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What's up thrawn:
On January 07 2014 18:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 18:33 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 07 2014 18:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 07 2014 17:59 thrawn2112 wrote: i was hoping that you would tell me why you're scum because i'm too lazy to make the case myself What was your read on me before my answer and why did it change? You're pushing the limit of how much thought you can assume I put into my earlier posts. I mean you said "and there goes my only read" after i gave you an answer to your question. I assume you had some sort of a read on me and i would like to know what that was. Seeing your last post you're gonna get lynched if you do not explain this.
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Okay so this is exactly what scum!thrawn does. ##Vote: thrawn
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On January 08 2014 12:26 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 12:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so this is exactly what scum!thrawn does. ##Vote: thrawn does what? He does something that is not usually considered as alignemnt indicative. When someone looke beyond what he said and thinks why he did that and asks for reasoning behind his actions he refuses to contribute to them.
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Here is the original interaction.
On January 07 2014 17:03 thrawn2112 wrote: rayn if i told you i have a valid reason to believe you're scum, what do you think it is?
On January 07 2014 17:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have no idea.
On January 07 2014 17:11 thrawn2112 wrote: annnnnd now have 0 reads
On January 07 2014 17:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Could you elaborate more on what was that all about?
On January 07 2014 17:59 thrawn2112 wrote: i was hoping that you would tell me why you're scum because i'm too lazy to make the case myself
What does this mean? thrawn must have had a some kind of a read on me. The bolded quote is proof of that. If he claims otherwise he is lying and there is no reason to lie about that as town.
After that i ask thrawn what was his read on me and why i became null after his answer. He refused to answer, he still refuses to answer. There is no reason to refuse to answer unless he has no answers. He does have an answer (of his own thought process) if he is town.
Therefore he is scum, it's the only possibility.
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On January 08 2014 12:46 thrawn2112 wrote: Rayn you are trying to grill me over a "thought process" I can't even remember having nor was I probably aware of it at the time. This can't possibly be true because i asked you about it right after. You did not answer me, instead you went on discussing Artanis.
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On January 08 2014 12:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:What's up thrawn: Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 18:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 07 2014 18:33 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 07 2014 18:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 07 2014 17:59 thrawn2112 wrote: i was hoping that you would tell me why you're scum because i'm too lazy to make the case myself What was your read on me before my answer and why did it change? You're pushing the limit of how much thought you can assume I put into my earlier posts. I mean you said "and there goes my only read" after i gave you an answer to your question. I assume you had some sort of a read on me and i would like to know what that was. Seeing your last post you're gonna get lynched if you do not explain this. Read this, i asked you about your thought process right after the conversation.
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If you lose your train of thousght in ~15 minutes you should not play mafia.
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So did you think i - as scum - would be stupid enough to give away my alignment by being giving you an idiotic answer to a stupid question?
Like, as town, you do stuff that helps you figuring out other people's alignments. Therefore you don't ask questions that can have null-answers, or at least questions where the answer is expected to be null by default.
As scum, you want to look like you are doing that but you actually are not because you don't want to "confirm" townies to you or other townies as in the end that gives yourself away.
To me that looks like you were doing stuff that looks like you were doing stuff but that didn't have any intention behind it, which makes it far more likely to come from mafia.
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On January 08 2014 13:02 WaveofShadow wrote: Rayn why should we vote thrawn over yamato? I dunno if you are reading closely but i think i have explained why i think yamato is town.
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On a sidenote i love bugs, that's exactly how you play mafia and JAT and Corazon are being dumb. That does not mean they are scum though.
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yamato could you please play the game. You're so good as town when you want to participate and i would love some help from you in figuring out this game.
