he hasn't really said anything about what he thinks. Also, why is he focussing on my reads? Not saying mine are bad, but im a new player, one he hasn't played with. So why does it matter necessarily what I think?
Hell talk when he wants to just like you said you wanted to. Why are you attacking him for something that someone did to you? I dont think you liked it but you think it was towny of you to hold back your reads.
New player is no excuse you know better than that. Just because you dont know anyone doesnt mean you cant read them. Epicmafia (the site where you have over 2000 games on) are played with strangers all the time so what makes this different.
I think we got a mafia here everyone.
On May 21 2014 07:25 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:22 Steveling wrote:On May 21 2014 07:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 21 2014 07:21 Steveling wrote:On May 21 2014 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
if you're gonna play like last game i will actually policy lynch you and i honestly don't care HF confirmed scum guys. Like 100000000000000000% Koshi and poofter pls vote him. steve mang gonna need more than that son Read our last game, it's not long. That's the most halfassed response I've ever seen Firstly you expect me to do work which is a nono Secondly you refuse to do work yourself which is unacceptable.
Why appeal to Koshi and poofter?
And I agree with Meapak
I didnt want to read the first 200 posts of this game why would I want to read more?
STILL NO LIKE YOUUUUUUUUUU
On May 21 2014 07:30 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:28 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 07:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So here's where I am at.
I don't necessarily like thrawn. Not talking isn't productive for town. Whether he's stubborn town or straight up mafia, I'd lynch him in a heartbeat.
I also want to hear more from Jamp. He seems to be focussing on the 'reads' that I said I had within the first couple of pages, and then questions someone else on what they think about my reads, yet he hasn't really said anything about what he thinks. Also, why is he focussing on my reads? Not saying mine are bad, but im a new player, one he hasn't played with. So why does it matter necessarily what I think?
Before I continue, were you annoyed with my guestions? No, questions are good. They get reads. Reads are good. So the questions were not annoying. I was more annoyed by the fact you said I was avoiding what you were asking. I think I had made it clear as to why. But please continue. I want to hear more.
He asked you questions to get reads.
You did not answer them.
He got no read.
So how towny have you been this game on a scale of 0 to mafia bunnies?
On May 21 2014 08:13 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 08:10 Holyflare wrote:On May 21 2014 08:06 Hapahauli wrote:Can we stop troll voting and talk about someone that's actually scummy? On May 21 2014 07:54 Hapahauli wrote:... @ EveryoneLet's kill Valenius: + Show Spoiler +On May 21 2014 06:22 Valenius wrote:
9 player day 1's normally confuse me. gg. On May 21 2014 06:24 Valenius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:22 Koshi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:22 Valenius wrote:
9 player day 1's normally confuse me. gg. Sheep me sheeping marv. ezgame ezlife. i thought you were hosting. wtf. ##vote: Koshi On May 21 2014 06:29 Valenius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:28 Koshi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:27 Koshi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:24 Valenius wrote:On May 21 2014 06:22 Koshi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:22 Valenius wrote:
9 player day 1's normally confuse me. gg. Sheep me sheeping marv. ezgame ezlife. i thought you were hosting. wtf. ##vote: Koshi Even though I am a divine being in this game. I ascended and joined the plebs. I don't have anything against plebs though, they are simple but amusing beings. I allow the smartest of them to call me Koshi. You can call me Master. I might have meant descended. It is just hard for me to grasp going downwards. It was such a nice post, I wasn't going to correct it for you. On May 21 2014 06:50 Valenius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:49 Yell0w wrote:
So about this whole RNG thing, aren't scum players more likely to vote for OdinofPergo if he isn't in their faction since they don't even need a reason to vote him? They can just claim they're doing it for RNG and get a lynch on someone who isn't aligned with them?
