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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 21 2014 22:23 GMT
#1624
Also have I professed my love of beets here? Or did you just randomly pick one of my favorite vegetables/foods.

Everyone should go roast some beets and put some ginger/scallions/oil on em.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 21 2014 22:29 GMT
#1629
On May 22 2014 07:26 Alakaslam wrote:
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On May 22 2014 07:23 austinmcc wrote:
Also have I professed my love of beets here? Or did you just randomly pick one of my favorite vegetables/foods.

Everyone should go roast some beets and put some ginger/scallions/oil on em.

Please tell me you are in the west? My neighbor is the president of OceanMist's desert division, I can get so much fresh produce and he knows the art of Grillen well (see Zatic and blog, and his neighbor is a East German woman who is also amazing but later) basically this is great wisdom
Atlanta

I would super highly recommend slicing em into chunks, roasting in the oven, and adding just some ginger/scallions in oil to it. If you want to Grill em, usually you gotta wrap em in foil and do em whole.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 21 2014 22:40 GMT
#1643
So you'll totally sheep me, especially over that poser marv, but you'll sheep me on something you sort of entirely disagree with.

What I wrote about him included calling those things no bueno, the ones you seem to like.

Also let's talk about this:
On May 22 2014 07:30 Koshi wrote:
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1) 27ninjabunnies talks a whole lot about herself. I am kinda gonna sheep tamburini's reads on bunnies. I read a post and I am neutral, then I read the next one and I find it defensive and with 1 million I's in it, which puts me off. Then I read the next one and I am back to neutral. Idk, it just leaves me a bit skeptical because last game I played with her she was oozing town out of her pores it was so obvious, and the fact that I don't have that feeling right now gives me pause and concern. That said, she is contributing and typing seriously which is significantly more than most people (including myself) have done thus far.

This quote is either a lie, or it is town. Mafia is not able to feel like this. I wasn't in this newbie game nor did I read it but if they both were town and if it is true that rikoty was able to instant read her town than this read is pretty ok in my book. It isn't that wishy washy. There are maybe more sentences than needed but each sentence adds some more meaning.


Specifically:
  • HOLY BALLS CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHAT MTAMBURINI READ RITOKY IS SHEEPING RE: BUNNIES? Look at mtam's filter. mtam was SCUMMY on bunnies, then "moving towards neutral" because they agreed on something (moving towards neutral indicates....SCUMMY still), and later back to scummy again. Seriously, go look at mtam's bunnies stuff. Ritoky is "sheeping tamburini's reads on bunnies" which were "scummy --> moving towards neutral --> scummy".
  • READ THE ABOVE THING AGAIN. HE IS SHEEPING SOMEONE'S SCUMREAD. EXCEPT HE THINKS THE PERSON IS MAYBE TOWN OR MAYBE NEUTRAL. THESE ARE NOT THE SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME.


##vote: Ritoky
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 21 2014 22:44 GMT
#1648
IGNORE LAST POST. LAST POST WRONG.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 21 2014 22:45 GMT
#1650
You and koshi gots different feels than I do.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 21 2014 22:58 GMT
#1660
ritoky can you summarize how you think sqrt played as town, and then what specific changes you see in this game from those?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 21 2014 22:58 GMT
#1661
On May 22 2014 07:57 ritoky wrote:
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On May 22 2014 07:40 austinmcc wrote:
So you'll totally sheep me, especially over that poser marv, but you'll sheep me on something you sort of entirely disagree with.

What I wrote about him included calling those things no bueno, the ones you seem to like.

Also let's talk about this:
On May 22 2014 07:30 Koshi wrote:
1) 27ninjabunnies talks a whole lot about herself. I am kinda gonna sheep tamburini's reads on bunnies. I read a post and I am neutral, then I read the next one and I find it defensive and with 1 million I's in it, which puts me off. Then I read the next one and I am back to neutral. Idk, it just leaves me a bit skeptical because last game I played with her she was oozing town out of her pores it was so obvious, and the fact that I don't have that feeling right now gives me pause and concern. That said, she is contributing and typing seriously which is significantly more than most people (including myself) have done thus far.

This quote is either a lie, or it is town. Mafia is not able to feel like this. I wasn't in this newbie game nor did I read it but if they both were town and if it is true that rikoty was able to instant read her town than this read is pretty ok in my book. It isn't that wishy washy. There are maybe more sentences than needed but each sentence adds some more meaning.


