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Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
January 25 2014 02:01 GMT
#1561
Also, the meat of your argument seems to be that I lack a 10 page essay on why someone is mafia. I'll tell you right now that you certainly aren't getting one about any player in the game the next few days, and probably not for the entire game. I don't have the time in my life to do such a thing so I can only give you what I got with the time that I have to play this game.

You can take that for what you will, but if you are honestly convinced that I am mafia based on that fact while ignoring the boatload of evidence that I have brought forth and while ignoring that shadier suspects in this game then you are not going to win this game and you will never find mafia.

I'm out for the night because if I see anymore of this I'm just going to be calling people retarded, and that's not what this thread needs. I've laid out the information, I suggest you reread my posts instead of just cherry picking what is or isn't there. It's clear what happened day 1 and what the mafia were doing, and it's immediately clear who should be pressured and lynched today.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 25 2014 02:03 GMT
#1562
On January 25 2014 11:01 Foolishness wrote:
Also, the meat of your argument seems to be that I lack a 10 page essay on why someone is mafia. I'll tell you right now that you certainly aren't getting one about any player in the game the next few days, and probably not for the entire game. I don't have the time in my life to do such a thing so I can only give you what I got with the time that I have to play this game.


I don't require a 10 page essay. You haven't providing any arguements aside from "this player has a large post full of nothing", "this player isn't confident in his reads", or "this player didn't vote sandroba"
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 25 2014 02:55 GMT
#1563
I finally have time and the thread goes dead.

qq
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 25 2014 03:00 GMT
#1564
Pew pew. Let's chat
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 25 2014 03:02 GMT
#1565
I think you're making too much of the "lynch into these 4." If that was all Foolishness had said, period, then you would be 800% right to call him out on that. It's an 11 man game with 2 dead and everyone knows his own alignment though. To the extent someone thinks, with decent reasoning, that the sandroba lynch was ENTIRELY town, it's a perfectly valid statement. The most helpful? Naw. But I don't think anyone threw out all notes, stopped reading thread, and put those 4 names on a post it note for the next 4 lynches.
Fe fi fo fum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 25 2014 03:02 GMT
#1566
I'm in.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 25 2014 03:04 GMT
#1567
I think you're not making too much of the other stuff. The pushes, the analysis, and the lynch targets are all very very very easy to paint as scummy. I think that's because they are scummy. So I'm fine with that, and it IS difficult to see...continuation on each read. Sandroba is town, but scummy if afk, but then not a great lynch. Prome was scum, scum, scum. HF was scum, then not talked about. Cool. Foolishness gets scum points for that jazz.

The scum points get a + modifier because some of the scum points he's awarded are in relation to an odd read on Sandroba, mafia.

Do you think Foolishness is the BEST lynch for today? Most likely mafia? Or just he's got a good chance of flipping, but probably better prey elsewhere?
Fe fi fo fum.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 25 2014 03:04 GMT
#1568
On January 25 2014 12:02 austinmcc wrote:
I think you're making too much of the "lynch into these 4." If that was all Foolishness had said, period, then you would be 800% right to call him out on that. It's an 11 man game with 2 dead and everyone knows his own alignment though. To the extent someone thinks, with decent reasoning, that the sandroba lynch was ENTIRELY town, it's a perfectly valid statement. The most helpful? Naw. But I don't think anyone threw out all notes, stopped reading thread, and put those 4 names on a post it note for the next 4 lynches.


Are you satisfied with the way he pushed the Prom lynch and his current case against Wave?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 25 2014 03:05 GMT
#1569
Wave! YOU ARE DUCKING A LOT OF THE THINGS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND IT MAKES ME FEEL NOT GOOD ABOUT YOU AND IF YOU HADN'T PUT IN A GOOD BIT OF SENSIBLE POSTING TIME TODAY I WOULD FEEL VERY VERY NOT GOOD ABOUT YOU.

So instead, how happy are you with what kita just posted on Foolishness? We'll just start there. Then you're gonna ask me TWO questions. TWO. I am gonna answer. And you're gonna poke at my answers, or agree, or whatever, and we'll keep going.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 25 2014 03:08 GMT
#1570
Foolishness, if around.

I know you were looking at WoS/VE as likely targets at the start of the phase or during N1. You have moved on now to WoS + (Toad or VE), with a preference towards Toad last time I saw.

What in particular raised your suspicions on toad during today, and why has VE fallen off?
Fe fi fo fum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 25 2014 03:08 GMT
#1571
Remember the last time I ducked your questions? :D
Since there's no one else around no problem.
Be back soon
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 25 2014 03:11 GMT
#1572
On January 25 2014 12:04 austinmcc wrote:
Do you think Foolishness is the BEST lynch for today? Most likely mafia? Or just he's got a good chance of flipping, but probably better prey elsewhere?


I think it's between VE and Foolishness for me. Wave seems like he is putting enough effort into the game to warrant surviving at least one cycle longer than these two. I haven't seen a compelling argument against Toad yet. Holy was scummy null for me, but that was off a limited amount of posts. I'm mostly in wait and see mode on him.

