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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 07 2014 06:44 GMT
#252
On January 07 2014 14:53 thrawn2112 wrote:
I likely wont be sober then either so may as well do it now. My vote's on rayn until I come across a good reason to move it. Do I think he is scum? No. But I don't think he's town either and I'd like to think that I would if he were.

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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 07 2014 06:48 GMT
#255
I'm not voting you.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 07 2014 06:56 GMT
#257
On January 07 2014 15:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No fuck.. Both of you think i am scum (or accuse me..) because you donä't know if i am scum or town?
wtf is that shit logic?

I said I agree that I should know your alignment better by now and pointed out posts where I don't really understand your reasoning. It's worrying, not a declaration of a certain read.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 07 2014 06:56 GMT
#258
On January 07 2014 15:55 Corazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 15:48 yamato77 wrote:
I'm not voting you.

It wouldn't matter because you've already proven that you don't actually mean anything when you vote someone.

shhhhhhhhh
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 07 2014 07:00 GMT
#260
On January 07 2014 15:57 mkfuba07 wrote:
I went to sleep. For countless reasons, my body was weak, and I've got my first day of classes tomorrow(/today) so I'd prefer to be strong! I was actually hoping to still be asleep right now, but my imagination keeps waking me up with stupid additions to a dream I was having. It's actually really frustrating... /rant over

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On January 07 2014 11:22 Corazon wrote:
I'm worried about Iamp. He seems to be attacking everyone nonsenically. Reminds me of scum Xatalos in Titanic II.
He's just trying to throw shit on people and see what sticks.

This post made me lean scum on cora. Not because he says Iamp is being nonsensical (I would have to jump through his filter to come to a conclusion on that), but because he compares Iamp's play in this game to another player's play in a different game. There's no relation between the two aside from the fact that Cora wants to see Iamp as scummy. Like, if his argument is true (iamp is shitflinging), then the conclusion that he is scum follows naturally. The addition of Xatalos's play in another game makes it seem like he subconsciously knows his argument is weak and needs to legitimize it.

The argument can't both follow naturally and also be weak enough for scum Cora to have a pseudo-psychological need to legitimize it.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 07 2014 07:31 GMT
#269
On January 07 2014 16:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 15:56 yamato77 wrote:
On January 07 2014 15:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No fuck.. Both of you think i am scum (or accuse me..) because you donä't know if i am scum or town?
wtf is that shit logic?

I said I agree that I should know your alignment better by now and pointed out posts where I don't really understand your reasoning. It's worrying, not a declaration of a certain read.

I have a town read on gumshoe, i don't see why saying that makes me more likely to be scum.

I asked WoS about his "emotionless opening" because last time i played with him when he was town he raged because he wanted to be mafia, and i wanted to know what's his reasoning for opening the game differently this time.

By saying what i did about thrawn i wanted to make him uncomfortable in case he is scum, and i also promised to have a clear read on him later on on D1 which should help you guys figure out my alignment.

So what's wrong with those things?

This discussion is not meaningful.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 07 2014 07:37 GMT
#271
On January 07 2014 16:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 16:31 yamato77 wrote:
On January 07 2014 16:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 07 2014 15:56 yamato77 wrote:
On January 07 2014 15:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No fuck.. Both of you think i am scum (or accuse me..) because you donä't know if i am scum or town?
wtf is that shit logic?

I said I agree that I should know your alignment better by now and pointed out posts where I don't really understand your reasoning. It's worrying, not a declaration of a certain read.

I have a town read on gumshoe, i don't see why saying that makes me more likely to be scum.

I asked WoS about his "emotionless opening" because last time i played with him when he was town he raged because he wanted to be mafia, and i wanted to know what's his reasoning for opening the game differently this time.

By saying what i did about thrawn i wanted to make him uncomfortable in case he is scum, and i also promised to have a clear read on him later on on D1 which should help you guys figure out my alignment.

So what's wrong with those things?

This discussion is not meaningful.

