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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 25 2014 17:37 GMT
#4103
On May 26 2014 02:36 Erandorr wrote:
Man we are getting so much information from this its awesome.
I still think we need to kill you, sorry austin. Too much uncertainty and you just aint one of us. This has also been the easiest bandwagon for the scummies ever but you can see a lot from the reactions.
Also to people like Steve, just because there are a fuckton of 3rd party obviously wanting to kill him, does not make it a bad lynch.


We can get more info from others dudes.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 25 2014 17:45 GMT
#4107
Town are not playing this game at all.
Seems like most of them don't even read the thread.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 25 2014 17:53 GMT
#4112
On May 26 2014 02:48 BlueyD wrote:
Yep, still lynching thrawn next day barring new info.


Next day?
Why not now?
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Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 25 2014 17:57 GMT
#4121
On May 26 2014 02:56 Valenius wrote:
I'd rather lynch:

Kush - His more recent contributions have been 'lynch him' 'do u people not get it lol. scum are scumhunting' and 'cool now everybody is going to pop into the thread and write two paragraphs saying austin should be lynched'. If none of us had popped in, gave our thoughts on the situation and pressured the case (one way or another), then we wouldn't have gotten as much info out of this as we have. He's also been pretty adamant that scumhunting is useless, so unless he has a better idea of how we can find scum (apart from [presumably] 1 cop check a night) then i'd love to hear it. Otherwise, a better candidate for me than austin.

OnceKing - Seems to be up to date with the thread, and is still pushing pretty easy targets for shit reasons.

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 26 2014 00:48 OnceKing wrote:
k voting austin
sorry i haven't been around, last two days have been pretty hectic for me

other people who have dropped off the face of the earth: tambo, valenius, thrawn off the top of my head
i mean yeah tambo and valenius have posted recently but that doesn't change the fact that they're still just trying to just get by
now uncertain on ritoky. the defense "feels" genuine but i can't really put my finger on why; looking at his big post it's pretty much just commentary and i don't really agree with his reads lmao.
i dislike the defense of yell0w and hapa's standpoint makes sense to me. if you've got an actual strong scumread there's no purpose to go with rng over a read.

so after today's lynch, ok with lynching:
- tambo
- valenius
- thrawn
- yell0w



This looks like it was thrown together in 2 minutes, and 3/4 of his accepted lynches are people who've been quieter. That brings me onto another point actually; At no point in the game has he said 'Yeah, i dont think we should lynch valenius'. I've been in his sights since he started, and I've felt pretty much 0 pressure from him on it. I've had one decent scumread previously on hapa, which I made a case on and tried to push, which austin then took up and got hapa to talk. See here for mentions of me:

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 22 2014 04:25 OnceKing wrote:
Actually I'm super curious
Valenius do you have any scum reads, everything you have in the spoilers seems to be "i don't understand what you're saying" or "town"


On May 22 2014 05:07 OnceKing wrote:
Still catching up.
Right now I'm ok with a valenius or layabout lynch, gotta read through tambo filter cause someone on the last page said they wouldn't mind splitting the vote between tambo and layabout


On May 22 2014 14:04 OnceKing wrote:
back
still happy with a layabout lynch
in the two games i've had with cav his existence as town has been as an angry mole so i'm comfy with calling him town
tambo's sketchy, valenius still hasn't responded to my question or to this thread at all beyond talking about setup speculation.

valenius do you have any non-null or non-wussy reads


On May 22 2014 14:22 OnceKing wrote:
ANYWAY thats pretty pointless to talk about now unless you're complaining about the fact that i think you're town right now
what do you make of valenius cav


On May 22 2014 14:39 OnceKing wrote:
setup speculation
talks about stuff and people without drawing inference towards alignment

all speak to "contributing" but not actually doing so
so yeah layabout's #1 and valenius is #2


On May 22 2014 14:40 OnceKing wrote:
cav what makes you think valenius is playing a scummy town rather than just being scum


On May 23 2014 01:31 OnceKing wrote:
also i could buy a ritoky lynch over a layabout lynch atm
or valenius


On May 23 2014 02:28 OnceKing wrote:
gr8
so do you wanna lynch valenius or no kita


On May 23 2014 02:39 OnceKing wrote:
because it means that some people are suspicious or at least pretending to be suspicious of him, over other wagons like tambo and valenius
so what makes him a more suspicious fella worth suspecting over anyone else?