Specifically:
  • HOLY BALLS CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHAT MTAMBURINI READ RITOKY IS SHEEPING RE: BUNNIES? Look at mtam's filter. mtam was SCUMMY on bunnies, then "moving towards neutral" because they agreed on something (moving towards neutral indicates....SCUMMY still), and later back to scummy again. Seriously, go look at mtam's bunnies stuff. Ritoky is "sheeping tamburini's reads on bunnies" which were "scummy --> moving towards neutral --> scummy".
  • READ THE ABOVE THING AGAIN. HE IS SHEEPING SOMEONE'S SCUMREAD. EXCEPT HE THINKS THE PERSON IS MAYBE TOWN OR MAYBE NEUTRAL. THESE ARE NOT THE SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME.


##vote: Ritoky


I think you misread mtam's filter, I was moreso commenting on how I felt his movement back and forth from neutral to scummy, back to neutral was how I was feeling about bunnies.

However since then mtam has gotten a lot worse in my mind.
Aye. I went the wrong way on something, my post below the quoted one is DISREGARD MY LAST POST. LAST POST WRONG. or something.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 21 2014 23:07 GMT
#1678
On May 22 2014 08:01 Koshi wrote:
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On May 22 2014 06:19 austinmcc wrote:



FIRST SIZEABLE POST
On May 21 2014 13:38 ritoky wrote:
1) 27ninjabunnies talks a whole lot about herself. I am kinda gonna sheep tamburini's reads on bunnies. I read a post and I am neutral, then I read the next one and I find it defensive and with 1 million I's in it, which puts me off. Then I read the next one and I am back to neutral. Idk, it just leaves me a bit skeptical because last game I played with her she was oozing town out of her pores it was so obvious, and the fact that I don't have that feeling right now gives me pause and concern. That said, she is contributing and typing seriously which is significantly more than most people (including myself) have done thus far.
Neutral, town, neutral. Skeptical because she "oozed town" last game, but notice how his read was never SCUM. If someone oozes town one game, and doesn't the next game, you don't conclude they're town/neutral, you conclude they AREN'T town at some point. But there's absolutely no calling of scum, just...neutral/pause and concern.

2) I find the people who were highly opposed to the RNG lynch on day 1 questionable. Especially those who said things along the lines of "I think I am better than RNG". I think if you say that on day 2 you can sell me quite a bit on it, as I would not be in favor of an RNG lynch on any day after day 1. Usually there is enough information to make singinifcantly informed guesses by that point in the game. But when you say something along the lines of being "better than RNG" on day 1, it makes me think that you have more information than I do. Which very likely means that you are scum.
Throwaway RNG comment. People who think they can do better than RNG must have outside information, they're mafia. Not "people scumhunt and think their suspects are mafia, and prefer to lynch them." This is an altogether curious statement for me, I can think of reasons to like/dislike RNG, but finding people who dislike it scummy SOLELY because they think they've found mafia or CAN find mafia is...no bueno.

Point 1 is wrong Austin. He was going between scummy and neutral. Same as the not specified gender person that has a name that rhymes with that thing you slap with the bells on the side.

point 2 is indeed curious. But is it mafia? What is the mafia mindset? Is he trying to put an idea in the thread? Is he forcing town to look deeper into the people that think the rng lynch is good? Putting more dirt on those people? I don't feel that. He is pretty general talking about "these people". It's not like he is trying to incriminate 1 person. He just gives his opinion.


Anyway. I am going back off on all this giving reads thing I am now doing or I am going to get too involved in this D1 lynch. I don't want that.
The mafia mindset is that town scumhunts. Town needs to scumhunt, wants to scumhunt, it's what town does and how town wins the game. "people who think they can do better than RNG must have outside information" and "I find people questionable who say they think they are better than RNG" is essentially...."I think that scumhunting is useless." Not in quite so strong terms, yes, but "people who think they can do better than RNG" is a set of people who have reads they think are mafia. They want to lynch THIS GUY and not RANDOM GUY.

In essence, you're just straight pooh poohing on scumhunting by saying there's no reason to think anyone can outperform RNG, and, moreover, you actively think the people who believe they have caught scum ARE QUESTIONABLE. That's the mafia mindset, if you NEED one to be there. People who think they can find scum are questionable, people who scumhunt are questionable, just bow down to RNGsus.

It's also just a bit of the opposite side of the "oh man, that guy is thinking what I'm thinking so he's town!" coin. People hate RNG for all sorts of reasons, but I've never seen any townie think "RNG is good because there's no way we can do better than RNG. In fact, anyone who THINKS they can catch scum on D1 is questionable."
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 21 2014 23:09 GMT
#1679
On May 22 2014 08:06 Holyflare wrote:
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On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.

I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.

Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.