It is meaningful to me because you are saying some of my posts worry you and therefore you don't have a town read on me. You are not straight out calling me mafia, but you imply so. When i ask you to clarify you say i posted useless shit and that i am too cavalier. When i ask you how does that make me any alignment you don't have an answer. When i clarify my posts that bothered you you call the conversation meaningless.

What exactly were you trying to achieve with your first post? Because to me it looks like there was no purpose as you think the discussion is meaningless as you just said.

Why are you making useless posts?

Discussing it with you is meaningless past seeing your initial reaction.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 08 2014 04:03 GMT
#543
We're not lynching me.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 08 2014 04:10 GMT
#549
On January 08 2014 13:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On January 08 2014 13:03 yamato77 wrote:
We're not lynching me.

....because.......?

You'll see.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 08 2014 04:12 GMT
#554
On January 08 2014 13:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato could you please play the game. You're so good as town when you want to participate and i would love some help from you in figuring out this game.

I will play tonight.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 08 2014 06:35 GMT
#652
Let's see here:

On January 08 2014 00:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He is trying to figure out my alignment and does not give a shit what everyone (including me) thinks about it.
He is doing stuff his own way, which is not what he does as mafia.


This is accurate.

On January 08 2014 00:46 mkfuba07 wrote:
The weather outside is frightful -_- Just popping in while I have a few minutes before my first class of the quarter :D

yamato: do you still think my argument about cora makes no sense after I elaborated?

rayn: You said my post made perfect sense, but cora isn't on your scumread list. Por que?


Makes sense once you elaborated. As an aside, I do find Cora a somewhat decent lynch target for today given the way he's ridden his "attack" of me as a real contribution to the game. But more on that later when I elaborate on my reads.

On January 08 2014 09:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On January 08 2014 09:27 Corazon wrote:
It's hard to talk to you, WBG. You act like a giant dickwad when some disagrees with you.


No.

I acted like a dickwad to both you and JAT because you're both proving you can't fucking read.

in your case it's probably because you're scum.

Kush deserves mountains of shit for being a completely worthless player.


I do love WBG, I'm pretty confident he's town. He could be tryharding mafia, but there's no point in him getting worked up and putting in so much effort when so many players in this game are not doing so UNLESS he is town.

On January 08 2014 10:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On January 08 2014 10:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:20 Corazon wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:14 iamperfection wrote:
and corzan can you explain how bugs is scum when he decided to go on a huge rant with everyone look at me attitude. Sure seems like to me a non scum thing to do.

It's easy for scum to fake that. His logic was not even good. He started calling me dumb because I asked him to actually contribute when he said he wouldn't until I did. He blatantly admitted to not have read the thread and he decided to attack kush, who at the time had 0 posts, and called him stupid until he did some random 180 and called kush town (while keeping his vote on him). He then OMGUSs me when I call him out for it.

To me, it looks faked and it looks like he just wants to survive.


I'm sorry, what?

Most of this shit is just blatantly wrong or misleading.

On January 08 2014 10:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Bring it, suckas.
JAT:

Until prodded endlessly by WBG, he contributed nothing to the thread besides the nitpicking of other people's posts and reads and providing none of his own. Not a huge fan of his posting thus far---a little too 'fence-sitty' for my liking but whateva.

Iamp can I have a looky at you next?


Yamato, please. I want to hear your thoughts on him.




I'd lynch him atm actually.
##Vote: yamato
I'm used to WAY more effort from him on any given D1 at this point. Too much one-liner, too much shutting down of discussion and negativity---and while he's capable of this as town, he's also capable of better play and I don't mind punishing him. Seriously threatening him is also often a good way to get something good out of him one way or another; see LXIII or LXI for examples. Yamato LOVES being tha D1 lynch.



This is an absolute shit reason for voting for me. He doesn't think I'm mafia (nor will he call me mafia), but he's content voting me, and perhaps even lynching me, as punishment for "poor play". This is the second time he's mentioned this exact reasoning, yet it now comes with a vote attached as other players begin to jump on the wagon. Coincidence?

