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Wave can you stay awake for like 5 mins?
I have a quick line of questioning I need you to answer and I want fast responses from you.
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United Kingdom30775 Posts
On May 22 2014 16:11 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
midterms tomorrow, so i haven't had time to even read the thread. The last time i looked we where on page 60... lol. Looks like i have a lot of reading to do catch up on later...
i hate to say it, but how much of this is a worthwhile read?
You are getting lynched at the moment so all of it
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On May 22 2014 15:56 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 15:01 geript wrote:On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.
I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.
Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.
I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town. Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time. If by all the time, you mean his one game as town... On May 22 2014 08:07 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:04 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.
I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.
Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.
I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town. Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time. Before we start arguing, I want to know what "genuine" is. Genuine can be many things. What's "townie" about his filter is that he's constantly posting without thinking, getting into many fights, and is generally wearing his emotions on his sleeve. Contrast this with normal mafia instincts to hide, avoid conflict, etc. Also, look at his past games and compare them to this one. If you haven't done that, then your analysis is meaningless. I have. I pointed out that he's gotten in shit fights as scum before. As a matter of fact, as town, he got in far less shitfights AND his posting was far more full of actual content. On May 22 2014 08:18 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:12 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:07 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:04 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.
I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.
Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.
I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town. Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time. Before we start arguing, I want to know what "genuine" is. Genuine can be many things. What's "townie" about his filter is that he's constantly posting without thinking, getting into many fights, and is generally wearing his emotions on his sleeve. Contrast this with normal mafia instincts to hide, avoid conflict, etc. Also, look at his past games and compare them to this one. If you haven't done that, then your analysis is meaningless. I've played with him before. He is doing the exact same thing he was doing in Cell, making people feel smart and getting people to ignore him. It's spammier than normal, but that's not the issue that I have with him. Like some of the players right now are just calling it boring (Koshi) without trying to see if it's legitimately true or not. Why is this not an issue for you? Nothing in this post describes why Steveling is scum. You compare his play in Cell to his play here, but they look very different at first glance to me. He is definetely active in Cell, but seems a lot more calm. Compared to this game, he's picking fights and is generally an attention-whore. He was pretty whorish too. Plus for getting in as many fights as he's had, in all of those, he's been the calm one in them. He's the one who cares about whether or not he gets in trouble for it. On May 22 2014 08:23 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:20 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:18 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:12 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:07 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:04 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.
I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.
Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.
I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town. Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time. Before we start arguing, I want to know what "genuine" is. Genuine can be many things. What's "townie" about his filter is that he's constantly posting without thinking, getting into many fights, and is generally wearing his emotions on his sleeve. Contrast this with normal mafia instincts to hide, avoid conflict, etc. Also, look at his past games and compare them to this one. If you haven't done that, then your analysis is meaningless. I've played with him before. He is doing the exact same thing he was doing in Cell, making people feel smart and getting people to ignore him. It's spammier than normal, but that's not the issue that I have with him. Like some of the players right now are just calling it boring (Koshi) without trying to see if it's legitimately true or not. Why is this not an issue for you? Nothing in this post describes why Steveling is scum. You compare his play in Cell to his play here, but they look very different at first glance to me. He is definetely active in Cell, but seems a lot more calm. Compared to this game, he's picking fights and is generally an attention-whore. Then check my filter for the big, red-titled post on why I thought he was scum. But that's the thing - those types of posts you point out "after the spam" really aren't present in Cell Mafia. He just seems as a whole so much more hyper and emotional in this game. Anyway, talk to me about some other people. Layabout, tambo, ritoky, etc. I agree that his play on face value looks different from Cell. But it also looks exceptionally different from Glory Hole. The trends in his play are far more reflective is his Cell game than his Gloryhole game. Like I really don't get how you could meta a player so awfully. Mine explaining why you've protected Scumeling so many times on bad meta? I really don't know how to say it any better than I have: the guy has a fucking 10 page filter in 24 hours. If you think mafia can do that, you're insane. But then again, I really don't feel like arguing any more since... a) There's no way I'm going to convince someone confirmation biased enough to call the guy "scumelling" over and overa gain. b) Steveling isn't getting lynched. My target of choice is. c) The "oats-whisperer" does not get to lecture me on how to interpret meta cases.