On May 23 2014 03:15 OnceKing wrote:
i'm kinda buying the chinese fire drill onto odin after reading bh's stuff
i still think valenius is scum and i think his reduction of the stuff i have on him to "hes shit so hes scum" is pretty disingenuous though


On May 23 2014 03:21 OnceKing wrote:
alright I'll play the chinese fire drill game and sheep you
Cav's a town read for me and he doesn't seem to think Valenius is scum so I can give him the benefit of the doubt for now
##unvote
##VOTE: OdinofPergo


On May 23 2014 04:39 OnceKing wrote:
i already had been making my points on valenius
cavalinho doesn't think valenius is scum and he states why a bit after that
it's entirely possible valenius is just a slow starter so... benefit of the doubt
i just thought bh's case was better


On May 23 2014 04:45 OnceKing wrote:
what
who is "he"
if he is me then yea... so what. i still think valenius is scum but i accept that he might be a slow starter and think the case on odin is better

if he is cav then... idk what you're writing LOL


On May 23 2014 05:40 OnceKing wrote:
small wagons:
valenius (2) - kita, sqrt
yell0w (1) - poof
bunnies (1) - cephiro
hf (1) - wos
layabout (1) - ritoky
poof (1) - tambo

tambo literally had a pointless throwaway vote, i'd be glad to see him die
kita wanted a lynch on blueyd but his vote is on valenius (?). didn't say much about odin, explain this?
sqrt brushed aside the case on odin saying that he thought odin was vt, didn't say much otherwise.
poof, cephiro, wos, ritoky afk (though wave and ritoky said they were gonna sleep so i don't draw much adverse inference from that)

pedit: saw sqrt's list of late switchers
kush changed before bh's case
xatalos thru hf changed after bh's case
hapa changed after making this post even though valenius didn't really post anything worthwhile
everyone else basically sheeped BH's case (i mean it was good)

post flip definitely dislike tambo more as well as one of valenius/hapa (moreso valenius atm) and afk people (poof, cephiro)
dont know how i feel about kita or any of the people who sheeped

gonna head out for a bit when i get back i'll be rereading


On May 23 2014 10:45 OnceKing wrote:
Outliers
tambo
+ Show Spoiler +
do we still need to talk about this guy
oh his thing on how to do a vote analysis in this game draws no conclusions, then when he's pressed for conclusions based off of his observations/what he says we should do he writes a twisted spiel that doesn't do what's asked of it. Basically that post says "im town, people who unvoted me are town, im not being very clear". None of that says anything specific or helpful, and it seems like he's just trying to cover up a lack of contribution with a lot of words. scum



ritoky
+ Show Spoiler +
mostly uncomfortable with the fact that the last known tambo sighting in his filter was "getting a lot worse in my mind" and then he dropped the subject like a hot potato
on toppa that his later final suspect list was between WoS and layabout, and his reasoning for either is either sketchy or not specific
this is the post:
On May 22 2014 19:48 ritoky wrote:
Well, I am going to sleep and I am not sure if I will make it back before the deadline.

For me it's between WOS and layabout.

WOS contributes and I basically don't like much of anything he says.

Layabout doesn't contribute, and when he does its mostly shit filling.

