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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2014 20:35 GMT
#722
On January 05 2014 05:31 Koshi wrote:
Pretty sure it is in my filter.

pretty sure you scum
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2014 20:44 GMT
#725
srsly how do you conclude i was the scummer from my mission?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2014 20:55 GMT
#728
On January 05 2014 05:51 Koshi wrote:
If you can't find the why in my filter, you are bad. plain and simple.

No koshi. You lied. You are scum, THAT is plain and simple.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2014 20:56 GMT
#729
seriously though koshi, since we obviously cant find it. show us where your reasoning is.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2014 21:18 GMT
#731
**THIS IS A QUOTE FROM KOSHI, ITALICS ARE ME, RED ARE THINGS I FIND SCUMMY**


On January 03 2014 22:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi:
1) What do you think of my case on Adam/Coag?
2) If there was a team suggested that consists of VE's earlier team + rayn, what would you vote? If "nay", why?

1) I had Adam as scum yesterday because how he downvoted his own team. But now I am not sure anymore. Your case is correct but I think we need to put some thought into the fact that eventually Adam made the right call to Nay the team because 1 of Hopeless/rayn is scum, I don't know if Adam did it because he is also scum or that he had the correct gutread.
So is Adam scum or not? Clearly koshi knows Adam is scum and is beating around the bush to make filter noise
However, I think that if Adam is scum with either Hopeless/rayn he would yay the team. There are still a lot of plays you can do when you bring 2 scummers. 1 could play weak and the other could get towncred because there is a confirmed scummer on the trip. Or you could not sabotage the mission and you suddenly got 2 scummers with a lot of towncred for mission 2/3.
I am not really convinced by Adam scum atm but I wouldn't take him on next mission.

Hopeless I got as 100% scum atm. Last team he suggested he "tries" to nail the 4 town that were left out of Mission 1. While he is screaming he got me pinned as scum. silly guy.
So then...if I am "trying" what does that mean? I know who the 4 town are? Or is there a scummer hidden in there. From a town point of view, you think I'm scum, wouldn't you extend that to think I'm trying to protect my team and figure out why?

2) 2 scum left besides Hopeless is quite annoying.
OMG there are 3 spies just like the OP says. I'm so sad, wah wah cry some more
We need to select 4 townies which means that out the remaining 5 there are 2 townies and 3 scummers left.
what what whaaat?

Kinda insane that you need to do that while it is the basic of mafia that mafia is with less because they can work together to influence the thread. The first stage of the game is so important and that is kind of strange because early stage is favorable for scum.

Many words to say that I don't know. There are 0 reasons for me to believe VE is town. While there are 2 at least to think he is scum. 1) His lies around his nayvote. 2) Not being an influence in this game at all.

Cora? I don't know. It was obvious I was going to take Hopeless. If I wasn't so obvious I would say Cora town and a good bet to take. But now? It's all a bit strange. I explained it in a previous post.

But Cora/VE/Hopeless? Then I am stuck with 5 other names that I am not really sure about. rayn town.
(after all that hypothetical rayn/hopeless scum with adam Grack town. CR town. Sentinel town. Coag joker?


If I put myself out of the picture I am left with 5 townies and 3 scummers and I need to find 4 townies out of that. I I would use random.org I would have 5/8*4/7*3/6 = 18% chance to be right (if my math is correct). Knowing that I am mostly way more wrong than randomming I am pretty fucking sad atm.


tldr: mafia depression inc.

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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2014 21:36 GMT
#733
On January 05 2014 06:35 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 06:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Coagulation your vote did not count for some reason.
Are you still going to vote yay on the team and could you elaborate on your reasoning behind your vote?
Koshi why did you say you'll yay-vote and then do the opposite? There is nothing in your filter between saying you'll yay and your vote that suggest you change your mine.

