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On November 30 2013 12:19 supersoft wrote: My draftnumbers will be 1 and 30. I want a hero with KP... Or some kind of protection lol. I dare you to take my numbers. If no other townie picks my numbers, i'll either be firstpick, or if some scummer "sacrifices" himself on my numbers, we will both be lastpick. Can we somehow organize this? I mean next one could be Mig with 2 and 30, then BC 3 and 30, then sandroba 4 and 30 etc. Does that make sense? Technically I suppose you could, numbers are made public I believe. But good luck getting people to agree it. ##Vote: Graves His ability serves no purpose to town at all. Is it encouraged to roleplay as the player we were assigned? | ||
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In that case, I'd like to declare myself as the best player in the game and you all suck. | ||
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On November 30 2013 12:48 OdinOfPergo wrote: I actually don't think we should ban champs like Talon. Yes they might be nice for mafia early on in the game by denying early checks... But really... if you're playing a scum agenda... you're going to get busted for it. The same way a Godfather gets busted for it. It's 100% the same principle. You're aware that there's no way for us to known that those champs would be picked so we can't just bust them for it? | ||
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On November 30 2013 12:52 geript wrote: Alright guys... Time to raise me up. I'm definitely going to carry our team. Bans really don't matter whatsoever and I couldn't care less for them. Too bad so many of you are terrible in comparison to how teh awezome bombz I am. ##vote no bans You're trash compared to me. | ||
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On November 30 2013 12:58 OdinOfPergo wrote: Yes. But think of a un-themed game. You are not notified that a God father, Roleblocker, etc. is in the game... However you come to realize the fact before all to long usually ye? I mean I could be wrong but my gut instinct is to ban champs like Ahri, Amumu, Blitz, etc. Champs that could change the order that towns actions hit. Champs that could reduce the # of votes (IE specifically Amumu) on a scum vs town Lynch wagon could potentially be catastrophic. Feel free to discuss. We do have 23 hours.. I get your point yeah, but it's the choice between roles that could be useful for both town and scum and roles that only benefit scum here since we only get three bans, so it seems to me it's better to eliminate champs that will never be useful for town (IMO, Graves + Talon + Yorick) | ||
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On November 30 2013 13:05 Rean wrote: I get your point yeah, but it's the choice between roles that could be useful for both town and scum and roles that only benefit scum here since we only get three bans, so it seems to me it's better to eliminate champs that will never be useful for town (IMO, Graves + Talon + Yorick) Add Amumu to that list aswell, will almost never be good for town. | ||
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On November 30 2013 13:10 sandroba wrote: Yo rean I won't be able to post saturday and most of sunday, can I trust you to organize shit to make sure we get the 3 top threats agreed upon and banned instead of each of us voting randomly and ending up with pretty inefficient bans? I got this, dw. I'm good at yelling at people until they do as I say. I like yelling at people until they do as I say. | ||
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On November 30 2013 13:23 ticklishmusic wrote: Well that kind of stinks, how do we ban based on half info >_> We ban based on the info we have because it's all we can do. | ||
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On November 30 2013 13:16 sandroba wrote: And btw, I think graves is a pretty efficient ban too. Sure there are a few heroes that hide scum's alignment but graves is unique because as far as i can tell he is the only hero that can make a townie return red to a check, on top of hiding scum's alignment. If he is out of the game a red check means scum for certain. In a game like this with hidden abilities and so many different roles checks are very, very unreliable. Eliminating Graves in this case won't change it that much, but it's a good start. Although, thinking about it, maybe Amumu is a better vote than Graves due to how unreliable checks will be in general. | ||
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On November 30 2013 13:56 geript wrote: Why are you just mindlessly echoing what Sandroba's saying? Why are whichever bans we make if any important? Oh gosh, I don't know why, maybe because some champs are more useful in the hands of mafia than others? Stop asking stupid questions. | ||
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On November 30 2013 14:48 JonnyLaw wrote: Rereading abilities I think Karthus should be ban priority. That's a huge blow to us if karthus channels an ult on strong town players. Similarly to others, it's nasty but can still be used in a town way. Champs like Yorick/Amumu/Talon/Graves are scarier IMO. Also, ##Unvote ##Vote: Yorick When thinking about it a little more, he's more dangerous to town than Graves is. | ||