WoS will join Corazon in an exposition post later on. Also joining them will be the surprise secret guest, whom I will push a lynch on! Because he's mafia!
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 08 2014 06:42 GMT
#654
On January 08 2014 15:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 15:35 yamato77 wrote:
Let's see here:

On January 08 2014 00:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He is trying to figure out my alignment and does not give a shit what everyone (including me) thinks about it.
He is doing stuff his own way, which is not what he does as mafia.


This is accurate.

On January 08 2014 00:46 mkfuba07 wrote:
The weather outside is frightful -_- Just popping in while I have a few minutes before my first class of the quarter :D

yamato: do you still think my argument about cora makes no sense after I elaborated?

rayn: You said my post made perfect sense, but cora isn't on your scumread list. Por que?


Makes sense once you elaborated. As an aside, I do find Cora a somewhat decent lynch target for today given the way he's ridden his "attack" of me as a real contribution to the game. But more on that later when I elaborate on my reads.

On January 08 2014 09:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 08 2014 09:27 Corazon wrote:
It's hard to talk to you, WBG. You act like a giant dickwad when some disagrees with you.


No.

I acted like a dickwad to both you and JAT because you're both proving you can't fucking read.

in your case it's probably because you're scum.

Kush deserves mountains of shit for being a completely worthless player.


I do love WBG, I'm pretty confident he's town. He could be tryharding mafia, but there's no point in him getting worked up and putting in so much effort when so many players in this game are not doing so UNLESS he is town.

On January 08 2014 10:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:20 Corazon wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:14 iamperfection wrote:
and corzan can you explain how bugs is scum when he decided to go on a huge rant with everyone look at me attitude. Sure seems like to me a non scum thing to do.

It's easy for scum to fake that. His logic was not even good. He started calling me dumb because I asked him to actually contribute when he said he wouldn't until I did. He blatantly admitted to not have read the thread and he decided to attack kush, who at the time had 0 posts, and called him stupid until he did some random 180 and called kush town (while keeping his vote on him). He then OMGUSs me when I call him out for it.

To me, it looks faked and it looks like he just wants to survive.


I'm sorry, what?

Most of this shit is just blatantly wrong or misleading.

On January 08 2014 10:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Bring it, suckas.
JAT:

Until prodded endlessly by WBG, he contributed nothing to the thread besides the nitpicking of other people's posts and reads and providing none of his own. Not a huge fan of his posting thus far---a little too 'fence-sitty' for my liking but whateva.

Iamp can I have a looky at you next?


Yamato, please. I want to hear your thoughts on him.




I'd lynch him atm actually.
##Vote: yamato
I'm used to WAY more effort from him on any given D1 at this point. Too much one-liner, too much shutting down of discussion and negativity---and while he's capable of this as town, he's also capable of better play and I don't mind punishing him. Seriously threatening him is also often a good way to get something good out of him one way or another; see LXIII or LXI for examples. Yamato LOVES being tha D1 lynch.



This is an absolute shit reason for voting for me. He doesn't think I'm mafia (nor will he call me mafia), but he's content voting me, and perhaps even lynching me, as punishment for "poor play". This is the second time he's mentioned this exact reasoning, yet it now comes with a vote attached as other players begin to jump on the wagon. Coincidence?

WoS will join Corazon in an exposition post later on. Also joining them will be the surprise secret guest, whom I will push a lynch on! Because he's mafia!

Oh rearry yamato?
Show me who else was on the yamato wagon when I 'jumped on.'

Plenty of people had called me mafia or stated suspicion of me by the time you decided to vote for me.

But still, the main point is just how scummy your reasoning is. You don't even necessarily think, that how i'm playing makes me mafia, you just want to lynch me for it. It sounds like a circular way for a mafia player to justify voting for a player they know is town.

