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Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 14 2013 21:38 GMT
#2314
Does anyone find it odd that after slam scum claimed in the voting he dropped his persona and is now understandable?
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 14 2013 21:42 GMT
#2322
On December 15 2013 06:40 Blazinghand wrote:
that being said, except for "lynch xigxag" i have no reads right now (dont' count anything i've said so far)

I'm probably being shot tonight, there's probably not a doctor, so i'll do a reread and drop a final set of scumreads. it's been a lot of fun guys, and great job on the PT lynch. All we need to do is carry this home.


Everything I've done, I've done for my people!
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 01:46 GMT
#2329
Basically your vote analysis shows that I was the reason he got lynched. <3
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 02:05 GMT
#2332
On December 15 2013 11:03 kushm4sta wrote:
just got here. when is lynch? what are wagons?


LOL. we already lynched scum. It's over kush.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 02:30 GMT
#2335
Scum are funny when they are caught.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 02:47 GMT
#2340
On December 15 2013 11:45 kushm4sta wrote:
whose genius idea was it to kill purpl


Rayn called him scum and I made the wagon move.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 03:02 GMT
#2347
On December 15 2013 11:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
SK we will shoot blazinghand so don't shoot him aight, don't wanna overlap


Lol what?
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 03:03 GMT
#2348
On December 15 2013 11:57 kushm4sta wrote:
hapa plz speculate: do you think rayn or yourself is gonna get hit tonight?


I think it is almost certain that 2 out Blazinghand, Rayn and I will die.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 03:03 GMT
#2349
Vayne just scum claimed.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 04:09 GMT
#2356
On December 15 2013 13:04 VayneAuthority wrote:
alakaslam is now the smartest person in the thread, my how times change


What did you intend to achieve by claiming scum. Because that is what you did 100 percent. Explain to me the townie motivation for that post?
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 04:21 GMT
#2358
On December 15 2013 13:18 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 13:09 Plutarch wrote:
On December 15 2013 13:04 VayneAuthority wrote:
alakaslam is now the smartest person in the thread, my how times change


What did you intend to achieve by claiming scum. Because that is what you did 100 percent. Explain to me the townie motivation for that post?

Disgruntlement


Why are you defending Vayne? I asked vayne what his motives were. So why do you think you are able to answer for his motives?
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 04:27 GMT
#2361
On December 15 2013 13:24 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 13:09 Plutarch wrote:
On December 15 2013 13:04 VayneAuthority wrote:
alakaslam is now the smartest person in the thread, my how times change


What did you intend to achieve by claiming scum. Because that is what you did 100 percent. Explain to me the townie motivation for that post?
doesn't matter; he is scum, he claimed it. I have no dieing wish, no autoeulogy, no final will other than that VA be lynched tomorrow.

that is all that matters.


Why would scum claim in the thread though :/
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 04:37 GMT
#2364
On December 15 2013 13:34 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 13:27 Plutarch wrote:
On December 15 2013 13:24 Blazinghand wrote:
On December 15 2013 13:09 Plutarch wrote:
On December 15 2013 13:04 VayneAuthority wrote:
alakaslam is now the smartest person in the thread, my how times change


What did you intend to achieve by claiming scum. Because that is what you did 100 percent. Explain to me the townie motivation for that post?
doesn't matter; he is scum, he claimed it. I have no dieing wish, no autoeulogy, no final will other than that VA be lynched tomorrow.

that is all that matters.


Why would scum claim in the thread though :/

Hahaha

It is ULTIMATE WIFOM OF POWER!!!

Yes, it can actually be scum motivated I could see someone doing this.

This is artfully illustrated somewhere gimme a sec.


Yeah I could see scum doing this too. Communicate with the SK so brazenly that you have plausible deniability. That is why i'm trying to think of a town scenario for doing that with town motivations. And I really can't right now.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 04:56 GMT
#2373
On December 15 2013 13:52 Alakaslam wrote:
Plutarch!

I want to know, do you care about Ford VS Chevrolet?

Do you know where I might find a honda?


