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Blazinghand
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HF and steve are both misusing/trying to manipulate basic mafia terminology and I don't know whether to laugh or cry. You boys should take your beef back to the newbie games for a bit.
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Sry about the bus photo I just had to do it, xD.
By bus I mean any any wagon, not only scum wagon.
So by saying that I didn't imply that she is scum.
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On May 22 2014 15:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
HF and steve are both misusing/trying to manipulate basic mafia terminology and I don't know whether to laugh or cry. You boys should take your beef back to the newbie games for a bit.
Ey I'm newbie I don't deny it, that's basically my 2nd town game.
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Mafia terms with meapak
Mafia Acronyms 103
Bandwagon (Bandwagoning)
-A bandwagon occurs, when someone decides to vote someone during the day phase as their lynch target, and the whole town follows, without having substantial evidence.
Use in context: "Steveling thought that the votes on Tamburini were a bandwagon and not a bus like he had previously stated."
Source: http://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Bandwagon
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So I nailed it with my 2nd try.
That's good right?
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On May 22 2014 15:44 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 15:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
HF and steve are both misusing/trying to manipulate basic mafia terminology and I don't know whether to laugh or cry. You boys should take your beef back to the newbie games for a bit. Ey I'm newbie I don't deny it, that's basically my 2nd town game.
Ok didn't know. Look dude, in that case lemme give you some free advice, take it for what it's worth I'm not trying to be condescending. It's not always necessary to be the guy doing the talking and if someone starts shit with you often times the towniest thing to do is give a response and walk away. Several times filter length has been mentioned and I'll say this; baring very few exceptions, the best, towniest players are not the guys with the longest filters.
/soapbox
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so which is it, is he trying to manipulate it or is he misusing it?
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On May 22 2014 15:41 Blazinghand wrote:
RIP Kenpachi
BH if you don't wanna hunt scum then give me 1 one (1) good reason not to lynch you. Remember that's one (1) good reason, it should be easier than the three (3) good scum reads I asked for.
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Alright then.
But then what should I do if someone is talking shit?
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On May 22 2014 15:51 OnceKing wrote:
so which is it, is he trying to manipulate it or is he misusing it?
Honestly I'll buy the newbie excuse with him. He had been talking a big game and shit earlier so I assumed he had at least played more but if this is really his second time I can see where the mistake would happen. HF on the other hand is manipulating because he is more experienced and is being intentionally thick but w/e, because of the general feel of the thread I've dropped that for now.
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On May 22 2014 15:01 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.
I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.
Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.
I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town. Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time. If by all the time, you mean his one game as town... Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 08:07 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:04 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.
I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.
Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.
I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town. Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time. Before we start arguing, I want to know what "genuine" is. Genuine can be many things. What's "townie" about his filter is that he's constantly posting without thinking, getting into many fights, and is generally wearing his emotions on his sleeve. Contrast this with normal mafia instincts to hide, avoid conflict, etc. Also, look at his past games and compare them to this one. If you haven't done that, then your analysis is meaningless. I have. I pointed out that he's gotten in shit fights as scum before. As a matter of fact, as town, he got in far less shitfights AND his posting was far more full of actual content. Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 08:18 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:12 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:07 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:04 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.
I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.
Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.
I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town. Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time. Before we start arguing, I want to know what "genuine" is. Genuine can be many things. What's "townie" about his filter is that he's constantly posting without thinking, getting into many fights, and is generally wearing his emotions on his sleeve. Contrast this with normal mafia instincts to hide, avoid conflict, etc. Also, look at his past games and compare them to this one. If you haven't done that, then your analysis is meaningless. I've played with him before. He is doing the exact same thing he was doing in Cell, making people feel smart and getting people to ignore him. It's spammier than normal, but that's not the issue that I have with him. Like some of the players right now are just calling it boring (Koshi) without trying to see if it's legitimately true or not. Why is this not an issue for you? Nothing in this post describes why Steveling is scum. You compare his play in Cell to his play here, but they look very different at first glance to me. He is definetely active in Cell, but seems a lot more calm. Compared to this game, he's picking fights and is generally an attention-whore. He was pretty whorish too. Plus for getting in as many fights as he's had, in all of those, he's been the calm one in them. He's the one who cares about whether or not he gets in trouble for it. Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 08:23 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:20 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:18 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:12 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:07 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:04 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.
I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.
Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.
