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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 08 2014 11:46 GMT
#683
I'm here but still catching up and don't have much time today. Would anyone like to talk?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 08 2014 11:52 GMT
#685
I'm afraid I won't have much time to talk after I've caught up because I need to leave in about half an hour. I'm at Page 32 right now.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 08 2014 12:14 GMT
#689
On January 08 2014 17:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But when i make a case on thrawn, he (cora) does not apparently even read the case (or if he does - he misrepresents it totally - which makes him scum). He calls the case OMGUS and the argument between me and thrawn a "shitstorm which will ruin the town". This is totally not the case.

I like this point.
On January 08 2014 17:51 mkfuba07 wrote:
I was kinda hoping for his response too, but it never came. If he's really a townie who feels like people are misconstruing his play, wouldn't he at least comment on something that's been brought up repeatedly?

I also like this point. Scumpointsᵀᴹ to Cora.

On January 08 2014 16:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
@ yamato (mainly);


Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 13:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 08 2014 13:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
thrawn:
Well then you should not post when you are under influence. I stopped posting drunk when i realized that's a fucking terrible idea. yamato even asked you to stop posting last night when you told us you are stoned.

WoS:
I try to elaborate as well as i can onto yamato. What yamato does as mafia is two things. He does not play for an all game plan. He plays for (1) survival, usually lurks, and (2) fuels arguments between townies. 1 and 2 are important, usually lurking is something that's not so important as he is able to change that if he wants to.
1) This can be seen in GoT, where i played scum with him. We had a game plan from the beginning but yamato's mindset was pretty much "i won't get lynched on D1". I don't remember he was doing much else than trying to survive D2.
2) This can be seen from 4 Persona, where yamato's pure purpose was to fuel me vs you argument until it ended up in a townie lynch. After that he discredited me for all D2, but when i basically solved the game on N2 he had no other option than to night kill me, even though i lynched a cop on D1 and had a red check on me. That's how "confident" yamato feels his scumplay is.

What he has done in this game is neither of those things.

Would you not consider his last couple of posts 'confident' in him not getting lynched today?
I dunno Rayn it's like I said to WBG, I am not particularly good at meta, and I very rarely see it getting used well so I can't really take reads solely based on meta into account. I see what yamato has done in this game, and it's scummy.

I think atm this is the only post/argument that could make WoS scum.

He does not explain how what yamato has done in this game is scummy. Because yamato hasn't done anything besides argued with me up to this point. So where the scumread is based on? Lurker lynch? No, because WoS said yamato is scummy. Meta? No, because WoS said he's not good at meta so he does not use it.

So exactly why is what yamato has done up to this point of the game scummy?

I agree here though I'd need to filter dive WoS again. I'm not sure this is something he'd do as town especially after being so active.

I can't really comment on the Thrawn case because I have no idea what the effects of drugs are as I've never really used them myself. In a vacuum it looks scummy as shit and I haven't really been impressed by the rest of his play.

Dunno when I'll be back, but I'll try to find time before the deadline.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 08 2014 12:22 GMT
#692
On January 08 2014 21:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are still here i would like to hear why you do not find the iamp case worth discussing.

I'm going through breakfast as fast as possible to leave afterwards. Iamps case doesn't really say anything and requires me to filter him again which I don't have time for right now.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 08 2014 12:22 GMT
#693
Also forgot to account for the Scumpointsᵀᴹ on WoS. Only a few though.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 08 2014 12:28 GMT
#695
On January 08 2014 21:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you have now Cora, gumshoe, WoS and Cheesecake as scum.
Which of the names does not belong here and which one is the strongest?

I don't think Gumshoe is scum anymore after how he responded earlier. My strongest read is still my first read, which is why my vote is still on mr. supposedly sexy.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 08 2014 12:31 GMT
#696
Off now, will try to check in later.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 08 2014 16:05 GMT
#760
On January 09 2014 00:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 00:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
Rayn, despite being focused on thrawn you stated you'd rather lynch CC and Cora before WoS (so I'm assuming Yamato comes first)

Why was thrawn not in there?

