On May 21 2014 07:36 marvellosity wrote: Xatalos, I really have no idea, nor do I care, because I don't particularly strive to be consistent from game to game. Honestly the fact that you're beating away at this makes you look kinda better though, so maybe I'll unvote you if I'm feeling nice
On May 21 2014 07:32 Holyflare wrote: yes please do
##unvote ##vote steveling
You do realise, though, that Steve's semi-ridiculous behaviour makes it less likely he's mafia though, yes? (or traditional mafia. I'm just gonna say town for town and mafia for all the other factions until something tells me otherwise)
On May 21 2014 07:20 Holyflare wrote: if you're gonna play like last game i will actually policy lynch you and i honestly don't care
despite me being scum in the game he was talking about we literally only won because he was doing what he was doing as town and was an easy mislynch so i'm just going to get rid of him until he learns
Yes you literally only won because of my bad play as town right? Not because NO ONE, LITERALLY NO ONE VOTED FOR A SCUM IN ALL 3 DAYS.
Oh wait, except me.
^^^ case in point
anyway bh if you take out newbie games towns recently have a 40%+ chance of finding mafia day 1 by lynching and so it's obv far better not to rng
And if this game had no newbies in it, I'd take your statistics under advisement. Also in games like 7 town 2 scum (which it ypically use) you'd expect a 25% chance of getting scum anyways, 40% is pretty close.
On May 21 2014 07:38 Blazinghand wrote: So Marv, you gotta admit, these whole steveling/holyflare thing is pretty silly and not worth your attention. What do you think about the possibility of an rng lynch in this setup? Could be good, yes?
As you're probably well aware, I've never RNGed, never supported RNG, and never will. Draw your own conclusions :p
I know you disagree with me philosophically about the usefulness of RNG, I just figured maybe in a massively multifactional setup you might find it alluring. Well, next time then!
On May 21 2014 07:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:36 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:38 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote: Look, I know you guys all hate RNG lynch but with 4 factions there's gonna be way more scum than usual, right? This means RNG has a much higher chance than usual of hitting scum. This is possibly the best time EVER for using RNg. Everyone lynch OdinofPergo, because statistically speaking he is scum.
I was going to yell at you for the RNG nonsense but then I realized that you're right and even if you're scum, your plan has a decent chance of hitting other scum.
HOWEVER, this is my first game in forever so fuck yo RNG, I'm gonna choose my vote the old fashioned way.
Or Instead of the old fashioned homeopathic non-vaccinated way, you could use your vote in the scientifically correct way and vote OdinofPergo!
Vaccines cause autism tho
/s
seriously though, the story you're going with is "I realized you're right, and even if you're scum, your plan will probably work and we'll probably hit scum... but I'm not gonna follow your plan, because of ill-defind reasons"?
Actually yeah, I'm not even gonna argue with you. I play mafia for fun and us all picking an RNG then sitting back and seeing what happens doesn't seem fun to me. Plus I at least have enough faith in my own deduction and reasoning skills to think that I have just as good a chance of finding scum with analysis as RNG does.
Ok, so that's a reason. I will note though that historically, TL towns tend not to statistically significantly outperform RNG on D1. I'm not proposing RNG for no reason; I think lynching OdinofPergo is our best chance today. If nothing else, I guarantee that pulling this off will have two results
1) it will be legendary 2) it will cause a massive shitstorm because everyone hates RNG. this shitstorm will give us lots of things to base reads off of for D2
What reads do you hope to garner? Like based upon the lynch of Odin? Like who defends/pushes him? Why not just do that on someone who actually does something scummy. I think that I'd rather lose to being bad that win to RNG... I'm not playing a slot machine I'm playing mafia. RNG is bad and you should feel bad.
Why not someone else? Because RNG. RNG is the best and I feel good.
Obviously you don't really believe in the strategy. If someone thinks they're not better than RNG then they should just vote and leave the thread and come back in 48 hours and see how they did. But you clearly said you think you're a good player aka better than RNG so you don't even believe in an RNG lynch.
And I'm going to vote on who I think is scummy. Hopefully its right but even if its wrong then I will be happy that I had some influence over it and not just randomness Last time I'm commenting on this btw as its silly and unhelpful to town.
On May 21 2014 07:36 marvellosity wrote: Xatalos, I really have no idea, nor do I care, because I don't particularly strive to be consistent from game to game. Honestly the fact that you're beating away at this makes you look kinda better though, so maybe I'll unvote you if I'm feeling nice
On May 21 2014 07:32 Holyflare wrote: yes please do
##unvote ##vote steveling
You do realise, though, that Steve's semi-ridiculous behaviour makes it less likely he's mafia though, yes? (or traditional mafia. I'm just gonna say town for town and mafia for all the other factions until something tells me otherwise)
On May 21 2014 07:20 Holyflare wrote: if you're gonna play like last game i will actually policy lynch you and i honestly don't care
despite me being scum in the game he was talking about we literally only won because he was doing what he was doing as town and was an easy mislynch so i'm just going to get rid of him until he learns
Yes you literally only won because of my bad play as town right? Not because NO ONE, LITERALLY NO ONE VOTED FOR A SCUM IN ALL 3 DAYS.