I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town. Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time. Before we start arguing, I want to know what "genuine" is. Genuine can be many things. What's "townie" about his filter is that he's constantly posting without thinking, getting into many fights, and is generally wearing his emotions on his sleeve. Contrast this with normal mafia instincts to hide, avoid conflict, etc. Also, look at his past games and compare them to this one. If you haven't done that, then your analysis is meaningless. I've played with him before. He is doing the exact same thing he was doing in Cell, making people feel smart and getting people to ignore him. It's spammier than normal, but that's not the issue that I have with him. Like some of the players right now are just calling it boring (Koshi) without trying to see if it's legitimately true or not. Why is this not an issue for you? Nothing in this post describes why Steveling is scum. You compare his play in Cell to his play here, but they look very different at first glance to me. He is definetely active in Cell, but seems a lot more calm. Compared to this game, he's picking fights and is generally an attention-whore. Then check my filter for the big, red-titled post on why I thought he was scum. But that's the thing - those types of posts you point out "after the spam" really aren't present in Cell Mafia. He just seems as a whole so much more hyper and emotional in this game. Anyway, talk to me about some other people. Layabout, tambo, ritoky, etc. I agree that his play on face value looks different from Cell. But it also looks exceptionally different from Glory Hole. The trends in his play are far more reflective is his Cell game than his Gloryhole game. Like I really don't get how you could meta a player so awfully. Mine explaining why you've protected Scumeling so many times on bad meta?
I really don't know how to say it any better than I have: the guy has a fucking 10 page filter in 24 hours. If you think mafia can do that, you're insane.
But then again, I really don't feel like arguing any more since...
a) There's no way I'm going to convince someone confirmation biased enough to call the guy "scumelling" over and overa gain.
b) Steveling isn't getting lynched. My target of choice is.
c) The "oats-whisperer" does not get to lecture me on how to interpret meta cases.
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On May 22 2014 15:53 Steveling wrote:
Alright then.
But then what should I do if someone is talking shit?
Let them. Who gives a fuck it's online mafia. If they're making rational arguments and you're town then you should be able to refute them, if you're scum well good luck, sometimes you argue your way out sometimes you don't. But if the person coming after you sounds like a madman then nobody will listen and everyone will probably think that person is scummy. But if you think the person is a madman and everyone else is agreeing with them I'll give you a hint, it's probably not them it's you.
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On May 22 2014 15:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
HF and steve are both misusing/trying to manipulate basic mafia terminology and I don't know whether to laugh or cry. You boys should take your beef back to the newbie games for a bit.
If you still think it's omgus after I've explained why it's not then i suggest you follow that advice that you just tried to give me
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On May 22 2014 15:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 15:53 Steveling wrote:
Alright then.
But then what should I do if someone is talking shit? Let them. Who gives a fuck it's online mafia. If they're making rational arguments and you're town then you should be able to refute them, if you're scum well good luck, sometimes you argue your way out sometimes you don't. But if the person coming after you sounds like a madman then nobody will listen and everyone will probably think that person is scummy. But if you think the person is a madman and everyone else is agreeing with them I'll give you a hint, it's probably not them it's you.
Alright, thanks for the advice.
Why can't more veterans be like you or palmar?
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On May 22 2014 15:56 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 15:01 geript wrote:On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.
I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.
Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.
I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town. Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time. If by all the time, you mean his one game as town... On May 22 2014 08:07 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:04 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.
I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.
Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.
I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town. Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time. Before we start arguing, I want to know what "genuine" is. Genuine can be many things. What's "townie" about his filter is that he's constantly posting without thinking, getting into many fights, and is generally wearing his emotions on his sleeve. Contrast this with normal mafia instincts to hide, avoid conflict, etc. Also, look at his past games and compare them to this one. If you haven't done that, then your analysis is meaningless. I have. I pointed out that he's gotten in shit fights as scum before. As a matter of fact, as town, he got in far less shitfights AND his posting was far more full of actual content. On May 22 2014 08:18 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:12 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:07 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:04 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.
I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.
Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.
I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town. Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time. Before we start arguing, I want to know what "genuine" is. Genuine can be many things. What's "townie" about his filter is that he's constantly posting without thinking, getting into many fights, and is generally wearing his emotions on his sleeve. Contrast this with normal mafia instincts to hide, avoid conflict, etc. Also, look at his past games and compare them to this one. If you haven't done that, then your analysis is meaningless. I've played with him before. He is doing the exact same thing he was doing in Cell, making people feel smart and getting people to ignore him. It's spammier than normal, but that's not the issue that I have with him. Like some of the players right now are just calling it boring (Koshi) without trying to see if it's legitimately true or not. Why is this not an issue for you? Nothing in this post describes why Steveling is scum. You compare his play in Cell to his play here, but they look very different at first glance to me. He is definetely active in Cell, but seems a lot more calm. Compared to this game, he's picking fights and is generally an attention-whore. He was pretty whorish too. Plus for getting in as many fights as he's had, in all of those, he's been the calm one in them. He's the one who cares about whether or not he gets in trouble for it. On May 22 2014 08:23 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:20 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:18 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:12 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:07 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:04 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:On May 22 2014 08:00 Cavalinho wrote:
WoS, look into Steveling. HF is town and Hapa is also probably town.
I'm boggled by the fact that marv said having a huge filter is good for town. It's not when there's nothing there but useless garbage that clogs up the thread and doesn't accomplish anything.
