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On January 04 2014 02:18 Corazon wrote:
Look guys, I'm going to make this as simple as possible:
Hopeless is scum because when we had the best team suggested so far of Me/VE/Sentinel, his excuse for saying no was to throw lies against me and twist my words to give him some sort of justification to call me scum and disrupt the team. In my opinion, Hopeless saw that this team was all-town and he needed a decent reason to oppose it.
Now that this team failed, he immediately blamed Koshi without analyzing any of Koshi's posts or anything else. He doesn't even open up the possibility that Rayn could be scum. This would make sense from a scum perspective because if I was in scum Hopeless' position, I would attack the weakest target. It would be hard to fake a case on Rayn because he would tear things apart.
After saying Koshi is scum, he has not said anything to back it up. It's pretty obvious.
And now that the team I was on failed, I've immediately said that the team I downvoted is probably all-town and needs to go today.
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Cora, did I say I flipped a coin or something? You've assumed I didn't read koshi's filter (I did). You never asked for reasoning, you just jumped the gun and said I'm full of shit at every turn.
I thought koshi was town, so I voted yes on the team. Then it failed. Ergo Rayn or Koshi (yes, or me, kthx) is scum. Rayn is not scum because have you read his filter recently? If thats scum rayn I don't want to win this game, he's fucking earned it. Ergo Koshi is scum.
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Cora when this game is over you need to take a long hard look at how a town person is capable of reading you as scum. Your attitude is atrocious and you offer no opportunity for me to improve myself in your eyes. You do not think critically about how OTEHRS view you. I am not you, I don't know you are town but as of now I do believe it. I was not flinging shit. I was identifying qualities I found scummy and relating them to the thread and to you so that people could respond in a rational and direct manner. I'm not making excuses, I'm playing the game, with evolving reads and updated judgements being a part of that.
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On January 04 2014 03:10 Corazon wrote:
You were flinging shit at me! You came up with conclusions that made me look scummy that were far from the truth. Did you read any of my posts that I wrote in response to your accusations?
Not a damn thing I said was false. You can claim misconstrued, misunderstood, difference of opinion etc. You cannot claim false because at the time I posted, I believed my opinion. My accusations were an opinion based on my observations. That is not flinging shit, that is playing the game. I have since changed my mind about you. I dont necessarily need to change your mind about me, but it would certainly make the game easier to win for us.
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On January 04 2014 03:28 Corazon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 03:15 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 04 2014 03:10 Corazon wrote:
You were flinging shit at me! You came up with conclusions that made me look scummy that were far from the truth. Did you read any of my posts that I wrote in response to your accusations? Not a damn thing I said was false. You can claim misconstrued, misunderstood, difference of opinion etc. You cannot claim false because at the time I posted, I believed my opinion. My accusations were an opinion based on my observations. That is not flinging shit, that is playing the game. I have since changed my mind about you. I dont necessarily need to change your mind about me, but it would certainly make the game easier to win for us. No. They were blatant lies aimed to give you an excuse for voting no to a good team.
We'll come back to this post game. You're going to eat your words.
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I can do that:
Cora VE Rayn Sentinel Grack (Hopeless)
Koshi CR Coag
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oh cool me neither. no wait youre still scum. also "GUYS HE TALKS LIKE IM TOWN SUCH SCUMSLIP TROLOL" #scumhunting
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On January 03 2014 20:17 Chairman Ray wrote:
Eh screw it, I'll copy+paste that part over since the discussion is on that point now
All of this. Every single word, in this thread, NOW. Spoiler it all at your discretion.
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Are you going to do it or not?
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So you have your reads, but refuse to post them. However, you were completely comfortable posting a fully written start-middle-end case on why im scum within minutes of pointing out it existed. I think you are lying, that you have nothing to show and your scum pushing an agenda to keep me down. The fact that upon your return you're pulling back from a fullblown hopeless==scum is further support to my read on you.
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rayn, tell me you're certain I'm scum again please.