You are speaking like a retard who only half remembers Aldous Huxely's A Brave New World and is getting it mixed up with George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 09:55 GMT
#2397
On December 15 2013 15:25 Blazinghand wrote:
Vayne claimed scum. I don't know why there's anyone who doesn't want to lynch him. The reason he claimed scum is he thinks he can troll out of it, or maybe that it's such an audacious move that people will think scum could never do that, but stop thinking about that. stop thinking about his motives, stop thinking about anything other than this:

VA claimed scum.

not like some kind of rhetorical argument where I'm like "wow Player A, that argument is so bad you figuratively claimed scum" no not like that, VA actually claimed scum, he LITERALLY tried to coordinate his nk with the sk in the thread.

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 11:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
SK we will shoot blazinghand so don't shoot him aight, don't wanna overlap


see that?

remember that: remember that if you somehow don't lynch VA tomorrow, when you wonder where you went wrong, how you let scum win-- remember that he claimed scum, and you did nothing

lynch VA. there is no excuse not to.


I lol'd but he has a point. While I don't think it is good to simply ignore the mindset of someone, he did claim scum. He did try to coordinate with the serial killer in the thread.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 10:08 GMT
#2399
I want to know what rayn thinks about this all. I plan to do some analysis of Purples filter later also.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 10:23 GMT
#2402
On December 15 2013 19:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I see pretty much no point in Vayne saying what he did as town.


I tend to agree with you. The only explanation as town is if you were trying to troll or something.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 10:56 GMT
#2409
Two people look really bad now that purple has flipped scum. Happily they are also the two people who are the most independently scummy anyway.

Firstly he hardly mentions vayne even though he was a counter wagon on both days. But when he does mention vayne he likes to downplay his scumminess.

On December 12 2013 02:52 purpletrator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 02:51 VayneAuthority wrote:
where is the contradiction?

You know that I'm pushing him as a mislynch in the thread, killing him as a night kill is pure WIFOM. Completely unrelated.

You said you'd never kill him, then you said you'd NK him to make the game more fun for yourself. Direct and absolute contradiction (that I do not find scummy, but its there).




On December 12 2013 03:11 purpletrator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 12 2013 02:52 purpletrator wrote:
On December 12 2013 02:51 VayneAuthority wrote:
where is the contradiction?

You know that I'm pushing him as a mislynch in the thread, killing him as a night kill is pure WIFOM. Completely unrelated.

You said you'd never kill him, then you said you'd NK him to make the game more fun for yourself. Direct and absolute contradiction (that I do not find scummy, but its there).

Why don't you find that scummy?
He originally used that as a reason why he is not mafia (because getting rid of Slam is not beneficial to him in any case) and later on said he does not want to play with "bad" players, which goes against his original justification of himself being town.

Because with Vayne, ego>good play


On December 12 2013 03:13 purpletrator wrote:
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On December 12 2013 03:12 kushm4sta wrote:
yeah but purpl it's the easiest thing in the world for vayne to act like vayne. You can't townread someone from their egotistic personality.

you shouldnt scumread him for it either.


On December 12 2013 03:15 purpletrator wrote:
ebwop: my point is that his statement is hypothetical and not alignment indicative for vayne.


On December 12 2013 03:17 purpletrator wrote:
No rayn, I do not think Vayne is scummy for puffing his chest.


On December 12 2013 03:25 purpletrator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 12 2013 03:17 purpletrator wrote:
No rayn, I do not think Vayne is scummy for puffing his chest.

Do you actually even think about why people say things they do?
You don't really seem to be doing that much. That makes you suspicious aswell.

I think Vayne is prone to egotistical outbursts. Could he be scum? Yes. Could he be scum for the reason you and JJD are voting him? In my opinion, no.


Why would scum want to defend a scummy townie like Vayne over the course of two days when Vayne had the very real possibility of getting lynched? What is the point in scum doing that?

On day one Purple further tries to shift attention away from vayne during the final hours of the lynch by attempting to set the lynch as a race between two candidates that we now know to be both town. Even though vayne was a viable lynch at that time.

On December 12 2013 03:50 purpletrator wrote:
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On December 12 2013 03:48 Plutarch wrote:
can you two drop it please. I could lynch Spag or cora. Cora saying he has notes he could post and then not posting them bothers me.

This is where I'm at right now.