Oh wait, except me.
^^^ case in point
anyway bh if you take out newbie games towns recently have a 40%+ chance of finding mafia day 1 by lynching and so it's obv far better not to rng
And if this game had no newbies in it, I'd take your statistics under advisement. Also in games like 7 town 2 scum (which it ypically use) you'd expect a 25% chance of getting scum anyways, 40% is pretty close.
On May 21 2014 07:47 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:39 marvellosity wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:38 Blazinghand wrote: So Marv, you gotta admit, these whole steveling/holyflare thing is pretty silly and not worth your attention. What do you think about the possibility of an rng lynch in this setup? Could be good, yes?
As you're probably well aware, I've never RNGed, never supported RNG, and never will. Draw your own conclusions :p
I know you disagree with me philosophically about the usefulness of RNG, I just figured maybe in a massively multifactional setup you might find it alluring. Well, next time then!
On May 21 2014 07:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:36 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:38 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: [quote] I was going to yell at you for the RNG nonsense but then I realized that you're right and even if you're scum, your plan has a decent chance of hitting other scum.
HOWEVER, this is my first game in forever so fuck yo RNG, I'm gonna choose my vote the old fashioned way.
Or Instead of the old fashioned homeopathic non-vaccinated way, you could use your vote in the scientifically correct way and vote OdinofPergo!
Vaccines cause autism tho
/s
seriously though, the story you're going with is "I realized you're right, and even if you're scum, your plan will probably work and we'll probably hit scum... but I'm not gonna follow your plan, because of ill-defind reasons"?
Actually yeah, I'm not even gonna argue with you. I play mafia for fun and us all picking an RNG then sitting back and seeing what happens doesn't seem fun to me. Plus I at least have enough faith in my own deduction and reasoning skills to think that I have just as good a chance of finding scum with analysis as RNG does.
Ok, so that's a reason. I will note though that historically, TL towns tend not to statistically significantly outperform RNG on D1. I'm not proposing RNG for no reason; I think lynching OdinofPergo is our best chance today. If nothing else, I guarantee that pulling this off will have two results
1) it will be legendary 2) it will cause a massive shitstorm because everyone hates RNG. this shitstorm will give us lots of things to base reads off of for D2
What reads do you hope to garner? Like based upon the lynch of Odin? Like who defends/pushes him? Why not just do that on someone who actually does something scummy. I think that I'd rather lose to being bad that win to RNG... I'm not playing a slot machine I'm playing mafia. RNG is bad and you should feel bad.
Why not someone else? Because RNG. RNG is the best and I feel good.
Obviously you don't really believe in the strategy. If someone thinks they're not better than RNG then they should just vote and leave the thread and come back in 48 hours and see how they did. But you clearly said you think you're a good player aka better than RNG so you don't even believe in an RNG lynch.
And I'm going to vote on who I think is scummy. Hopefully its right but even if its wrong then I will be happy that I had some influence over it and not just randomness Last time I'm commenting on this btw as its silly and unhelpful to town.
I'm the best player in TL Mafia and I believe in RNG lynch because it's objectively the best tool. The definition of being a good player is basically using RNG lynch, in a setup like this. You don't just vote randomly and leave the thread, because most people don't do RNG lynch. You make sure everyone else follows you too. By your logic, if I have a scumread on someone, I should just vote them and leave the thread, my job is done.
Typical poof.
So lets say we had an RNG shot and a lynch. BUT you could only base one on RNG. Who do you find scummy in this thread so far that you would have to way in on for the non-RNG portion?
On May 21 2014 07:36 marvellosity wrote: Xatalos, I really have no idea, nor do I care, because I don't particularly strive to be consistent from game to game. Honestly the fact that you're beating away at this makes you look kinda better though, so maybe I'll unvote you if I'm feeling nice
On May 21 2014 07:32 Holyflare wrote: yes please do
##unvote ##vote steveling
You do realise, though, that Steve's semi-ridiculous behaviour makes it less likely he's mafia though, yes? (or traditional mafia. I'm just gonna say town for town and mafia for all the other factions until something tells me otherwise)
On May 21 2014 07:20 Holyflare wrote: if you're gonna play like last game i will actually policy lynch you and i honestly don't care
despite me being scum in the game he was talking about we literally only won because he was doing what he was doing as town and was an easy mislynch so i'm just going to get rid of him until he learns
Yes you literally only won because of my bad play as town right? Not because NO ONE, LITERALLY NO ONE VOTED FOR A SCUM IN ALL 3 DAYS.
Oh wait, except me.