I'm on the fence with VE right now. A lot of the things he is doing I can see from a town or mafia VE. As of right now, Foolishness is the best lynch in my opinion.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 25 2014 03:12 GMT
#1573
What in specific would you like me to answer?
The gonzaq q?
Because I dove through his filter and it honestly looks damn squeaky clean to me.
I would almost be paranoid enough to think 'too squeaky' but with a filter length of his there's no way to fabricate and look that good.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 25 2014 03:14 GMT
#1574
On January 25 2014 12:04 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 12:02 austinmcc wrote:
I think you're making too much of the "lynch into these 4." If that was all Foolishness had said, period, then you would be 800% right to call him out on that. It's an 11 man game with 2 dead and everyone knows his own alignment though. To the extent someone thinks, with decent reasoning, that the sandroba lynch was ENTIRELY town, it's a perfectly valid statement. The most helpful? Naw. But I don't think anyone threw out all notes, stopped reading thread, and put those 4 names on a post it note for the next 4 lynches.


Are you satisfied with the way he pushed the Prom lynch and his current case against Wave?
Somewhat addressed in my followup post above.

I'm conflicted. He has some good points. It's not like WoS is the patron saint of Town in this game.

I dislike...how he has built pressure on wave? He has posted big reads. He has posted sizeable cases. SOME of the fractured nature of his posts on WoS can be explained by ... how he's been juggling a couple different things today, as town OR mafia. Pressure on actions, pressure about votes, hypothetical scumteams, scumhunting, etc.

But overall, the case appears to come down to some flavor of lazy lynch/sheep vote, really really halfhearted attack on two comments WoS made about hapa.

As of the start of N1, he was scummier on VE than WoS. WoS was questionable, and was gonna get looked into.

But overall, I'm NOT happy with the WoS case, no. It's not much, you're correct, there's very little meat as far as "WoS is scum for these reasons" in all the other stuff, and the dropoff in VE is concerning to me. As is just...the nature of the posts in which Foolishness has accused WoS? Disorganized, a point here, a point there. I think that's a crappy reason to shift a read on anyone though, "his case isn't as pretty as I think he normally makes cases."
Fe fi fo fum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 25 2014 03:14 GMT
#1575
On January 25 2014 12:11 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 12:04 austinmcc wrote:
Do you think Foolishness is the BEST lynch for today? Most likely mafia? Or just he's got a good chance of flipping, but probably better prey elsewhere?


I think it's between VE and Foolishness for me. Wave seems like he is putting enough effort into the game to warrant surviving at least one cycle longer than these two. I haven't seen a compelling argument against Toad yet. Holy was scummy null for me, but that was off a limited amount of posts. I'm mostly in wait and see mode on him.

I'm on the fence with VE right now. A lot of the things he is doing I can see from a town or mafia VE. As of right now, Foolishness is the best lynch in my opinion.

You haven't seen anything compelling against toad? What about gonzaw and my prodding of him?

Do you agree with any of toad's case on me? Why or why not?

(Goes for you too austin)
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 25 2014 03:14 GMT
#1576
Where are you on VE, austin?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 25 2014 03:15 GMT
#1577
On January 25 2014 12:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
What in specific would you like me to answer?
The gonzaq q?
Because I dove through his filter and it honestly looks damn squeaky clean to me.
I would almost be paranoid enough to think 'too squeaky' but with a filter length of his there's no way to fabricate and look that good.
On January 25 2014 12:05 austinmcc wrote:
Wave! YOU ARE DUCKING A LOT OF THE THINGS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND IT MAKES ME FEEL NOT GOOD ABOUT YOU AND IF YOU HADN'T PUT IN A GOOD BIT OF SENSIBLE POSTING TIME TODAY I WOULD FEEL VERY VERY NOT GOOD ABOUT YOU.

So instead, how happy are you with what kita just posted on Foolishness? We'll just start there. Then you're gonna ask me TWO questions. TWO. I am gonna answer. And you're gonna poke at my answers, or agree, or whatever, and we'll keep going.


We can start there. The gonzaw question is important to me, and you are really really really resisting and I dislike that but also I don't care that much.
Fe fi fo fum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 25 2014 03:15 GMT
#1578
Kita, for what reasons would YOU think I'm mafia? Because toad's foolishness's reasons have been incredibly weak imo.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 25 2014 03:17 GMT
#1579
On January 25 2014 12:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
Kita, for what reasons would YOU think I'm mafia? Because toad's foolishness's reasons have been incredibly weak imo.


I don't have you in my top 2 at the moment?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 25 2014 03:19 GMT
#1580
On January 25 2014 12:14 kitaman27 wrote:
Where are you on VE, austin?
I think VE, more than anyone else today, has slipped past a lot of attention.

I haven't been able to chat with him. A bunch of his time in thread today was pork chop discussion or discussion of Toad reading HF's filter.

The only recent positive for him is that he spent some time N1/D2 attacking prome. Like, out of any target mafia wants to go after, he takes a guy that comes off looking pretty good after the lynch, RATHER than attacking foolishness when given an opening, rather than attacking you, wos, toad. It's an odd choice.

Otherwise, he has not scumhunted today. PART of that is people shutting down his suspects. PART of that is him scumhunting by presenting teams or relying on votes. Unsure on how to weight those, but, to me, the contributions he has presented today do not make him town.

This is why I want to actually get a chance to speak with him.
Fe fi fo fum.
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