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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 29 2013 02:45 GMT
#253
On December 29 2013 09:20 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 09:14 Adam4167 wrote:
On December 29 2013 09:06 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On December 29 2013 08:46 Adam4167 wrote:
Rayn, don't be thick. I asked the host if my submission of the team counted as a yay from me, he said yes, so there was no reason for me to vote.

When I went to bed there were 3 yes votes and no one was contesting my team, so what was I to discuss? I'm not going to bark at the people that have voted yes, their votes are in, and they've already done their bit. For everyone else, I was waiting for them to bring their objections to the thread to discuss with them. If they had no objections, there was nothing to discuss and they'd vote yes.

The level of resistance this team is facing is what I'd expect from an all town team. I'll almost certainly vote yes, but we've got 4 hours still, may as well use it to discuss.


Why would an all town team have no resistance? Wouldn't it be the other way around, with spies coming in to start something and try and get a different team into play?


There hasn't been no resistance. We have 4 people voting no or declaring they're going to vote no. Thats a team passing by the smallest of margins.

Maybe somebody can fill me in if it is typical for the first mission to be passed on the first attempt? I'm more alarmed that it is actually passing right now than there being some resistance. I already know that 1/2 of those resisters are not nay voting because they know it's an all town team.

Break this down for me Grack. ELI5
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 29 2013 14:05 GMT
#254
wow
such town
many discussion
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



What is the official numbers required for each team and the sabotages required for each mission? It is not in the OP.

Is it this?
On December 25 2013 01:42 FirmTofu wrote:
Thanks for the input everyone. I'll go with 3 4 4 5(2) 5. We can always change this for the next resistance game if it doesn't work out.

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 29 2013 16:29 GMT
#266
On December 24 2013 11:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 10:52 FirmTofu wrote:
2. That is correct, spies cannot communicate with one another at all. (Not even in a quicktopic)


EZ

Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 00:07 prplhz wrote:
On March 07 2012 00:06 Forumite wrote:
On March 06 2012 23:42 prplhz wrote:
i thought it was determined by submission order

It´s determined by breadcrumbing, it can be quite tricky though.

lol no

FROM NOW ON, IN EVERY FUTURE GAME, THE SPY RULE IS THAT THE FIRST ONE ON THE SUBMISSION ORDER DOES THE SABOTAGING

FUTURE SPY TEAMS CAN JUST SEND PEOPLE TO THIS THREAD AND THEY WILL KNOW


Thanks VE
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 29 2013 16:51 GMT
#268
needlessly and senselessly reading the thread
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 29 2013 20:41 GMT
#286
VE, why did you want your team to fail? What did you expect to gain from watching us vote nay?

Koshi who do you plan to send for your team?

Sentinel what "mistake" do you refer to?

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 29 2013 20:42 GMT
#287
On December 30 2013 05:40 Corazon wrote:
Hey hopeless, do you want to tell us why you are voting nay instead of trying to ninja your vote?

I dunno, maybe VE can explain why he puts up a team without putting it out for discussion first. He introduces 3 new players, none of which have been sufficiently scrutinized imo. Sentinel is the one I'm most confident calling town of the 3. You and VE are sketchbags imo(no offense)
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 29 2013 20:48 GMT
#288
btw Cora, stop Ad-Homming on Koshi. Its annoying and is making me not like you for missions and stuff.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 29 2013 20:54 GMT
#292
sorry have to go for a bit I'll try to respond soon
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 29 2013 21:19 GMT
#298
On December 30 2013 05:59 Corazon wrote:
Hopeless, do you think Koshi is town and why

Yes, and I don't remember exactly why. Something about how he's trying to convert mafia knowledge to resistance knowledge and his appealing to veterans to guide the way for us made me think he had an idea of a plan that would push town in the right direction, even if he had nothing to do with finding that right direction.

On December 30 2013 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Since you ninja'd me Hopeless, i see you disagree with me on Cora, so, what exactly is your read on Cora and why?

There were points against koshi about how he wasnt trying to discern alignments. Cora is doing the same thing with Koshi, but worse, he's actively discrediting him. Koshi was assuming I just wouldnt post much and that sending me on a mission was a losing endeavor because even if we succeed you get little benefit from having me "confirmed" since I wouldn't do much with it. Cora is telling people to ignore Koshi because he's trolling too much and wont allow him a word in edgewise.

On December 30 2013 06:10 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 06:05 Koshi wrote:
I said why already. + now there is a scumslip.

I for one remain unconvinced there was any scumslip there.

I think koshi is more likely to be town for thinking its a scumslip though, regardless of if there really is one.