Gonna go with layabout. ##vote layabout

he wants to lynch WoS cause he thinks WoS is wrong. since when is someone scum just for disagreeing with you?
he wants to lynch layabout because he's "shit filling". ok... shit filling how? is it by only posting +1s and jokes? is it by not giving reads? he doesn't say any of that or specify how layabout's posting is shitty, he just calls it shit filling cause other people already said he was shitting up the thread and hoped he wouldn't have to explain it.
probably scum


WoS
+ Show Spoiler +
it's all basically meta... i don't know enough to say whether this is good or not
i dislike such heavy use of meta but it's a pretty legit scumhunting tool, i really just wanna defer to opinions of others on his prior posting. we'll see how the replacement does. his feelings on ritoky are the same as mine but that doesn't really mean much.
null


cephiro
+ Show Spoiler +
townish atm just by looking at his filter. i think he's writing stuff that makes sense though i don't necessarily agree with his conclusion on bunnies. i need to read the back and forth more carefully so the jury's still out on how i feel about both him and bunnies


poof
+ Show Spoiler +
lots of discussion about RNG with BH, then this reaction to being called a newbie feels legit
i like him for town, he's pushing discussion and his reads and he also addressed cephiro's case on bunnies with the same argument that i had reading through it the first time (i townread people all the time for thinking what i'm thinking as town).

kita, i know you said marv allayed your initial suspicions of him but i'd like you to tell me why you didn't like him to begin with in more detail

kita
+ Show Spoiler +
decent amount of posting, no real positions taken. he suspected poof for committing the unholy trinity or whatever but in the very same post said that he's not convinced poof is mafia (despite the fact that he committed the unholy trinity??). he's just super soft on everyone -- doesn't wanna lynch jampi, says a bit about HF but doesn't wanna lynch him, no hard position on tambo, so on so forth

actually the more i think about this the more unhappy i am with him, he dodged a question also about the counterwagons for tambo by posting stuff about characters from Golden Sun, kinda-not-really pushes BlueyD... i'd like everyone to take a closer look at him.
probably scum


sqrt
+ Show Spoiler +
posts a whole lot of lists and one liners, from what i recall this is pretty much what sqrt has done as town in most of his games. would like for him to go more in-depth on stuff though
null to town


other stuff
BlueyD
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 07:45 BlueyD wrote:
Are you kidding me?

We actually lynched the RNG target. What the hell. You're all bad.

Only had time to check the lynch, Will be back later.

are you kidding me? you don't do anything then come back after the lynch to bitch at us without even reading the thread and immediately peace out again

Valenius
still think he's mafia until he does something to convince me otherwise (spoilers: he hasn't)


On May 24 2014 08:48 OnceKing wrote:
caught up now
cool with lynching:
- tambo
- valenius
- kush
- ritoky

i needa read through thrawn's stuff though looks like a lotta people don't like 'im


On May 26 2014 00:48 OnceKing wrote:
k voting austin
sorry i haven't been around, last two days have been pretty hectic for me

other people who have dropped off the face of the earth: tambo, valenius, thrawn off the top of my head
i mean yeah tambo and valenius have posted recently but that doesn't change the fact that they're still just trying to just get by
now uncertain on ritoky. the defense "feels" genuine but i can't really put my finger on why; looking at his big post it's pretty much just commentary and i don't really agree with his reads lmao.
i dislike the defense of yell0w and hapa's standpoint makes sense to me. if you've got an actual strong scumread there's no purpose to go with rng over a read.

so after today's lynch, ok with lynching:
- tambo
- valenius
- thrawn
- yell0w







That's 14 posts where he's said he think i'm scum, and 2 where he's using someone elses townread of me. If you've got that much of a read on someone that you're willing to mention them 14 times as being a lynch candidate, you'd surely put some sort of pressure on them.. right? I feel like he's an annoying fly buzzing somewhere behind the curtain, not flying around my head.

I hate to bring out the meta read, based on how different i've been trying to play, but; In previous town game he was leading town and preparing excellent cases on players. This feels more like his mafia game where he was more lurky. This feels like he's just sinking into the furniture.

I will cut him some slack being a replacement, and how much of a step up from a 50 page game to 200+ pages day 2 (i've struggled with that), but not enough to form anything but a scumread on him.