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On December 01 2013 05:25 geript wrote: @Rayn. Graves is a bad ban choice. Scum banning cops will be irrelevant of whether Graves will be available. At best, Graves is a role which a low draft scum may pick up because town are highly unlikely to take it. That's not worth a ban. Banning a powerful KP ability to deny it from scum is better. If we don't ban Graves all investigations might aswell be useless because they could just be framed. KP roles are not good in the hands of scum either but there's more important bans to be made (Graves/Yorick) | ||
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On December 01 2013 12:15 Risen wrote: EBQOP: Went with 15,15 So is it 5 or 15? | ||
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On December 02 2013 13:06 OdinOfPergo wrote: I'm a caster creep. I have 850 hp. I can do 50 dmg to a character of my chosing per night. | ||
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On December 03 2013 04:25 VisceraEyes wrote: You just claimed VT. Are you saying you arent sharing who you picked? actually he claimed he managed to pick a role that should have been picked earlier. | ||
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On December 04 2013 01:58 marvellosity wrote: Sorry, just to reiterate here. Rean's last post in this game was: 8 hours later he found the time to post in the post-game for Back to the basics, yet didn't find the time to even pop his head in here. You called? | ||
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On December 04 2013 02:37 Roffles wrote: Probably the worst post I've read in a while. If you're town, please kill yourself. What. How on earth is this acceptable? | ||
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On December 04 2013 02:42 jcarlsoniv wrote: Roffles' regular dosage of cancer. Although, Roffles, you have a 1 page filter and haven't said anything in quite a long time. Scum reads? I don't give a fuck if he does this regularly, there is NO WAY anyone should be allowed to say that ever. | ||
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On December 04 2013 02:45 marvellosity wrote: I'm not really setup-man so I don't have any particular opinion other than what I've already stated - claimed VTs should claim what they tried to choose originally. There are probably ones that I missed but this includes Rean Mocsta OdinofPergo I'm sure various claiming will be useful at some point but I don't think that point is now. Picked Lux which I believe VisceraEyes has. | ||
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On December 04 2013 06:19 Mig wrote: Rean looks pretty terrible. Comes in 4 minutes after marv calls him out to respond, so seems to be actively reading the thread but posts nothing at all besides yelling at Roffles for being mean. Rean what do you think about the current lynch candidates? Who do you plan on voting for? Also where is supersoft. I would have expected him to be around by now and commenting on current events. His only case this game has been against LSB who he called scum but then he proceeded to say he isn't sure if he should be lynched today in the same post? He also said he was going to go do some meta research on him, did you ever do any of that super? I'm not actively reading the thread, just happened to be around at the time. And it really annoyed me that apparently it's okay to tell others to kill themselves over a fucking game. ATM I don't have any opinions on anyone, didn't really read that much of the thread. Prolly gonna find someone that looks town enough and go full sheep. | ||
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On December 04 2013 06:45 LSB wrote: +1 for not telling others to kill themselves over a game, it was a few steps to far. Should be addressed out of thread anyways, and possibly maybe filing a complaint to the moderators. However, lurking is probably the most anti-townie thing you can do and hopefully you can remedy that. I pmd the host account hoping they're gonna do something about it but nothing so far >.> | ||
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On December 04 2013 07:25 kushm4sta wrote: ream are you worried he's actually going to kill himself now? I doubt it. Still not anywhere close to okay. But it's being handled atm so no more need to discuss it. | ||
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On December 04 2013 10:55 bumatlarge wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Twas the day 1 before lynch, and all through the thread The townies were wondering who should be dead. Despite the clamor of bad townies to echo their message Bum knew his word was the real visage "J-Carl is the mafia, I have good proof here" Most townies nodded, and bum was held dear! But then LSB, with a smile quite wicked, said, "but am I Tryn, which Bum supposedly pick-ed?" The townies winced at the thought, but that wince slowly faded "Yeah Bum, how come no Tryn?"; LSB was elated. "Well this isn't fair, is this a cruel joke by the hosts?!" Sniggered LeanSoggyBacon, "I just don't read your posts!" As the votes piled high, Bum knew he could show 'em. "I'll show them real good, with a quite epic poem!" I think Jcarl is mafia, or my name is not Bum But did you know geript, is rival, is probably scum? Though I may fall short, because I have to use waffles, to rhyme with my next guess, who is most likely Roffles I feel really bad because kushm4asta seems new but he can't think I'm townie, he's not smart enough to knew. More, I know not, but I can give a few guesses of people who might wear blood-stained red dresses. Although, guaranteed, he is our DeeTee, To claim is lackluster, you naughty VE What kind of person needs to claim that to Lux he is wed? An easy read, most likely, and I have a hunch he's red. I'd watch out for this guy, his name isOatsmasta He called me townie too quickly,like one other m4sta There may be more that I'm missing, that I have simply not found. But if you were not mentioned, then I think you are town! I may not be the townie you needed right now, but I'm the one you deserve, and this lynch I'll allow. ![[image loading]](http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy43/achromaggie/Gifs/tumblr_l8zb9eEjMs1qad04no1_500.gif) ##Vote: Bumatlarge | ||