^^^ case in point
anyway bh if you take out newbie games towns recently have a 40%+ chance of finding mafia day 1 by lynching and so it's obv far better not to rng
And if this game had no newbies in it, I'd take your statistics under advisement. Also in games like 7 town 2 scum (which it ypically use) you'd expect a 25% chance of getting scum anyways, 40% is pretty close.
On May 21 2014 07:47 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:39 marvellosity wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:38 Blazinghand wrote: So Marv, you gotta admit, these whole steveling/holyflare thing is pretty silly and not worth your attention. What do you think about the possibility of an rng lynch in this setup? Could be good, yes?
As you're probably well aware, I've never RNGed, never supported RNG, and never will. Draw your own conclusions :p
I know you disagree with me philosophically about the usefulness of RNG, I just figured maybe in a massively multifactional setup you might find it alluring. Well, next time then!
On May 21 2014 07:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:36 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: [quote] Vaccines cause autism tho
/s
seriously though, the story you're going with is "I realized you're right, and even if you're scum, your plan will probably work and we'll probably hit scum... but I'm not gonna follow your plan, because of ill-defind reasons"?
Actually yeah, I'm not even gonna argue with you. I play mafia for fun and us all picking an RNG then sitting back and seeing what happens doesn't seem fun to me. Plus I at least have enough faith in my own deduction and reasoning skills to think that I have just as good a chance of finding scum with analysis as RNG does.
Ok, so that's a reason. I will note though that historically, TL towns tend not to statistically significantly outperform RNG on D1. I'm not proposing RNG for no reason; I think lynching OdinofPergo is our best chance today. If nothing else, I guarantee that pulling this off will have two results
1) it will be legendary 2) it will cause a massive shitstorm because everyone hates RNG. this shitstorm will give us lots of things to base reads off of for D2
What reads do you hope to garner? Like based upon the lynch of Odin? Like who defends/pushes him? Why not just do that on someone who actually does something scummy. I think that I'd rather lose to being bad that win to RNG... I'm not playing a slot machine I'm playing mafia. RNG is bad and you should feel bad.
Why not someone else? Because RNG. RNG is the best and I feel good.
Obviously you don't really believe in the strategy. If someone thinks they're not better than RNG then they should just vote and leave the thread and come back in 48 hours and see how they did. But you clearly said you think you're a good player aka better than RNG so you don't even believe in an RNG lynch.
And I'm going to vote on who I think is scummy. Hopefully its right but even if its wrong then I will be happy that I had some influence over it and not just randomness Last time I'm commenting on this btw as its silly and unhelpful to town.
I'm the best player in TL Mafia and I believe in RNG lynch because it's objectively the best tool. The definition of being a good player is basically using RNG lynch, in a setup like this. You don't just vote randomly and leave the thread, because most don't do RNG lynch. You make sure everyone else follows you too. By your logic, if I have a scumread on someone, I should just vote them and leave the thread, my job is done.
Typical poof.
So lets say we had an RNG shot and a lynch. BUT you could only base one on RNG. Who do you find scummy in this thread so far that you would have to way in on for the non-RNG portion?
The answer is HF but notice how the both of them refuse to comment on this. Game solved.
Only two scum? And HF isn't playing like last game so your read is bad unless you show me differently, Like I asked previously what did he do this game that makes him lock mafia? Or is just cause he told you to play better as town? Like I think you shouldn't do what you did last game as town (I'm going to try not to too cause I mishammered like a boss) but does me saying you should play differently make you think I'm auto lock town for it?
On May 21 2014 07:36 marvellosity wrote: Xatalos, I really have no idea, nor do I care, because I don't particularly strive to be consistent from game to game. Honestly the fact that you're beating away at this makes you look kinda better though, so maybe I'll unvote you if I'm feeling nice
On May 21 2014 07:32 Holyflare wrote: yes please do
##unvote ##vote steveling
You do realise, though, that Steve's semi-ridiculous behaviour makes it less likely he's mafia though, yes? (or traditional mafia. I'm just gonna say town for town and mafia for all the other factions until something tells me otherwise)
On May 21 2014 07:20 Holyflare wrote: if you're gonna play like last game i will actually policy lynch you and i honestly don't care
despite me being scum in the game he was talking about we literally only won because he was doing what he was doing as town and was an easy mislynch so i'm just going to get rid of him until he learns
Yes you literally only won because of my bad play as town right? Not because NO ONE, LITERALLY NO ONE VOTED FOR A SCUM IN ALL 3 DAYS.
Oh wait, except me.
^^^ case in point
anyway bh if you take out newbie games towns recently have a 40%+ chance of finding mafia day 1 by lynching and so it's obv far better not to rng
And if this game had no newbies in it, I'd take your statistics under advisement. Also in games like 7 town 2 scum (which it ypically use) you'd expect a 25% chance of getting scum anyways, 40% is pretty close.
