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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-30 19:30:21
December 30 2013 19:29 GMT
#25
/in

10 people? My kind of game

I understand that the posting requirement for this game is more aggressive. I understand that this game is Instant Majority Lynch. I understand that this game does not allow posting at night.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
December 30 2013 19:37 GMT
#27
On December 31 2013 04:32 Blazinghand wrote:
10 people because it's extractor trick! You can get up to 10 drones that way


Shit I haven't played BW in so long. I'm only used to 12/10 now
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
December 30 2013 19:38 GMT
#28
The name makes more sense now too :D
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
December 31 2013 00:28 GMT
#38
Let's have six more cohosts so we can get a cohost to shadow each person
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
December 31 2013 00:29 GMT
#39
On December 31 2013 09:28 Hopeless1der wrote:
Instant majority games demand more cohosts for constant vigilance.


Oh that's actually a really good reason.

NSA Mafia
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
December 31 2013 03:20 GMT
#57
On December 31 2013 11:37 Holyflare wrote:
alright /in if it's friday

[image loading]
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 01 2014 04:16 GMT
#79
On January 01 2014 09:34 Blazinghand wrote:
we have one open slot!

Hope you're not pissed off by this yet...
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 01 2014 05:58 GMT
#81
Well then the pretty colors will cheer him up!
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 02 2014 03:22 GMT
#94
I won't be here at very start, but I'll be around maybe six hours later, coming home from vacation
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 01:06 GMT
#225
You know what I hate? Coming back from a family vacation and finding 112 posts waiting for me.

Anyways, all I found so far is that based on this:

On January 04 2014 08:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay let's get this shit fully going on. Here's something to consider. I am going to die on N1 or N2 at last. If i do not i have somehow failed in this game and played under my standards.

I really do want to lynch mafia on D1, therefore i won't allow people i work well with to discredit me in case they are scum. I am a Parity Cop. My role is useless, for me, as i said before. What i want to is people (especially yamato and thrawn who i know to be strong and work well with if they are town) to work with me without a doubt in their mind about my alignment.

Now let's lynch mafia shall we?

On January 04 2014 08:50 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 08:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay let's get this shit fully going on. Here's something to consider. I am going to die on N1 or N2 at last. If i do not i have somehow failed in this game and played under my standards.

I really do want to lynch mafia on D1, therefore i won't allow people i work well with to discredit me in case they are scum. I am a Parity Cop. My role is useless, for me, as i said before. What i want to is people (especially yamato and thrawn who i know to be strong and work well with if they are town) to work with me without a doubt in their mind about my alignment.

Now let's lynch mafia shall we?

K look there are huge problems with this, I could actually totes lynch you with Yamato on this alone.

If you are actually blue you just gave up that power's usefulness and if you are scum, the real cop can't counterclaim you without outing himself to you.

Most will know this and therefore that it is essentially WIFOM, also I think YOU know better enough to know all that.


On January 04 2014 08:50 gumshoe wrote:
Anyone counter claim? I think the worth of a parity cop in this setup is dubios at best so outing one of 3 cylons right away cylon is def worth a reveal.

Rayn, I think your choice to reveal based off your opinion of your own play was dumb / : theres probs a doc and yet you've cheated us of any info we might get from your role (provided theres an rb) but if theres no counterclaim theres nothing to be done. Even though its possible for their to be no parity cop at all : P

gives me red vibes for both rayn AND gumshoe.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 01:29 GMT
#235
On January 04 2014 10:23 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Lol dat reveal. Slam and rayn are town. Idk about gumshoe still have to read what went on with him and rayn.

sent maf dat quoting the cop claim and nothing else, discrediting both rayn and gumshoe in the process.


I just got here and it's the only thing I'm capable of understanding.

I'll happily lynch either one.

##Vote: gumshoe
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 01:34 GMT
#237
On January 04 2014 10:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
HOORAY WE ARE IN HAMMER RANGE
--CARRY ON--

FTFY
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 01:44 GMT
#249
Needs some soundtrack music

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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 01:56 GMT
#259
On January 04 2014 10:48 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 10:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Needs some soundtrack music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9PCXVZto18


Can you tell me why you want to lynch both rayn and gumshoe? I want to know your reasons for each individually and I want to know if you have reason to think they are scummates.


rayn for claiming (using Alakaslam's argument for my own read), and gumshoe for coming out, right after that, and asking for a counterclaim. If there's a real cop, gumshoe's asking him to show himself (and label himself for targeting). Pretty scummy play. I think both of them are red, but gumshoe is redder.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 01:57 GMT
#260
On January 04 2014 10:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Sent makes no sense right now. He gets scum vibes from both rayn and gumshoe, and is voting gumshoe cus he asked for a counterclaim. mind you this wagon is led by rayn who he thinks is scummy.


