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On January 09 2014 05:31 wherebugsgo wrote:
Rayn your vote is quite wasted atm. I need people to cooperate.
Assuming we leave yamato alive till tomorrow, which in the end is probably not the worst thing in the world if he is indeed scum (but obviously great if he's town) then I would much rather we kill Corazon over cheesecake.
I would not mind killing kush either but that's almost out of spite for him being so utterly bad.
yamato is town and Cheesecake is scum. Cheesecake hasn't contributed anything about anything when anything important has been going on.
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On January 09 2014 05:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In efforts to straighten this thread out from the shitflinging contest that it is: here are reads.
Corazon - Senseless, yelling at people, calling people scum. It's difficult to formulate a decent read on him without factoring in the douchebaggery involved. Do scum act like this often? Or is this something specifically attributed to Corazon? If anyone has a scum corazon game on hand I'd like to see it.
@Cora
I want you to calm down. Give us your top scumreads with 2-3 reasons why for each. Honestly the sense is just strew apart in the thread, maybe it's there if I can get a consolidated post. You've been a bitch to me already for no reason, and I have no problem lynching you. If you're town I want the best reads you can give me.
Yamato - I think he's town. Based on extractor I don't see a reason he cant be town here, and lynching him day 1 is probably a mistake.
JAT - leaning scum. When I was arguing with rayn about the semantic thing (which, by the way, people have to stop saying shit thats confusing) he jumped right on with a few posts to bolster the argument which was clearly false. I also didn't like how he fought with bugs about the kush thing. It also looks like he misinterpreted my-artanis interaction at the beginning of the day which didn't make sense to me.
Rayn - Probably town, though Idk what rayn scum looks like. He tunnels on cora and bullshits at him which is fine (well.. w.e.). I am really hesitant about listening to his reasoning after extractor.
Thrawn - looks town, would bang.
Artanis - Idk where the hell he went after voting me for crap reasons. Tunneled onto me for similarly crap reasons. Would lynch if anyone is down.
So right now I'm looking at JAT/Artanis or a policy of cora/kush.
- Read on yamato is not a read. "I can't see why he can't be town"
- Read on JAT is so bullshit it probably comes out of CC's ears. That's the worst reasoning for a read i have seen in this game because every single thing is so wrong.
- Read on me is not a read. Discrediting me for bullshit reasons, i would have lynched mafia on D2 if idiots didn't hammer yamato.
- Read on thrawn is bullshit.
- Read on Artanis is bullshit because CC did scummy stuff, then Artanis called him out for it. After that CC changed his reasoning to something else, but later on went back to the original reasoning for no reason. It's just so stupid and every other post the reasoning for Artanis being mafia changes from one thing to another.
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I am sorry. I'll start calling things wrong instead of bullshit if it hurts someone.
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On January 09 2014 05:50 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 09 2014 05:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In efforts to straighten this thread out from the shitflinging contest that it is: here are reads.
Corazon - Senseless, yelling at people, calling people scum. It's difficult to formulate a decent read on him without factoring in the douchebaggery involved. Do scum act like this often? Or is this something specifically attributed to Corazon? If anyone has a scum corazon game on hand I'd like to see it.
@Cora
I want you to calm down. Give us your top scumreads with 2-3 reasons why for each. Honestly the sense is just strew apart in the thread, maybe it's there if I can get a consolidated post. You've been a bitch to me already for no reason, and I have no problem lynching you. If you're town I want the best reads you can give me.
Yamato - I think he's town. Based on extractor I don't see a reason he cant be town here, and lynching him day 1 is probably a mistake.
JAT - leaning scum. When I was arguing with rayn about the semantic thing (which, by the way, people have to stop saying shit thats confusing) he jumped right on with a few posts to bolster the argument which was clearly false. I also didn't like how he fought with bugs about the kush thing. It also looks like he misinterpreted my-artanis interaction at the beginning of the day which didn't make sense to me.
Rayn - Probably town, though Idk what rayn scum looks like. He tunnels on cora and bullshits at him which is fine (well.. w.e.). I am really hesitant about listening to his reasoning after extractor.
Thrawn - looks town, would bang.
Artanis - Idk where the hell he went after voting me for crap reasons. Tunneled onto me for similarly crap reasons. Would lynch if anyone is down.
