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Why does the vendetta b/w Grack and Spag have to spill into the thread discussion?
BTW Spag, why is it ok to call my answers scummy (I assume because of the defensive nature of the posts) but you don't read the questions?
I'm tired of getting assaulted with illogical and non alignment-indicative questions and I'm tired of getting my words twisted to make me look scummy. Stop it.
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On December 11 2013 04:12 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 03:56 kushm4sta wrote:On December 11 2013 03:53 JarJarDrinks wrote:On December 11 2013 00:31 JarJarDrinks wrote:On December 10 2013 09:42 sidesprang wrote:
And lastly he asked for people to vote for him if they found him scummy, which is very Anti-Town. OK this sentence just reeks of a scum mindset w/ the knowledge that cora is town. Because yes, asking someone to vote for yourself is anti-town when you are actually town. But if you're scum then it's just a kinda dumb, ballsy move. But it isn't anti-town. Any comments on this? @ least would like to hear what people think of sidespring. i think it's equally dumb as either alignment, 100% alignment neutral. What is your point sir? btw voting you now based on on your scummy posting pattern. Also you bring up your shit point and want people to comment on it like its gold.
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##vote jarjar My point was that I wanted to know if anyone had comments on it and I wanted to know people thought of sidespring. Pretty sure that was implied. I'm reading sidespring as scum and would like to know if other people are as well. You think that asking people vote for yourself is alignment nuetral? Great, I agree that a person doing that doesn't help tell you what their alignment is. What I'm saying though is that it's anti-(whatever alignment that person is). So to say it's anti-town seems to imply that the person saying it is town.So before you call my point shit, make sure you understand what I'm saying.
Exactly I currently view everyone as town, people have done scummy things. But no one are scum In my eyes yet, if so I would have voted for em. So why I would phrase that in any other way I really do not know, and tbh you just seem desperate to find something that is not there.
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On December 11 2013 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The problem is he is not really going after me. His posts about me have no other motive than trying to make me angry and therefore play bad. I don't think i am switching my vote off him today.
Please explain how your posts towards me are different in any way aside from asking people to vote me. I really don't like what you have done this game. So far you started the weak purple wagon with shitty reasoning and then started acting obtuse when I tried to talk with you.
Explain to me why your reasoning for Purple being scum does not also apply to LSB? Do any of LSB's interactions seem to be used to figure out others alignments? right now you are just trying to gather support on somebody for being a weak player. (by using it as a justification for purple being scum) That alone makes you either bad or scum.
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On December 11 2013 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 05:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 11 2013 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2013 05:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 11 2013 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The problem is he is not really going after me. His posts about me have no other motive than trying to make me angry and therefore play bad. I don't think i am switching my vote off him today. So you're just going to throw your vote away if he's not a lynch candidate today? Come on man. Talk to me about Spaghetticus. Actually my plan was to convince you guys into voting him but there is still 24h to go on this phase. Spaghetticus looks scummy for being overly defensive when people were just trying to get him into reading the thread and giving out reads. He always found some excuse to comment on something that did not make him go towards telling who is mafia. Can you tell me exactly what you find suspicious of Grack? Is it that he voted you without pressuring you? He hasn't really done anything but this: Show nested quote +The problem is he is not really going after me. His posts about me have no other motive than trying to make me angry and therefore play bad. I don't know what purpose that serves or how he thinks he is helping the town. By telling me i am not allowed to call out people for shitting on other people because i played bad in another game? Why would someone who is town do that?
After checking his filter I can see where you're coming from. I can see a scum grack, but I also know that grack likes to troll. Picking a fight with you early on seems like a terrible idea as scum, but he skated by due to terrible ideas in LXIII too whilst being scum. I wouldn't oppose a Grack lynch at this point but I'm not convinced on it.
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Grack you mentioned a very forced post of Spaghetticus. Would you be happy to lynch him on D1?
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On December 11 2013 05:37 sidesprang wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 04:12 JarJarDrinks wrote:On December 11 2013 03:56 kushm4sta wrote:On December 11 2013 03:53 JarJarDrinks wrote:On December 11 2013 00:31 JarJarDrinks wrote:On December 10 2013 09:42 sidesprang wrote:
And lastly he asked for people to vote for him if they found him scummy, which is very Anti-Town. OK this sentence just reeks of a scum mindset w/ the knowledge that cora is town. Because yes, asking someone to vote for yourself is anti-town when you are actually town. But if you're scum then it's just a kinda dumb, ballsy move. But it isn't anti-town. Any comments on this? @ least would like to hear what people think of sidespring. i think it's equally dumb as either alignment, 100% alignment neutral. What is your point sir? btw voting you now based on on your scummy posting pattern. Also you bring up your shit point and want people to comment on it like its gold.