I'm not arguing with you. I don't even care if Scumeling gets lynched today. He is going to get lynched this game. I've been trying to make points on why I think you're wrong. You don't want to listen to them. That's fine. I'm going to keep on banging that drum. At some point, you'll be dead. He's scum and I'm not going to shoot him. That's a waste of my shot to shoot someone who I could just as easily lynch.
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I'm honestly not sure I've been as frustrated playing mafia as I have with this game. When I'm not "going crazy" nobody likes or listens to my points. When I am "going crazy" nobody likes or listens to my points. I think i'm just going to start randomly voting for people and making posts like, "Dat gui soo scummy. Weird post. I am towniest town evar." I should also probably make sure every other post is mine and no longer than a line or two. I should also treat the thread like twitter: no posts longer than 140 characters. Like this game is pretty ridiculous when we can't lynch someone who doesn't bother to read or think about the game, who adds nothing to it, etc. Like honestly Hapa, can you think of one useful post that Scumeling has made? Any single one. Because when you can't, I don't get why you think his 11 page filter makes him town when he's proven that filter length is in no way alignment indicative for him.
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Blazinghand
United States25553 Posts
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On May 22 2014 16:28 geript wrote:
I'm honestly not sure I've been as frustrated playing mafia as I have with this game. When I'm not "going crazy" nobody likes or listens to my points. When I am "going crazy" nobody likes or listens to my points. I think i'm just going to start randomly voting for people and making posts like, "Dat gui soo scummy. Weird post. I am towniest town evar." I should also probably make sure every other post is mine and no longer than a line or two. I should also treat the thread like twitter: no posts longer than 140 characters. Like this game is pretty ridiculous when we can't lynch someone who doesn't bother to read or think about the game, who adds nothing to it, etc. Like honestly Hapa, can you think of one useful post that Scumeling has made? Any single one. Because when you can't, I don't get why you think his 11 page filter makes him town when he's proven that filter length is in no way alignment indicative for him.
I haven't seen the non-crazy side of you this game yet.
You started off fake-claiming vigi to everyone who could hear you, then latched on to tunnel the most spammy and poster in the thread. I've taken your cases seriously, and I've spent more time looking at Steveling's past games than I should have, thinking that I must have missed something about his play. However your case at-best says that he's null. At worst, it's seething with confirmation bias against an obvious townie. I believe it's the latter.
And goddamnit it's frustrating to have this same argument with you over and over again. Because...
a) You insist on pushing your cases in the most dickish way possible, immediately dismissing anyone who disagrees with you.
b) The language of your cases shows very *obvious* confirmation bias - like ffs you're calling the freggin guy "scumeling."
c) You refuse to do ANYTHING other than tunnel a guy into the ground. Like hell, give me thoughts on another of the wagons or something. Many players have taken their time to talk about Steveling, and you refuse to return the favor and contribute to town discussion.
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Blazinghand
United States25553 Posts
Not cause I think he's scum I just want him dead.
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On May 22 2014 16:13 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 16:11 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
midterms tomorrow, so i haven't had time to even read the thread. The last time i looked we where on page 60... lol. Looks like i have a lot of reading to do catch up on later...
i hate to say it, but how much of this is a worthwhile read? You are getting lynched at the moment so all of it
There isnts even a single vote for me...
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On May 22 2014 16:38 MysteryMeat1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 16:13 Holyflare wrote:On May 22 2014 16:11 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
midterms tomorrow, so i haven't had time to even read the thread. The last time i looked we where on page 60... lol. Looks like i have a lot of reading to do catch up on later...
i hate to say it, but how much of this is a worthwhile read? You are getting lynched at the moment so all of it There isnts even a single vote for me...
Woah, nice bait HF.
MM1 is either a lazy town who though of checking with the vote thread to see whats up or a very disturbed scum.
People who know him well speak up.
