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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 20 2014 22:55 GMT
#521
Can you guys see that HF doesn't like the rng method which is obviously the best.
Then he proposes a retarded scum serving method of his own.
Then he claims to policy lynch me in d1?

¿¿¿¿
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2014 22:56 GMT
#522
uhh... is steveling actually being serious...? i can't actually tell anymore :o
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
May 20 2014 22:56 GMT
#523
On May 21 2014 07:54 jampidampi wrote:
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On May 21 2014 07:48 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:45 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:33 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:40 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Look, I know you guys all hate RNG lynch but with 4 factions there's gonna be way more scum than usual, right? This means RNG has a much higher chance than usual of hitting scum. This is possibly the best time EVER for using RNg. Everyone lynch OdinofPergo, because statistically speaking he is scum.

Why does more factions = more scum? Wouldn't scum numbers stay the same to keep the ratio of scum/all players balanced?


As a member of the balance team, I can assure you that a multifactional game supports more scum than a non-multifactional game. There are a number of reasons for this. Part of it is that, say, in a 2-scum-faction game, half of the scum will push on each other for reasons unrelated to bussing, because they can't distinguish between "scum on the other scum team" and "town". They'll even shoot into each other sometimes. Town loses the ability to make some associative tells, but the amount of crosstalk from scum accidentally pushing or shooting each other makes up for it.

2+2 scum with each group having 1 kp will never be as effective as 4 scum with 2 kp working together at killing town.

That being said, you never mentioned any real objection to the concept of RNG, you just questioned my estimate of scum in this game. I can only assume you didn't object to actual RNG because you think it would be fine if more factions = more scum. So, now that I've shown that more factions = more scum, you'll vote odin, yes?

I would need some kind of hard evindence that there are multiple scum factions in this game to RNG lynch, since those additional factions could be third parties and that wouldn't necessarily increase the scum numbers.


The definition of factions pretty much means they have to be scum aligned. Otherwise we'd just call them "blues". Even if they were like 3p factions or whatever, we'd still want them dead, right?

Also nice goalpost moving.

1. "do more factions = more scum? wouldn't scum numbers stay the same to keep the ratio... balanced?" as a question implies that you, like me, expected all or most of the factions to be scum factions.

2. but then "additional factions could be third parties..." later on is what you say after I show solve #1.

So, what's the deal? Why the resistance on the odinofpergo lynch???

I don't see how my wording implies I thought all or most of the factions to be scum factions. My orginal assumption was that there would be only one scum faction, since that is how it usually is.


At the risk of being shouted at for setup talk, I'd be a bit disappointed if it was one scum faction. Cross-shooting (see BH's post) would be funnier.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 20 2014 22:56 GMT
#524
And btw, I didn't call you a retard HF and I have nothing against you.
I call your scum pleasing method retarded and you are the one who calls other people names.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
May 20 2014 22:56 GMT
#525
On May 21 2014 07:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On May 21 2014 07:40 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:08 jampidampi wrote:
Meapak earlier you were interested in 27ninjabunnies, did you gather anything from my conversation with her? If you had to bet on her alignment, what would you guess?

ehhhh
I understand the part about gut reads, I've had them myself and I know how frustrating it is to try and explain them. I give her (is ninja a her?) a pass for now because her posts seem very unguarded and often early game is when scum are most uptight.

Unguarded? To me it seems that she is very defensive here:

On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:

--

It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.

You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be?


I may have my eye on a few people.

From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to come out first day and take control of town.

I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia.

Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post.


If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why.
But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter.

But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game.

If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched.

So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk.

She has "a pretty damn good reason" to avoid my question, yet she anwears it. Earlier she said that "we definitely have a mafia or two" but now they are not necessarily scum. Brining out the newbie card, defending accusations that don't exist. I would definitely not call this post unguarded. Based on this I wouldn't clear bunnies so easily, but now you're interesting. What makes you think she was "unguarded" in this post?

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For the annoyed thing, if she was slightly pissed at me, I would understand this kind of backlash.

I agree that she made a terrible post there, my "unguarded" comment did not specifically relate to any one post in particular and more to her style of posting over all. My personal concern with her is actually her sudden clearing of me after I lightly defended her. It's waaaay too early in the game to say you won't lynch someone, even if you qualify it with D1.