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Can someone bully CR into posting his "essays" for me? He had no problem spewing bs advice for the spyteam earlier. Why so concerned about this? If his essays are so awesome why is that even a problem for town? We ought to be getting primo levels of wisdom out of him and instead he's clamped himself up in the name of "not help in the scum team". I think he is actively harming town by NOT posting his notes if they exist and I think he is scum if they don't.
The way his case is written there ought to be some pretty good shit in there besides the case on me, but CR doesn't want anyone to have it. Why?
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On January 04 2014 06:22 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 06:09 Hopeless1der wrote:
Can someone bully CR into posting his "essays" for me? He had no problem spewing bs advice for the spyteam earlier. Why so concerned about this? If his essays are so awesome why is that even a problem for town? We ought to be getting primo levels of wisdom out of him and instead he's clamped himself up in the name of "not help in the scum team". I think he is actively harming town by NOT posting his notes if they exist and I think he is scum if they don't.
The way his case is written there ought to be some pretty good shit in there besides the case on me, but CR doesn't want anyone to have it. Why? Earlier you said that you were gonna pick apart my case. Now you're saying that there isn't any good shit in my case on you. We still haven't heard anything on why you disagree with my case, but you are very eager to hear my reads on other people, even though they aren't even complete. Why is this?
Because your other reads dont exist and you are scum stalling and hoping this all goes away
On January 04 2014 06:22 Coagulation wrote:
cause hes im scum
FTFY
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On January 04 2014 06:39 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 06:27 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 04 2014 06:22 Chairman Ray wrote:On January 04 2014 06:09 Hopeless1der wrote:
Can someone bully CR into posting his "essays" for me? He had no problem spewing bs advice for the spyteam earlier. Why so concerned about this? If his essays are so awesome why is that even a problem for town? We ought to be getting primo levels of wisdom out of him and instead he's clamped himself up in the name of "not help in the scum team". I think he is actively harming town by NOT posting his notes if they exist and I think he is scum if they don't.
The way his case is written there ought to be some pretty good shit in there besides the case on me, but CR doesn't want anyone to have it. Why? Earlier you said that you were gonna pick apart my case. Now you're saying that there isn't any good shit in my case on you. We still haven't heard anything on why you disagree with my case, but you are very eager to hear my reads on other people, even though they aren't even complete. Why is this? Because your other reads dont exist and you are scum stalling and hoping this all goes awayOn January 04 2014 06:22 Coagulation wrote:
cause hes im scum FTFY You said twice that you don't agree with my case against you, yet you still haven't posted anything yet. You are doing the exact thing that you are criticizing me for. From what I see, you are the one who's trying to stall. There's evidence pointing to you being scum, yet you choose to divert the attention to anything you can grasp. I already told you that I don't want to post most of it yet because I'm not even finished writing it yet. I gave my case on you and Adam, so your defense is to try to discredit me instead of giving a single piece of evidence that you are town. It doesn't get any more scummier than this.
Nah nah nah, I never claimed to have something already written down. I said I needed to do it next, and still havent. THAT is scummy on my part. I'm stalling on doing something that ultimately is going to be the same whenever I do it because there is no lynch this game and I'm in no rush.
YOU said you had essays written. YOU said you don't want it out in the open. It already exists. Information that town could be using to improve its reads on you and possibly everyone you wrote about. And instead you say its more beneficial to scum than to town. why did you write it then? You don't have to do anymore work than copy-paste-post.
Do you have your notes readily available? WHEN can we expect them to be revealed?
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1. suggests I think you are town
2. suggests I think you are scum
Those options do not depend on MY alignment, they depend on my perception of YOUR alignment. and u scum bro.
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my strongest proof is the non-existence of your other reads. The rest is blatant OMGUS, I know I'm town etc etc
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On January 03 2014 10:36 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I don't feel comfortable sending a team including Grack at this point
On January 03 2014 11:31 Grackaroni wrote:
Why?
On January 03 2014 12:57 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I think you're scum, but it's very hard to organize my thoughts on a phone so I could be wrong. 24 hours from now or so I will have an answer.
Ringing any bells there Grack?
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Koshi why havent you voted Yay?
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