@Rayn's question from list post
Hopeless one question, why did you yay-vote Adam's team as he was null for you?
Probably a similar reason that Koshi was willing to consider Yay'ing VE's team if he commited to a townread on you: It was worth risking a failed mission to "confirm" a spy.

In my case, Adam was a statistical tossup as first leader. I looked at his suggesting-a-team post and thought it was more likely he was town than scum, but in the same breath second guessed myself into calling him null. I think I have a good read on you. If we failed our mission, I'd be convinced Adam was the spy. That information is worth the failed early mission to me.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 29 2013 21:26 GMT
#300
I didn't actually state my read of Cora: I'd call him a spy at the moment.
On December 28 2013 08:38 Corazon wrote:
After looking at Hopeless again, I really do like his posts. His contributions have been very excellent and I don't mind his nomination at all.

I'm also okay with Rayn and Adam as nominations. I want to hear some more questioning and activity from everyone b/c the only scum/spy read I have right now is Koshi.

This felt way too easy of a +1 without any critical thought behind it. I didn't like this post. Combined with associative I think Koshi is town -> Therefore Cora scum.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 29 2013 23:18 GMT
#310
On December 30 2013 06:54 Corazon wrote:
Hopeless, you think Koshi has town, yet you overlook the fact that he has barely contributed to the discussion and has only attacked people for superficial reasons.

Your scum read on me is based on the fact that you think Koshi is town, so your logic is faulty.

Don't say I've only been +1ing people when I've been contributing a lot more to the thread than you.

The OMGUS is strong with this one. I didn't overlook shit with koshi. I have him as town despite his poor reasoning and his superficial attack on me.

My scum read on you is not solely based on koshi association.

I never said you're only +1ing. I said the +1 to me being town was scummy. Get wrecked.

[Hr]

VE you never brought up any reservations on me or rayn regarding why Adams team failed. Nor did you try to gauge reactions to your team before it was LOCKED in for your turn as leader. Very passive play bordering on foolish. Adam nayed himself to allow us more room for discussion. You just narrowed that discussion to your team for no reason almost immediately. That's not cool at all, I think its scummy.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 30 2013 21:02 GMT
#348
Rayn is going on the first mission. Send in the Nay's for the resistance.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 30 2013 22:47 GMT
#351
On December 31 2013 07:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So seriously, where the fuck is everyone?

weekend/holiday get togethers gone awry?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 31 2013 01:38 GMT
#359
On December 31 2013 09:27 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'd rather have a team to go through and then see people's reactions. It'll even generate discussion.



On December 31 2013 10:08 Corazon wrote:
I'd rather just pass this team b/c Koshi is the next pick and I'm automatically vetoing anything with him in it.

Rayn/VE - why haven't you made a decision on the team yet? You two have been the most active this "cycle" and you haven't voted yet, so I'm wondering what you two are waiting for.


The mentality behind these Yay's is so fucking scummy my eyes hurt. VE is leader, his opinion is known. The vote is of little consequence as far as "getting information" until VE decides to tell us hes team was a joke for reasons such as outing the scum team huehue bullshit.

Rayn doesnt want to give spies "the right answer" and is holding his vote accordingly. Good for rayn.

Auto-veto'ing Koshi is just fine. If you can find compelling reasons to consider VE and Sent town, fine, pass it. However, do not pass this team just to spite Koshi. That's hands down the stupidest reason I've seen to vote Yay so far.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 31 2013 01:39 GMT
#360
Also Cora,
On December 31 2013 06:11 Koshi wrote:
Haven't had much time. I shall not pick myself for missions btw. Unless you really want to.
My fav team would be rayn, hopeless and myself.

100% town.

Literacy is a good skill toi have
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 31 2013 02:02 GMT
#362
Cora, stop saying really scummy things and getting upset when I call you out. You LITERALLY said you wanted to vote Yay specifically because you didn't want koshi getting a team through. Other reasoning notwithstanding, that is scummy, especially when the mechanics of the game will guaran-fucking-tee koshi gets his turn.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 31 2013 02:14 GMT
#363
Adam, Grack, Rayn, VE.....Any time now guys.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 31 2013 02:27 GMT
#365
You're trying to push a team through with scummy supportive reasoning. You "have a really good feeling that VE is town". *clap**clap* Very compelling.
"blind trust"

And you've tried to tell me you contributed more to the game than I have? Puh lease.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 31 2013 20:21 GMT
#440
Cora you wanna play mano-y-mano?

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 31 2013 22:00 GMT
#446
So guys...rayn/cora/hopeless

Who needs convincing?
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