On December 12 2013 05:11 purpletrator wrote:
before slam gets too far, active lurkers (theres gotta be like 10 of us), who is scummier, cora or spag?


Purple finally did vote for vayne. But only at the last minuite and the vote is meaningless. If vayne had not been crossvoted by purple as the leading counterwagon he would look terrible. This last vote is FORCED and gives vayne zero town cred.




The other person that looks bad is Slam. Purple who despite saying this at the beginning of the game

On December 10 2013 08:46 purpletrator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 08:42 Xatalos wrote:
On December 10 2013 08:30 kushm4sta wrote:
ya like i said im lurk strating. have no opinions on anything so dont even bother to ask.


Alright then. If it's going to be like this, I don't want you alive at LYLO. Start doing something or die.

##Vote kushm4sta

Can we appeal to the vig(s) to shoot kush and/or slam for us?


Refuses to lynch and vehemently defends slam all day one. Once again, why would scum feel compelled to hard defend a relatively easy policy lynch?

They wouldn't. If the person getting policy lynched was town.

Hey Slam get in the thread and defend yourself or you will be lynched

On December 12 2013 03:11 purpletrator wrote:
Slam are you around? I dont want to lynch you but your absence is not helping if you are town.


Hard defense. Why would this happen if slam was policy lynched as town?

On December 12 2013 03:12 purpletrator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 03:11 kushm4sta wrote:
slam is geting viged so who cares what he has to say

he's actually getting lynched right now and its a really bad lynch.


On December 12 2013 03:33 purpletrator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 03:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 12 2013 03:12 purpletrator wrote:
On December 12 2013 03:11 kushm4sta wrote:
slam is geting viged so who cares what he has to say

he's actually getting lynched right now and its a really bad lynch.

Why exactly is Slam a bad lynch?

He is almost the same as an RNG lynch. He's so polarizing of a player that there is no analysis to be done on his wagon or the discussions surrounding him. It is a bad lynch. You get no information and statistically a mislynch.



On December 12 2013 05:11 purpletrator wrote:
before slam gets too far, active lurkers (theres gotta be like 10 of us), who is scummier, cora or spag?


He also tries to hand hold slam into making legible posts in order to sway the vote. During this hand holding he shows that he has intimate knowledge of Slam's persona which does not come from the thread.

On December 12 2013 04:09 purpletrator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 04:05 Alakaslam wrote:
Hey, way back here on page 55? I just noticed something will look false.

Please remember: https://mobile.greyhound.com/index.html;jsessionid=CAA7E6176CF0A0AA8B2BCBE9562ED59A.jvm4?0

Slam this isnt even in your persona and it makes no sense. I dont care if you have to put it in code, who are you referring to and why are the ICE?


On December 12 2013 04:44 purpletrator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 04:40 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 12 2013 04:09 purpletrator wrote:
On December 12 2013 04:05 Alakaslam wrote:
Hey, way back here on page 55? I just noticed something will look false.

Please remember: https://mobile.greyhound.com/index.html;jsessionid=CAA7E6176CF0A0AA8B2BCBE9562ED59A.jvm4?0

Slam this isnt even in your persona and it makes no sense. I dont care if you have to put it in code, who are you referring to and why are the ICE?

Ice sank the titanic


sorry, that should have been why are they ice. I understand that ICE=scum and fire=town etc. Right now you are liable to be drowned, not frozen. Do you understand the difference?
Also, it is not strictly because you have a persona, it is because you constantly ramble on about where is the ICE/ Do you like ICE without mentioning any particular person(s) who are cold or clouded in shadows.


His stuff on LSB seems null to me. But his defense of Slam and Vayne look really really bad. Further, they are both independently scummy.

To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 10:57 GMT
#2410
Please read that. It is important.
To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future.
Plutarch
Profile Joined December 2013
Greece515 Posts
December 15 2013 11:11 GMT
#2413
On December 15 2013 20:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually one thing Plutarch. tbh if Slam and Vayne are both scum why would Slam voteswitch in the end? There is no way he's gonna get a townie lynched, why would he do that?


He panicked? If he really wanted to lynch vayne instead of his scum buddy purple why did he not switch to vayne? Instead he switches to the only non scum able to get lynched.
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