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On January 08 2014 13:10 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 13:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 08 2014 13:02 WaveofShadow wrote: Rayn why should we vote thrawn over yamato? I dunno if you are reading closely but i think i have explained why i think yamato is town. That was yesterday, wasn't it? Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 23:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Not really. ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) He didn't say "hi" to the thread. That's like a scumclaim. j/k, i dunno about JAT. Actually no, i think yamato is town. There is some sort of a process going on in his head on his read on me. When he is scum there is no process, he just posts some stuff and tryhard reads or does not post anything.Dunno about bugs either, have never played with him. I have some super secret scumreads but i am waiting for all people to post. Aside from the tryhard reads part I don't really see anything that doesn't fit with your idea of a scum yamato. Hell even then, can you outline exactly what sort of 'process' yamato has going on? I don't see it. iamp asked me about that earlier and i answered him already. I can't explain it better than i did to him because i don't know exactly what yamato is doing.
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thrawn: Well then you should not post when you are under influence. I stopped posting drunk when i realized that's a fucking terrible idea. yamato even asked you to stop posting last night when you told us you are stoned.
WoS: I try to elaborate as well as i can onto yamato. What yamato does as mafia is two things. He does not play for an all game plan. He plays for (1) survival, usually lurks, and (2) fuels arguments between townies. 1 and 2 are important, usually lurking is something that's not so important as he is able to change that if he wants to. 1) This can be seen in GoT, where i played scum with him. We had a game plan from the beginning but yamato's mindset was pretty much "i won't get lynched on D1". I don't remember he was doing much else than trying to survive D2. 2) This can be seen from 4 Persona, where yamato's pure purpose was to fuel me vs you argument until it ended up in a townie lynch. After that he discredited me for all D2, but when i basically solved the game on N2 he had no other option than to night kill me, even though i lynched a cop on D1 and had a red check on me. That's how "confident" yamato feels his scumplay is.
What he has done in this game is neither of those things.
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Corazon you don't seem to know what OMGUS means because what i am doing is nowhere near OMGUSing. Instead of making crappy arguments could you comment on the case?
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And WBG is one of the most pro-town players atm, yamato is not scummy. If you want to call them scum you need to debunk my arguments on them.
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On January 08 2014 13:29 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 13:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: thrawn: Well then you should not post when you are under influence. I stopped posting drunk when i realized that's a fucking terrible idea. yamato even asked you to stop posting last night when you told us you are stoned.
WoS: I try to elaborate as well as i can onto yamato. What yamato does as mafia is two things. He does not play for an all game plan. He plays for (1) survival, usually lurks, and (2) fuels arguments between townies. 1 and 2 are important, usually lurking is something that's not so important as he is able to change that if he wants to. 1) This can be seen in GoT, where i played scum with him. We had a game plan from the beginning but yamato's mindset was pretty much "i won't get lynched on D1". I don't remember he was doing much else than trying to survive D2. 2) This can be seen from 4 Persona, where yamato's pure purpose was to fuel me vs you argument until it ended up in a townie lynch. After that he discredited me for all D2, but when i basically solved the game on N2 he had no other option than to night kill me, even though i lynched a cop on D1 and had a red check on me. That's how "confident" yamato feels his scumplay is.
What he has done in this game is neither of those things. Would you not consider his last couple of posts 'confident' in him not getting lynched today? I dunno Rayn it's like I said to WBG, I am not particularly good at meta, and I very rarely see it getting used well so I can't really take reads solely based on meta into account. I see what yamato has done in this game, and it's scummy. It's not scummy, it's "not caring". That's not necessarily scummy, especially for yamato who has been not caring as town many times at the start of the game.
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He promised to start playing.
If he fails to do so, or does scummy stuff when he starts playing, then we can revisit Cora's argument about yamato<->me and re-think "hmm.. maybe yamato could do that as mafia, what was he in fact doing there?". But right now it's not scummy, maybe you can consider it null, but i'd lean town on him for what he has done and what he usually does as scum.
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I am pretty sure Corazon is mafia too.
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It's not a fucking fight. I made a case on thrawn and i want you to comment on it. If you don't, you deserve to get lynched because you (incorrectly) accuse of WBG not playing the game and then you yourself refuse to play the game.
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