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##vote jarjar My point was that I wanted to know if anyone had comments on it and I wanted to know people thought of sidespring. Pretty sure that was implied. I'm reading sidespring as scum and would like to know if other people are as well. You think that asking people vote for yourself is alignment nuetral? Great, I agree that a person doing that doesn't help tell you what their alignment is. What I'm saying though is that it's anti-(whatever alignment that person is). So to say it's anti-town seems to imply that the person saying it is town.So before you call my point shit, make sure you understand what I'm saying. Exactly I currently view everyone as town, people have done scummy things. But no one are scum In my eyes yet, if so I would have voted for em. So why I would phrase that in any other way I really do not know, and tbh you just seem desperate to find something that is not there.
This sentence:On December 10 2013 09:42 sidesprang wrote:
And lastly he asked for people to vote for him if they found him scummy, which is very Anti-Town.
Please tell me your reason for stating it. Does cora voting for himself make him more likely to be scum? Cause that's what I assummed you were getting at.
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On December 11 2013 05:33 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 05:29 JarJarDrinks wrote:On December 11 2013 05:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
remember that pandain is in college and probably taking finals right now, so I expect him to be pretty afk regardless of alignment Got any reads? I'd venture to say plutarch is town, that's about it right now. The town is being pulled into too many directions to discern who is scum without some flips.
cool so how many townies need to die before you have reads?
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##vote vayne
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also if thats all the town reads you have right now, you are either not reading or lying
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On December 11 2013 05:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Grack you mentioned a very forced post of Spaghetticus. Would you be happy to lynch him on D1?
He's done nothing so far but pressure lurkers but I don't believe he is the best lynch.
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On December 11 2013 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 03:16 bumatlarge wrote:On December 11 2013 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2013 03:01 bumatlarge wrote:On December 11 2013 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Bumatlarge do you think Pandains posting / lack of posting is the most important thing there is going on in thread? Don't worry, I'm reading your posts  you to are a big question asker, but you seem to do that alot anyway. Put it this way. I'd like to enter Day 2 with everyone here except pandain. I'm not advocating a sort of no-lynch policy, but I don't think we have a good lynch. What is important in this thread at the moment is debatable. I want to keep the accusations streamlined, and I don't want 6 kushmastas giving me their green reads. The pressure levels are sweet. That's probably what's most important. Wait what? We are under 24h into the game and the only thing you want to talk about is someone who has not posted. Do you think people voting for him now does: 1) make him magically come here posting sooner? 2) leave us with more information than pressuring other people even if he does not come back and we lynch him? But he hasss posted. Information is overrated! He will come if we vote him. He is the missing corner piece to a fully fledged town! MEGAZORD ASSEMBLED! Also do you think Pandain as mafia is type of a player that goes inactive for any other than non-game related reasons? If not, why exactly are you trying to shut down discussion? ?!?!?! I don't meta this early. Why would you think that last statement. Am I distracting you? To me it seemed like you wanted to vote for an inactive, encouraged everyone else to vote for an inactive and therefore shut down any productive discussion until Pandain returns. Apparently this is not true (since you started talking about other things) so carry on, my post is no longer relevant. What do you think of my cases on Grackaroni and purpletrator?
You think Bumatlarge has made useful posts so far?
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I think bum had a townie reason for thinking spaghetti might be scum.
