Okay. Cool.

I've just reread his four bug posts as I didn't give them the time they deserved earlier.

I find myself loving his points on Kita/toad and agreeing with them. The problem is that those are so good that his post on me looks even worse in comparison. It is so off base that my head hurts. The idea that you, as my scum buddy, are the only person to not show up on my list post is...not flattering, fool assumes I'm awful and works his read out from there. But he also assumes that I am good enough as scum to move my vote onto my scum buddy during shennanies, I don't see those two thoughts being congruent.

The second thing that really bothers me in his post is his insistence that WoS is town but if I flip town WoS is scum. He hasn't shown any reason for me/WoS to be opposites and I know I'm an easy mislynch this game given my activity. I feel WoS is also an easy mislynch (obviously assuming he is town) based on player skill. Not saying anything bad about WoS, just commenting on the high level of skill here. If me/WoS are both town we are the best possible mislynches to set up in this town due to our lower level of skill than the remaining players, I find it deeply concerning that fool is so ready to push the low hanging fruit and hang town's chances on those reads being right. This feels scummy to me.

Third: fool ignores his secondary scum read (Marv, I think) to push me and follow me with WoS. He has the second scum 'in the bag' but prefers to lynch me/WoS in order.

I couldn't figure out why a scum fool would 'prove' townkita and towntoad as town but since scumfool needs allies to lynch me/WoS town reading those players does make a certain amount of sense,
Basically fool's three read posts read to me not as authentic reads but instead as an attempt to secure the last two necessary mislynches for a scum victory.

Agree/disagree?

marvellosity

United Kingdom36160 Posts

January 28 2014 11:49 GMT

#2188

Second and third thing go together: if Prome/Wave are (to a degree? it's not 100% obvious) interchangeable, then am I not the constant? Why is he not pushing for my lynch?

Probably because he knows he cannot go 1v1 with me and needs to secure a mislynch on a weaker/easier target (you've been away a butt-ton). We're in a 2 mafia situation, not a 1 mafia, which was running through my head last night - probably Fool just wants to secure one mislynch for whoever his buddy is, rather than going down immediately. In a 1 mafia situation his move would suicidal

The stuff on kita was more compelling than the stuff on Holy/toad. e.g. he picked a bunch of quotes from a scumgame where Holy trolled town because he was bored (Back to the basics) rather than scumgames where he tryharded (LXIII or Hogwarts)

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

January 28 2014 11:58 GMT

#2189

So assuming fool is scum where do you look for the third scum? S d what happened d1that they failed to lynch me over two scum who were up for lynch?

marvellosity

United Kingdom36160 Posts

January 28 2014 12:05 GMT

#2190

Still Toad, mostly by PoE apart from everything else. Will worry about it more after we lynch scum today.

Fun fact: Foolish accuses you of leaving me out of your big reads post like a scummy scummer, and he fails to mention austin once in any of his big posts there. Huh!

D1: that fits if afk-holy is mafia, doesn't it?

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

January 28 2014 12:08 GMT

#2191

I guess it does. Would fool trust toad to be the Lylo player for the team?

You aren't concerned by Austin's general malaise?

marvellosity

United Kingdom36160 Posts

January 28 2014 12:11 GMT

#2192

Slightly concerned, in a way-I-can-leave-until-tomorrow type way.

And i have zero idea who trusts who to be a lylo player, i don't think that really pays to think about.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36160 Posts

January 28 2014 12:12 GMT

#2193

There's probably been a touch too much "theory" in this game, which I guess isn't that surprising given the players playing.

WaveofShadow

Canada31494 Posts

January 28 2014 12:13 GMT

#2194

Phoneposting
Awful lot of assumptions being made on this page

Where does Fool talk about going for me OR marv explicitly?

Foolishness this is why you really needed to show uo yesterday
If you're town and actually put in that effort its a real shame but you don't seem to understand that the way you have been playing this game doesn't quite fit with what town needs from you.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36160 Posts

January 28 2014 12:14 GMT

#2195

I don't really understand your question Wave

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

January 28 2014 12:16 GMT

#2196

So you don't see toad as having his same "+1,I'm part of the team. Ooooh pick me pick me" attitude that comes in his town games when he really wants to be playing four square with the cool kids but isn't quite?

marvellosity

United Kingdom36160 Posts

January 28 2014 12:16 GMT

#2197

or rather who/what you're referring to exactly I guess

marvellosity

United Kingdom36160 Posts

January 28 2014 12:17 GMT

#2198

On January 28 2014 21:16 Promethelax wrote:
So you don't see toad as having his same "+1,I'm part of the team. Ooooh pick me pick me" attitude that comes in his town games when he really wants to be playing four square with the cool kids but isn't quite?

no, not really.

WaveofShadow

Canada31494 Posts

January 28 2014 12:17 GMT

#2199

You guys are assuming that marv is his secomndary and I am his (tertiary) target when he bever states that anywhere in his recent posts

I wanted to hear that stuff from him to try and get a read rather than have people put words in his mouth---now he may get all defensive about it which might convolute a read

Not that I have time to read much today really