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On December 04 2013 11:24 austinmcc wrote: I don't understand scumjay going "HAHA I GOTS TO KEEP ME EYE ON YOU, SCUMMY MARV" a bunch for no real reason. mafiajay is going to...do nothing, admit to doing nothing, unabashedly flout that he's doing nothing, and spend his only real effort of the day just saying that marv is scum or might be scum or was scum this other time? I love playing the "marv was scum this other time" game, but ... it's a side event, not a main feature. I don't see a scum player being so keyed in on that and so willing to flaunt his do-nothingness. I don't think bum is mafia. That post of his on VTs too town. I'd love to lynch rean. Rean's BttB filter has ... real posts in it. Thoughts, reads - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=435582&user=Rean His filter this game does not have real posts. There are also...strange things:(Put aside that this post is made while he wants graves to get banned, but has his vote on yorick, who is DEFINITELY GONNA GET BANNED. But he doesn't move a vote off yorick to try and get graves, the guy he's saying should be banned, definitely banned) Saysbut hasn't said anything about ANYONE townie or scummy, despite his game plan being to find a townie and sheep em. There's just no interaction from today to go off of, despite him saying his goal is to find a townie. I was super duper inactive for the banning stuff, have not read, but out of filters I've seen, his banning phase looks...very funky. It's not just a lack of planning, it's the fact that he says KP roles are bad for mafia and the fact that he really wants graves banned, instead of someone (i dunno who else was up for discussion), and as best I can tell he keeps his vote on Yorick the whole time, who is 100% getting banned, and never bothers to back up his ban graves ban graves schtick with a vote to help ban graves, that could easily be spared off the yorick ban. MZ in another post. Not good in the hands of scum as in "it's not good if they get it either but it's the lesser of two evils". I am very good at awkwardly wording things so that people end up misunderstanding me :> | ||
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On December 04 2013 11:31 bumatlarge wrote: Also, people asking me to defend myself. I can't really defend myself for fakeclaiming role-denial. I like to be risky when I get the chance in mafia. This probably would have come back to bite me later, but this is much sooner then I expected, I was hoping to lead a lynch onto scum before I had to say anything. No follow. What do you mean fakeclaiming role-denial? | ||
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Are you mafia? | ||
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EBWOP: this means aligned with mafia/part of mafia, not that you are literally mafia. | ||
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And I was so hoping you'd be town. Sigh. | ||
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On December 05 2013 06:52 marvellosity wrote: Before I go for my shower, could we have a more interesting ranking system for scumminess please? 1-5 so boring. I want to replace these 5 tiers with the following: No strawberries (extremely scummy) Strawberries on their own (mildly scummy) Strawberries and sugar (null) Strawberries, sugar, and cream (kinda townie) Strawberries, sugar, and cream; with champagne (very townie) Why would you ruin delicious strawberries with sugar and cream by adding champagne. | ||
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On December 05 2013 07:00 justanothertownie wrote: A fair point. Do you have anything else to say? You know... game relevant? Uhm, I'm gonna shoot all of my glorious 50 KP at scum tonight, does that count? | ||
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On December 05 2013 07:03 justanothertownie wrote: So, which scummer do you shoot? Currently Austinmcc as he lied to me when I asked if he was scum (proclaimer: this could change at any time for any reason or no reason at all). | ||
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On December 05 2013 07:07 marvellosity wrote: Rean, why are you playing like you are? Are you purposefully trying to make town lose? Because that's how it feels right now. What gives? Not everyone has to play the same way you play or the way you think they should play. I'm most certainly not trying to make town lose. | ||