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On December 11 2013 05:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2013 05:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 11 2013 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2013 05:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 11 2013 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The problem is he is not really going after me. His posts about me have no other motive than trying to make me angry and therefore play bad. I don't think i am switching my vote off him today. So you're just going to throw your vote away if he's not a lynch candidate today? Come on man. Talk to me about Spaghetticus. Actually my plan was to convince you guys into voting him but there is still 24h to go on this phase. Spaghetticus looks scummy for being overly defensive when people were just trying to get him into reading the thread and giving out reads. He always found some excuse to comment on something that did not make him go towards telling who is mafia. Can you tell me exactly what you find suspicious of Grack? Is it that he voted you without pressuring you? He hasn't really done anything but this: The problem is he is not really going after me. His posts about me have no other motive than trying to make me angry and therefore play bad. I don't know what purpose that serves or how he thinks he is helping the town. By telling me i am not allowed to call out people for shitting on other people because i played bad in another game? Why would someone who is town do that? After checking his filter I can see where you're coming from. I can see a scum grack, but I also know that grack likes to troll. Picking a fight with you early on seems like a terrible idea as scum, but he skated by due to terrible ideas in LXIII too whilst being scum. I wouldn't oppose a Grack lynch at this point but I'm not convinced on it.
Wait what. I didn't skate by for having terrible ideas in LXIII. I skated by for bussing half my team lol.
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On December 11 2013 05:47 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 05:37 sidesprang wrote:On December 11 2013 04:12 JarJarDrinks wrote:On December 11 2013 03:56 kushm4sta wrote:On December 11 2013 03:53 JarJarDrinks wrote:On December 11 2013 00:31 JarJarDrinks wrote:On December 10 2013 09:42 sidesprang wrote:
And lastly he asked for people to vote for him if they found him scummy, which is very Anti-Town. OK this sentence just reeks of a scum mindset w/ the knowledge that cora is town. Because yes, asking someone to vote for yourself is anti-town when you are actually town. But if you're scum then it's just a kinda dumb, ballsy move. But it isn't anti-town. Any comments on this? @ least would like to hear what people think of sidespring. i think it's equally dumb as either alignment, 100% alignment neutral. What is your point sir? btw voting you now based on on your scummy posting pattern. Also you bring up your shit point and want people to comment on it like its gold.
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##vote jarjar My point was that I wanted to know if anyone had comments on it and I wanted to know people thought of sidespring. Pretty sure that was implied. I'm reading sidespring as scum and would like to know if other people are as well. You think that asking people vote for yourself is alignment nuetral? Great, I agree that a person doing that doesn't help tell you what their alignment is. What I'm saying though is that it's anti-(whatever alignment that person is). So to say it's anti-town seems to imply that the person saying it is town.So before you call my point shit, make sure you understand what I'm saying. Exactly I currently view everyone as town, people have done scummy things. But no one are scum In my eyes yet, if so I would have voted for em. So why I would phrase that in any other way I really do not know, and tbh you just seem desperate to find something that is not there. This sentence: Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 09:42 sidesprang wrote:
And lastly he asked for people to vote for him if they found him scummy, which is very Anti-Town. Please tell me your reason for stating it. Does cora voting for himself make him more likely to be scum? Cause that's what I assummed you were getting at.
Imo doing that is in general more scummy than town yes, which was why I brought it up. When I look back at I dont feel he looks more scummy for doing that. I guess my logic mostly applies to stronger attacks and defences.
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purpletrator, where art thou? Do you have any new insights on the game?
On December 11 2013 05:37 sidesprang wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 04:12 JarJarDrinks wrote:On December 11 2013 03:56 kushm4sta wrote:On December 11 2013 03:53 JarJarDrinks wrote:On December 11 2013 00:31 JarJarDrinks wrote:On December 10 2013 09:42 sidesprang wrote:
And lastly he asked for people to vote for him if they found him scummy, which is very Anti-Town. OK this sentence just reeks of a scum mindset w/ the knowledge that cora is town. Because yes, asking someone to vote for yourself is anti-town when you are actually town. But if you're scum then it's just a kinda dumb, ballsy move. But it isn't anti-town. Any comments on this? @ least would like to hear what people think of sidespring. i think it's equally dumb as either alignment, 100% alignment neutral. What is your point sir? btw voting you now based on on your scummy posting pattern. Also you bring up your shit point and want people to comment on it like its gold.
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##vote jarjar My point was that I wanted to know if anyone had comments on it and I wanted to know people thought of sidespring. Pretty sure that was implied. I'm reading sidespring as scum and would like to know if other people are as well. You think that asking people vote for yourself is alignment nuetral? Great, I agree that a person doing that doesn't help tell you what their alignment is. What I'm saying though is that it's anti-(whatever alignment that person is). So to say it's anti-town seems to imply that the person saying it is town.So before you call my point shit, make sure you understand what I'm saying. Exactly I currently view everyone as town, people have done scummy things. But no one are scum In my eyes yet, if so I would have voted for em. So why I would phrase that in any other way I really do not know, and tbh you just seem desperate to find something that is not there.