It still kinda baffles me that you could ignore such a heavy contrast to your generalization about bunnies play. Makes me think that you didn't actually put that much thought into it, which makes me think you might be scum.

It's soon 2 AM here, so see you all tomorrow
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 22:57 GMT
#526
On May 21 2014 07:54 Hapahauli wrote:
Two things:

@ Holyflare

Why are you playing as if you have a stick up your butt?

@ Everyone

Let's kill Valenius:
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On May 21 2014 06:22 Valenius wrote:
9 player day 1's normally confuse me. gg.

On May 21 2014 06:24 Valenius wrote:
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On May 21 2014 06:22 Koshi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:22 Valenius wrote:
9 player day 1's normally confuse me. gg.

Sheep me sheeping marv.
ezgame ezlife.


i thought you were hosting. wtf.

##vote: Koshi

On May 21 2014 06:29 Valenius wrote:
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On May 21 2014 06:28 Koshi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:27 Koshi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:24 Valenius wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:22 Koshi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:22 Valenius wrote:
9 player day 1's normally confuse me. gg.

Sheep me sheeping marv.
ezgame ezlife.


i thought you were hosting. wtf.

##vote: Koshi

Even though I am a divine being in this game. I ascended and joined the plebs. I don't have anything against plebs though, they are simple but amusing beings. I allow the smartest of them to call me Koshi. You can call me Master.

I might have meant descended. It is just hard for me to grasp going downwards.


It was such a nice post, I wasn't going to correct it for you.

On May 21 2014 06:50 Valenius wrote:
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On May 21 2014 06:49 Yell0w wrote:
So about this whole RNG thing, aren't scum players more likely to vote for OdinofPergo if he isn't in their faction since they don't even need a reason to vote him? They can just claim they're doing it for RNG and get a lynch on someone who isn't aligned with them?

Wouldn't a better way be to each claim we are RNG voting, then use the RNG on the post in which we claimed it and then vote for whomever our own post said? So that there is no way to know if you're going to lynch someone of your own faction or not so it's riskier for scum to go by RNG? Maybe I'm completely wrong here.


I like that, I haven't thought it through - But I like it.

RNG V2


On May 21 2014 06:52 Valenius wrote:
Actually, won't it cause the same theoretical situation, just with votes more spread?

On May 21 2014 07:44 Valenius wrote:
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On May 21 2014 07:42 kitaman27 wrote:
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On May 21 2014 06:17 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'd lynch HF in a heartbeat if he aligned with mafia.


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On May 21 2014 06:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Oh I'd lynch tamburini in a heartbeat regardless of his alignment.


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On May 21 2014 07:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'd lynch him in a heartbeat.


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On May 21 2014 07:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sorry HF you've broken my heart too many times.


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On May 21 2014 07:33 Xatalos wrote:
Why this change of heart?


[image loading]

Chalis (ハート Heart) is an antagonist in Golden Sun: Dark Dawn. Together with Blados, she is one of the commanders of a secretive military nation named Tuaparang.

All three are bad guys taunting us in the thread. I rest my case.


LOL

##unvoted koshi btw
On May 21 2014 07:48 Valenius wrote:
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On May 21 2014 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:45 Steveling wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:43 Holyflare wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:36 marvellosity wrote:
Xatalos, I really have no idea, nor do I care, because I don't particularly strive to be consistent from game to game. Honestly the fact that you're beating away at this makes you look kinda better though, so maybe I'll unvote you if I'm feeling nice

On May 21 2014 07:32 Holyflare wrote:
yes please do

##unvote
##vote steveling


You do realise, though, that Steve's semi-ridiculous behaviour makes it less likely he's mafia though, yes? (or traditional mafia. I'm just gonna say town for town and mafia for all the other factions until something tells me otherwise)

On May 21 2014 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
if you're gonna play like last game i will actually policy lynch you and i honestly don't care


despite me being scum in the game he was talking about we literally only won because he was doing what he was doing as town and was an easy mislynch so i'm just going to get rid of him until he learns


Yes you literally only won because of my bad play as town right?
Not because NO ONE, LITERALLY NO ONE VOTED FOR A SCUM IN ALL 3 DAYS.

Oh wait, except me.