On May 21 2014 07:47 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:39 marvellosity wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:38 Blazinghand wrote: So Marv, you gotta admit, these whole steveling/holyflare thing is pretty silly and not worth your attention. What do you think about the possibility of an rng lynch in this setup? Could be good, yes?
As you're probably well aware, I've never RNGed, never supported RNG, and never will. Draw your own conclusions :p
I know you disagree with me philosophically about the usefulness of RNG, I just figured maybe in a massively multifactional setup you might find it alluring. Well, next time then!
On May 21 2014 07:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:36 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 21 2014 06:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: [quote] Vaccines cause autism tho
/s
seriously though, the story you're going with is "I realized you're right, and even if you're scum, your plan will probably work and we'll probably hit scum... but I'm not gonna follow your plan, because of ill-defind reasons"?
Actually yeah, I'm not even gonna argue with you. I play mafia for fun and us all picking an RNG then sitting back and seeing what happens doesn't seem fun to me. Plus I at least have enough faith in my own deduction and reasoning skills to think that I have just as good a chance of finding scum with analysis as RNG does.
Ok, so that's a reason. I will note though that historically, TL towns tend not to statistically significantly outperform RNG on D1. I'm not proposing RNG for no reason; I think lynching OdinofPergo is our best chance today. If nothing else, I guarantee that pulling this off will have two results
1) it will be legendary 2) it will cause a massive shitstorm because everyone hates RNG. this shitstorm will give us lots of things to base reads off of for D2
What reads do you hope to garner? Like based upon the lynch of Odin? Like who defends/pushes him? Why not just do that on someone who actually does something scummy. I think that I'd rather lose to being bad that win to RNG... I'm not playing a slot machine I'm playing mafia. RNG is bad and you should feel bad.
Why not someone else? Because RNG. RNG is the best and I feel good.
Obviously you don't really believe in the strategy. If someone thinks they're not better than RNG then they should just vote and leave the thread and come back in 48 hours and see how they did. But you clearly said you think you're a good player aka better than RNG so you don't even believe in an RNG lynch.
And I'm going to vote on who I think is scummy. Hopefully its right but even if its wrong then I will be happy that I had some influence over it and not just randomness Last time I'm commenting on this btw as its silly and unhelpful to town.
I'm the best player in TL Mafia and I believe in RNG lynch because it's objectively the best tool. The definition of being a good player is basically using RNG lynch, in a setup like this. You don't just vote randomly and leave the thread, because most people don't do RNG lynch. You make sure everyone else follows you too. By your logic, if I have a scumread on someone, I should just vote them and leave the thread, my job is done.
Typical poof.
So lets say we had an RNG shot and a lynch. BUT you could only base one on RNG. Who do you find scummy in this thread so far that you would have to way in on for the non-RNG portion?
We don't have an RNg shot and a lynch though, we just have a lynch. Let's RNG it.
Dodging productive questions is dumb and scummy and you know it.
On May 21 2014 07:43 Holyflare wrote: [quote] [quote]
despite me being scum in the game he was talking about we literally only won because he was doing what he was doing as town and was an easy mislynch so i'm just going to get rid of him until he learns
Yes you literally only won because of my bad play as town right? Not because NO ONE, LITERALLY NO ONE VOTED FOR A SCUM IN ALL 3 DAYS.
Oh wait, except me.
^^^ case in point
anyway bh if you take out newbie games towns recently have a 40%+ chance of finding mafia day 1 by lynching and so it's obv far better not to rng
And if this game had no newbies in it, I'd take your statistics under advisement. Also in games like 7 town 2 scum (which it ypically use) you'd expect a 25% chance of getting scum anyways, 40% is pretty close.
On May 21 2014 07:47 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 21 2014 07:39 marvellosity wrote: [quote] As you're probably well aware, I've never RNGed, never supported RNG, and never will. Draw your own conclusions :p
I know you disagree with me philosophically about the usefulness of RNG, I just figured maybe in a massively multifactional setup you might find it alluring. Well, next time then!
On May 21 2014 07:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: [quote] Actually yeah, I'm not even gonna argue with you. I play mafia for fun and us all picking an RNG then sitting back and seeing what happens doesn't seem fun to me. Plus I at least have enough faith in my own deduction and reasoning skills to think that I have just as good a chance of finding scum with analysis as RNG does.
Ok, so that's a reason. I will note though that historically, TL towns tend not to statistically significantly outperform RNG on D1. I'm not proposing RNG for no reason; I think lynching OdinofPergo is our best chance today. If nothing else, I guarantee that pulling this off will have two results
1) it will be legendary 2) it will cause a massive shitstorm because everyone hates RNG. this shitstorm will give us lots of things to base reads off of for D2
What reads do you hope to garner? Like based upon the lynch of Odin? Like who defends/pushes him? Why not just do that on someone who actually does something scummy. I think that I'd rather lose to being bad that win to RNG... I'm not playing a slot machine I'm playing mafia. RNG is bad and you should feel bad.