If someone is doing scummy things, then shouldn't he be scummy in your eyes? You haven't really done much besides softly accusing Corazon. Which are the scummy things you speak of? More specifically, who do you think have been doing scummy things?
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On December 11 2013 05:36 Corazon wrote:
Why does the vendetta b/w Grack and Spag have to spill into the thread discussion?
BTW Spag, why is it ok to call my answers scummy (I assume because of the defensive nature of the posts) but you don't read the questions?
I'm tired of getting assaulted with illogical and non alignment-indicative questions and I'm tired of getting my words twisted to make me look scummy. Stop it.
By the way, I did answer to your case. I'd also want clarification on how I have been "refusing to reveal my thought process"? You're being quite hypocritical (looking at your own accusations) if those were just baseless accusations...
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Ok nobody asked me to further my read on bum when I just posted so I'm going to do it for you.
Hey, HF, what did this mean?
On December 11 2013 05:24 Holyflare wrote:
I'm having real problems with bumatlarge right now.
Oh, thanks for pointing that out!
Well here's what I'm saying. Bumatlarge is a problem in our current environment. While the game is continuously developing with speech on people, reads on others and general scum hunting his attitude is not to participate in any of this for the majority of his first and second appearences in the thread. In fact, he urges AGAINST lynching people that aren't modkill territory.
On December 10 2013 13:30 bumatlarge wrote:
I say we lynch someone who is threatening to be modkilled. I've had that argument before and I still stand by that it's not the same as a no lynch.
Now, as a town mindset, I don't mind this if he kept it to himself and slightly pushed for a pandain lynch over time by gently easing us into it with constructive points on why so and so is better to keep in the game than a player who looks like he just got caught up IRL. However, he effectively disregards that pandain plays actively as all alignments by saying he doesn't care what pandain is capable of:
Show nested quote +Also do you think Pandain as mafia is type of a player that goes inactive for any other than non-game related reasons? If not, why exactly are you trying to shut down discussion? ?!?!?! I don't meta this early. Why would you think that last statement. Am I distracting you?
What benefit do these interactions bring anyone other than to antagonise or hide his alignment? People are curious as to why he wants to lynch off pandain - who is quite clearly not here - and his first response is to question why people are annoyed rather than actively discuss.
He is also quite happy to give out scum read BEFORE he has read anything to do with the players:
On December 11 2013 01:58 bumatlarge wrote:
Spaghetti man is pretty mafia. I'd lynch him if pandain was here. Kushmasta seems super silly. If you have to (/green) things this early that aren't questions to the host, you are playing badly.
##Vote Pandain
and then we all know he completely backtracked by saying "oh i read you now you aren't scum"... A person he had a TOP scum read on suddenly becomes not scum - spag over everyone else so far - just because he decided it was apt to read up on the person he called scum after he called him scum. Giving out reads on people based off idea's in your head is not a town mentality, or if it is, it is indicative of a LAZY town, something that bumatlarge surely wouldn't be as he was trying to instruct people how to play town at the start of the game.
I could do a play by play of his following posts but he actively neglects a player in this game (kush) by saying he won't respond to questions raised by him. That being said, this is the thing that stands out to me THE MOST....