I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town.


Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time.


where are you gettin this info from? The database only has 2 of his games in it and they are both scum,

Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia VII Mafia Framer Survived
Cell Mini Mafia Mafia Vanilla Survived Day 3

The only game he's played town in is in yuma where he was just spammy because he thought he caught someone and was being stubborn. I get that he looks towny this game but why are you implying this is "obvious town meta"?
If this is true this is my favorite post so far this game, lol.

HE'S TOWN, HE DOES THIS ALL THE TIME

UMMMM, HIS GAMES ARE MOSTLY AS MAFIA
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 22 2014 01:35 GMT
#1825
On May 22 2014 09:41 Holyflare wrote:
austin are you still around? you still want to lynch ritoky even though half your case on him fell through?
Wasn't. Now am.

No, don't want to lynch him today. Part of my case is not there. Him being worried about people who think they can catch scum is still scummy to me, and I'm still not buying the small game --> big game = wishy washy thing that people seem to like.

But part of my case WAS bass ackwards, and...I don't know what to do with his responses to me. Like he posts a new single post that's a list of people, answers me on a thing, then jets. If all we get is list list list, don't forget him. Will unvote.


On May 22 2014 10:22 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
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On May 22 2014 10:20 Holyflare wrote:
On May 22 2014 10:18 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 10:16 Holyflare wrote:
well let's talk through this read on me then because i get a feeling i already know what you'll say about cav and your read on me is really strange because half of it was disproved

so what part of my play is different that makes you think i'm scum? would i be so "carefree" if i was trying to push lynches on not-scum? carefree isn't something i associate with mafia play

Yeah, carefree isn't the best word.
But something is different. I'm not sure what, but something is different.


well like i said to steve at the start of the game i'd drop any of that line of thinking because i'm most definitely town and you'll be wasting your time

seeing as you think i'm scum, do you disagree with my lists i've been posting then? you seem to agree with a few names i've been putting up but still maintain that i'm scum which is strange that it's not evolved over that period of time

I agree with quite a few of the names you have in your lists, almost all, actually.
But I do still think that you're scum.
Can you...go through what you're thinking here? You agree with a bunch of reads, do you agree with the reasoning that HF uses or just the idea that this guy and that guy are mafia?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 22 2014 01:40 GMT
#1826
On May 22 2014 09:15 mattisfoolish wrote:
Austin, I'm not sure what your purpose was in asking me that question. Are you looking for proof that I am who I say I am? It's in the hydra name and signature. I don't think there's a specific rule about lying about this sort of thing but I feel it would be in bad taste to do so.
Was, but drop it, ongoing game, etc.

That one post on slam just read very unlike other posts of yours, imo, if you're Foolishness. Not sure if bad taste or next level smurf/hydra strats to fakeclaim the person behind the keyboard.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 22 2014 01:49 GMT
#1831
On May 22 2014 10:46 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 10:35 austinmcc wrote:

On May 22 2014 10:22 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 10:20 Holyflare wrote:
On May 22 2014 10:18 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 10:16 Holyflare wrote:
well let's talk through this read on me then because i get a feeling i already know what you'll say about cav and your read on me is really strange because half of it was disproved

so what part of my play is different that makes you think i'm scum? would i be so "carefree" if i was trying to push lynches on not-scum? carefree isn't something i associate with mafia play

Yeah, carefree isn't the best word.
But something is different. I'm not sure what, but something is different.


well like i said to steve at the start of the game i'd drop any of that line of thinking because i'm most definitely town and you'll be wasting your time

seeing as you think i'm scum, do you disagree with my lists i've been posting then? you seem to agree with a few names i've been putting up but still maintain that i'm scum which is strange that it's not evolved over that period of time

I agree with quite a few of the names you have in your lists, almost all, actually.
But I do still think that you're scum.
Can you...go through what you're thinking here? You agree with a bunch of reads, do you agree with the reasoning that HF uses or just the idea that this guy and that guy are mafia?

