EPTWould you mind us helping us with this Foolishness conundrum we seem to have?
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gonzaw
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Would you mind us helping us with this Foolishness conundrum we seem to have? | ||
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Toadesstern
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On January 24 2014 08:18 gonzaw wrote: Toad, you already caught up with the thread right? Would you mind us helping us with this Foolishness conundrum we seem to have? well I'm missing out on some 10 or so pages inbetween but yeah I guess. I don't really see a conundrum on Foolishness to be honest. I'd rather lynch into one of you five guys than Foolish atm. I really do not think he'd behave the way he did before deadline if he knew Sandro was mafia so either he played withough knowing his alignment or he's just town. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On January 24 2014 08:22 Toadesstern wrote: well I'm missing out on some 10 or so pages inbetween but yeah I guess. I don't really see a conundrum on Foolishness to be honest. I'd rather lynch into one of you five guys than Foolish atm. I really do not think he'd behave the way he did before deadline if he knew Sandro was mafia so either he played withough knowing his alignment or he's just town. ...wat | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
do you see a reason for Foolish to post the way he did when he should have known that Sand is mafia, assuming Foolish is mafia as well? Because I don't see one. Why should he defend Sand despite having him as mafia read earlier like when talking to marv over here: On January 23 2014 06:59 Foolishness wrote: Yes Yes As I said, my posts always accomplish something (besides the one I posted before this cause you guys frustrate me to no end). You want to run wild theories that's fine by me, but I'm pretty sure you find less mafia than I do. Yes, HolyFlare lynch is good. There's no reason to do that despite actually thinking that the Prom lynch is tons better. Sounds very much like a (little bit) paranoid guy who's trying to get the best possible lynch he's seeing. Take into consideration that people were voting him as well and I see no reason for him to ever post like this. | ||
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gonzaw
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Toadesstern
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On January 24 2014 08:45 Toadesstern wrote: do you see a reason for Foolish to post the way he did when he should have known that Sand is mafia, assuming Foolish is mafia as well? Because I don't see one. Why should he defend Sand despite having him as mafia read earlier like when talking to marv over here: There's no reason to do that despite actually thinking that the Prom lynch is tons better. Sounds very much like a (little bit) paranoid guy who's trying to get the best possible lynch he's seeing. Take into consideration that people were voting him as well and I see no reason for him to ever post like this if he's mafia | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 24 2014 08:46 gonzaw wrote: You said you'd prefer lynching "you five guys". Who are these five guys, and why did you say "you"? the people who voted Sandro were five people weren't they? | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [this] + Sandroba (5): gonzaw, austinmcc, marvellosity, I just still got you in my had as those 5 who voted sand. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
And doesn't make much sense, you prefer lynching any of the guys leading a last minute unexpected lynch on scum, rather than Foo? | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 24 2014 08:50 gonzaw wrote: ...but Hapa is confirmed dead town. Do you want to lynch him? And doesn't make much sense, you prefer lynching any of the guys leading a last minute unexpected lynch on scum, rather than Foo? the first is adressed above. The second, yeah both seems incredibly unlikely and I'm betting on 2 mafias being within WoS/VE/Kita but if that's not the case, yeah I'd actually rather start looking into one of those 4, starting with prom, marv and austin before considering foolish. | ||
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marvellosity
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marvellosity
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On January 24 2014 07:46 Promethelax wrote: I think terrible posts followed by good posts is a townie thing from foolish more than a scummy thing. No lie his early posting looked horrible and even worse with a Sand flip but he knows that and looks at the thread and figures he can push through on logic and big posts? I see a scum foolish just lurking himself to death there. It would be a depressing place to be as a scummer. It is one reason I like VE (okay, the only reason I like VE) he has been in the thread and actively talking with us all even if his discussion hasn't been all that productive I see him being more depressed if he is scum. Not that that is a solid reason for a read but it is something I've been keeping in mind. No, this is an error in thought, and one which I made for a couple of cycles quite grievously in the Champions game. Foolish was under the kosh for a long time at the start but consistently made long, effortful posts, and I spoke to him afterwards and it went something along the lines of "well it was a champions game, i had to try" I hard defended him for something like 2 cycles that game and ironically only became suspicious of him after he claimed cop and we lynched his redcheck... why? because the targets he was pushing (and not pushing) were increasingly not making sense. Fool almost looks too scummy to be scum for his actions around the lynch, but actually I don't think Fool minds doing that kind of thing as mafia. Anyway all that is preamble, because I think what Foolish has been saying and doing today *has* largely been making sense, in contrast to the champions game. Maybe he's upped his game but at the moment occam = fool is making good posts because he is town after all, despite early wonkyness. Obviously this isn't "confirmed town" but he's way behind several other players. | ||
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marvellosity
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On January 24 2014 07:54 gonzaw wrote: But D2 is VE's trial of fire. If he does indeed not show up at all, or does to speak of bullshit stuff like still going on about his conspiracy theory ignoring everything else, he's a surefire scum lynch. If he comes, calms down, makes some sense....then he's still likely scum lynch, but less so. That's town's call then. Regarding Toad: meh. D2 is his trial of fire as well (trial of...wind?). WoS's "wonky" posts lately seem to weird me out, it's like he's going crazy or something. I cba to reread his filter again, but he's worth pressuring. This is exactly how I see it. At the moment VE's 'ragequit' feels quite artificial as we have literally just lynched mafia day 1 and nothing anyone has been saying was particularly unfair. If he afks/holds on to this rage it's a free lynch I think, if he comes back and plays then we can actually evaluate more. | ||
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marvellosity
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marvellosity
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marvellosity
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On January 24 2014 08:17 gonzaw wrote: Well, maybe it was to instill WIFOM into town. Or maybe I'm just too sexy to die Or maybe my jokes are so funny they can't wait until Postgame to hear more from me if they kill me. Or likely that all my reads are wrong and I'm cluttering shit up I guess (that usually seems to be the main reason in other games). Perhaps I need to do another near-deadline shenannies to get their attention. This must be the answer. There is no other reasonable explanation. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On January 24 2014 08:55 Toadesstern wrote: the first is adressed above. The second, yeah both seems incredibly unlikely and I'm betting on 2 mafias being within WoS/VE/Kita but if that's not the case, yeah I'd actually rather start looking into one of those 4, starting with prom, marv and austin before considering foolish. Are you serious?? | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
do you really need to ask me that? Gonzaw asked that and that was my answer. Apparently I am. I don't consider it a likely scenario at all and don't see a point in talking about it, but yes I am. | ||
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marvellosity
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 24 2014 09:23 marvellosity wrote: How is the guy kinda resisting the scum lynch somehow townier than all the dudes on the scum lynch? Are you insane? I had a townread on him really early on, the rest is adress over clicky! TL;DR: I see no reason for him to be resisting a Sandro lynch as mafia in his position. I do see a reason for him to be resisting a Sandroba lynch as town in his position: Trying to get the best possible lynch he thinks he can get. Sure it could be some super complex strategy into whatever ballsy play but there's no reason to even consider that right now when the simply solution at hand just makes sense and doesn't need your brain to work overtime to somehow make it plausible. I like simple solutions, especially if there's no reason to think otherwise. | ||
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