Purple has not participated in this game really AT ALL, i'd lump him in with pandain in terms of activity except purple looks way more scummy. Bum dictates that he is not using meta at all in this game and actively persuades people to not do the same but then justifies purples reads on LSB when purple indeed used meta:
On December 11 2013 03:35 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2013 03:16 bumatlarge wrote:On December 11 2013 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2013 03:01 bumatlarge wrote:On December 11 2013 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Bumatlarge do you think Pandains posting / lack of posting is the most important thing there is going on in thread? Don't worry, I'm reading your posts you to are a big question asker, but you seem to do that alot anyway. Put it this way. I'd like to enter Day 2 with everyone here except pandain. I'm not advocating a sort of no-lynch policy, but I don't think we have a good lynch. What is important in this thread at the moment is debatable. I want to keep the accusations streamlined, and I don't want 6 kushmastas giving me their green reads. The pressure levels are sweet. That's probably what's most important. Wait what? We are under 24h into the game and the only thing you want to talk about is someone who has not posted. Do you think people voting for him now does: 1) make him magically come here posting sooner? 2) leave us with more information than pressuring other people even if he does not come back and we lynch him? But he hasss posted. Information is overrated! He will come if we vote him. He is the missing corner piece to a fully fledged town! MEGAZORD ASSEMBLED! Also do you think Pandain as mafia is type of a player that goes inactive for any other than non-game related reasons? If not, why exactly are you trying to shut down discussion? ?!?!?! I don't meta this early. Why would you think that last statement. Am I distracting you? To me it seemed like you wanted to vote for an inactive, encouraged everyone else to vote for an inactive and therefore shut down any productive discussion until Pandain returns. Apparently this is not true (since you started talking about other things) so carry on, my post is no longer relevant. What do you think of my cases on Grackaroni and purpletrator? I believe pressure is possible outside of immediate voting and lynching. I am not attempting to derail any of your hard work. I actually liked purples reason for getting off LSB, but as LSB said, he should look at any other finishe game LSB has played, of which there is many. His reason for getting on LSB in the first place is not good. That whole interaction seemed like a joke up until that point. That said, let smurfs smurf. I'm all about not reading metas this game if you haven't noticed. I need to see more from grackaroni to be convinced of anything.
He liked purples reason for getting off LSB!?!??!?!?!?! (META META META META META) Not only was purples reasoning for getting off of LSB atrocious but he is then telling us that he accepts it as a logical reason based on meta (that he doesn't want us to use) for getting off LSB? Why is it that he can pick and choose when to accept meta for people like LSB and purple but not for people like pandain etc? There is no good reason other than to say he doesn't like a purple lynch. He knows purple is a smurf, purple has been bad this game. Let's leave him alone. That is NOT a logical conclusion to draw from the entirety of his filter. I don't like it at all.
but then....
On December 11 2013 04:45 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
bumatlarge in fact my case on purple was not purely based on how he get on / off LSB, it was based on the fact that not a single piece of their interaction could possibly share any light on LSB's alignment to him. It was a useless contribution that was in a crappy way made look like he was contributing something. I have to agree. The post he voted LSB with really sells it.
he agrees with rayn.................?
I want to hear his responses but my unvote/vote is heavily leaning towards him right now.
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On December 11 2013 05:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2013 05:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 11 2013 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2013 05:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 11 2013 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The problem is he is not really going after me. His posts about me have no other motive than trying to make me angry and therefore play bad. I don't think i am switching my vote off him today. So you're just going to throw your vote away if he's not a lynch candidate today? Come on man. Talk to me about Spaghetticus. Actually my plan was to convince you guys into voting him but there is still 24h to go on this phase. Spaghetticus looks scummy for being overly defensive when people were just trying to get him into reading the thread and giving out reads. He always found some excuse to comment on something that did not make him go towards telling who is mafia. Can you tell me exactly what you find suspicious of Grack? Is it that he voted you without pressuring you? He hasn't really done anything but this: The problem is he is not really going after me. His posts about me have no other motive than trying to make me angry and therefore play bad. I don't know what purpose that serves or how he thinks he is helping the town. By telling me i am not allowed to call out people for shitting on other people because i played bad in another game? Why would someone who is town do that? After checking his filter I can see where you're coming from. I can see a scum grack, but I also know that grack likes to troll. Picking a fight with you early on seems like a terrible idea as scum, but he skated by due to terrible ideas in LXIII too whilst being scum. I wouldn't oppose a Grack lynch at this point but I'm not convinced on it.
Seriously. This is the most wishy-washy post I've seen yet... Leaving open the option to lynch, but also the option of abstaining from lynching him. It's as soft of a stance as you can possibly have. Just look at it.
It keeps feeling like a good idea to lynch Artanis after all.
