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On December 12 2013 21:50 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 21:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 12 2013 21:43 Xatalos wrote:On December 12 2013 21:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 12 2013 21:35 Xatalos wrote:On December 12 2013 21:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Holyflare i have read your post. I think what you are doing is over-analyzing: - Corazon clearly consolidated on a target he thought was scummier - purple clearly consolidated on a target he thought was scummier - LSB too I don't see nothing scummy in those three. - Xatalos consolidated on a target that all his scumreads voted for while defending him over the other target- Artanis threw a lazy ass vote and his reasoning he is giving now doesn't look like it's lining up with his actions (he is saying he had reasons to believe Spag was scum while he had clearly not read the thread (or is lying now) - had he said "i consolidated" it would have been okay, but he is trying to explain his actions to look like something they clearly were not) - Okay i agree, kush's vote is fucking fishy, that i missed. Clear enough HF?  Not really. I did mention that I disliked some of the wagon on Spag and that Spag wasn't my preferred lynch, but he also had an above average chance of flipping scum. While VA was pretty null all around. What. In case i have not misunderstood anything your other scumreads at least at that time were Corazon, Artanis and purple. All of them were voting for Spag, a guy you were not sure is scum. If that's not scummy to vote someone in that situation idk what is. Bussing is always possible, since Spag was gathering votes fast. And I'd rather not lynch someone who I don't find scummy and whose situation I hadn't had the time to fully comprehend (VA). Well why did you not try to get one of your scumreads lynched instead? Like Cora, who was voted by other people aswell. I told you to look elsewhere than Artanis for a moment and you agreed. You did nothing after that. Unfortunately I had an exam after that Artanis debacle and the battery of my phone ran out. So I came home and it was basically Spag vs VA (like 30min to deadline). It would have been unrealistic to bring someone else to the competition (especially since all my townreads were already wanting to Spag). And probably harmful as well (distracting the discussion about Spag/VA). So I went for Spag despite not liking the wagon too much.
Really? Because after this post:
+ Show Spoiler +On December 11 2013 00:02 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 23:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I suggest you both let each other do your own stuff and discuss other things as at least i think your rant is not going anywhere and other people are not feeling strongly in a way or another regarding your cases on each other.
purple, Grackster, Spaghetticus, Cora (when he comes back) -> far more better targets of discussion atm imo. Unfortunately they're all AFK / lurking. I'll need to look through their filters when I get back home though. How would you analyze their play so far? (besides the obvious lackluster LSB-vote with purple)
... i thought you would either:
1) Find a different approach into telling why you think Artanis is scum as noone bought your case
2) try to find a different lynch target
Instead of doing so you sheeped my case on purple and did not try to do (1) or (2). I highly doubt that's a time issue as you have ~50 posts between that post and the lynch.
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On December 12 2013 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 21:50 Xatalos wrote:On December 12 2013 21:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 12 2013 21:43 Xatalos wrote:On December 12 2013 21:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 12 2013 21:35 Xatalos wrote:On December 12 2013 21:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Holyflare i have read your post. I think what you are doing is over-analyzing: - Corazon clearly consolidated on a target he thought was scummier - purple clearly consolidated on a target he thought was scummier - LSB too I don't see nothing scummy in those three. - Xatalos consolidated on a target that all his scumreads voted for while defending him over the other target- Artanis threw a lazy ass vote and his reasoning he is giving now doesn't look like it's lining up with his actions (he is saying he had reasons to believe Spag was scum while he had clearly not read the thread (or is lying now) - had he said "i consolidated" it would have been okay, but he is trying to explain his actions to look like something they clearly were not) - Okay i agree, kush's vote is fucking fishy, that i missed. Clear enough HF? Not really. I did mention that I disliked some of the wagon on Spag and that Spag wasn't my preferred lynch, but he also had an above average chance of flipping scum. While VA was pretty null all around. What. In case i have not misunderstood anything your other scumreads at least at that time were Corazon, Artanis and purple. All of them were voting for Spag, a guy you were not sure is scum. If that's not scummy to vote someone in that situation idk what is. Bussing is always possible, since Spag was gathering votes fast. And I'd rather not lynch someone who I don't find scummy and whose situation I hadn't had the time to fully comprehend (VA). Well why did you not try to get one of your scumreads lynched instead? Like Cora, who was voted by other people aswell. I told you to look elsewhere than Artanis for a moment and you agreed. You did nothing after that. Unfortunately I had an exam after that Artanis debacle and the battery of my phone ran out. So I came home and it was basically Spag vs VA (like 30min to deadline). It would have been unrealistic to bring someone else to the competition (especially since all my townreads were already wanting to Spag). And probably harmful as well (distracting the discussion about Spag/VA). So I went for Spag despite not liking the wagon too much. Really? Because after this post: + Show Spoiler +On December 11 2013 00:02 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 23:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I suggest you both let each other do your own stuff and discuss other things as at least i think your rant is not going anywhere and other people are not feeling strongly in a way or another regarding your cases on each other.