Why not someone else? Because RNG. RNG is the best and I feel good.
Obviously you don't really believe in the strategy. If someone thinks they're not better than RNG then they should just vote and leave the thread and come back in 48 hours and see how they did. But you clearly said you think you're a good player aka better than RNG so you don't even believe in an RNG lynch.
And I'm going to vote on who I think is scummy. Hopefully its right but even if its wrong then I will be happy that I had some influence over it and not just randomness Last time I'm commenting on this btw as its silly and unhelpful to town.
I'm the best player in TL Mafia and I believe in RNG lynch because it's objectively the best tool. The definition of being a good player is basically using RNG lynch, in a setup like this. You don't just vote randomly and leave the thread, because most people don't do RNG lynch. You make sure everyone else follows you too. By your logic, if I have a scumread on someone, I should just vote them and leave the thread, my job is done.
Typical poof.
So lets say we had an RNG shot and a lynch. BUT you could only base one on RNG. Who do you find scummy in this thread so far that you would have to way in on for the non-RNG portion?
We don't have an RNg shot and a lynch though, we just have a lynch. Let's RNG it.
Dodging productive questions is dumb and scummy and you know it.
##Vote: Blazinghand
Contribute or die.
You think a newbie like you has a snowball's chance in hell of pushing a lynch on a vet like me? How cute
So you're someone who has played a lot of games yes? You claim to be good. You claim to be a vet. So help a poor helpless little newbie like myself who literally can't even spell mafai out and tell me who is scum and who I should vote for and why. Because I'm silly and like to use reason and logic for my reads. A trait no doubt I will be strip of once I garner your "Veteran" status.
I've probably played more mafia games than you. I want you to contribute and if you don't then you are useless to me and playing against my (town's) win condition.
On May 21 2014 08:26 27ninjabunnies wrote: What happened to completely ignoring BH?
BH is more likely town here. Putting himself in the spotlight of town would be stupid as mafia unless he has many partners or knows he can get multiple mislynches within the next couple of days if he has town support and it's worth his lynch.
But BH is pushing a losing cause here. He doesn't have much of support at all.
You've seen me play mafia before bunnies on video mafia I come out and just take over and do silly stuff because like BH here I think its very hard for me to get lynched as either alignment... clearly he is quite certain of himself and his playstyle so I think someone who has his persona might do something like this regardless of alignment because he can. Do you see that correlation?
For what its worth I like what you have to say about thrawn his posts so far have been nothing.
On May 21 2014 08:50 Holyflare wrote: ok look bh does this rng thing as any alignment so i suggest moving off of bh for a while
HF haha at least stop giving Steve more fuel to his HF/BH scum fire.
So who should we move onto HF?
I want to know what happened to that BKQ he came in with this post: + Show Spoiler +
On May 21 2014 06:47 bkqyrldp wrote: Nice. The game has just started and there is already many people I dislike. I guess that's to be expected in a game with 4 factions. Steveling is the first one for asking a neutral filler question, followed then by xatalos and marvelocity grabbing that opportunity to provide an easy fake contribution. From those 2 I dislike marvelocity the most, since xatalos was already there bantering, so I'll read less into his response for now. The other person is meapak_ziph.
On May 21 2014 06:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: wait there are four factions in this game?
Guess I might as well read the op then.
Wave that was a mighty suspicious post, sounds like you're trying to make excuses for future bad play...
He came into the thread with a weak confusion comment and something that didn't need to be said. Your post is basically the last line, which is pretty weak if your intent is to gather info from wave.
On May 21 2014 06:48 marvellosity wrote: bkjjgsdklfsdklfjskldfjklsdfjskldfjs, you don't get to speak to me until you can spell my name. Try again in 24h.
but he never addressed him or anyone else again. Like to me seems like "going to run in throw in some scum reads ask a question appear to be analyzing the thread then peace out" Have you played with him before? (this is to everyone) What is he like?
On May 21 2014 08:50 Holyflare wrote: ok look bh does this rng thing as any alignment so i suggest moving off of bh for a while
HF haha at least stop giving Steve more fuel to his HF/BH scum fire.
So who should we move onto HF?
I want to know what happened to that BKQ he came in with this post: + Show Spoiler +
On May 21 2014 06:47 bkqyrldp wrote: Nice. The game has just started and there is already many people I dislike. I guess that's to be expected in a game with 4 factions. Steveling is the first one for asking a neutral filler question, followed then by xatalos and marvelocity grabbing that opportunity to provide an easy fake contribution. From those 2 I dislike marvelocity the most, since xatalos was already there bantering, so I'll read less into his response for now. The other person is meapak_ziph.
On May 21 2014 06:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: wait there are four factions in this game?
Guess I might as well read the op then.
Wave that was a mighty suspicious post, sounds like you're trying to make excuses for future bad play...