Wouldn't a better way be to each claim we are RNG voting, then use the RNG on the post in which we claimed it and then vote for whomever our own post said? So that there is no way to know if you're going to lynch someone of your own faction or not so it's riskier for scum to go by RNG? Maybe I'm completely wrong here. I like that, I haven't thought it through - But I like it. RNG V2 On May 21 2014 06:52 Valenius wrote:
Actually, won't it cause the same theoretical situation, just with votes more spread? On May 21 2014 07:44 Valenius wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 21 2014 07:42 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:17 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'd lynch HF in a heartbeat if he aligned with mafia. Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Oh I'd lynch tamburini in a heartbeat regardless of his alignment. Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sorry HF you've broken my heart too many times. ![[image loading]](http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120309173425/goldensun/images/thumb/b/ba/GSHeart.jpg/240px-GSHeart.jpg) Chalis (ハート Heart) is an antagonist in Golden Sun: Dark Dawn. Together with Blados, she is one of the commanders of a secretive military nation named Tuaparang. All three are bad guys taunting us in the thread. I rest my case. LOL ##unvoted koshi btw On May 21 2014 07:48 Valenius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:47 Holyflare wrote:On May 21 2014 07:45 Steveling wrote:On May 21 2014 07:43 Holyflare wrote:On May 21 2014 07:36 marvellosity wrote:Xatalos, I really have no idea, nor do I care, because I don't particularly strive to be consistent from game to game. Honestly the fact that you're beating away at this makes you look kinda better though, so maybe I'll unvote you if I'm feeling nice On May 21 2014 07:32 Holyflare wrote:
yes please do
##unvote
##vote steveling
You do realise, though, that Steve's semi-ridiculous behaviour makes it less likely he's mafia though, yes? (or traditional mafia. I'm just gonna say town for town and mafia for all the other factions until something tells me otherwise) On May 21 2014 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
if you're gonna play like last game i will actually policy lynch you and i honestly don't care despite me being scum in the game he was talking about we literally only won because he was doing what he was doing as town and was an easy mislynch so i'm just going to get rid of him until he learns Yes you literally only won because of my bad play as town right? Not because NO ONE, LITERALLY NO ONE VOTED FOR A SCUM IN ALL 3 DAYS. Oh wait, except me. ^^^ case in point anyway bh if you take out newbie games towns recently have a 40%+ chance of finding mafia day 1 by lynching and so it's obv far better not to rng If you add in newbie games, we just lynch town/any claimed power roles. ezpz 6 posts, all of them a mixture of "+1'ing" other people and irrelevant comments. His filter reads a lot like someone who's artificially trying to insert himself in discussion. ##Vote: Valenius i think he's town for this post: On May 21 2014 07:50 Valenius wrote:On May 21 2014 07:48 Blazinghand wrote:On May 21 2014 07:45 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 07:33 Blazinghand wrote:On May 21 2014 06:40 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Look, I know you guys all hate RNG lynch but with 4 factions there's gonna be way more scum than usual, right? This means RNG has a much higher chance than usual of hitting scum. This is possibly the best time EVER for using RNg. Everyone lynch OdinofPergo, because statistically speaking he is scum. Why does more factions = more scum? Wouldn't scum numbers stay the same to keep the ratio of scum/all players balanced? As a member of the balance team, I can assure you that a multifactional game supports more scum than a non-multifactional game. There are a number of reasons for this. Part of it is that, say, in a 2-scum-faction game, half of the scum will push on each other for reasons unrelated to bussing, because they can't distinguish between "scum on the other scum team" and "town". They'll even shoot into each other sometimes. Town loses the ability to make some associative tells, but the amount of crosstalk from scum accidentally pushing or shooting each other makes up for it. 2+2 scum with each group having 1 kp will never be as effective as 4 scum with 2 kp working together at killing town. That being said, you never mentioned any real objection to the concept of RNG, you just questioned my estimate of scum in this game. I can only assume you didn't object to actual RNG because you think it would be fine if more factions = more scum. So, now that I've shown that more factions = more scum, you'll vote odin, yes? I would need some kind of hard evindence that there are multiple scum factions in this game to RNG lynch, since those additional factions could be third parties and that wouldn't necessarily increase the scum numbers. The definition of factions pretty much means they have to be scum aligned. Otherwise we'd just call them "blues". Even if they were like 3p factions or whatever, we'd still want them dead, right? Also nice goalpost moving. 1. "do more factions = more scum? wouldn't scum numbers stay the same to keep the ratio... balanced?" as a question implies that you, like me, expected all or most of the factions to be scum factions. 2. but then "additional factions could be third parties..." later on is what you say after I show solve #1. So, what's the deal? Why the resistance on the odinofpergo lynch??? From OP: "Town-Wincondition: Eliminate all Factions, which endanger town!" Not necessarily all scum aligned? Are you trolling me or are you serious? Pulling publicly-available information from the OP does not make someone town. Also, why do you have your vote on the most obvious townie in the thread?
HOW ARE THEY THE MOST OBVIOUS TOWNIE! Explanation is needed.
On May 21 2014 08:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
k HF and Steve both of you need to shut the fuck up.