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On December 05 2013 07:24 marvellosity wrote: Yes, you are directly trying to make town lose with the way you are playing. I never suggested that you have to play how I think you should play. However, fundamentally speaking the game is about lynching mafia, and the primary responsibilities for a townie are Finding and lynching mafia Establishing your towniness You are not doing this, therefore you are effectively directly playing against your win condition if you are town. I think you are confusing "playing against your own win con" with not actively pursuing victory by analyzing in the thread. Playing against your own win con would involve trying to prevent people from winning the game by constantly derailing conversation or using roles to kill town/prevent mafia from dying (assuming you are aware they're town/mafia). What I'm doing is simply not constantly analyzing in thread/making reads etc. I'm still trying to find scum, and am going to shoot the person I think is scum. If he doesn't die (likely with my next to nothing kp) and I still believe he is scum I will try to have him lynched instead. | ||
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On December 05 2013 07:34 justanothertownie wrote: Like you tried to lynch him yesterday? Yesterday I did not yet believe he was scum. | ||
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On December 05 2013 07:41 justanothertownie wrote: I take that back. I got confused by the time stamps. Still you had to have a scumread on him to ask this question or are you telling me your read is based only on this trolly answer? I mean you have to know somehow hat he told you a lie. He made a "case" on me that I found odd. I looked further into him, asked him about his alignment and decided he was scum. | ||
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Could be a hidden ability but yeah, Annie is the only revealed ability that'd do this. | ||
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On December 05 2013 11:39 geript wrote: I can't find the post. But I remember (imagined?) a post where someone took 215 damage, but I can't find in on my phone. I remember thinking that person responded with incredulity but wasn't really motivated to change his actions/behavior. I remember thinking "that has to be town KP because of the target." But the scummy thing was that the person didn't really try to change despite being lynchbait. The incredulity doesn't bother me it was the fact that it wasn't more than just "I've been shot" If this was a hallucination please let me know. I think you mean me taking 225 damage. | ||
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On December 05 2013 11:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: This guy needs to be targeted with all the town KP until he dies. Care to explain why? | ||
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On December 05 2013 11:58 VisceraEyes wrote: I just lost my job. I may or may not have time for this. Definitely not until next phase. Sorry guys. That sucks man ._. But it's understandable, RL > Mafia anytime. GL finding a new one atleast | ||
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On December 05 2013 12:30 Risen wrote: I was roleblocked. I'm fucking shocked. Oh wait no I'm not because we mass claimed and scum knows who to target with roleblocks. Abilities and Resolution HP is the ONLY notification you will be receiving unless otherwise specified; players are not informed if their abilities landed, if they are roleblocked, healed/shielded/hit with KP/etc. | ||
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On December 05 2013 12:35 OdinOfPergo wrote: Basically each team of players has a team name. Pohmanduu, Faker etc are on SKT. Doublelift is on CLG (Counter Logic Gaming.) Yes, my message tells me I'm Doublelift but doesn't mention CLG at all. I think the whole team or no team thing is random, not scum failing at fakeclaiming. | ||
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On December 05 2013 12:39 Mocsta wrote: U mean Rean right? <regarding Risen and the RB> Geript mentioned it and I went ahead and quoted the OP to confirm it. | ||
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On December 05 2013 12:41 Risen wrote: How is that a catch? Resolve - At night, you chain target player to you and also mason him non-anonymously. Abilities that affect one of you also affect the other. (Abilities that fit the 'Items/trap' designation do not follow this rule.) Lasts 2 phases. I'm obviously not masoned right now. I was obviously roleblocked. Your target could've been jailed. You weren't necessarily RB'd. | ||
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On December 05 2013 12:46 Risen wrote: Jailed = RB in this case. What jailer sees my play d1 and goes, "Mafia are going to shoot Risen."? I meant that your target could've been jailed or it could've been Ahri spirit rushing away. Not necessarily someone blocking you (though you're right that no sane town player would roleblock/jail a Karma). | ||
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Still waiting, Rayn. | ||
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On December 05 2013 13:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: You are beyond useless and most likely scum. You really wanna make a fool out of yourself two games in a row trying to discern my alignment? | ||
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On December 05 2013 13:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: fuck i need to learn to read. This VE taking damage and being healed is interesting. I need to check the roles when i have slept a bit. Seems like more people took damage than there are damage dealing roles. Something seems fishy. People with vanilla roles can still do some damage (Like yours truly). 5 people taking damage doesn't seem all that crazy. | ||