He came into the thread with a weak confusion comment and something that didn't need to be said. Your post is basically the last line, which is pretty weak if your intent is to gather info from wave.
On May 21 2014 06:48 marvellosity wrote: bkjjgsdklfsdklfjskldfjklsdfjskldfjs, you don't get to speak to me until you can spell my name. Try again in 24h.
but he never addressed him or anyone else again. Like to me seems like "going to run in throw in some scum reads ask a question appear to be analyzing the thread then peace out" Have you played with him before? (this is to everyone) What is he like?
pretty sure he's a smurf and spelt marv's name wrong so unforgiveable
he's got one post so honestly no idea?
Fair enough it is just one post but I felt that if he really cared about his answers he would have stuck around at least 2-3 minutes.
Who do you think is scummy since BH gets the crazy person yelling pass from you.
On May 21 2014 08:26 27ninjabunnies wrote: What happened to completely ignoring BH?
BH is more likely town here. Putting himself in the spotlight of town would be stupid as mafia unless he has many partners or knows he can get multiple mislynches within the next couple of days if he has town support and it's worth his lynch.
But BH is pushing a losing cause here. He doesn't have much of support at all.
You've seen me play mafia before bunnies on video mafia I come out and just take over and do silly stuff because like BH here I think its very hard for me to get lynched as either alignment... clearly he is quite certain of himself and his playstyle so I think someone who has his persona might do something like this regardless of alignment because he can. Do you see that correlation?
For what its worth I like what you have to say about thrawn his posts so far have been nothing.
Yeah, you do silly stuff regardless of your alignment. But I understand what you mean.
So BH, if you are so good as you say you are, besides you pushing RNG, what reads do you have outside of that?
OdinofPergo is scum. Let's get him. Why all the resistance? What has he done this game to convince you he's town?
Odin hasn't spoken. And the resistance is because you could easily be pushing a ML on a possible role. Or even if he's vanilla town it's still a mislynch.
Like I said, I would rather lynch him based off his play. He hasn't spoken yet, but im willing to give him a chance. If he doesn't prove anything, I wouldn't be opposed to lynching him.
Well for now, why don't you vote him? He hasn't proved anything yet, and it's not like you can't unvote him later. It would help me with wrangling votes since everyone is like "yeah rng sounds good but you have no votes", i want them not to have an excuse.
Don't give them an excuse.
BH, I'm not some little newbie you can sway.
My vote will go on someone who I think is scum at the moment I place my vote, and not before.
I'm going to treat BH like Chompsy.
So bunnies what do you think of Yellow going along with the BH plan? You played with him before ya?
Also @Hapa I like what you said on Valenius he also since then just added on about BH's random lynch bs. Adding fluff onto fluff.
##Vote: Valenius
Maybe we can play mafia instead of slot machine's like BH wants to
On May 21 2014 09:14 geript wrote: Hey PoofyMcPoofkins. Just vote slam. He's 100% not going to flip town. I asked ABBA and ABBA agrees.
Just shoot him I can't read him ever in the history of ever. Also his wagon would be corrupt because its an easy bus for mafia and town who don't know how to read him (might be hesitant) but if you're sure then by the grace of ABBA fire away.
Speaking of ABBA I'm going to summoner austin: Come to us and preach to us the ways.
Also what are your feelings not on if that BKQ guy is a smurf but his alignment that post was hella scummy imo.
On May 21 2014 10:04 geript wrote: Like WTF people? We have guaranteed scum in Slam. It's a 100% read and I've never read him wrong. Hell last game he was under fire I flipped my read on him because of how well I understand his play despite Rayn being 100% against me. Like wtf. Just lynch Slam already.
Shoot him if you are 100% and lynch someone that gives us more info. Like if you're wrong on slam and he flips town we know 1) geript was wrong on slam or you were right on slam. If we lynch him then even if you're right mafia can play it off like "i didn't trust geripts read on slam" or pull out any of the number of weird things slam will post between now and EoD and mark it as a "town tell" they had wrong on him. So getting slam lynched I don't feel will garner us information.
Who else is scum besides Slam? Do you think marv is scum for real or you just shooting him cause he disagrees with you?
On May 21 2014 09:21 layabout wrote: There better be a load of smurfs cus i only know half of these names, if you dont know me please don't be a bitch about post count i am called layabout for a reason
#vote blazinghand on second thought i better read the thread first
Excuses about post count before anyone says anything about him, and a crossed vote on blazinghand (probably the most visible player so far) while pretending he hadn't read the thread.
So how did you pick Blazing there if you hadn't read the thread, layabout? RNG just falling on the most visible guy?
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And his most recent post just now has some contradictory ideas about RNG. Open to it in theory, but then lists stuff he hates about it. Mehhh.
I like you. I agree on your read on BKQ and this is a good point on layabout. Did you see Hapa's info on Valenius? + Show Spoiler +
On May 21 2014 07:54 Hapahauli wrote: Two things:
@ Holyflare
Why are you playing as if you have a stick up your butt?