Well gumshoe is scummier.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 02:04 GMT
#269
##unvote

Ok let's take a step back, I might have gotten a bit too carried away.

I just skimmed the thread and jumped on the first thing that looked suspicious.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 02:19 GMT
#276
On January 04 2014 11:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 11:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
##unvote

Ok let's take a step back, I might have gotten a bit too carried away.

I just skimmed the thread and jumped on the first thing that looked suspicious.


Lol i think we have an admission of being mafia here.

Who skims the thread and jumps on first thing suspicious? MAFIA


I think I'm going to replace out of the game right here and now just for this post. + Show Spoiler +
Ok no I won't, I've stayed in mafia games through much much worse life situations, I'm not going to voluntarily replace out in a mafia game. Ever.


On January 02 2014 12:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I won't be here at very start, but I'll be around maybe six hours later, coming home from vacation


On January 04 2014 10:06 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
You know what I hate? Coming back from a family vacation and finding 112 posts waiting for me.


I think I made my reasoning behind jumping into the thread pretty clear.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 02:21 GMT
#279
On January 04 2014 11:20 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hmm. Gumshoe could still be mafia, kinda tunneled on sent there sorry sent.

Usuallly yam is obv town when town so thats something


And usually yam is the one up my ass about this kind of stuff.

Anyways, reads. Coming.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 02:40 GMT
#291
I don't think rayn impulsively voting has anything to do with his alignment. He took his sweet time in LXII when I was scum with him.

I don't like yamato's presence this game. In the one game I remember with him, he made big posts right out of the gate. Big posts to get everything straightened out. As mafia, his big posts come later and carry considerably less clarity. When yamato is town, he's actively trying to straighten out the game so town can see what is going on.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 02:46 GMT
#293
Other than gumshoe's post on yamato I don't like much of his other stuff. He's fluffing his posts to appear bigger than whatever he's contributing. His vote-on-yamato-post included.

Aaand that's all I got.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 02:47 GMT
#294
I think I could go for a gumshoe vote for that purpose.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 03:12 GMT
#305
On January 04 2014 12:10 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 12:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
This is a pointless convo imo.

Im actually liking gum/yam +1 maf

Ok. Why Yam?

For now I'm voting Gumshoe until something comes up. Rayne saying he wanted to hear more from UoN and discussing with Thrawn has given me some pause but I'm not hammering so see vote thread.


I'm guessing my reads were good enough for CC.

Voting gumshoe as well
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 03:17 GMT
#309
On January 04 2014 12:15 thrawn2112 wrote:
see you guys later I got partying to do


dafuq is this

On January 04 2014 12:14 thrawn2112 wrote:
##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel

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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 03:34 GMT
#318
Hammer pls

This time I am sure(r)
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 03:41 GMT
#326
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 03:52 GMT
#333



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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 19:30 GMT
#340
Why shouldn't the vig claim? If they blew their shot, they're essentially a VT now, right?
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 20:10 GMT
#349
I am the vig and I shot thrawn btw
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 20:13 GMT
#352
How so? I asked if vig should claim, Hopeless said "maybe", I decided I'm a VT now anyway so might as well.

I shot thrawn because rayn said to.

On January 04 2014 12:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hammer gumshoe - vig thrawn. Profit for D2!
Good night. <3

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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 20:21 GMT
#356
On January 05 2014 05:15 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 12:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On January 04 2014 12:15 thrawn2112 wrote:
see you guys later I got partying to do


dafuq is this

On January 04 2014 12:14 thrawn2112 wrote:
##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel


This is why sent shot thrawn.

Yeah that too.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 20:25 GMT
#359
On January 05 2014 05:22 Hopeless1der wrote:
we should lynch yamato for the lulz

I'm on board with that because he still hasn't made any attempt to clarify the game.

Subject to change of course.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 20:32 GMT
#361
On January 05 2014 05:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
nah yamato promises solutions, he usually delivers. otherwise we lynch him

That's my plan. As the game is right now, we will lynch him. If he delivers, we will not.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 20:45 GMT
#364
On January 05 2014 05:33 yamato77 wrote:
You would not lynch me before coag or kush in a game like this, don't be silly.

I might.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 05 2014 18:13 GMT
#482
A bit busy today. Swim meet all weekend.

Anyway, the one overarching problem with Kush's reads, is that if everyone is scum (barring yamato because kush "ran out of space"), then it's kush that has the problem, not the targets.