^^^ case in point


anyway bh if you take out newbie games towns recently have a 40%+ chance of finding mafia day 1 by lynching and so it's obv far better not to rng


If you add in newbie games, we just lynch town/any claimed power roles. ezpz


6 posts, all of them a mixture of "+1'ing" other people and irrelevant comments. His filter reads a lot like someone who's artificially trying to insert himself in discussion.

##Vote: Valenius

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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 20 2014 22:57 GMT
#527
##Vote WaveofShadow

Gotta follow my heart.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 20 2014 22:57 GMT
#528
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 21 2014 07:40 jampidampi wrote:
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On May 21 2014 07:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:08 jampidampi wrote:
Meapak earlier you were interested in 27ninjabunnies, did you gather anything from my conversation with her? If you had to bet on her alignment, what would you guess?

ehhhh
I understand the part about gut reads, I've had them myself and I know how frustrating it is to try and explain them. I give her (is ninja a her?) a pass for now because her posts seem very unguarded and often early game is when scum are most uptight.

Unguarded? To me it seems that she is very defensive here:

Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:

--

It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.

You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be?


I may have my eye on a few people.

From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to come out first day and take control of town.

I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia.

Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post.


If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why.
But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter.

But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game.

If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched.

So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk.

She has "a pretty damn good reason" to avoid my question, yet she anwears it. Earlier she said that "we definitely have a mafia or two" but now they are not necessarily scum. Brining out the newbie card, defending accusations that don't exist. I would definitely not call this post unguarded. Based on this I wouldn't clear bunnies so easily, but now you're interesting. What makes you think she was "unguarded" in this post?

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For the annoyed thing, if she was slightly pissed at me, I would understand this kind of backlash.


@Jamp I disagree that I was defensive. So I had two choices here in responding to you: I continue to "avoid" your question as you say I did, and I get read as mafia for avoiding the question, or I go ahead and let you know where my head is at and respond. I think yes, we definitely have a mafia or two within the first couple of pages. Tehpoofter, steve, and WOS were the ones that I were considering first out of the ones that have talked the first couple of pages, but my reads, as I'm sure you have seen since I talked about you and thrawn, have changed since then. And I'm not pulling out the newbie card. I haven't played with most of you, yes, but that I am a "newbie" doesn't matter. I've played plenty of mafia to know what I'm doing regardless of my alignment, so using the newbie card is stupid imo.

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On May 21 2014 07:42 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:17 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'd lynch HF in a heartbeat if he aligned with mafia.


Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 06:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Oh I'd lynch tamburini in a heartbeat regardless of his alignment.


Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 07:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'd lynch him in a heartbeat.


Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 07:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sorry HF you've broken my heart too many times.


Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 07:33 Xatalos wrote:
Why this change of heart?


[image loading]

Chalis (ハート Heart) is an antagonist in Golden Sun: Dark Dawn. Together with Blados, she is one of the commanders of a secretive military nation named Tuaparang.

All three are bad guys taunting us in the thread. I rest my case.


@Kita Haha, that is so awesome! If I actually knew this series, I would probably lynch myself for it. The fact I used heartbeat 3 times is just ridiculous!

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On May 21 2014 07:44 Blazinghand wrote:
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On May 21 2014 07:43 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:37 geript wrote:
So far:
Marv-- has done nothing for my peepee. Usually as town he either makes it hard because he's obviously town or I think he's obviously mafia. Considering a shot. His push on Xat is pretty awful to, like there's little reason to expect Xat to flip scum on that basis.

Bunnies--I have a decent read on her in video. She's not done anything that makes me think she's town. She's also refusing to try to correctly read Banks as anything. That's really weird and her last post was awful.

Austin--he has yet to intercede to ABBA on behalf of my shot. That's pretty clearly mafia aligned. I'm very tempted to shoot him but he promised me cuddles and to carry me over the finish line.

Kush--probably town unfortunately.

Koshi--possibly town but I expected a more fun/playful response to my "are you naked" question. That's odd to me.

Wave--I'm soul reading my wubbybumpkins town.

Steveling--maybe town. Idk I think he's decentish as scum but he doesn't really strike me as the active chipper I want to do stuff type.

HF--hasn't commented on how he's the best ever and that we should policy lynch me before I get to shoot. Like that's pretty odd if he's town I would've expected some actual dickwaging in this trolling phase.