On May 21 2014 06:22 Valenius wrote: 9 player day 1's normally confuse me. gg.
Sheep me sheeping marv. ezgame ezlife.
i thought you were hosting. wtf.
##vote: Koshi
Even though I am a divine being in this game. I ascended and joined the plebs. I don't have anything against plebs though, they are simple but amusing beings. I allow the smartest of them to call me Koshi. You can call me Master.
I might have meant descended. It is just hard for me to grasp going downwards.
It was such a nice post, I wasn't going to correct it for you.
On May 21 2014 06:49 Yell0w wrote: So about this whole RNG thing, aren't scum players more likely to vote for OdinofPergo if he isn't in their faction since they don't even need a reason to vote him? They can just claim they're doing it for RNG and get a lynch on someone who isn't aligned with them?
Wouldn't a better way be to each claim we are RNG voting, then use the RNG on the post in which we claimed it and then vote for whomever our own post said? So that there is no way to know if you're going to lynch someone of your own faction or not so it's riskier for scum to go by RNG? Maybe I'm completely wrong here.
I like that, I haven't thought it through - But I like it.
RNG V2
On May 21 2014 06:52 Valenius wrote: Actually, won't it cause the same theoretical situation, just with votes more spread?
On May 21 2014 07:33 Xatalos wrote: Why this change of heart?
Chalis (ハート Heart) is an antagonist in Golden Sun: Dark Dawn. Together with Blados, she is one of the commanders of a secretive military nation named Tuaparang.
All three are bad guys taunting us in the thread. I rest my case.
On May 21 2014 07:36 marvellosity wrote: Xatalos, I really have no idea, nor do I care, because I don't particularly strive to be consistent from game to game. Honestly the fact that you're beating away at this makes you look kinda better though, so maybe I'll unvote you if I'm feeling nice
On May 21 2014 07:32 Holyflare wrote: yes please do
##unvote ##vote steveling
You do realise, though, that Steve's semi-ridiculous behaviour makes it less likely he's mafia though, yes? (or traditional mafia. I'm just gonna say town for town and mafia for all the other factions until something tells me otherwise)
On May 21 2014 07:20 Holyflare wrote: if you're gonna play like last game i will actually policy lynch you and i honestly don't care
despite me being scum in the game he was talking about we literally only won because he was doing what he was doing as town and was an easy mislynch so i'm just going to get rid of him until he learns
Yes you literally only won because of my bad play as town right? Not because NO ONE, LITERALLY NO ONE VOTED FOR A SCUM IN ALL 3 DAYS.
Oh wait, except me.
^^^ case in point
anyway bh if you take out newbie games towns recently have a 40%+ chance of finding mafia day 1 by lynching and so it's obv far better not to rng
If you add in newbie games, we just lynch town/any claimed power roles. ezpz
6 posts, all of them a mixture of "+1'ing" other people and irrelevant comments. His filter reads a lot like someone who's artificially trying to insert himself in discussion.
##Vote: Valenius
I think the same thing on Vale and his posts seem fluffy. What do you think of them?
On May 21 2014 10:39 austinmcc wrote: Praise be unto ABBA for a new and glorious game. I'm all ready to play Personal Vendetta Mafia, where everyone picks a partner and snipes back and forth and doesn't drop it.
BH, on an actual serious note, if you will, what do you believe is the value of an RNG vote in GENERAL? Purely to have an x% chance of hitting mafia?
WoS possible mafia for posting THIS for Lazy Town
instead of this
Praise be to ABBA indeed. I'm with Marv ignore the fuck out of BH. What do you feel about the stuff Hapa/Bluedy have posted?
On May 21 2014 10:16 mtamburini wrote: cool im town read see you final 3 mafia remember I got the hammer.
Your stream of conscious post was super long please make shorter posts. So what do you think of Hf/Steve/Marv/geript some of the others seems like you just focused on people you know/have played with for the most part. I don't agree with your MZ read btw. I felt BKQ, Velanius and layabout were way scummier today.
On May 21 2014 10:57 geript wrote: @Snooglewoogle. I need the blessings of ABBA to shoot Marv. Please make the appropriate sacrifices.
Do you actually think Marv is scum or you just doing it cause he disagrees with you on slam? If you think scum is Slam and you shoot marv because you think hes cockblocking the lynch on slam that would be the most asinine play ever. Shoot who you think is lock scum lets find someone else scummy. What do you think of BKQ/Velanius/layabout?
On May 21 2014 10:53 BlueyD wrote: Wasn't so convinced by the case on Valenius when I read it. His posts weren't pretend-contributions of the scummy type, they were just obviously irrelevant.
Don't like how he follows it up with RNG-lynch talk, though. The whole thing is just a good place for scum to hide and not have to make any reads.
