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Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 11:27 GMT
#2419
On December 15 2013 20:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That's my point. The vote switch cannot possibly achieve anything from scum pov. If he switches to Vayne and Vayne is scum he risks losing a better role than vanilla scum. If he switches to someone else he still risks Vayne getting lynched if someone from town switches votes and he effectively makes himself look bad in any way.


It was a last minute thing vote counts were off. I think it is more than plausible that he panicked and outed himself.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 11:29 GMT
#2421
On December 15 2013 20:22 kushm4sta wrote:
hapa I think those quotes actually point to vayne being town.

Scum usually don't defend each other so blatantly.
Also, a common scum tactic is to town read someone who is acting superficially scummy (aka trolly) like me or vayne. They do this people are going to want to lynch us no matter what, and it's easy to reverse their read on us, and it's an easy way to look like they are contributing.


It wasn't that blatant I had to dig it out. It was subtle manipulation and something I didn't notice until I read through his filter. I think it is highly likely that Vayne is scum.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 12:35 GMT
#2425
Can you agree Rayn that the Slam vote on XigXag could have come from a confused and panicked scum whose buddies got wagoned at the last second?
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 12:49 GMT
#2428
I just found something interesting.

These are the only times Rayn mentioned purple AT ALL until purple became his direct counter wagon.



On December 14 2013 05:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
read my filter and you'll have all those answers except purple, who I don't know about yet


On December 15 2013 05:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
voting for purple at this point would just be committing suicide rayn, you would have to get more votes to even consder it. No one answered my question tho on why LSB support is dwindling when all he did was come back and vote me.


On December 15 2013 05:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 15 2013 05:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
probably gonna get lynched, so yea please kill LSB, artanis, and maybe even JJD when I flip town since his tunnel is playing to his scum meta.

4th scum is probably some random llurker so don't really care

You will not get lynched.
I'll make sure of it.

Now vote for purple, if the vote is not enough we switch to LSB. but purple is scum.


that really is not an option, look at the voting. it would have to be LSB or XX and XX would be a shot in the dark


3 Times in 2 entire cylces. each time dissuading the town from trying to lynch purple.

The, and this is important, Vayne votes Purple out of nowhere and only because purp is his direct counter wagon.

On December 15 2013 05:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
it's not going to do anything

##unvote

##vote: purple

im dead poretty much unless miracle


Since then he mentions purple 15! times. in a pretty obvious bus.

On December 15 2013 05:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
alakaslam and purple are scum.


On December 15 2013 05:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
purple is 100% scum, some one help me out here


On December 15 2013 06:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
why did alakaslam and purple try to force kill me together? right after alakaslam said he wanted purple lynched


On December 15 2013 06:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 05:54 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 15 2013 05:52 JarJarDrinks wrote:
@Alakaslam what r u doing w/ ur vote?

Making sure if it is equal between vayne and LSB it winds up being vayne. I would prefer purple and cig.


and then you and purple vote to try and kill me.


On December 15 2013 06:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
also rayn, i saw what you meant after I read this

Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 02:14 purpletrator wrote:
hey kush, why did/do you have me as green?


good enough reason to vote him


He does not give reasoning or provide evidence. He flips a switch and milks town cred.

Then comes this post which states there are association tells galore (there really aren't) in an attempt to set up next lynch off the back of purples lynch

On December 15 2013 06:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
purple and LSB have association tells galore in his filter, I don't see why we don't lynch LSB too



In summary Vayne mentions purple only 3! times up until the end of day 2, each time dissuading people from lynching purp.

He then has to bus when they are direct counter wagons to each other and blatantly does so. Mentioning purp 15! times in minutes.

Please lynch Vayne tomorrow.


To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 12:50 GMT
#2429
Ew. The rayn at the top should be Vayne. Fucking confused.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 13:36 GMT
#2433
No responses to my analysis?
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Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 13:58 GMT
#2434
Disappointing.
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Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 14:01 GMT
#2437
I think grack could be scum too.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 14:03 GMT
#2438
On December 15 2013 23:01 Xatalos wrote:
On the other hand, it's weird that the top 2 lynches would be scum. And there are other reasons that make VA less likely scum.