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On December 05 2013 13:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah all vanilla roles cooperated and hit same people. This dude is sco scum. Nothing he says makes sense. ##Vote: Rean Did it ever even cross your mind that maybe not everyone that took damage has said so, either because they're not actually here or because they don't want to? Take Austinmcc who I hit, he hasnt been here yet and barring any roleblock/jailing shenanigans he should be taking atleast 50 damage. | ||
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On December 05 2013 13:27 VisceraEyes wrote: Mafia (or whoever hit me) knows how much I was hit for. I think you should say how much you healed me for. Or did I miss that? He said he doesn't know how much he heals for I believe. | ||
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[QUOTE]On December 05 2013 13:25 Rean wrote: [QUOTE]On December 05 2013 13:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: [QUOTE]On December 05 2013 13:13 Rean wrote: [QUOTE]On December 05 2013 13:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: fuck i need to learn to read. This VE taking damage and being healed is interesting. I need to check the roles when i have slept a bit. Seems like more people took damage than there are damage dealing roles. Something seems fishy.[/QUOTE] People with vanilla roles can still do some damage (Like yours truly). 5 people taking damage doesn't seem all that crazy.[/QUOTE] Yeah all vanilla roles cooperated and hit same people. This dude is sco scum. Nothing he says makes sense. ##Vote: Rean[/QUOTE] Did it ever even cross your mind that maybe not everyone that took damage has said so, either because they're not actually here or because they don't want to? Take Austinmcc who I hit, he hasnt been here yet and barring any roleblock/jailing shenanigans he should be taking atleast 50 damage.[/QUOTE should have waited for him to appear and say how much damage he took before announcing you hit him IMO dislike oats, hopped on and went off old info on lsb instead of discussing the new info. i understand if has a read on ls, but i dont like ignoring the info we just got on kp/ deaths[/QUOTE] I already announced I'd be shooting him during the night and already claimed my KP before that. | ||
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On December 05 2013 13:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: If this is your reason for hitting austin while having done anything else in the game you deserve to die based purely on this. 1. Explain your hissyfit about me saying vanilla has KP too because, despite reading your post ten times over, I still don't have a damn clue what you were trying to say. 2. Stop saying "you deserve to die". Makes it sound like you'd want me dead for reasons other than being mafia. | ||
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On December 05 2013 14:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes and your filter lacks even that. Why didn't you shoot yourself? By your definition you are 1000x scummier than austin. Why didn't you shoot Coag? Also you have yet to give the scumreads. You have been here. You have been reading. I am expecting at least 3 scumreads with reasoning. Other people than lurkers. I did not shoot myself as this would be playing against my win condition. I did not shoot Coag as I have no idea what alignment he is and his filter isn't helping me discern this. I have been reading yes, although I didn't read half of D1 (mainly the Bum/LSB scum part). I can't comply with your 3 scumreads demand (I'm gonna assume you meant no lurkers + not anyone already being accused by someone else cus you'll cry that I'm sheeping). All I have on my own is Austin, although I don't like that you keep avoiding me asking you to clarify your earlier posts. | ||
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On December 05 2013 14:14 jaybrundage wrote: Hmm I was gonna defend Rean. But I took a quick gander at his filter and I understand why your going after him. While I liked his early posts his posts have continued to stay contentless. Rean DO SOMETHING. Look thru some filters make a case. Your dead weight for town atm. How's that grass tasting today? | ||
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On December 05 2013 14:28 jaybrundage wrote: Are you kidding? Your not even going to try to play this game to the best of your ability. You gonna make a dumb sheep joke that's not even relevant. I was planning to defend you because I thought your Doublelift impersonations were genuine. In a post an hour ago or so I told Rayn that you were town and to lay off you. But you obvious need the pressure. While you may be town. You have contributed close to nothing. Rayn has everyone right to be pressuring you. Hows this for sheep ##Vote Rean Oh and by the way the grass tastes like shit or maybe that's just your posting. Why so tense? It's just a joke, no need to flip your shit I already told you who I think is mafia. But if you'd like a reminder: ##Vote: Austinmcc | ||
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On December 05 2013 14:32 Chezinu wrote: Hey guys, I'm kind of new to this game and am a total noob. Is Cho'Gath an easy character to go up against and kill? Does a noob like me have a chance? Not easy to kill at all no, known for being one of the tankiest champs in the game. May I ask why you'd require this information? | ||