Shenanigans wanted to see what would happen if people thought I would yay-vote. Nothing did as far as I can tell, except 2 people that wanted to see the yay vote on paper.

yeah, because declaring your intentions and then not following through is really scummy.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2014 21:38 GMT
#737
On January 05 2014 06:37 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 06:36 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 05 2014 06:35 Koshi wrote:
On January 05 2014 06:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Coagulation your vote did not count for some reason.
Are you still going to vote yay on the team and could you elaborate on your reasoning behind your vote?
Koshi why did you say you'll yay-vote and then do the opposite? There is nothing in your filter between saying you'll yay and your vote that suggest you change your mine.

Shenanigans wanted to see what would happen if people thought I would yay-vote. Nothing did as far as I can tell, except 2 people that wanted to see the yay vote on paper.

yeah, because declaring your intentions and then not following through is really scummy.

Please explain scummotivation behind saying to yayvote and then don't do it.

You wanted to bait "scum" into some vote they otherwise wouldnt do.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2014 21:39 GMT
#738
You know why i tryhard? Because I'm town you scummy sack of scum!!
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2014 21:49 GMT
#740
On January 05 2014 06:44 Koshi wrote:
You probably aren't because of the shitty way you are coming after me. But it's ok.

1) Show me where I missed the reasoning for why you Nayvoted
2) refute my "shitty" coming after you.

WE ARE ALL WAITING SCUM!KOSHI
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2014 22:26 GMT
#742
KOSHI WHERE'D YOU GO BUDDY? I WANTED TO CHAT WITH YOU AMAGAWD
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2014 22:44 GMT
#744
On January 05 2014 07:34 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 07:09 Corazon wrote:
Koshi, you were doing so well. Are you ever going to care about this game when you are not picking the team?

meh, kinda fucked up atm. I don't really have much to do atm. I could fight to "prove" I am town but with Hopeless being as he is I think game might be over. Or maybe not and then I hope the light will be seen on Mission 5.

Name my scumbuddies now.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2014 23:08 GMT
#745
Koshi its mission 2. Why would the game need to go to mission 5 if the game is over? shouldnt that be mission 4 since each side only needs 3 wins to end the game? Why dont you know these things?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2014 23:47 GMT
#746
I know I did a similar thing with my saying I would refute CR's case on me, but this is slightly different, isnt it? Koshi is making statements that he knows the game is over but hasnt said who is scum. He keeps up the facade that rayn/me are scum in order to implicate adam a la "rayn's case is right but...???" and then gives rayn a townread at the end of things. This presumes his scumteam is hopeless/adam(coag)+1 more but he hasnt stated that when I ask him about it, and he is feigning boredom for the game like it doesnt matter. Except that it does matter. Dudes not town. Where the hell is everyone?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 05 2014 00:02 GMT
#749
I keep handing you points to refute and you completely ignore them, refuse to play and twist the situation to look like I'm just attacking you with bullshit when I am giving you every opportunity to explain yourself. If, after all this, town thinks I'm the spy between us two then whatever, I did what I could I guess.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 05 2014 00:33 GMT
#752
ugh such wifom....fuck it ##yay
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 05 2014 01:37 GMT
#759
rayn get in here and tell us whats up please.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 05 2014 15:07 GMT
#770
thats not true at all rayn. sent only has to have townreads on the team itself to yay it. coag and my yay's can give him reasons to not trust his reads, but if he persists that the team is all-town and one of us is scum trying to blend in it'd be fine.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 05 2014 15:57 GMT
#772
On January 06 2014 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Tell me Hopeless, would you as scum yay-vote an all town team?
If you would, why?

If this team is all town and it goes through town wins the game.

Okay you're probably right....but then, where does that leave your logic that Sentinel is scum for yay-voting?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 05 2014 15:57 GMT
#773
Doesnt that assume the mission is going to fail then? Because otherwise we just won the game.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 05 2014 17:05 GMT
#778
hmm...what has happened to our wonderful hosts?
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