I like his reasoning and his reads.
But I do still think that he's mafia.
Any in particular you like more than others or dislike? I can understand agreeing with "modkillable" and stuff that summarizes as "low/no activity" on just general grounds, but a LOT of the reasoning at least in the main list is that.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 22 2014 01:56 GMT
#1836
On May 22 2014 10:51 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 10:49 austinmcc wrote:
On May 22 2014 10:46 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 10:35 austinmcc wrote:

On May 22 2014 10:22 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 10:20 Holyflare wrote:
On May 22 2014 10:18 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 10:16 Holyflare wrote:
well let's talk through this read on me then because i get a feeling i already know what you'll say about cav and your read on me is really strange because half of it was disproved

so what part of my play is different that makes you think i'm scum? would i be so "carefree" if i was trying to push lynches on not-scum? carefree isn't something i associate with mafia play

Yeah, carefree isn't the best word.
But something is different. I'm not sure what, but something is different.


well like i said to steve at the start of the game i'd drop any of that line of thinking because i'm most definitely town and you'll be wasting your time

seeing as you think i'm scum, do you disagree with my lists i've been posting then? you seem to agree with a few names i've been putting up but still maintain that i'm scum which is strange that it's not evolved over that period of time

I agree with quite a few of the names you have in your lists, almost all, actually.
But I do still think that you're scum.
Can you...go through what you're thinking here? You agree with a bunch of reads, do you agree with the reasoning that HF uses or just the idea that this guy and that guy are mafia?

I like his reasoning and his reads.
But I do still think that he's mafia.
Any in particular you like more than others or dislike? I can understand agreeing with "modkillable" and stuff that summarizes as "low/no activity" on just general grounds, but a LOT of the reasoning at least in the main list is that.


I think you're town.
Jampi and Ceph are higher up in my list.
Thrawn seems town.
What made you go from
On May 21 2014 12:04 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
@Ceph, I disagree on your case. I think bunnies is mafia.
However, I don't think you're mafia. Although it's a bit strange you went straight for her, I think you're town.
I would, however, like to see what your reads are, other than bunnies.
to wanting to lynch him and
On May 22 2014 10:21 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
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On May 22 2014 10:19 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 22 2014 10:18 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Oh, and I want to lynch Ceph too.


Why Ceph?

Regardless of what you are reading me as, what do you think of Ceph's case on me?

I don't like how Ceph jumped right on you, as soon as he came into the thread. Plus, as many others have stated, the case itself isn't all that good.
Like, what's the reason behind the transition from "this is wonky but I think you're town" ---> "that was wonky and I want to lynch you"
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 22 2014 02:04 GMT
#1841
Alrighty, thanks.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 22 2014 02:08 GMT
#1844
What do you make of Koshi saying he'd sheep me over silly old marv, then pretty much entirely disagreeing with me? Seemed almost too blatantly wtf for him to be watching what he posts.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 22 2014 02:08 GMT
#1845
above @Pookie Pie
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 22 2014 02:16 GMT
#1849
On May 22 2014 11:10 geript wrote:
Koshi is likely town from his play. You should look at Layabout's reads. The last one is especially good.
POOKIE PIE READ THE LIST AGAIN. LOOK FOR WORDS THAT RHYME WITH BOSHI.

Jampi I have a note that says "look through to see if he asks so many questions" cuz 90% of his early stuff is just ?????? Haven't done so yet.

mtam's messy/enthusiastic stuff reads like the last newbie

koshi i don't like the read on

WoS dunno. And right now, the disciples of ABBA care not for the Anyone vs. Steveling show.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 22 2014 02:18 GMT
#1850
On May 22 2014 11:15 Holyflare wrote:
Austin what do you make of mz saying there's a red between me/hapa/steve because we're the ones shitting up the thread?
I think that MZ is giving short shrift to the other thread shitters or attempted-thread-shitters.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 22 2014 02:26 GMT
#1853
On May 22 2014 11:22 Holyflare wrote:
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On May 22 2014 11:18 austinmcc wrote:
On May 22 2014 11:15 Holyflare wrote:
Austin what do you make of mz saying there's a red between me/hapa/steve because we're the ones shitting up the thread?
I think that MZ is giving short shrift to the other thread shitters or attempted-thread-shitters.


Looks quite scummy imo. Mentions list of scum reads or would lynches and then randomly throws in "here are people that probably contain red but I'm not going to talk about them and they are shitting up the thread!" looks an awful lot like mafia throwing in mafia to reads. Hapa isn't even shitting up the thread and I'd say I'm at least being productive so it's odd that he'd mention it over other people that are far more detrimental.
I feel the opposite. Giving some suspects and then adding that you think one of these three is mafia but you're too lazy to figure it out right now doesn't seem like pushing something or a neat way to throw your buddies into a list. More like a "oh yeah and I think this too but it's not fleshed out" addendum to a real post.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
May 22 2014 02:31 GMT
#1859
On May 22 2014 11:28 Holyflare wrote:
so why does mz have such a warped view of the thread then? can you explain that?
No, I can't explain why MZ would think what MZ thinks. But you can ask MZ!

But posting "hey maybe one of these guys but I'm lazy right now" isn't a mafia thing imo.
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