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On layabout: I'd like someone who knows him to confirm he always picks BH for an early vote...
I think the RNG-lynch talk plus the 1 upping is what made him scummy. Like no real thread interactions easily fabricated by scum with little effort and seeming like hes contributing without contributing.
@Everyone Read Valenius Filter (its short as fuck) and tell me why you think hes town.
@Marv you keep making comments but where are you at on reads. People say you're really good at giving reads and trying hard as town thus you die a lot n1 so who is scummy? Also anyone else can answer too but not a lot of reads going out plenty of fluff for scum to hide in ::cough:: + Show Spoiler +
On May 21 2014 09:11 geript wrote: Also @Hapa. Why aren't you reading me as the most obviously town in this game?
I do think you're town, but Steveling is more obvious. Ranking townies is a kinda silly game to play this early in the game though - what's important is that I'd lynch neither of you.
Also that push on HF was weird. It's like a really odd push from you.
What's strange about it? He wants to policy lynch my top town read, and someone he should know is obviously town.
It was the wording you used. Like I don't see how any response he could give would be alignment indicative whatsoever. Usually when there's 1:1 action there's more of a push in a different direction than "Why do you want to lynch obvious town?" Like usually when people step into town on town action they try to convince both sides that the other is town or convince both sides that there's confirmation bias. Anything really. If they think that it's Mafia on Town action the tend to try to get the mafia to explain their points on the subject and on others to force them into a catchable stance or mentality slip. So I find it odd that you're approaching HF like he's town (honestly who knows with him) but aren't really aiming towards Steveling at all. It's a very odd approach.
Geript talk to me about BKQ/Venalius/layabout.
I don't understand Slam's meta at all (honestly never seen him as scum so don't know the game) I agree his entrance was weird but I always think so. So lets talk about other people and if we can't hash out a better scum target I'll vote him EoD if you still read him as scum and don't want to shoot him for some reason.
I think Hapa is town here hes actually been focused on finding scum a rare trait in this thread. His HF thing I agree with HF pushing the policy on Steve makes me roll my eyes cause I was in the game hes talking about and I just see steve getting all mad and stuff and read it as town and wouldn't policy lynch someone I thought was townie.
@Ceph the questions you asked bunnies Can you detail how you would think she would answer them as town? Reading your case to me it seems like you asked the line of questions with the intent of calling her mafia at the end or at least they are questions that confirm a notion that she is scum vs going into it with a null read. I think you case is confirmation bias and I don't think bunnies is scum here. If she was mafia she would be WAY WAY WAY more careful with how much she talks/posts she wouldn't interject/interact with lots of people and your line of questions in court would be akin to "leading the witness"
On May 21 2014 09:11 geript wrote: Also @Hapa. Why aren't you reading me as the most obviously town in this game?
I do think you're town, but Steveling is more obvious. Ranking townies is a kinda silly game to play this early in the game though - what's important is that I'd lynch neither of you.
Also that push on HF was weird. It's like a really odd push from you.
What's strange about it? He wants to policy lynch my top town read, and someone he should know is obviously town.
It was the wording you used. Like I don't see how any response he could give would be alignment indicative whatsoever. Usually when there's 1:1 action there's more of a push in a different direction than "Why do you want to lynch obvious town?" Like usually when people step into town on town action they try to convince both sides that the other is town or convince both sides that there's confirmation bias. Anything really. If they think that it's Mafia on Town action the tend to try to get the mafia to explain their points on the subject and on others to force them into a catchable stance or mentality slip. So I find it odd that you're approaching HF like he's town (honestly who knows with him) but aren't really aiming towards Steveling at all. It's a very odd approach.
Geript talk to me about BKQ/Venalius/layabout.
I don't understand Slam's meta at all (honestly never seen him as scum so don't know the game) I agree his entrance was weird but I always think so. So lets talk about other people and if we can't hash out a better scum target I'll vote him EoD if you still read him as scum and don't want to shoot him for some reason.
I think Hapa is town here hes actually been focused on finding scum a rare trait in this thread. His HF thing I agree with HF pushing the policy on Steve makes me roll my eyes cause I was in the game hes talking about and I just see steve getting all mad and stuff and read it as town and wouldn't policy lynch someone I thought was townie.
BKQ read is dependent on who I think he is. I need to reread a Vivax game or two to double check but I'm thinking it's Vivax. Off the top of my head I thought he was town if Vivax but again. I'd need to meta a few games to be sure.
Neither Val nor Layabout have really stuck out. I don't hate Hapa's point on Val +1ing stuff but I don't find it exceptionally damning either. I've seen lots of bad town do that.
Course all this is without reading any of their filters so subject to change when I read them after work.
EPT
Last time I'm commenting on this btw as its silly and unhelpful to town. ![[image loading]](http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120309173425/goldensun/images/thumb/b/ba/GSHeart.jpg/240px-GSHeart.jpg)
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