BH-- nothing he's done makes me think he's a good player. I thought he was awful last game and he was mafia. Same vibes here. He just looks like he's trash to be disposed of.

So I'm probably shooting within my scum pool tonight if you all don't sheep me. I'd much rather get info from a good lynch first though.


I want to point out: video mafia and forum mafia are two different aspects of mafia. Two: Just because I can read Banks well in video mafia, does not mean it transfers to forum. Also, he hasn't spoken too much for me to have a great read on him.

But some things I noticed: his vote on tamburini and his trying to get me to vote with him. These are reasons that I used when I told Jamp that he was one of the ones I was watching for as him being mafia from the first couple of pages.


so, 27nb, what are your thoughts on the possibility of an RNG lynch on OdinofPergo today? You haven't weighed in on my RNG posts.


@BH: I'm not sure tbh. RNG seems like an okay thing to do, especially with factions and the huge amount of possible scum we could have. But then again it's COULD have. But I like to lynch based off of reads and whom I find scummy or pretty certain are mafia. I don't even know if Odin has talked today, so I'd prob won't lynch him yet.

I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2014 22:57 GMT
#529
On May 21 2014 07:56 Steveling wrote:
And btw, I didn't call you a retard HF and I have nothing against you.
I call your scum pleasing method retarded and you are the one who calls other people names.


how is playing the game by normal lynching people "scum serving" if it's a higher % chance to lynch scum than rng...? i can't comprehend your line of thought
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 20 2014 22:57 GMT
#530
chill out on the tone guys (not an official warning)
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 20 2014 22:59 GMT
#531
On May 21 2014 07:57 Holyflare wrote:
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On May 21 2014 07:56 Steveling wrote:
And btw, I didn't call you a retard HF and I have nothing against you.
I call your scum pleasing method retarded and you are the one who calls other names.


how is playing the game by normal lynching people "scum serving" if it's a higher % chance to lynch scum than rng...? i can't comprehend your line of thought


Why do you ignore other people's posts and fixate on me?
BH explained it thoroughly.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 20 2014 22:59 GMT
#532
Steve v HF mafia on mafia fight calling it now

Kita y u gotta do that every game
You make my heart sad
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 20 2014 22:59 GMT
#533
On May 21 2014 07:57 ShiaoPi wrote:
chill out on the tone guys (not an official warning)


Finally, thanks.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2014 23:00 GMT
#534
ok i'm actually just going to fully ignore you for the rest of the game ~_~
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 23:00 GMT
#535
On May 21 2014 07:56 jampidampi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 07:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:40 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:08 jampidampi wrote:
Meapak earlier you were interested in 27ninjabunnies, did you gather anything from my conversation with her? If you had to bet on her alignment, what would you guess?

ehhhh
I understand the part about gut reads, I've had them myself and I know how frustrating it is to try and explain them. I give her (is ninja a her?) a pass for now because her posts seem very unguarded and often early game is when scum are most uptight.

Unguarded? To me it seems that she is very defensive here:

On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:

--

It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.

You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be?


I may have my eye on a few people.

From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to come out first day and take control of town.

I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia.

Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post.


If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why.
But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter.

But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game.

If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched.

So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk.

She has "a pretty damn good reason" to avoid my question, yet she anwears it. Earlier she said that "we definitely have a mafia or two" but now they are not necessarily scum. Brining out the newbie card, defending accusations that don't exist. I would definitely not call this post unguarded. Based on this I wouldn't clear bunnies so easily, but now you're interesting. What makes you think she was "unguarded" in this post?

+ Show Spoiler +
For the annoyed thing, if she was slightly pissed at me, I would understand this kind of backlash.

I agree that she made a terrible post there, my "unguarded" comment did not specifically relate to any one post in particular and more to her style of posting over all. My personal concern with her is actually her sudden clearing of me after I lightly defended her. It's waaaay too early in the game to say you won't lynch someone, even if you qualify it with D1.

It still kinda baffles me that you could ignore such a heavy contrast to your generalization about bunnies play. Makes me think that you didn't actually put that much thought into it, which makes me think you might be scum.

It's soon 2 AM here, so see you all tomorrow

I mean if you want I can go through her filter and point out every place I thought she made an unguarded or off the cuff post. I don't think I'm ignoring the contrast, I'm just not condemning someone for one bad post (although I understand that's all you need sometimes). On the other hand, I do have serious reservations because of her buddying.