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On December 05 2013 14:43 jaybrundage wrote: Im a bit annoyed because you don't seem to be trying. Your case on austin seems nonexistent. Hes a lurker you asked him a question and you called him scum. My only thinking that you could have any validity to your case on austin is if you have a blue roll that gives you a check. But even then it would have been in the day time and that seems unlikely. Please try..... Plz? So you're asking me to try when it's obvious you're not even reading my posts Don't you think this is slightly hypocritical on your part? | ||
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On December 05 2013 14:46 kushm4sta wrote: @rean i want to try to save you from the noose. please explain why you are trolling. dig down deep and describe where this trolling is coming from all of a sudden, because you didn't start out the game with the intention of being a troll it looks like. I wouldn't say I have been trolling with my latest posts. D1/early N1 I wasn't taking it very seriously, mainly out of annoyance that in a game with so many cool roles I got stuck with something that's next to useless. But I think I'm doing fairly decently now, explaining who I think is scum and why. | ||
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On December 05 2013 13:39 Rean wrote: 1. Explain your hissyfit about me saying vanilla has KP too because, despite reading your post ten times over, I still don't have a damn clue what you were trying to say. 2. Stop saying "you deserve to die". Makes it sound like you'd want me dead for reasons other than being mafia. Still waiting Rayn. | ||
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On December 05 2013 15:18 Mig wrote: I thought about it for a long time actually. First considered kassadin but was afraid it already be taken. So I started considering tankier roles like taric but figured townies around the 8-15 would pick him and didn't want to take a role away. So started looking at kp roles, saw that cho had a 7 on the rankings for health in the op so picked him. Also, figured knowing how much hp someone has is a lot more valuable for mafia so thought there was a good chance one of them would try to take it later on and end up vanilla. I don't understand the bold part, could you explain please? ^^ | ||
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On December 05 2013 15:22 Mig wrote: Under the section that talks about each hero and their role there is a link to a LoL page that shows how much each heroes attack/health is etc. That's just rankings Riot gave the champions so new players can have a rough idea of what the champion does, it isn't actually related to Mafia in any way x) Though I can see why you did it. | ||
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On December 05 2013 15:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: stfu and give those reads. I don't need to explain anything to you until you start scumhunting and not hiding behind bullshit. I already answered your point about reads. Answer my question please. | ||
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On December 05 2013 15:48 kushm4sta wrote: kind of having second thoughts about rean. My doubt centers around his "kill yourself" butthurt (sorry to bring up thread drama but it's relevant to my read). I realized I played a game with him before on another site. In that game he was pretty vulgar, calling people shit, retarded, etc. So considering that, his "kill yourself" butthurt (dont mean this in an offensive way but i cant think of another word for it) seems really out of place. Different forum, different place. I wouldn't take anything said on OMGUS seriously, ever. TL is, atleast from what I remember, far more civilized, hence why I lashed out at Roffles for his comment. | ||
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On December 05 2013 16:04 kushm4sta wrote: @rean why would the behavior offend you if you yourself have acted similarly? I just don't like the "kill yourself" part, to me that's crossing a line. I can accept calling others retarded/shit etc, but not that. | ||
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On December 05 2013 16:05 Oatsmaster wrote: i dont see how the atmosphere, which is a subjective thing, makes a difference. Perhaps Roffles feels TL is also a relaxed place. You didnt even ask him why he would post something so 'offensive' He's an editor, he should know what it's like >.> | ||
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On December 06 2013 02:34 sandroba wrote: @mig I know it's reaching, that's why I'm pushing austin instead of rean. But his comment on me being town because of my kha'six comment, the austin vote on rean - posting a wrong meta comparison, then rean decides austin is scum today, toghether with the fact that I said kha'six would be taken high by scum and rean delayed a lot to say who he chose all fit together so nice. Seems like a silly bus / fake grudge between those two. So, lemme get this straight: I was the one who originally called Austin scum when he was under no real pressure, even being included on town lists by some people, and you think I was bussing? That my entire gameplan as scum is to do nothing useful except for bussing a teammate that was under no actual suspicion? And I claimed my VTness immediatly after the nightpost. I waited with saying who I picked incase someone below me would try to claim Lux, but VE ended up claiming it and I came forward with what I tried to pick. I like how most of the people accusing me here are just saying "omg rean so useless kill him doesnt matter if scum cus useless anyway lol". Brilliant reasoning, guys. The only one trying to think beyond that is Sandroba who pulled out a conspiracy that'd make the 9-11 conspirators proud. Gonna go back to being useless now because apparently you guys just want to kill me even if I do find you scum. | ||