Plus, I'm apparently your only read in this game and the rest of your posts have been extraordinarily useless, as Rayn has been nice enough to point out.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 08 2014 06:51 GMT
#657
On January 08 2014 15:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 15:42 yamato77 wrote:
On January 08 2014 15:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 08 2014 15:35 yamato77 wrote:
Let's see here:

On January 08 2014 00:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He is trying to figure out my alignment and does not give a shit what everyone (including me) thinks about it.
He is doing stuff his own way, which is not what he does as mafia.


This is accurate.

On January 08 2014 00:46 mkfuba07 wrote:
The weather outside is frightful -_- Just popping in while I have a few minutes before my first class of the quarter :D

yamato: do you still think my argument about cora makes no sense after I elaborated?

rayn: You said my post made perfect sense, but cora isn't on your scumread list. Por que?


Makes sense once you elaborated. As an aside, I do find Cora a somewhat decent lynch target for today given the way he's ridden his "attack" of me as a real contribution to the game. But more on that later when I elaborate on my reads.

On January 08 2014 09:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 08 2014 09:27 Corazon wrote:
It's hard to talk to you, WBG. You act like a giant dickwad when some disagrees with you.


No.

I acted like a dickwad to both you and JAT because you're both proving you can't fucking read.

in your case it's probably because you're scum.

Kush deserves mountains of shit for being a completely worthless player.


I do love WBG, I'm pretty confident he's town. He could be tryharding mafia, but there's no point in him getting worked up and putting in so much effort when so many players in this game are not doing so UNLESS he is town.

On January 08 2014 10:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:20 Corazon wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:14 iamperfection wrote:
and corzan can you explain how bugs is scum when he decided to go on a huge rant with everyone look at me attitude. Sure seems like to me a non scum thing to do.

It's easy for scum to fake that. His logic was not even good. He started calling me dumb because I asked him to actually contribute when he said he wouldn't until I did. He blatantly admitted to not have read the thread and he decided to attack kush, who at the time had 0 posts, and called him stupid until he did some random 180 and called kush town (while keeping his vote on him). He then OMGUSs me when I call him out for it.

To me, it looks faked and it looks like he just wants to survive.


I'm sorry, what?

Most of this shit is just blatantly wrong or misleading.

On January 08 2014 10:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Bring it, suckas.
JAT:

Until prodded endlessly by WBG, he contributed nothing to the thread besides the nitpicking of other people's posts and reads and providing none of his own. Not a huge fan of his posting thus far---a little too 'fence-sitty' for my liking but whateva.

Iamp can I have a looky at you next?


Yamato, please. I want to hear your thoughts on him.




I'd lynch him atm actually.
##Vote: yamato
I'm used to WAY more effort from him on any given D1 at this point. Too much one-liner, too much shutting down of discussion and negativity---and while he's capable of this as town, he's also capable of better play and I don't mind punishing him. Seriously threatening him is also often a good way to get something good out of him one way or another; see LXIII or LXI for examples. Yamato LOVES being tha D1 lynch.



This is an absolute shit reason for voting for me. He doesn't think I'm mafia (nor will he call me mafia), but he's content voting me, and perhaps even lynching me, as punishment for "poor play". This is the second time he's mentioned this exact reasoning, yet it now comes with a vote attached as other players begin to jump on the wagon. Coincidence?

WoS will join Corazon in an exposition post later on. Also joining them will be the surprise secret guest, whom I will push a lynch on! Because he's mafia!

Oh rearry yamato?
Show me who else was on the yamato wagon when I 'jumped on.'

Plenty of people had called me mafia or stated suspicion of me by the time you decided to vote for me.

But still, the main point is just how scummy your reasoning is. You don't even necessarily think, that how i'm playing makes me mafia, you just want to lynch me for it. It sounds like a circular way for a mafia player to justify voting for a player they know is town.

Plus, I'm apparently your only read in this game and the rest of your posts have been extraordinarily useless, as Rayn has been nice enough to point out.

My posts have not in any way been extraordinarily useless. I have given reads on multiple people (WBG/fuba/iamp/Cora), commented on cases and done a shit ton more than you have. Don't you DARE lecture me on usefulness just because you've finally decided to show your ass up and actually play the game.
So scumteam is me Cora and surprise guest?
GG guys, we'd better concede, yamato wins.