Because i don't think thrawn is as scummy as WoS, or pretty much falls into the same "wtf category" atm.
I am asking your opinions about thrawn because you have given your opinions on WoS already. I think the CC case is pretty clear and that's Artanis' case, i want him to push it.

Why are you not pushing CC yourself when I've said that I don't have time today? If he's a strong scumspect for you too I don't understand why you aren't pushing him.

To reiterate: CC's stance on me has flipped a bunch of times, and he's been reaching to call me scum wherever possible, even going as far as to call me suspicious for saying that non-alignment indicative things are non-alignment indicative.
On January 08 2014 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
everytime i tried to get the game started he just said "well he could do that as either alignment", basically refusing to conversate and get the game rolling.

Most of his interactions were with me and then after calling me suspicious he concludes
On January 08 2014 03:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 03:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 08 2014 03:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 08 2014 03:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 08 2014 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
everytime i tried to get the game started he just said "well he could do that as either alignment", basically refusing to conversate and get the game rolling.

So you want me to lie and say "yeah it totally indicates person X as alignment Y"? When I think something isn't alignment indicative, I say it isn't alignment indicative. For trying to paint me as scummy in every way you can think of I award you more scumpointsᵀᴹ!
##Vote Mr. Cheesecake


The point is that you didnt care about conversation and talking just said it wasmt alignment indicative and left it at that. didnt seem interested in beginning the game apart from trolling.

If you ask me about a certain thing I answer it. You gave me something and asked if you thought it was alignment indicative, I disagreed. That you're willing to call me scum off it shows to me that you're looking for a target rather than looking for scum.


You aren't thinking about this critically. Its not specifically the answers i dont like. its the fact that you didnt seem interested at all in getting content into the game.

And i never called you scum, somebody is paranoid. I did express the notion to lynch you, maybe that was the kickstart this game needed.

So he's just been bullshitting. This cheesecake is far from sexy enough.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 08 2014 16:07 GMT
#762
I'd be willing to lynch Yamato but I'd rather get CC.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 08 2014 16:09 GMT
#765
On January 09 2014 01:08 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 01:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'd be willing to lynch Yamato but I'd rather get CC.

no we are lynching yamato he is scum for sure

Have you looked at CC?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 08 2014 16:11 GMT
#766
On January 09 2014 01:08 kushm4sta wrote:
sorry but I am not interesting in playing a conversational style of mafia this game. I will not read through your epically long conversations.

anyway yamato is lynch bait these days

Since when have you been against conversational styles of mafia? It seems to be the only way you play mafia. I've never seen you create a case.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 08 2014 16:13 GMT
#769
On January 09 2014 01:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
It's shit like this.
Nobody would ever support a switch to him to punish this kind of play but FUCK

I'm actually pretty sick of it myself and I'd support a switch.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 08 2014 16:15 GMT
#772
On January 09 2014 01:14 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 01:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 09 2014 01:08 kushm4sta wrote:
sorry but I am not interesting in playing a conversational style of mafia this game. I will not read through your epically long conversations.

anyway yamato is lynch bait these days

Since when have you been against conversational styles of mafia? It seems to be the only way you play mafia. I've never seen you create a case.


i have made cases before. I have nothing against the conversational style but IMO you can't expect everyone to read that shit!
Here is how I would like to play this game. I will read a case. Like a long post then I will agree or disagree with it and say why. Is that cool?
And if you think Im mafia you can like throw me a case and I can give you my thoughts and that's how you can know im town.

I strongly disagree. This is how mafia is played. Most games go even slower than this game and if you can't read every post then don't sign up to the game. You're also not making any long posts yourself so you saying other people should do your dirty work for you is ridiculous.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 08 2014 23:28 GMT
#1100
Back, looks like we have a scumclaim.
##unvote
##vote Corazon

Gonna take my time to catch up. Should have something before the next nightpost.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 09 2014 00:17 GMT
#1117
WBG, tell me how me coming back straight before deadline when Cora scumclaimed makes any sense as scum. He literally claimed scum by the time I voted him. How would I gain anything out of it as scum myself?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 09 2014 12:55 GMT
#1299
Our QT features 31 posts of which about 10 are Aquanim. I'm not sure it's worth posting.
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