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On December 06 2013 03:05 justanothertownie wrote: Nope, it contains your reads on the vets as far as I can see? Rean, the reason people want to kill you is exactly this attitude. So what do you want me to do? I find you scum, point out why, half the town is now voting for him and apparently unanimously agree he is scum, but people still want me dead. Compare that to Rayn who has 20+ pages of filter but keeps tunneling me, a fucking vt player, and everyone sucks him off claiming he's uber-town. Look through my eyes and tell me that isn't total bullshit. | ||
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On December 05 2013 13:58 Rean wrote: @Rayn, I "shot" (50 KP is barely worthy of that term when people have over fifteen times the hp) Austinmcc for his filter, not my question. His filter is full of reads but at no point did I get the impression that he's actually trying to get people lynched rather than just giving out reads on anything he can find. That is why I am suspecting Austin, not the random exchange we had. | ||
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On December 06 2013 03:24 sandroba wrote: @rean I agree with that little line you commented about austin, but do you think that comment is enough to mobilise the whole town into lynching austin? Have you filtered yourself? Do you think you are trying to get people lynched? Do you think people can see that by looking at your filter? I just don't understand your frustration when people are finding you suspicious for the same reason you outlined as scummy behavior? I don't know what more I can do then giving people my thoughts/reasoning on him and voting for him. The only other thing I can do is wait for others to read my arguments and agree/disagree so we can reach a better conclusion. Or perhaps I should just do as Rayn does and go around yelling at people repeatedly until they agree with me. | ||
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On December 06 2013 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why are you so defensive? Your scumread is getting lynched. Correct me if I'm wrong but willingly allowing yourself to be shot/lynched as town to prove a point is going against your win condition. Though I suppose with your play in BttB you probably don't agree on that. | ||
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On December 06 2013 03:50 Chezinu wrote: I know! It's like only mafia can fakeclaim an ability that actually happens! ...unless koshi masoned an inventor... What I do know is that you definietly didn't make it and neither did I. I know what you did last night. You did nothing of importance you lazy So what you're getting at is Koshi, being scum, claimed to pick Viktor but actually left it for one of his scumbuddies down the line while he picked another role? | ||
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On December 06 2013 04:19 jcarlsoniv wrote: He posted about what it does: Which...I'm a little confused about. It's like a parity checker/murder thing. But it's only really good for the town if we are certain of alignments, right? Unless I'm misunderstanding something, if we aren't sure if someone is scum, how can we be sure we'd be accurate with this item? You can't be 100% certain. However, no matter how it is used it gives us a ton of info eith.er way. If it ends up killing someone, the other 2 are of the opposing alignment of the dead person. If no-one dies player Y + Z are same alignment. | ||
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On December 06 2013 11:53 austinmcc wrote: Yes. He talks about bans. But all he does is say "the anti-town champs are anti-town." Apparently Janna became a topic. No comment on Janna. There were people who had whole number picking schemes. No comment on them. People had lists of champs, who goes high, who goes mid tier, etc. etc. No comment on them. He has a bunch of comments on the bans, but EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM is "anti-town champs should be banned, because they are bad for town." Let alone that he says KP roles are no good for mafia, and that ALL investigations "might as well be useless" if graves is in the game. Kush is seeing things. The ban discussion isn't really discussion at all; it's ban tautology. 1. See a theme here? I was around earlier and then disappeared for a while. I WONDER WHAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED. 2. I was pointing out the champs that serve no purpose to town, only mafia. Don't try and simplify what I said to make me look useless. 3. I already told you that you didn't interpret that correctly. If you bothered to read my damn filter you'd know this. Goes towards showing how much attention you pay. And what I said is certainly true, with Graves ingame checks become a massive WIFOM paradise. srs. | ||
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On December 06 2013 12:26 austinmcc wrote: Almost EVERY game that has DTs in it has godfather/framer/both/whatever. There are VERY VERY VERY few games where you have investigative roles and NO way to mess with checks. The fact that ONE role can mess with a single target each night does not make checks a massive WIFOM paradise or mostly useless. Do you think that you needed to point out champs that serve no purpose to town, only mafia? Did anyone ever disagree and say those champs have town purposes? If a game has a framer in nobody would take checks seriously until there's 100% confirmation it wasn't framed. Godfather isn't so bad, it makes town checks unreliable but mafia checks are still useful. Yes, I did think I needed to as we were discussing bans and I made clear/argued for what I wanted banned. | ||