Also, who said we should lynch layabout? When you're talking about a guy that gets lynched day 1/2 a lot, maybe, just maybe you should take the quality of their play into consideration. Maybe I'm biased because I got lynched day 1 a lot for stupid reasons, but I still really want to kill Steveling today over anything and everything else for the moment.
I'd be really wary of people who say that just having a big filter is good for town. Steveling would be a terrible lynch. I get that you don't like his play, and his play is very spammy, but it's also very clearly town. Just because his spam is "contentless" doesn't mean it isn't genuine. Look at some of his other games - he plays like that all the time. Before we start arguing, I want to know what "genuine" is. Genuine can be many things. What's "townie" about his filter is that he's constantly posting without thinking, getting into many fights, and is generally wearing his emotions on his sleeve. Contrast this with normal mafia instincts to hide, avoid conflict, etc. Also, look at his past games and compare them to this one. If you haven't done that, then your analysis is meaningless. I've played with him before. He is doing the exact same thing he was doing in Cell, making people feel smart and getting people to ignore him. It's spammier than normal, but that's not the issue that I have with him. Like some of the players right now are just calling it boring (Koshi) without trying to see if it's legitimately true or not. Why is this not an issue for you? Nothing in this post describes why Steveling is scum. You compare his play in Cell to his play here, but they look very different at first glance to me. He is definetely active in Cell, but seems a lot more calm. Compared to this game, he's picking fights and is generally an attention-whore. Then check my filter for the big, red-titled post on why I thought he was scum. But that's the thing - those types of posts you point out "after the spam" really aren't present in Cell Mafia. He just seems as a whole so much more hyper and emotional in this game. Anyway, talk to me about some other people. Layabout, tambo, ritoky, etc. I agree that his play on face value looks different from Cell. But it also looks exceptionally different from Glory Hole. The trends in his play are far more reflective is his Cell game than his Gloryhole game. Like I really don't get how you could meta a player so awfully. Mine explaining why you've protected Scumeling so many times on bad meta? I really don't know how to say it any better than I have: the guy has a fucking 10 page filter in 24 hours. If you think mafia can do that, you're insane. But then again, I really don't feel like arguing any more since... a) There's no way I'm going to convince someone confirmation biased enough to call the guy "scumelling" over and overa gain. b) Steveling isn't getting lynched. My target of choice is. c) The "oats-whisperer" does not get to lecture me on how to interpret meta cases.
You're probably right but to think it's impossible for mafia to do that is silly.
NIGHT LADIES
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On May 22 2014 16:02 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 15:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 22 2014 15:53 Steveling wrote:
Alright then.
But then what should I do if someone is talking shit? Let them. Who gives a fuck it's online mafia. If they're making rational arguments and you're town then you should be able to refute them, if you're scum well good luck, sometimes you argue your way out sometimes you don't. But if the person coming after you sounds like a madman then nobody will listen and everyone will probably think that person is scummy. But if you think the person is a madman and everyone else is agreeing with them I'll give you a hint, it's probably not them it's you. Alright, thanks for the advice. Why can't more veterans be like you or palmar?
PALMAR?
LOL
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On May 22 2014 16:04 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 16:02 Steveling wrote:On May 22 2014 15:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 22 2014 15:53 Steveling wrote:
Alright then.
But then what should I do if someone is talking shit? Let them. Who gives a fuck it's online mafia. If they're making rational arguments and you're town then you should be able to refute them, if you're scum well good luck, sometimes you argue your way out sometimes you don't. But if the person coming after you sounds like a madman then nobody will listen and everyone will probably think that person is scummy. But if you think the person is a madman and everyone else is agreeing with them I'll give you a hint, it's probably not them it's you. Alright, thanks for the advice. Why can't more veterans be like you or palmar? PALMAR? LOL
What he was rly friendly.
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On May 22 2014 16:04 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 16:02 Steveling wrote:On May 22 2014 15:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 22 2014 15:53 Steveling wrote:
Alright then.
But then what should I do if someone is talking shit? Let them. Who gives a fuck it's online mafia. If they're making rational arguments and you're town then you should be able to refute them, if you're scum well good luck, sometimes you argue your way out sometimes you don't. But if the person coming after you sounds like a madman then nobody will listen and everyone will probably think that person is scummy. But if you think the person is a madman and everyone else is agreeing with them I'll give you a hint, it's probably not them it's you. Alright, thanks for the advice. Why can't more veterans be like you or palmar? PALMAR? LOL
I wasn't going to say anything
But yeah
I'm pretty sure Palmar is one of the founders of our current meta which is always oh so civil and lovely.
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midterms tomorrow, so i haven't had time to even read the thread. The last time i looked we where on page 60... lol. Looks like i have a lot of reading to do catch up on later...
i hate to say it, but how much of this is a worthwhile read?
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