Patronizing me is useless. You're not going to bait me into arguing with you.

Also, you're repeatedly dodging the fact that you have shit reason for voting me. Good stuff.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 08 2014 07:22 GMT
#661
Let me begin by stating that I intentionally decided to play slowly at the start of this game to let it develop independent of my influence. This also has the added benefit of seeing who would vote for me and WHY they would, as well.

Corazon

On January 07 2014 15:36 Corazon wrote:
Wow Yamato. You are really playing to your scum meta.

First, you post two troll posts and then peace out, only to come back and call Rayn cavalier? That seems really hypocritical to me.

There's nothing I've seen that points to Rayn being scum for me. He's playing exactly like I've seen him do countless times as town.

You, on the other hand, are throwing your vote around without any care. You're projecting your scummy traits onto Rayn, just like you did to me in Red Team's Prize. Who else would want to join me on a Yamato lynch?

##Vote: Yamato


First of all, this is absolutely indicative of Corazon having not even read my posts. I said what I said about Rayn to see both how thrawn and Rayn would react to me pointing out posts of Rayn's that had weak justifications. Thrawn I did not catch with my reaction trap, but Rayn took the time to explain himself further and gave reasons that I find agreeable.

Secondly, I'm using my vote intentionally. I voted thrawn, again, to make him react to me. His vote entrance was not very enlightening, so I decided to make him do stuff. Thrawn is not good at mafia, and forcing him to post is a good way to catch him. It turns out he was just high. I don't have many problems with thrawn at the moment.

Lastly, "projecting" is not a scum heuristic.

- Fight with WBG

Not going to quote any specific posts, but honestly, it seems like Cora is being antagonistic on purpose here, similar to how he was acting towards me. Now, town Corazon is certainly capable of arguing, but it's not as if he picks fights like he's been doing up to this point.

On January 08 2014 13:25 Corazon wrote:
Stop stop stop stop stop Rayn and Thrawn.

Thrawn - lynching Rayn D1 is a bad idea. If Rayn is town, he is going to be a great asset to us going forward. He should be a policy lynch if he lasts longer than N2.

Rayn - you need to stop OMGUSing and overreacting when people vote for you. This debate isn't going to help anyone. This is exactly what derailed the game in BttB.

I'm begging for you to please drop this silly argument and resume it D2 or D3. We don't need this right now. Let's focus on actual scummy people like WBG, Yamato, and the inactives (in my opinion, CC, Yamato, Artanis (to an extent), Kush (to an extent, and mkfuba).


Policy lynch Rayn if he's alive N2? Lawl. This reasoning is always a bad justification for defending someone, and it's laughable that Corazon uses it here.

And the list is too good. Let's talk about inactives, you know, a whole bunch of people I haven't even mentioned?

This seems like an effort from a scum Corazon to look like a "mediator", stopping a fight in an effort to "prevent another BttB". It's all too disingenuous coming from Corazon, who I feel like is usually uncaring about people's opinion of him.




WaveofShadow

On January 08 2014 15:42 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 15:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 08 2014 15:35 yamato77 wrote:
Let's see here:

On January 08 2014 00:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He is trying to figure out my alignment and does not give a shit what everyone (including me) thinks about it.
He is doing stuff his own way, which is not what he does as mafia.


This is accurate.

On January 08 2014 00:46 mkfuba07 wrote:
The weather outside is frightful -_- Just popping in while I have a few minutes before my first class of the quarter :D

yamato: do you still think my argument about cora makes no sense after I elaborated?

rayn: You said my post made perfect sense, but cora isn't on your scumread list. Por que?


Makes sense once you elaborated. As an aside, I do find Cora a somewhat decent lynch target for today given the way he's ridden his "attack" of me as a real contribution to the game. But more on that later when I elaborate on my reads.