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On December 06 2013 15:05 Mocsta wrote: I wish Chez slot had more post history. Chez, are you fiddlesticks? Chez is most likely Twisted Fate. He posted a pic of TF saying he liked the outfit and also apparently has tracker information of atleast 5 people, and Twisted Fate is well-known for his ultimate which gives him full vision of the enemy team for 8 seconds. | ||
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On December 07 2013 08:58 Coagulation wrote: whoa..whoa who you calling a bitch ass trolling motherfucker? I believe that'd be you. You just gonna take that? | ||
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On December 07 2013 16:45 Rean wrote: Well, fuck, now I have to go find scum again. This is frustrating. Do you even say again? I'm not sure if again would be appropriate if I didn't actually find scum the first time. | ||
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On December 08 2013 02:45 Mocsta wrote: {Kush, Rean, gtrsrs, Mocsta, Oats, jaybrundage} all all known VTs. My suggestion: Go with *your* gut. It is your power after all. If you had to ask me: Out of that list I would probably only consider Oats or myself personally -- maybe gtrsrs Kush - I think is scum Rean - Doesnt give a shit about the game gtrsrs - Might give a shit about the game if has a hero. Waste of a power I think though Oats - Seems town Jaybrundage - Suspicious votes / lurky Do you think that, given an item with such a powerful ability, I'd just not use it or something? | ||
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On December 08 2013 02:49 Mocsta wrote: Nah, I already lean town on you, so you being a hero doesn't affect my read on you. The point being that if you became a hero I don't think you would do anything more to drive the thread towards a successful lynch. Evident by your delurk to this post :p I don't quite follow. Does it matter how much I'd do to have people lynched afterwards? All that matters is it ends in the hands of a townie. Since the item use is entirely public anyone could follow up on what happens. For what it's worth, if I had it I'd use it like: baby = scumread, mother x = me, mother y = scumread. In that case, if I die both are scum, if I was wrong about baby mother Y will die, if I was wrong about mother y or even both no-one dies. | ||
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On December 08 2013 12:01 LSB wrote: As per how you explained how the crown works, you and MZ should be the same alignment... The crown will only kill someone if you two are not the same alignment. Unless mkfuba07 comes back explaining that he chose different targets, or we get confirmation that the crown works differently than how you explained it, I'm just going to accept the fact that you two are of the same alignment. Considering I only see one person dead in the daypost (and it doesn't appear to me that you are in PM communication with mkfuba07) I am going to take this as a soft green confirmation on Koshi, mkfuba07 as well as MZ Read Marv Jr's description of the item he got, it is quite different and essentially guarantees that someone ends up dead. | ||
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On December 08 2013 14:48 Coagulation wrote: So scum isnt really interested in pushing the coag mislynch wagon now that he gots a nuke.. is that what im picking up here? Idk what's funnier, you calling it a nuke or someone actually giving it to you x) | ||
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If I only could. Imagine the fun we would have :> | ||
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Gut feeling. But I guess we'll know once that bomb goes boom. | ||
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You just went full retard man. Never go full retard. | ||
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On December 08 2013 16:56 mkfuba07 wrote: Your gut feeling is that Koshi and I concocted a maniacal plan to take inventor, claim to make an item that does one thing, later claim that it does a slightly different thing, and then have it not do anything at all? And this isn't just me and koshi, this is marv and koshi. You think this is a plan that marv would agree to? What reaffirmed your gut feeling here? 1. Yes. 2. I don't remember. | ||
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Oh and some people were asking who shot who: I shot Coag last night. | ||
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On December 11 2013 10:06 justanothertownie wrote: All abilities that would have hit you hit your clone instead. I think that includes alignment checks. Can someone tell me why we assume mkfuba was roleblocked because his ability didn't work? If he tried to use item + ability that might have been too much. Didn't people say you could only do one thing at a time? Would your clone be a different alignment than yourself? | ||
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On December 11 2013 10:06 supersoft wrote: So far everyone had his ult as second abilitie. I am not sure about Leblanc since I don't play her, but mimic is the ult right? