I don't have time to read your entire case on me in detail, but I skimmed it briefly and it seems to be pretty similar to the one that Austin made on me Night 1. I spent quite a bit of time/sanity replying to that, so just read my replies. Even I had the time to defend myself, I'm not keen on repeating everything I've said last night, and I have no intention of wasting my time and effort like that again.
Also, please read my cases and tell me if you agree/disagree with them, because blanketing all my analysis as "going after low-postcount people" is a horseshit generalization of my posts.
I think my case about your uneven criticism/hyprocrisy is fairly unrebutted. I also think your tambo read and its progression is very weird and unrebutted.
Haven't read that, but I suspect a good portion of that read can be explained by the fact that I don't give a shit about pushing any scumread other than yell0w right now.
Also, again you criticize yell0w for wanting to lynch people but not voting/pushing on them. You kinda did that with me...so that just kinda furthers that.
Errr no? My case on yell0w is completely different.
I'm not voting you because I have far bigger scumreads than you. Compared to yell0w, I don't give a flying fuck about lynching you. My top scumread is yell0w and I want him dead.
The difference with yell0w is that...
His only stated scumread was on mtamburini.
He kept his vote on Odin despite it being an RNG vote.
He indirectly admits to wanting to lynch mtamburini.
There is *nothing* in his filter that suggests he was afk or forgot to change his vote to mtamburini - in fact, he was active 5 hours before the lynch deadline and did not do jack shit with his vote despite having a stated scumread on mtamburini for 12 hours.
Like if you think for two seconds, you can understand why those two scenarios are completely different. I will not defend myself until you can provide me an explanation of how yell0w does this as town.
I have been pretty sold on yell0w as town because of this
On May 21 2014 09:59 Yell0w wrote: I suck at quoting and tamburini was way too long so it's confusing for me but anyways.
Again this post made my brain bleed. Yellow if this is your town play and how you scumhunt then I for towns sake I hope you are the cop so you can get some REAL information and dont have to try these unrealistic tactics to catch scum.
I don't get what was wrong with my post or how what you said is relevant to it, someone talked about a situation and I said if that situation happened, we would easily be able to catch scum. Obviously that situation is not going to happen, but I'm not the one who brought it up, so I don't really know what the issue is.
Compared to this from the newbie game I played with him:
On April 29 2014 11:50 Amiko wrote: @Yell0w: What do you think of ninjabunnies voting for you? As in, do you see that as a more town response by her? A more mafia response by her? Neutral?
I don't really know, she has a reasoning for it, she played with people who claimed mafia like that and ended up actually being mafia, but obviously it's flawed logic and anecdotal evidence, it's not because someone did it that me making a joke about being mafia means I'm mafia.
But that fact that she has that reason makes me think she's not doing it as a mafia play, but obviously she might just have come up with it to make it seems that way, so I don't know.
For me he just has similar levels of lack of self awareness in his play. It's a gut read from the start, so I probably can't communicate it to you that well.
I could not care less about your incomplete meta read, nor do your "gut" reads explain away his behavior.
Once again, read this, and tell me how it makes sense.
On May 25 2014 12:47 Hapahauli wrote:
The difference with yell0w, is that...
His only stated scumread was on mtamburini.
He kept his vote on Odin despite it being an RNG vote.
He indirectly admits to wanting to lynch mtamburini.
There is *nothing* in his filter that suggests he was afk or forgot to change his vote to mtamburini - in fact, he was active 5 hours before the lynch deadline and did not do jack shit with his vote despite having a stated scumread on mtamburini for 12 hours.
If you do not understand how I am drawing these bullet points, I will lay it out for the thread yet again. Like I'm not even asking for a lot - all I ask you to do is give me any *plausible* town explanation for how town-yell0w does those actions.
On May 25 2014 12:54 marvellosity wrote: ritoky: in all fairness, that doesn't answer Hapa's query.
about the cases being different?
yeah he is mostly right about it, i mostly wanted to prod him a bit more so he would go back and actually read through my stuff and give me a solid response.
Am I the only person who thinks that a town yell0w is good enough at mafia (i.e. knows the most basic of basic objectives of town-play) to vote for his only scumread on Day 1?
If I am incorrect in this assumption, I will scrap my case.
On May 25 2014 12:54 marvellosity wrote: ritoky: in all fairness, that doesn't answer Hapa's query.
about the cases being different?
yeah he is mostly right about it, i mostly wanted to prod him a bit more so he would go back and actually read through my stuff and give me a solid response.
Until you display basic reading comprehension, it is a complete waste of my time to defend myself.
You will not understand my defense if you cannot understand a very basic mafia case.
On May 25 2014 12:58 Hapahauli wrote: Like I'm not even asking for a lot - all I ask you to do is give me any *plausible* town explanation for how town-yell0w does those actions.
On May 21 2014 08:55 Yell0w wrote: Okay so I'm behind an RNG lynch
On May 25 2014 12:58 Hapahauli wrote: Like I'm not even asking for a lot - all I ask you to do is give me any *plausible* town explanation for how town-yell0w does those actions.
On May 25 2014 12:58 Hapahauli wrote: Like I'm not even asking for a lot - all I ask you to do is give me any *plausible* town explanation for how town-yell0w does those actions.
IF SOMEONE ACTUALLY THINKS THAT AN RNG LYNCH IS A GOOD IDEA, A POSITIVE, WHATEVER
THEN THEY HAVE A REASON TO RNG LYNCH
I see nothing in Yellow's filter that says "AN RNG LYNCH IS A BAD IDEA LET'S NOT DO THAT." I see multiple posts basically plotting the best way to RNG lynch.
If Yellow actively thinks RNG lynching is good, then I can understand what up.
He kept his vote on Odin despite it being an RNG vote.
He indirectly admits to wanting to lynch mtamburini.
There is *nothing* in his filter that suggests he was afk or forgot to change his vote to mtamburini - in fact, he was active 5 hours before the lynch deadline and did not do jack shit with his vote despite having a stated scumread on mtamburini for 12 hours.
If you do not understand how I am drawing these bullet points, I will lay it out for the thread yet again. Like I'm not even asking for a lot - all I ask you to do is give me any *plausible* town explanation for how town-yell0w does those actions.
I mean he clearly states in his very small filter that he is sold on BH's RNG = 40% chance to hit scum argument. He gets on board early and never gets off. He made a call and went with it. I don't know what you want me to say. I can't speak for the guy cuz I don't know what he was thinking. Is it strange that he doesn't push one of his two scum reads (oh yeah he had two, 1 on me and 1 on tambo)? Yes it is. Is it a valid criticism that needs to be responded to? Yes it is. Is this outside of some of the wonky things I saw him do in the last game? No it isn't.
Why the fuck do I even play this game? No matter how much I explain basic things, pay attention to presentation, detail, and a clean/logical argument, everyone just literally doesn't read.
On May 25 2014 13:07 austinmcc wrote: ATTENTION HAPA
YOU WANT A REASON
IF SOMEONE ACTUALLY THINKS THAT AN RNG LYNCH IS A GOOD IDEA, A POSITIVE, WHATEVER
THEN THEY HAVE A REASON TO RNG LYNCH
I see nothing in Yellow's filter that says "AN RNG LYNCH IS A BAD IDEA LET'S NOT DO THAT." I see multiple posts basically plotting the best way to RNG lynch.
If Yellow actively thinks RNG lynching is good, then I can understand what up.
HE ADMITTED TO WANTING TO LYNCH TAMBO ON DAY1. GOOD LORD.
Why the fuck do I even play this game? No matter how much I explain basic things, pay attention to presentation, detail, and a clean/logical argument, everyone just literally doesn't read.
No, you didn't.
Hi, my name is Jimbo.
I like poetry, long walks on the beach, lynching mafia, and RNG lynching. ALL OF THESE THINGS are things I like.
I think mtambo is mafia. I think we have a possible RNG lynch.
I 100% get what you're saying with "not wanting to lynch anymore" ---> he wanted to lynch mtam ---> well that's odd because he never voted no mtam and instead voted RNG.
If you actually VALUE an RNG lynch though, and you can vote ONE PERSON, then you either vote RNG (which you like) or mtam (who you think is scum, and you like lynching scum, so you like this too).
But the fact remains you can only vote for ONE thing.
EPT