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On May 22 2014 16:35 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm fine lynching geript
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Blazinghand
United States25553 Posts
##would Vote geript
Vote geript. If he dies he stops talking. We all want that. Only vote jp him if you're út t early unwilling to vote lei odin
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On May 22 2014 16:35 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm fine lynching geript
It took you two hours to come up with this?
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Blazinghand
United States25553 Posts
Go Omg I can't stop giggling. Getting 23rd looks. Y3
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Blazinghand
United States25553 Posts
Ok vr ddjbb err brb.
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Bo 63 odin. What has he done for towbn. Why would he invite me. He's proof dc in scum. Ring worked
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On May 22 2014 16:42 Blazinghand wrote:
Ok vr ddjbb err brb.
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Bo 63 odin. What has he done for towbn. Why would he invite me. He's proof dc in scum. Ring worked
I don't buy this bullshit at all BH. My patience is running thin.
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Blazinghand
United States25553 Posts
On May 22 2014 16:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 16:42 Blazinghand wrote:
Ok vr ddjbb err brb.
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Bo 63 odin. What has he done for towbn. Why would he invite me. He's proof dc in scum. Ring worked I don't buy this bullshit at all BH. My patience is running thin.
Isaaaaaaaaaac
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On May 22 2014 16:45 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 16:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 22 2014 16:42 Blazinghand wrote:
Ok vr ddjbb err brb.
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Bo 63 odin. What has he done for towbn. Why would he invite me. He's proof dc in scum. Ring worked I don't buy this bullshit at all BH. My patience is running thin. Isaaaaaaaaaac
I actually don't give a fuck, Kita already disproved any role=alignment nonsense.
How badly do you want to test your unlynchable claim?
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Blazinghand isn't worth a lynch. He's someone who should be shot tonight.
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Perhaps you've missed that I too liked Tambo. I just haven't been beating that drum because well, I don't think I need to. I haven't hated Austin's push on Layabout; his reads were like complete disconnects from the actual thread and so freaking weird I decided to troll Scumeling with them. Or how about idk like Yellow and some of the other players I bothered to read last night. like Ritoky a lot of people are talking about, I thought he was town last night. HF probably town. Marv acting strange imo; like his short filter length combined with his lack of funny combined with me not loving the major things he's pushed have really irked me. Like Layabout and tambo aren't bad shots. But between the ridiculous amount of spam and stupidity we get from Scumeling, I don't even fucking care what his alignment is at this point. He looks super scummy and he's completely worthless as far as getting ANY information. I say get him out early instead of late. Hell Slam is not town. Like he's clearly not town. Maybe there's some theoretical he's about to lose his job/life/everything/get kicked out of his home/etc. shit going on, but this is so far from town slam it's not even funny. Like Kush has trouble reading him, but he flat out agrees with me which should be like warning signs since he's played a decent amount with him on OMGUS. Hell Fool was even all like, "Damn those are some really good points but IDFK shit about how to read Slam." Hell I've commented numerous times about how fucking odd BH is being. He hasn't pushed a single reasonable read; I'd have to double check but at no point is BH trying to policy lynch me. He think I could actually be scum; I don't see any world where town BH could even possibly think that. Plus, him being as decent a player as he is and only pushing and spewing complete crap about RNG for day 1 is and should be a huge red flag. But everyone's giving him a free pass for it. Like it's inane.
Like you think I push in the most assholey/dickish manner. Geez like I try to tone it back, but shit. Like the more I get ignored, the more I'm going to head towards being louder and more dickish. I can be a confident, cocky arrogant son of a bitch. I'm also very good even if you think the "oats whisperer is just trash." Like I don't see how you can pass off Scumeling's super weird back and forth stances on me, BH, HF, Cav, others. Like it's so completely non-sensical it blows my mind ever time I read his filter. For me there's a huge difference between a towny living/posting in the moment and a scum just posting whatever because no one reads it.
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Hey geript, you're someone who I've found abrasive and irritating in the past but right now, in this moment I can see you are clearly trying to argue calmly and logically and for that you have my respect.
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