purple, Grackster, Spaghetticus, Cora (when he comes back) -> far more better targets of discussion atm imo. Unfortunately they're all AFK / lurking. I'll need to look through their filters when I get back home though. How would you analyze their play so far? (besides the obvious lackluster LSB-vote with purple) ... i thought you would either: 1) Find a different approach into telling why you think Artanis is scum as noone bought your case 2) try to find a different lynch target Instead of doing so you sheeped my case on purple and did not try to do (1) or (2). I highly doubt that's a time issue as you have ~50 posts between that post and the lynch.
Actually I did convince you and Plutarch that Corazon would be a good lynch for D1, I think. Then I was AFK, came back, catched up, and chose Spag over VA close to the deadline.
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by the way I just want to point out that the game started at page 9 and so cora has based all of his play on 8 pages of information
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On December 12 2013 21:54 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 21:50 Xatalos wrote:On December 12 2013 21:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 12 2013 21:43 Xatalos wrote:On December 12 2013 21:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 12 2013 21:35 Xatalos wrote:On December 12 2013 21:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Holyflare i have read your post. I think what you are doing is over-analyzing: - Corazon clearly consolidated on a target he thought was scummier - purple clearly consolidated on a target he thought was scummier - LSB too I don't see nothing scummy in those three. - Xatalos consolidated on a target that all his scumreads voted for while defending him over the other target- Artanis threw a lazy ass vote and his reasoning he is giving now doesn't look like it's lining up with his actions (he is saying he had reasons to believe Spag was scum while he had clearly not read the thread (or is lying now) - had he said "i consolidated" it would have been okay, but he is trying to explain his actions to look like something they clearly were not) - Okay i agree, kush's vote is fucking fishy, that i missed. Clear enough HF? Not really. I did mention that I disliked some of the wagon on Spag and that Spag wasn't my preferred lynch, but he also had an above average chance of flipping scum. While VA was pretty null all around. What. In case i have not misunderstood anything your other scumreads at least at that time were Corazon, Artanis and purple. All of them were voting for Spag, a guy you were not sure is scum. If that's not scummy to vote someone in that situation idk what is. Bussing is always possible, since Spag was gathering votes fast. And I'd rather not lynch someone who I don't find scummy and whose situation I hadn't had the time to fully comprehend (VA). Well why did you not try to get one of your scumreads lynched instead? Like Cora, who was voted by other people aswell. I told you to look elsewhere than Artanis for a moment and you agreed. You did nothing after that. Unfortunately I had an exam after that Artanis debacle and the battery of my phone ran out. So I came home and it was basically Spag vs VA (like 30min to deadline). It would have been unrealistic to bring someone else to the competition (especially since all my townreads were already wanting to Spag). And probably harmful as well (distracting the discussion about Spag/VA). So I went for Spag despite not liking the wagon too much. When was this artanis debacle exactly? If you had an exam and retuend with 30 mins to lynch then you can't possibly have had time to read up on a spag lynch (who was your town read) and change your mind on him enough to vote him over a NULL read VA.
Spag was no longer a town read when I went AFK. As you should be able to clearly see, I started doubting him when I looked at his lack of scumhunting and large amount of fluff. His posting went worse while I was AFK, too.
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ya guys my vote is totally fishy right?
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On December 12 2013 22:10 kushm4sta wrote:
ya guys my vote is totally fishy right?
Could you maybe explain it?
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Gonna be AFK for some time. I'll be back before deadline though.
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Lol, I expect wake up and expect to see everyone just debating on the who the remaining scum is since Vayne and Coag got straight up caught in a lie. I was even thinking that maybe we'd get shortened days since our next 2 lynches (or 1 lynch/1 vig shot) are already set in stone.
But no one is even discussing it. Vayne is all like: Oh we were just J/King Yo. And everyone just accepts it?
Look @ the posts and tell me that they were just joking. link
I mean, Vayne is under a ton of pressure, He was close to being voted out yesterday. And he thinks it's ok to go along w/ some joke where he claims scum w/ another player who's alignment he can't possibly know?
They obviously made the play w/o realizing that the setup wasn't open. When I call them out on it, 20 minutes go by and they finally post 3 minutes apart. Most likely they were discussing what their course of action was gonna be and I guess they decided to go w/ the claim being true.