All of his votes have had little to no reasoning behind them either:

Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 08:48 OnceKing wrote:
ebwop totally hopping on dat kush wagon


Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 05:06 OnceKing wrote:
i'm gonna head out for a bit to go climb
in the meantime i feel pretty safe just plopping down my vote on tambo


Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 03:21 OnceKing wrote:
alright I'll play the chinese fire drill game and sheep you
Cav's a town read for me and he doesn't seem to think Valenius is scum so I can give him the benefit of the doubt for now
##unvote
##VOTE: OdinofPergo



That's my read for today:

##Vote: OnceKing


Who recruited you val?
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 25 2014 18:01 GMT
#4129
TOWN CAN WE PLS NOT VOTE AUSTIN THANKS
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 25 2014 18:05 GMT
#4137
On May 26 2014 03:04 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2014 03:01 Steveling wrote:
TOWN CAN WE PLS NOT VOTE AUSTIN THANKS


such convincing many persuasively wow


I guess I should be making bs cases like you.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 25 2014 18:08 GMT
#4140
Yes I was recruited and am now blindly defending him because that's smart.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 25 2014 18:11 GMT
#4145
BH and marv should be legit lynches.

unbote
##bote: marv
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 25 2014 18:16 GMT
#4156
On May 26 2014 03:15 Xatalos wrote:
2 less townies? Can he double convert?


Marv just scum slipped.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 25 2014 18:16 GMT
#4160
Anyway this is over, with 15 botes 1 hours before the end.
You guys aren't helping at all.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 25 2014 18:17 GMT
#4161
On May 26 2014 03:16 marvellosity wrote:
no I didn't, dumbass.


bass
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 25 2014 18:18 GMT
#4163
Dumbass marv conveniently forgot how austin's power kp's rng.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 25 2014 18:21 GMT
#4170
On May 26 2014 03:19 austinmcc wrote:
Don't lose ALL djinns. Just the one I send.

Again, based on the game it's similar to pokemans and I'm the fire gym leader or something. I choose a fire pokemans to send out, and it just burns roles off mafia, not converts, but I still my other pokemans cuz I'd be a shitty gum leader with just one pokemans.


Or to put it in perspective, austin *could* purge 1 scum's role and kill another.
It's like magic init?
But you won't see djinni marv saying anything about that.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 25 2014 18:24 GMT
#4175
Although I'm pretty sure that austin lied about the rng thing.
Meapak/bkq/koshi were totes not randomly kp'd.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 25 2014 18:24 GMT
#4176
On May 26 2014 03:23 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2014 03:22 Xatalos wrote:
On May 26 2014 03:21 Steveling wrote:
On May 26 2014 03:19 austinmcc wrote:
Don't lose ALL djinns. Just the one I send.

Again, based on the game it's similar to pokemans and I'm the fire gym leader or something. I choose a fire pokemans to send out, and it just burns roles off mafia, not converts, but I still my other pokemans cuz I'd be a shitty gum leader with just one pokemans.


Or to put it in perspective, austin *could* purge 1 scum's role and kill another.
It's like magic init?
But you won't see djinni marv saying anything about that.


marv = Mercury

It is known

If I'm not, do you accept that I can gloat like a total bastard in your face postgame, and you will accept it with good grace?


So you are scum.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 25 2014 18:27 GMT
#4181
He's not town or he's terrible.
Either case I don't like him.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 25 2014 18:31 GMT
#4185
On May 26 2014 03:29 marvellosity wrote:
Being called terrible by terrible players is one of my favourite past-times

more i tell you, more


You are not as fun to poke as BH.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 25 2014 18:34 GMT
#4189
Don't worry guys.
Isaac is keeping his powers hidden to save town in the last day possible.
Just have some faith will you?
lmao
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 25 2014 18:36 GMT
#4194
Don't think it's possible to swap factions 2nd time.
Like, what, someone goes town-djinni-town and then he's like "yo guys, I was just talking to them lot in the djinni qt, they are x-z and y", lol.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 25 2014 18:40 GMT
#4199
On May 26 2014 03:37 Cavalinho wrote:
I'm totally down to lynch thrawn over austin, fyi. Having austin around seems like it would be kinda useful if we forced him to move in the direction we wanted him to go.

Or we can just lynch austin. That's fine too, I guess.


Not only do we keep him as an errand boy but we force the other factions to focus him.
Why the fuck should town do the job of the djinnis.
We are just nearing our end game that much faster.
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