On January 08 2014 09:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 08 2014 09:27 Corazon wrote:
It's hard to talk to you, WBG. You act like a giant dickwad when some disagrees with you.


No.

I acted like a dickwad to both you and JAT because you're both proving you can't fucking read.

in your case it's probably because you're scum.

Kush deserves mountains of shit for being a completely worthless player.


I do love WBG, I'm pretty confident he's town. He could be tryharding mafia, but there's no point in him getting worked up and putting in so much effort when so many players in this game are not doing so UNLESS he is town.

On January 08 2014 10:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:20 Corazon wrote:
On January 08 2014 10:14 iamperfection wrote:
and corzan can you explain how bugs is scum when he decided to go on a huge rant with everyone look at me attitude. Sure seems like to me a non scum thing to do.

It's easy for scum to fake that. His logic was not even good. He started calling me dumb because I asked him to actually contribute when he said he wouldn't until I did. He blatantly admitted to not have read the thread and he decided to attack kush, who at the time had 0 posts, and called him stupid until he did some random 180 and called kush town (while keeping his vote on him). He then OMGUSs me when I call him out for it.

To me, it looks faked and it looks like he just wants to survive.


I'm sorry, what?

Most of this shit is just blatantly wrong or misleading.

On January 08 2014 10:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Bring it, suckas.
JAT:

Until prodded endlessly by WBG, he contributed nothing to the thread besides the nitpicking of other people's posts and reads and providing none of his own. Not a huge fan of his posting thus far---a little too 'fence-sitty' for my liking but whateva.

Iamp can I have a looky at you next?


Yamato, please. I want to hear your thoughts on him.




I'd lynch him atm actually.
##Vote: yamato
I'm used to WAY more effort from him on any given D1 at this point. Too much one-liner, too much shutting down of discussion and negativity---and while he's capable of this as town, he's also capable of better play and I don't mind punishing him. Seriously threatening him is also often a good way to get something good out of him one way or another; see LXIII or LXI for examples. Yamato LOVES being tha D1 lynch.



This is an absolute shit reason for voting for me. He doesn't think I'm mafia (nor will he call me mafia), but he's content voting me, and perhaps even lynching me, as punishment for "poor play". This is the second time he's mentioned this exact reasoning, yet it now comes with a vote attached as other players begin to jump on the wagon. Coincidence?

WoS will join Corazon in an exposition post later on. Also joining them will be the surprise secret guest, whom I will push a lynch on! Because he's mafia!

Oh rearry yamato?
Show me who else was on the yamato wagon when I 'jumped on.'

Plenty of people had called me mafia or stated suspicion of me by the time you decided to vote for me.

But still, the main point is just how scummy your reasoning is. You don't even necessarily think, that how i'm playing makes me mafia, you just want to lynch me for it. It sounds like a circular way for a mafia player to justify voting for a player they know is town.

Plus, I'm apparently your only read in this game and the rest of your posts have been extraordinarily useless, as Rayn has been nice enough to point out.


Basically this. If you can't even say you think it makes me mafia, there's no good reason for voting me except if you're mafia.




And for the final scum read...

Drumroll please..

+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
iamperfection!

His entire filter is oneliners except for one random townread of gumshoe. His reasoning is thin, and largely weak. His contribution to the game aside from "kill yamato" is scant. It really looks like he just thinks I'm going to be an easy target.

On January 08 2014 11:35 iamperfection wrote:
wave didnt run away and is at least posting thoughts so lets kill yamato

## Unvote
##vote yamato


In fact, his entire logic here seems to be "WoS is here, so let's kill the guy who isn't" which is ass. His vote hopping looks horrible and this seems like a dumbed-down version of the usual iamperfection town play which is SIMILAR to this, but usually has a clearer, more coherent thought process than "lynch yamato because he's not here".

I'd quote more, but honestly, I think I fairly accurately summed up his filter so far. It's not that difficult to divine that this s just a lazy, scummy iamp looking for an easy lynch.