Look she's probably not gonna be my D1 lynch choice right now, I'm trying to make myself as clear as possible. Have a goodnight, I'll be more than happy to answer further questions when you wake up.
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Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
May 20 2014 23:01 GMT
#536
On May 21 2014 07:50 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:45 Steveling wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:43 Holyflare wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:36 marvellosity wrote:
Xatalos, I really have no idea, nor do I care, because I don't particularly strive to be consistent from game to game. Honestly the fact that you're beating away at this makes you look kinda better though, so maybe I'll unvote you if I'm feeling nice

On May 21 2014 07:32 Holyflare wrote:
yes please do

##unvote
##vote steveling


You do realise, though, that Steve's semi-ridiculous behaviour makes it less likely he's mafia though, yes? (or traditional mafia. I'm just gonna say town for town and mafia for all the other factions until something tells me otherwise)

On May 21 2014 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
if you're gonna play like last game i will actually policy lynch you and i honestly don't care


despite me being scum in the game he was talking about we literally only won because he was doing what he was doing as town and was an easy mislynch so i'm just going to get rid of him until he learns


Yes you literally only won because of my bad play as town right?
Not because NO ONE, LITERALLY NO ONE VOTED FOR A SCUM IN ALL 3 DAYS.

Oh wait, except me.


^^^ case in point


anyway bh if you take out newbie games towns recently have a 40%+ chance of finding mafia day 1 by lynching and so it's obv far better not to rng


And if this game had no newbies in it, I'd take your statistics under advisement. Also in games like 7 town 2 scum (which it ypically use) you'd expect a 25% chance of getting scum anyways, 40% is pretty close.

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On May 21 2014 07:47 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:39 marvellosity wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:38 Blazinghand wrote:
So Marv, you gotta admit, these whole steveling/holyflare thing is pretty silly and not worth your attention. What do you think about the possibility of an rng lynch in this setup? Could be good, yes?

As you're probably well aware, I've never RNGed, never supported RNG, and never will. Draw your own conclusions :p


I know you disagree with me philosophically about the usefulness of RNG, I just figured maybe in a massively multifactional setup you might find it alluring. Well, next time then!

On May 21 2014 07:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:36 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:38 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Look, I know you guys all hate RNG lynch but with 4 factions there's gonna be way more scum than usual, right? This means RNG has a much higher chance than usual of hitting scum. This is possibly the best time EVER for using RNg. Everyone lynch OdinofPergo, because statistically speaking he is scum.

I was going to yell at you for the RNG nonsense but then I realized that you're right and even if you're scum, your plan has a decent chance of hitting other scum.

HOWEVER, this is my first game in forever so fuck yo RNG, I'm gonna choose my vote the old fashioned way.


Or Instead of the old fashioned homeopathic non-vaccinated way, you could use your vote in the scientifically correct way and vote OdinofPergo!

Vaccines cause autism tho

/s


seriously though, the story you're going with is "I realized you're right, and even if you're scum, your plan will probably work and we'll probably hit scum... but I'm not gonna follow your plan, because of ill-defind reasons"?

Actually yeah, I'm not even gonna argue with you. I play mafia for fun and us all picking an RNG then sitting back and seeing what happens doesn't seem fun to me. Plus I at least have enough faith in my own deduction and reasoning skills to think that I have just as good a chance of finding scum with analysis as RNG does.


Ok, so that's a reason. I will note though that historically, TL towns tend not to statistically significantly outperform RNG on D1. I'm not proposing RNG for no reason; I think lynching OdinofPergo is our best chance today. If nothing else, I guarantee that pulling this off will have two results

1) it will be legendary
2) it will cause a massive shitstorm because everyone hates RNG. this shitstorm will give us lots of things to base reads off of for D2


What reads do you hope to garner? Like based upon the lynch of Odin? Like who defends/pushes him? Why not just do that on someone who actually does something scummy. I think that I'd rather lose to being bad that win to RNG... I'm not playing a slot machine I'm playing mafia. RNG is bad and you should feel bad.


Why not someone else? Because RNG. RNG is the best and I feel good.



Obviously you don't really believe in the strategy. If someone thinks they're not better than RNG then they should just vote and leave the thread and come back in 48 hours and see how they did. But you clearly said you think you're a good player aka better than RNG so you don't even believe in an RNG lynch.