Make a case and then leave for a bit to cool off.
Kita your response only gave me a semi :/
I got a role read on meapak. He got the Official role. He is here to break up fights and keep peace. Lets not start any more fights or else he might meet his win condition of breaking up 3 fights.
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despite me being scum in the game he was talking about we literally only won because he was doing what he was doing as town and was an easy mislynch so i'm just going to get rid of him until he learns Yes you literally only won because of my bad play as town right? Not because NO ONE, LITERALLY NO ONE VOTED FOR A SCUM IN ALL 3 DAYS. Oh wait, except me. ^^^ case in point anyway bh if you take out newbie games towns recently have a 40%+ chance of finding mafia day 1 by lynching and so it's obv far better not to rng And if this game had no newbies in it, I'd take your statistics under advisement. Also in games like 7 town 2 scum (which it ypically use) you'd expect a 25% chance of getting scum anyways, 40% is pretty close. On May 21 2014 07:47 Tehpoofter wrote:On May 21 2014 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:On May 21 2014 07:39 marvellosity wrote:
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As you're probably well aware, I've never RNGed, never supported RNG, and never will. Draw your own conclusions :p I know you disagree with me philosophically about the usefulness of RNG, I just figured maybe in a massively multifactional setup you might find it alluring. Well, next time then! On May 21 2014 07:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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Actually yeah, I'm not even gonna argue with you. I play mafia for fun and us all picking an RNG then sitting back and seeing what happens doesn't seem fun to me. Plus I at least have enough faith in my own deduction and reasoning skills to think that I have just as good a chance of finding scum with analysis as RNG does. Ok, so that's a reason. I will note though that historically, TL towns tend not to statistically significantly outperform RNG on D1. I'm not proposing RNG for no reason; I think lynching OdinofPergo is our best chance today. If nothing else, I guarantee that pulling this off will have two results 1) it will be legendary 2 ) it will cause a massive shitstorm because everyone hates RNG. this shitstorm will give us lots of things to base reads off of for D2 What reads do you hope to garner? Like based upon the lynch of Odin? Like who defends/pushes him? Why not just do that on someone who actually does something scummy. I think that I'd rather lose to being bad that win to RNG... I'm not playing a slot machine I'm playing mafia. RNG is bad and you should feel bad. Why not someone else? Because RNG. RNG is the best and I feel good. Obviously you don't really believe in the strategy. If someone thinks they're not better than RNG then they should just vote and leave the thread and come back in 48 hours and see how they did. But you clearly said you think you're a good player aka better than RNG so you don't even believe in an RNG lynch. And I'm going to vote on who I think is scummy. Hopefully its right but even if its wrong then I will be happy that I had some influence over it and not just randomness  Last time I'm commenting on this btw as its silly and unhelpful to town. I'm the best player in TL Mafia and I believe in RNG lynch because it's objectively the best tool. The definition of being a good player is basically using RNG lynch, in a setup like this. You don't just vote randomly and leave the thread, because most people don't do RNG lynch. You make sure everyone else follows you too. By your logic, if I have a scumread on someone, I should just vote them and leave the thread, my job is done. Typical poof. So lets say we had an RNG shot and a lynch. BUT you could only base one on RNG. Who do you find scummy in this thread so far that you would have to way in on for the non-RNG portion? We don't have an RNg shot and a lynch though, we just have a lynch. Let's RNG it. Dodging productive questions is dumb and scummy and you know it. ##Vote: BlazinghandContribute or die. You think a newbie like you has a snowball's chance in hell of pushing a lynch on a vet like me? How cute
This is tehpoofter I like. Moved you to neutral. I think BH is town and is just fishing for reactions to his RNG lynch, kinda like him for it if he is doing it for the reasons I think he is doing it. Like tehpoofter now because he realises like I do BH should not get a free pass into the next day for pushing RNG and should actually contribute to the game.
BH we will summon the DM group and push you to be lynched. We like lynching people who think they are unlynchable ';-)
On May 21 2014 08:26 27ninjabunnies wrote:
What happened to completely ignoring BH?
BH is more likely town here. Putting himself in the spotlight of town would be stupid as mafia unless he has many partners or knows he can get multiple mislynches within the next couple of days if he has town support and it's worth his lynch.
But BH is pushing a losing cause here. He doesn't have much of support at all.
Shit me and bunnies agreed on something...... Do I really have to reevaluate you?
Ive read up to the Hearthstone video. Thus far.
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