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On December 11 2013 06:13 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 05:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 11 2013 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2013 05:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 11 2013 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2013 05:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 11 2013 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The problem is he is not really going after me. His posts about me have no other motive than trying to make me angry and therefore play bad. I don't think i am switching my vote off him today. So you're just going to throw your vote away if he's not a lynch candidate today? Come on man. Talk to me about Spaghetticus. Actually my plan was to convince you guys into voting him but there is still 24h to go on this phase. Spaghetticus looks scummy for being overly defensive when people were just trying to get him into reading the thread and giving out reads. He always found some excuse to comment on something that did not make him go towards telling who is mafia. Can you tell me exactly what you find suspicious of Grack? Is it that he voted you without pressuring you? He hasn't really done anything but this: The problem is he is not really going after me. His posts about me have no other motive than trying to make me angry and therefore play bad. I don't know what purpose that serves or how he thinks he is helping the town. By telling me i am not allowed to call out people for shitting on other people because i played bad in another game? Why would someone who is town do that? After checking his filter I can see where you're coming from. I can see a scum grack, but I also know that grack likes to troll. Picking a fight with you early on seems like a terrible idea as scum, but he skated by due to terrible ideas in LXIII too whilst being scum. I wouldn't oppose a Grack lynch at this point but I'm not convinced on it. Wait what. I didn't skate by for having terrible ideas in LXIII. I skated by for bussing half my team lol.
Well yeah, what I mean is you skated by with trolling because you happened to bus half your team as well.
HF, I see a case that makes Bum hypocritical and bad, but not scum.
I'd also appreciate it if scum stopped trying to get me lynched. It's not happening today Xata. I'm not scum for doubting my read.
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On December 11 2013 07:31 Holyflare wrote:Ok nobody asked me to further my read on bum when I just posted so I'm going to do it for you. Hey, HF, what did this mean? Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 05:24 Holyflare wrote:
I'm having real problems with bumatlarge right now. Oh, thanks for pointing that out! Well here's what I'm saying. Bumatlarge is a problem in our current environment. While the game is continuously developing with speech on people, reads on others and general scum hunting his attitude is not to participate in any of this for the majority of his first and second appearences in the thread. In fact, he urges AGAINST lynching people that aren't modkill territory. Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 13:30 bumatlarge wrote:
I say we lynch someone who is threatening to be modkilled. I've had that argument before and I still stand by that it's not the same as a no lynch. Now, as a town mindset, I don't mind this if he kept it to himself and slightly pushed for a pandain lynch over time by gently easing us into it with constructive points on why so and so is better to keep in the game than a player who looks like he just got caught up IRL. However, he effectively disregards that pandain plays actively as all alignments by saying he doesn't care what pandain is capable of: Show nested quote +Also do you think Pandain as mafia is type of a player that goes inactive for any other than non-game related reasons? If not, why exactly are you trying to shut down discussion? ?!?!?! I don't meta this early. Why would you think that last statement. Am I distracting you? What benefit do these interactions bring anyone other than to antagonise or hide his alignment? People are curious as to why he wants to lynch off pandain - who is quite clearly not here - and his first response is to question why people are annoyed rather than actively discuss. He is also quite happy to give out scum read BEFORE he has read anything to do with the players: Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 01:58 bumatlarge wrote:
Spaghetti man is pretty mafia. I'd lynch him if pandain was here. Kushmasta seems super silly. If you have to (/green) things this early that aren't questions to the host, you are playing badly.
##Vote Pandain and then we all know he completely backtracked by saying "oh i read you now you aren't scum"... A person he had a TOP scum read on suddenly becomes not scum - spag over everyone else so far - just because he decided it was apt to read up on the person he called scum after he called him scum. Giving out reads on people based off idea's in your head is not a town mentality, or if it is, it is indicative of a LAZY town, something that bumatlarge surely wouldn't be as he was trying to instruct people how to play town at the start of the game. I could do a play by play of his following posts but he actively neglects a player in this game (kush) by saying he won't respond to questions raised by him. That being said, this is the thing that stands out to me THE MOST.... Purple has not participated in this game really AT ALL, i'd lump him in with pandain in terms of activity except purple looks way more scummy. Bum dictates that he is not using meta at all in this game and actively persuades people to not do the same but then justifies purples reads on LSB when purple indeed used meta: Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 03:35 bumatlarge wrote:On December 11 2013 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2013 03:16 bumatlarge wrote:On December 11 2013 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2013 03:01 bumatlarge wrote:On December 11 2013 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Bumatlarge do you think Pandains posting / lack of posting is the most important thing there is going on in thread? Don't worry, I'm reading your posts you to are a big question asker, but you seem to do that alot anyway. Put it this way. I'd like to enter Day 2 with everyone here except pandain. I'm not advocating a sort of no-lynch policy, but I don't think we have a good lynch. What is important in this thread at the moment is debatable. I want to keep the accusations streamlined, and I don't want 6 kushmastas giving me their green reads. The pressure levels are sweet. That's probably what's most important. Wait what? We are under 24h into the game and the only thing you want to talk about is someone who has not posted. Do you think people voting for him now does: 1) make him magically come here posting sooner? 