Why would the top two lynches being scum be weird. Town decide the wagons generally. Especially in this town where the top 3 players are obv town.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 14:03 GMT
#2439
I would like people to read grack's filter and tell me what they think in light of the flip today.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 14:14 GMT
#2441
On December 15 2013 23:10 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 23:03 Plutarch wrote:
I would like people to read grack's filter and tell me what they think in light of the flip today.


Grackaroni is definitely one of the most suspicious votes (if not the most suspicious). He was very unwilling to lynch purple.

Incidentally, his D1 vote was also one of the most scummy:

Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 03:24 Grackaroni wrote:
Geez Vayne actually slipped lol. Un-lynchable scum record goodbye I will take pleasure in this.
##Unvote: Alakaslam
##Vote: VayneAuthority

I don't think it prevents Slam from being scum.


I don't think VA and Grackaroni are scum together, though. And Grackaroni is very scummy on his own rights.


Why don't you think they can be scum together?
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 14:18 GMT
#2444
I mean I don't think that quote rules it out at all. Is there anything more?
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 14:31 GMT
#2449
So Basically where I'm at after doing a lot of filter analysis is that

Vayne

Alakaslam

Grack

All look terrible with the purp flip and should be seriously considered as lynch candidates

LSB and Xigxag look better.

Xatalos is likely 3rd party.

still need to read artanis

As for others, Kush is town, Coag is ....
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 14:35 GMT
#2451
Sidesprang looks better also
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 14:38 GMT
#2452
On December 15 2013 23:33 Xatalos wrote:
Where do you get that I'd be SK...?

Basically you have sheeped me a lot.
You talk a lot but are more likely to discuss things when lead/promtped. You have basically sheeped the strong townies all game.

You have made good points etc. but not really seemed ultra invested in the outcome of lynches hence the sheeping of one or two townies most of the game.

You aren't scummy but you are active and not townie.

Basically it is really obvious.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 14:51 GMT
#2454
On December 15 2013 23:46 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 23:38 Plutarch wrote:
On December 15 2013 23:33 Xatalos wrote:
Where do you get that I'd be SK...?

Basically you have sheeped me a lot.
You talk a lot but are more likely to discuss things when lead/promtped. You have basically sheeped the strong townies all game.

You have made good points etc. but not really seemed ultra invested in the outcome of lynches hence the sheeping of one or two townies most of the game.

You aren't scummy but you are active and not townie.

Basically it is really obvious.


Well, obviously I disagree... Do you think that my heavy pressure during D1 or individual pushes on several players (Artanis, Corazon...) are indicative of sheeping / not being that invested in who gets lynched?


Well that is like my whole point. You went through the motions and stuff with pressure and cases but at the end of the day you sheeped like crazy.

Like it is so obvious to me that I'm not even calling you mafia. I am calling you SK and I am very very sure.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 14:54 GMT
#2456
On December 15 2013 23:51 Xatalos wrote:
Personally I think LSB might be SK. He's been like... the player least invested in who gets lynched at all......

He doesn't seem invested in the game. Period.

You are Very invested in the game. But not in who dies. All you have done is sheep when push comes to shove. And that is why you are SK.

To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 14:57 GMT
#2458
On December 15 2013 23:55 kushm4sta wrote:
yeah :LSB for sk. Xatalos is scum. Hapa your list sucks imo. I am liek a prophet heed my words as you wrongly convince people to lynch down your list.


No offense Kush but I trust my reads and the sheer amount of work I put into them over yours.

To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 15:00 GMT
#2463
Nah i'm better than clarity or perfection. Hue. Also meta won't sway me. I've been watching you for days. I am more sure you are SK than anything else.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 15:01 GMT
#2464
On December 15 2013 23:59 kushm4sta wrote:
XATALOS StOP TAlking about past games... your blatant scumminess is pissing me off.

yes i caught you in my second newbie and i have caught you again.


That is a lie. You didn't catch him.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
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