I could see a kush/yam scumteam.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 05 2014 18:59 GMT
#488
On January 06 2014 03:51 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2014 03:39 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 06 2014 02:40 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
If Yamato is red then Hopeless super town and we pretty much win the game.

This is a great reason to plynch Yamato, ASSUMING THAT IS TRUE- can you back your statement up Cheesecake?

However, I will read Yamato for myself now.


a great reason to lynch yamato is some half baked connection theory??? ok..
Sometimes I can't even believe the scummy shit that comes out of people's mouths and no one else notices it.

Yamato said he was busy. He said his activity would pick up soon. Give him time to return and do something for jesus sakes.


We've given him way more than 8 hours

On January 05 2014 05:21 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 04:22 Hopeless1der wrote:
Oh, complete conspiracy theory, mafia shot their own to be able to claim medic and vig for themselves.

this is still a possibility, by the way.

I'll be back later (in about 8 hours). DON'T LYNCH ANYONE WHILE I AM GONE. After my shift today, I am off for two days and can totally devote the time to solving this game for certain.


He promised he would be solving this game by now?
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 05 2014 18:59 GMT
#489
I'd be happy to give him a bit more time but my vote stays on yamato.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 05 2014 19:43 GMT
#491
On January 06 2014 04:35 yamato77 wrote:
I have the time today. Take your votes off me and give me time to work.


No explanation, no unvote.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 06 2014 20:43 GMT
#657
On January 07 2014 03:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I'll let Rayn and Sent decide.


Let's lynch yamato.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 06 2014 20:44 GMT
#658
Oh whoops didn't update the thread for yam's posts. Hold that thought, need to read.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 06 2014 21:11 GMT
#663
On January 07 2014 05:00 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 04:55 yamato77 wrote:
On January 07 2014 04:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 07 2014 04:45 yamato77 wrote:
"Big post meta"

Yeah, that's a good heuristic.

Like I said before, Sentinel is basically only confirmed because I believe CC is town and telling the truth.


You don't think he is mafia yet are casting his argument aside because he is "only confirmed because of this".

No, because the timing of big posts is not any indication of my alignment. It's a terrible heuristic.

its not the timing, its the content. your big posts didnt attempt to solve anything in the game or layout a gameplan for going forward. your list post was a joke. your case on me is of a similar caliber to mine on you, except there is no precedent for why I'm scummy in the context of your case. You list off some marginally scummy things that in the context of day1 are not good enough to tout me as omfg scum must lynch nao.

This. I don't believe I made it clear enough in the original accusation - they were big posts that pretty much told town "here's what we need to focus on", explicitly asked people questions so that they would put out their thoughts for everyone to see, and pretty much removed any confusion by whatever way. That commanding stance is what makes it so scary to play against yam as scum - you have to play by his rules or else he'll put you under heavy pressure.

As evidenced by Hopeless's post as well as the quoted material, yamato's case isn't flawless, it's made while he's under pressure instead of the other way around. The instances he did mention slam are short. Simply, "he's clear", "he's clearer than I've ever seen him play", "I can actually understand him". It's not much. He was pretty coherent in Titanic II as well, less so because he spent the game talking to Chezinu in a QT.

I can understand yam's tunneling of Hopeless because he does that all the time. But faulty logic/reasoning is inexcusable for him.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 06 2014 21:12 GMT
#664
yam why do you not think kush's reads are bullshit?
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January 06 2014 21:17 GMT
#669
On January 07 2014 06:13 yamato77 wrote:
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On January 07 2014 06:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
yam why do you not think kush's reads are bullshit?

Mostly because it looks like there's uncertainty in them, which I think is a townie trait. Too much certainty = scum kush. He might be WRONG, but that doesn't mean that it's BULLSHIT.


Wrong can be scummy too, especially in his big post. I refuse to believe Kush would try to read everyone, label everyone as scum (except for you for the shoddiest reasoning ever, and because he ran out of red labels), and decide to keep that post in there to clog up the thread and influence his subsequent reads.
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#671
On January 07 2014 06:16 kushm4sta wrote:
What reads are bullshit sent? yOu have an example or something?

