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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 15 2014 02:42 GMT
#321
do you want me to ask "what do you mean?" or what?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 15 2014 02:43 GMT
#322
On April 15 2014 11:42 prplhz wrote:
do you want me to ask "what do you mean?" or what?

no, i don't. w/e
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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 15 2014 02:43 GMT
#323
He had information outside of the game, and then spoke outside of the game with someone and told them who to lynch.

Cheating. 100%

He is not in the game. He should not provide reads. He had fucking heaps of additional information revealed due to having obs qt and god knows who else he spoke to.


"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 15 2014 02:45 GMT
#324
If cheating is happening and no one gives a fuck then rayn is right. Mafia on this forum is fucking dead.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-15 02:49:27
April 15 2014 02:48 GMT
#325
Yeah well now you see what's the difference when it has to do with a game you were in...
People don't give a fuck unless they are involved. Ever.

Again DP, it had nothing to do with the result of the game. but fair? yeah.. you see..
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 15 2014 02:48 GMT
#326
On April 15 2014 11:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 11:42 prplhz wrote:
do you want me to ask "what do you mean?" or what?

no, i don't. w/e

seriously all this theatrics shit

i'm not a cheater by any measure. i never talked to anyone outside the game about the game. ever. the closest thing i have been to cheating was asking someone for their alignment after i was dead. i have no idea what your problem with me is. but apparently it doesn't matter because you'd rather act like indignant all the time. you're just as bad as coag sometimes.

i guess we can't have a conversation because you guys keep getting drunk and ragequitting and being theatrical. don't know why people can't just play mafia instead of all this shit all the time.
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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 15 2014 02:49 GMT
#327
On April 15 2014 11:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah well now you see what's the difference when it has to do with a game you were in...


Yeah I agree with you.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 15 2014 02:51 GMT
#328
dunno how you just concluded that no one gives a fuck.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 15 2014 02:51 GMT
#329
On April 15 2014 11:48 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 11:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 15 2014 11:42 prplhz wrote:
do you want me to ask "what do you mean?" or what?

no, i don't. w/e

seriously all this theatrics shit

i'm not a cheater by any measure. i never talked to anyone outside the game about the game. ever. the closest thing i have been to cheating was asking someone for their alignment after i was dead. i have no idea what your problem with me is. but apparently it doesn't matter because you'd rather act like indignant all the time. you're just as bad as coag sometimes.

i guess we can't have a conversation because you guys keep getting drunk and ragequitting and being theatrical. don't know why people can't just play mafia instead of all this shit all the time.

I'm sorry if i came out that way. I have no problem with you.
In fact i think you are one of the most fair people on TL (despite that one game grr.... ^^).
sorry i didn't mean to be a dick to you. maybe i misunderstood.
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
April 15 2014 02:51 GMT
#330
I thought everybody knew that you weren't supposed to discuss games outside of thread. It was definitely a part of the OP at some point in time.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 15 2014 02:52 GMT
#331
yes prplhz, i know, iam a fucking asshole at times.
i try not to, but i am.
I just hate cheaters.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 15 2014 02:53 GMT
#332
On April 15 2014 11:51 prplhz wrote:
dunno how you just concluded that no one gives a fuck.

I did because noone gives a fuck.
rofl ^^
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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-15 02:56:45
April 15 2014 02:53 GMT
#333
DarthPunk, I'd say prphlz =/= all of TL Mafia

I agree, this is cheating, both from Fool and Toad and marv.
Should this go back to the Ban thread? Anyways, I guess bans are in place in this case. More info from every party should be posted in that thread.
Do you have more PMs from marv rayn? From those other games? From that IRC topic you posted it wasn't that clear what marv's intentions were (though it was still cheating)


From what I gather, this is what happened:

Toad & Foo: Either nobody noticed it, or people noticed it and nobody paid attention. Rayn did pay attention, but apparently never said anything until now? If you haven't talked about this before rayn, then your rage at "TL Mafia not caring" is unfounded, in the sense that....well, if the community doesn't know what is happening, then how can they do anything about it? (for instance I didn't play nor read Dr Who 2 so I have no idea what happened there).
Still, the fact that nobody noticed that breach of the rules, not even hosts or co-hosts, does indicate some kind of apathy for that kind of cheating. Either nobody really cared about it since it wasn't that much of a deal (until now), thus they were like "desentisized" to it in a way, or maybe it's like you said, and "some people are beyond the rules". Either way, I don't think it's a 9/11 conspiracy, rather than a general attitude in the community that needs to be addressed and made clear (that it is in fact cheating and such situations should be noticed, notified, and dealt with accordingly)

marv: Did you mention this before at any time as well? Because it seems that you haven't posted the PMs and chat with marv until now. If so, well, you could have posted something before getting all hulk on us
Make a clear statement about exactly what marv posted every time, with a transcript of the PMs. The PMs are important too, because we can't know if marv was the only infractor here, "telling" you who to lynch, or if it was a back and forth like the case with Foo and Toad (in which case you are to blame as well rayn). We need more info, and more chiming in from other people and discuss and shit.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 15 2014 02:56 GMT
#334
I agree with Gonzaw.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
April 15 2014 02:57 GMT
#335
I remember that,

I didn't particularly care because I care little about anything really

I mean come now

I am willing to be viewed as insane and then go play video mafia

u know?

Then I act insane there too

I don't care about much
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 15 2014 02:58 GMT
#336
i have no idea how you guys think i have an original opinion on this. i have clearly said that i don't and that my opinion is based on what i've gathered from past discussions of the same topic on tl mafia. if you guys want a rule which says that you can't talk to anyone outside the game about the game then i'm perfectly fine with that (i don't do that anyway). it just needs to be in the fucking OP before it's a rule, it can't just be some shit you rage about in a thread no one reads.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 15 2014 02:58 GMT
#337
gonzaw i basically stopped playing the "toad&foo" game because it was fucked... Of course one can say it "didn't matter" or what the fuck ever, but it was fucked 100%, immediately. For me. You don't discuss reads with people outside the game, period.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-15 03:00:35
April 15 2014 02:59 GMT
#338
wtf back and forth? rofl

EDIT: omfg whatever roflm, dsahnm
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
April 15 2014 03:01 GMT
#339
The thing is that Toad obviously didn't think that he was breaking the rules because he openly posted in thread that he discussed with Foolishness, while I'm sure Marv did know that he's not supposed to tell people who to lynch when he's not playing.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 15 2014 03:04 GMT
#340
Rayn I think I disagree with you but I'd like to get a better sense of what you're saying.

If Toad was scum and was lying about what Foolishness said on hopeless, would you still have a problem with it?

What if Toad linked a post from a game on another forum where hopeless played; in that post, the writer has detailed analysis on Hopeless which, applied to this game, makes a strong case for Hopeless as scum?
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