So right now I'm looking at JAT/Artanis or a policy of cora/kush. - Read on yamato is not a read. "I can't see why he can't be town" - Read on JAT is so bullshit it probably comes out of CC's ears. That's the worst reasoning for a read i have seen in this game because every single thing is so wrong. - Read on me is not a read. Discrediting me for bullshit reasons, i would have lynched mafia on D2 if idiots didn't hammer yamato. - Read on thrawn is bullshit. - Read on Artanis is bullshit because CC did scummy stuff, then Artanis called him out for it. After that CC changed his reasoning to something else, but later on went back to the original reasoning for no reason. It's just so stupid and every other post the reasoning for Artanis being mafia changes from one thing to another. Suppose we lynched Cheese. He flips town. What happens then?
What kinda question is this?
Suppose we lynch yamato and he flips town. Can we lynch you next?
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On January 09 2014 05:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
wtf??
That's not how this game works. You can't just fucking lynch someone and then not accept that you messed up.
No bugs, that's not how the game works.
When a townie gets lynched it's their fault, not anyone else's. They were the scummiest person in the game because they had the most votes at the end of the day.
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Anyways dick move analysis says CC is town.
##unvote
I hate when people confirm themselves town this way.
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On January 09 2014 05:57 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 09 2014 05:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
wtf??
That's not how this game works. You can't just fucking lynch someone and then not accept that you messed up. No bugs, that's not how the game works. When a townie gets lynched it's their fault, not anyone else's. They were the scummiest person in the game because they had the most votes at the end of the day. holy fuck I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not this is jubjub level logic. This is how you'll never improve, if every time you lynch a townie you blame the guy for getting lynched instead of asking yourself why your goddamn read was wrong.
I dunno, when i started playing mafia i read Palmar's comment on who to blame when a townie gets mislynched. I have been mislynched exactly 4 times in my ~55 town games, in 3 of them i basically intentionally killed myself because i did not want to play anymore and one time i could not convince the town i was town because someone made a case on me after i lynched mafia on D2 "you must be bussing, so we should kill you and then we should kill the mafia's counter-wagon, obviously you are both bussing, no other option kthxbye". I could not argue against that shitlogic because everyone in town used the same shitlogic. Whose fault? My fault.
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What are you talking about bugs? The case on CC has been literally the FIRST case in this thread. Everyone has just ignored it. what you just said is entirely incorrect.
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Anyways no way in hell am i gonna vote for yamato.
##Vote: Corazon
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Of course you should re-evaluate your reads but if people actually kept things simple as in how every townie should play:
1) establish your innocence
2) try to lynch mafia and only that
town would win every game. When you have a town that works together the town wins. When people are clear in their thoughts and clarify their thought process.
When you have people who only post half-assed comments, people who claim that they will not play, and people who are clearly not reading the thead and refuse to cooperate you already know you are going to lose the game if those people are alive at the end of the game. It doesn't even fucking matter if they are town, because they do not play towards town's win condition regardless of their alignment.
That's why those people get lynched, that's why i get angry, and that's why people hate me, because when i get angry i become mean towards those people - i can't stand people who sign up to games and don't even try to play. If you can post 2 posts / day phase and have time for no more do not fucking use that time to argue about semantics or something irrelevant, read the thread and make one coherent case on your top scumread and try to push it. That's it, even if you are wrong or miss some other stuff or fail to consolidate it shows you have a clear opinion and you stand behind it. If you give 8 half-assed reads which are not even reads or are not explained or that make no sense given what's actually happened in the game you are not trying to get scum lynched, you are trying to do something you can't possibly achieve if you are town. Who cares who is your #4 scumread, who cares if you do not like player X. You are here to lynch mafia and not for telling who is a cool guy and who is not.
And then people say, after doing that, "but i had no time to play". It makes me see red.
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It's clear he's not going to contribute, as he's said nothing of original value despite showing in past games that he has the capability and despite being around practically all the time.
Basically this, and yes, i actually think Corazon is mafia, so i am not policy lynching here.
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On January 09 2014 06:52 justanothertownie wrote:How come? Because you think you would be able to read him?
Yes, and because i am confident i could get him to vote with me even if i could't read him.
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It would also be really nice if the votes were in correct order, as in who voted the first and so on.
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Are people seriously suggesting yamato is mafia?
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Initial impressins post flip are that thrawn and bugs are scum (if both scum have indeed posted). I need to do some research.
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On January 09 2014 15:17 kushm4sta wrote:
why not rayn?
Because that mean ALL scum did on D1 was bussed, and bussed hard. No fucking way.
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I mean you could consider yamato scum on something like D6 is he is alive and has done nothing but right after lynch? Call the ONLY counter-wagon scum? Nah.. no way.
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EPT