On January 05 2014 13:18 kushm4sta wrote:
So here are the unknown right now:

alakaslam:
Well his early game is way more try hard than the towngame I just played with him recently.
Then his activity falls off, which is a pretty good scumtell in itself usually, especially when there is no excuse to explain it.
Overall his activity points fits with what I perceive his scumgame to look like.
Then there is this post:
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On January 04 2014 09:10 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 04 2014 09:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
One more post about discussing this without explaining why i am scum and i am policy lynching you Slam.

yeah, this is why I'm lynching you. You are refusing to see what I'm saying. You are scum because you are
1: Blue Hunting
2: Fakeclaiming
3: bullying anyone who opposes you and using it as grounds to mislynch


like wut...blue hunting?! @Alaka I want to know how rayne was blue hunting. Also I have no idea why you would jump to the conclusion that rayne was fakeclaiming, since he gave a decent explanation for why he claimed and claiming as scum would be pretty suicidal.
Scummers love to accuse townies of blue hunting. I feel like i see it all the time.
conclusion: SCUM

~~~~~~

hopeless
His position on gumshoe throughout d1 makes no sense.
First he soft defends him.
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On January 04 2014 09:54 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 04 2014 09:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 04 2014 09:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 04 2014 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am pretty sure gumshoe is mafia. Nothing he says is making sense atm.

no, but you did just claim cop for questionable reasons.

And that has to do with anything how? Are you discrediting me or are you calling me scum or are you agreeing with me?
What exactly are you saying here?

im saying gumshoe not making sense could be because hes confused, not necessarily mafia. You're totes town

To this:
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On January 04 2014 10:17 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 04 2014 10:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If he does not think i am mafia i have no reason to lie about why i claimed in the first place, which i stated was not because of pressure. Either way he is bullshitting.

I'll be honest, I didnt read very closely the first time around. gumshoe is a good lynch. but, BETTER THAN RNG? I DUNNO.

Suddenly Gumshoe is a good lynch for no reason other than he didn't read before. I would expect a townie hopeless to have like a sentence explaining what aspect of the argument convinced him.

Otherwise there has been a total lack of content from hopeless. He's done some mechanics posts and some troll posts, but his scumhunting is practically non existent. I remember his towngame as having a similar length filter but being more focused on logical scumhunting.

Conclusion: SCUM


coag
There is no amount of effort shown this game, which leans scummy to me. It seems like in his town games, he makes an effort to show you he is town. He doesn't do that at all here.
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On January 04 2014 10:53 Coagulation wrote:
guis dont ignore me. say my name.

He loves to do this too scummy to be scum shit as scum.
Conclusion: SCUM

~~~~~~~~

yamato
town. just town. His early suspicion on thrawn doesn't look like a bus. Plus process of elimination (I already have one too many scummers lol)

~~~~~

So one of my scumreads is town. I'm guessing it's either hopeless or coag, because both are pretty unreadable.
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January 06 2014 21:22 GMT
#675
On January 07 2014 06:19 kushm4sta wrote:
yup they are all possible scum lol


So why not go back and check your reads? If you get scum for all of them except for yamato whose "suspicion doesn't look like a bus", why not go back and see what you're doing wrong? Maybe consider the possibility of each one being town and go from there?
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#682
One thing I'm not understanding kush:

On January 05 2014 18:25 kushm4sta wrote:
coag is actually super town for realizing this.
coag:
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alakaslam has been lurker hunting the entire game and thats a red flag. scum like to focus on lurker discussion a lot. gonna fos on slam. likely scum.

this is dead on


Is this your main reason for suspicion on slam?
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January 07 2014 03:05 GMT
#740
Follow rayn. Seeing as he's the last one with an active power (as far as we know), he's probably going to die N2.
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January 07 2014 03:36 GMT
#755
Hammer?

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January 07 2014 04:17 GMT
#777
Just a warning, the weather in my area is expected to jump from -5 to 70 Fahrenheit, about -21 to 21 Celsius, from Tuesday to Friday. I'm probably going to be very sick by the end of the week as a result but I'll do my best to stay on.

Unvoting for now.
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January 07 2014 19:43 GMT
#826
We need five for a hammer. yamato can sleep or do whatever he needs to do, but I'm not going to sit idly by and give scum any more time than I have to.
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January 08 2014 00:53 GMT
#844
I'd just like to say I love the fast updating by BH and the cohosts. You guys are like a manual bot
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#846
rayn/cheese come finish the job
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#854
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#856
                                                                          

                                                                                      

                                                                
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#858
On January 08 2014 12:16 yamato77 wrote:
You're all horrible.

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January 08 2014 20:06 GMT
#937
Wow... entire Day 3 happened while I was away at school.

GG scum. I wouldn't've guessed alakaslam for quite some time, he hid it well. And I guess I'll have to think differently about yamato from now on. At least I was right about kush

Glad I shot thrawn and not yamato D1, although I guess we still would've lost D3 that way.
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January 08 2014 20:09 GMT
#940
Disappointed that I don't see my name very often in scum QT. That's the only reason I play this game
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