2) leave us with more information than pressuring other people even if he does not come back and we lynch him? But he hasss posted. Information is overrated! He will come if we vote him. He is the missing corner piece to a fully fledged town! MEGAZORD ASSEMBLED! Also do you think Pandain as mafia is type of a player that goes inactive for any other than non-game related reasons? If not, why exactly are you trying to shut down discussion? ?!?!?! I don't meta this early. Why would you think that last statement. Am I distracting you? To me it seemed like you wanted to vote for an inactive, encouraged everyone else to vote for an inactive and therefore shut down any productive discussion until Pandain returns. Apparently this is not true (since you started talking about other things) so carry on, my post is no longer relevant. What do you think of my cases on Grackaroni and purpletrator? I believe pressure is possible outside of immediate voting and lynching. I am not attempting to derail any of your hard work. I actually liked purples reason for getting off LSB, but as LSB said, he should look at any other finishe game LSB has played, of which there is many. His reason for getting on LSB in the first place is not good. That whole interaction seemed like a joke up until that point. That said, let smurfs smurf. I'm all about not reading metas this game if you haven't noticed. I need to see more from grackaroni to be convinced of anything. He liked purples reason for getting off LSB!?!??!?!?!?! (META META META META META) Not only was purples reasoning for getting off of LSB atrocious but he is then telling us that he accepts it as a logical reason based on meta (that he doesn't want us to use) for getting off LSB? Why is it that he can pick and choose when to accept meta for people like LSB and purple but not for people like pandain etc? There is no good reason other than to say he doesn't like a purple lynch. He knows purple is a smurf, purple has been bad this game. Let's leave him alone. That is NOT a logical conclusion to draw from the entirety of his filter. I don't like it at all. but then.... Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 04:45 bumatlarge wrote:On December 11 2013 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
bumatlarge in fact my case on purple was not purely based on how he get on / off LSB, it was based on the fact that not a single piece of their interaction could possibly share any light on LSB's alignment to him. It was a useless contribution that was in a crappy way made look like he was contributing something. I have to agree. The post he voted LSB with really sells it. he agrees with rayn.................? I want to hear his responses but my unvote/vote is heavily leaning towards him right now.
bumatlarge's opinions do seem flip-floppy. I'd like to hear his thought process regarding the posts you mentioned.
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On December 11 2013 07:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 06:13 Grackaroni wrote:On December 11 2013 05:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 11 2013 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2013 05:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 11 2013 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2013 05:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 11 2013 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The problem is he is not really going after me. His posts about me have no other motive than trying to make me angry and therefore play bad. I don't think i am switching my vote off him today. So you're just going to throw your vote away if he's not a lynch candidate today? Come on man. Talk to me about Spaghetticus. Actually my plan was to convince you guys into voting him but there is still 24h to go on this phase. Spaghetticus looks scummy for being overly defensive when people were just trying to get him into reading the thread and giving out reads. He always found some excuse to comment on something that did not make him go towards telling who is mafia. Can you tell me exactly what you find suspicious of Grack? Is it that he voted you without pressuring you? He hasn't really done anything but this: The problem is he is not really going after me. His posts about me have no other motive than trying to make me angry and therefore play bad. I don't know what purpose that serves or how he thinks he is helping the town. By telling me i am not allowed to call out people for shitting on other people because i played bad in another game? Why would someone who is town do that? After checking his filter I can see where you're coming from. I can see a scum grack, but I also know that grack likes to troll. Picking a fight with you early on seems like a terrible idea as scum, but he skated by due to terrible ideas in LXIII too whilst being scum. I wouldn't oppose a Grack lynch at this point but I'm not convinced on it. Wait what. I didn't skate by for having terrible ideas in LXIII. I skated by for bussing half my team lol. Well yeah, what I mean is you skated by with trolling because you happened to bus half your team as well.
HF, I see a case that makes Bum hypocritical and bad, but not scum. I'd also appreciate it if scum stopped trying to get me lynched. It's not happening today Xata. I'm not scum for doubting my read.
For a player that is trying to get people to play town in an optimal way do you not think it strange that he choses to be hypocritical on a person that is coming under heavy pressure?
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