Then like and hour goes by and after Plu says he PMed the hosts about the setup, Vayne decides to "come clean".
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Well that's quite a stretch JJD.
Why would someone lie about being a mason in a game where there are no masons?
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It's a running joke from LXIII where grack said he masoned coag and he didn't.
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On December 12 2013 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well that's quite a stretch JJD.
Why would someone lie about being a mason in a game where there are no masons? Well like I said, I don't think they realized it. Not sure what the benefit would be but I've seen alot of pretty terrible fake scum claims for seemingly no benefit.
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On December 12 2013 22:48 Holyflare wrote:
It's a running joke from LXIII where grack said he masoned coag and he didn't.
Well that's something I was unware of. Guess that changes things.
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My original reasoning for Vayne being scum still stands. Coag is OK for now.
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On December 12 2013 21:19 Xatalos wrote:
Wait a second...
Kush actually wanted to lynch VA.
Why the heck did he end up lynching his townread Spag?
This definitely doesn't look good.
Yeah, I already pointed all this out.
+ Show Spoiler +On December 12 2013 06:35 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 06:23 JarJarDrinks wrote:On December 12 2013 03:54 JarJarDrinks wrote:On December 12 2013 03:47 kushm4sta wrote:
##unvote
##vote speghetti On December 12 2013 02:53 kushm4sta wrote:@rayn I'm back to townreading spghetti.That he has one of the longer filters in the game makes him lean town. Also I think it's not so much that he hasn't gotten into this game, but more like he thinks he is so awesome now for getting nk on night 1 that he doesn't even have to try. That is indicated by this quote: This isn't why I've scaled back, but it also doesn't help my motives that I was NKed early that game.
So that's why he is active but sucks hard compared to previous towngames. what happened? Kush, please answer this when you return. Just to add to this. I just reread your filter and I have no idea how you ended up w/ your vote on spag. Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 23:58 kushm4sta wrote:
that case was too fucked up for speghetti to be scum I think Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 00:02 kushm4sta wrote:
I think scum are going to make more obvious cases and attack generalized scumtells, like wishy washiness. Or they would go after players like alakaslam or purple (easy targets). Speghetti's case is just odd and I can't see scum ever making it. Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 01:48 kushm4sta wrote:
rayn i see what you are saying about spaghetti. i think he is just off this game. He already said he's not invested yet. My read is pretty thin so it's more of a hunch.
Anyone read corazon's last post? The ratio of size to content of that post is the highest in the game. Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 02:53 kushm4sta wrote:@rayn I'm back to townreading spghetti. That he has one of the longer filters in the game makes him lean town. Also I think it's not so much that he hasn't gotten into this game, but more like he thinks he is so awesome now for getting nk on night 1 that he doesn't even have to try. That is indicated by this quote: This isn't why I've scaled back, but it also doesn't help my motives that I was NKed early that game.
So that's why he is active but sucks hard compared to previous towngames. Why did you defend him so much and then vote him?
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Holyflare. Stop.
Your thought process is "Corazon is scummy, he has done this and this" instead of "Corazon has done this and this, he is scummy"
You are tunneled and confirmation biased because you are making up shit that supports your feeling that I am scum.
I didn't fake the notes. It takes a long time to make notes like that and I've been busy studying for finals.
Everytime I read one of your conspiracy theories, it makes me want to not play the game and just think about how stupid this game is right now. And every time that happens, I have less and less will to come back to the thread. I didn't care about the D1 lynch. I'll admit it. I'm not invested in this game because of this stupid shit I get tunneled with.
Perhaps it was a scum plan to try and get me to blow up and be a distraction to town? It's a crazy theory but if you are accepting HF's theories as valid than mine isn't out of reason as well.
Back after math final. Mayne
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Quit the game if you don't like pressure, this isn't the game for you.
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It is not a logical town thought process to return to a thread after seeing everything that has been written, comment on none of it BUT the fact that you are being picked on again. If you are town you are playing god awfully with your alotted time. You have "notes" that are pretty much summaries of every post in those 8 pages you read, that is easy to fake, not to mention they are coloured. It's very easy to ctrl+c, ctrl+v notes after all so why the editing?
You based your entire gameplay on 8 pages, have not developed reads over that time and "consolidated" onto spag. I mention many people in my gameplay, not just you but you neglect to see that.
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I'm really resisting the temptation to yell at you right now.
It's not pressure. It's bullshit. You are confirmation biased. How can you not see that?
Why don't you vote for me and end it if you are so sure I am scum?
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Maybe it's because I have to deal with people like you who kill my will of playing with stupid accusations that I get pestered with all game
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