And I'm going to vote on who I think is scummy. Hopefully its right but even if its wrong then I will be happy that I had some influence over it and not just randomness Last time I'm commenting on this btw as its silly and unhelpful to town.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
May 20 2014 23:01 GMT
#537
On May 21 2014 07:56 jampidampi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 07:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:40 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:08 jampidampi wrote:
Meapak earlier you were interested in 27ninjabunnies, did you gather anything from my conversation with her? If you had to bet on her alignment, what would you guess?

ehhhh
I understand the part about gut reads, I've had them myself and I know how frustrating it is to try and explain them. I give her (is ninja a her?) a pass for now because her posts seem very unguarded and often early game is when scum are most uptight.

Unguarded? To me it seems that she is very defensive here:

On May 21 2014 06:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:45 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:

--

It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.

You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be?


I may have my eye on a few people.

From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to come out first day and take control of town.

I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia.

Why are you avoiding my question? I asked you to name your suspicions, but instead you give an indefinite answear and then babble on about something that could reasonably be figured out from your earlier post.


If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why.
But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter.

But this doesn't necessarily mean they are scum. I rather read more of their play and interactions before I straight out call someone mafia. The majority of these people I haven't played with, and this is my second forum game.

If I don't have logic behind my reads, where does that put me? As a freaking town more likely to get mislynched.

So hold your horses, let me get my reads, and then we'll talk.

She has "a pretty damn good reason" to avoid my question, yet she anwears it. Earlier she said that "we definitely have a mafia or two" but now they are not necessarily scum. Brining out the newbie card, defending accusations that don't exist. I would definitely not call this post unguarded. Based on this I wouldn't clear bunnies so easily, but now you're interesting. What makes you think she was "unguarded" in this post?

+ Show Spoiler +
For the annoyed thing, if she was slightly pissed at me, I would understand this kind of backlash.

I agree that she made a terrible post there, my "unguarded" comment did not specifically relate to any one post in particular and more to her style of posting over all. My personal concern with her is actually her sudden clearing of me after I lightly defended her. It's waaaay too early in the game to say you won't lynch someone, even if you qualify it with D1.

It still kinda baffles me that you could ignore such a heavy contrast to your generalization about bunnies play. Makes me think that you didn't actually put that much thought into it, which makes me think you might be scum.

It's soon 2 AM here, so see you all tomorrow


@ MZ :It wasn't necessarily a straight clearing, and it has nothing to do with the fact you lightly town read me.

I like your reads, your questioning, and where your posts are going, they seem more townie to me.
That's why I said I wouldn't lynch you day 1, but the other days are open.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 20 2014 23:01 GMT
#538
On May 21 2014 08:00 Holyflare wrote:
ok i'm actually just going to fully ignore you for the rest of the game ~_~


Case in point, thanks HF.

BH you see that he just ignores your post.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 20 2014 23:01 GMT
#539
On May 21 2014 07:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
Steve v HF mafia on mafia fight calling it now

Kita y u gotta do that every game
You make my heart sad


It's because you enter games with posts like these!

In other news I'm getting real sick of rolling VT in massive theme-style games (or games in general). Really fucking boring.
Gonna be the same basic formula: either I suck balls and get left alive forever and get demoralized and whatnot, or I get a flash of genius and play well and get killed earlyish. The latter means I gotta try though and even then there are no guarantees. Blehhhhhhhhhhh


Also, if we start ignoring Blazinghand, maybe he will go away.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
May 20 2014 23:03 GMT
#540
On May 21 2014 08:01 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 07:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
Steve v HF mafia on mafia fight calling it now

Kita y u gotta do that every game
You make my heart sad


It's because you enter games with posts like these!

Show nested quote +
In other news I'm getting real sick of rolling VT in massive theme-style games (or games in general). Really fucking boring.
Gonna be the same basic formula: either I suck balls and get left alive forever and get demoralized and whatnot, or I get a flash of genius and play well and get killed earlyish. The latter means I gotta try though and even then there are no guarantees. Blehhhhhhhhhhh


Also, if we start ignoring Blazinghand, maybe he will go away.

KIIIIIITTTTTAAAAAA

don't ignore me plz

Tell me why you made your first vote
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