##Vote: iamperfection
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yamato77
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January 08 2014 07:54 GMT
#666
On January 08 2014 16:35 thrawn2112 wrote:
He wanted to lynch you before WoS became a wagon.

Where in his filter can you not find a coherent thought process?

I don't understand why he switched to WoS, nor do I understand why he switched off. Nor does he seem interested in trying to figure out many people's alignments in this game. Much of his filter, like Cora's, is comprised of "lynch yamato because he's lurking" which is just not good justification.
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yamato77
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January 08 2014 07:59 GMT
#669
On January 08 2014 16:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
@ yamato (mainly);


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On January 08 2014 13:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 08 2014 13:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
thrawn:
Well then you should not post when you are under influence. I stopped posting drunk when i realized that's a fucking terrible idea. yamato even asked you to stop posting last night when you told us you are stoned.

WoS:
I try to elaborate as well as i can onto yamato. What yamato does as mafia is two things. He does not play for an all game plan. He plays for (1) survival, usually lurks, and (2) fuels arguments between townies. 1 and 2 are important, usually lurking is something that's not so important as he is able to change that if he wants to.
1) This can be seen in GoT, where i played scum with him. We had a game plan from the beginning but yamato's mindset was pretty much "i won't get lynched on D1". I don't remember he was doing much else than trying to survive D2.
2) This can be seen from 4 Persona, where yamato's pure purpose was to fuel me vs you argument until it ended up in a townie lynch. After that he discredited me for all D2, but when i basically solved the game on N2 he had no other option than to night kill me, even though i lynched a cop on D1 and had a red check on me. That's how "confident" yamato feels his scumplay is.

What he has done in this game is neither of those things.

Would you not consider his last couple of posts 'confident' in him not getting lynched today?
I dunno Rayn it's like I said to WBG, I am not particularly good at meta, and I very rarely see it getting used well so I can't really take reads solely based on meta into account. I see what yamato has done in this game, and it's scummy.

I think atm this is the only post/argument that could make WoS scum.

He does not explain how what yamato has done in this game is scummy. Because yamato hasn't done anything besides argued with me up to this point. So where the scumread is based on? Lurker lynch? No, because WoS said yamato is scummy. Meta? No, because WoS said he's not good at meta so he does not use it.

So exactly why is what yamato has done up to this point of the game scummy?



I agree with your read on iamp to some extent. Not confident enough to say he is scum but want to see more from him - especially now that you started contributing.

That's a good point against WoS, and many just reinforces my claim that he's mafia having a really hard time talking his way on top my wagon without looking super suspicious doing it.

I do want to see more from iamp, but I'm predicting a future where he comes in and continues to call me mafia, only now it's because of my attack on him. Repeat this for Corazon, neither player does anything else today but try to get me lynched.

I may like WoS as a lynch more now that you bring up that point.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2010
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January 08 2014 08:01 GMT
#670
All this said, I'm pretty sure I'm wrong about at least one read, because I really don't think all three of these players are mafia together. If I had to pick, I feel least confident about Cora because, well, he is really whiney this game and his town play isn't exactly a gold standard of excellence.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 08 2014 08:37 GMT
#676
On January 08 2014 17:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato, on other people:

fuba, bugs, gumshoe town - agree/disagree?
What do you think of thrawn?

Agree mostly on town reads. Gumshoe is the weakest though, he hasn't been around much since the start.

Thrawn is an enigma. He's here, but not posting much. I don't think he's mafia but it's hard to find concrete reasons to call him town.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 08 2014 08:40 GMT
#677
JAT seemed like the unfortunate target of WBG's rage. Don't find him particularly suspicious.

CC/Artanis are question marks. Interaction is odd, but I don't know what to make of it. Haven't paid much attention to it.

Kush - kush.

I think you are town, Rayn.

Am I forgetting anyone?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 08 2014 14:12 GMT
#699
Thing is, I'd rather lynch WoS or iamp than Cora. I'd settle for Cora, but I would rather not. As I said before, there is a decent possibility he's just screwing around a bit much as town.
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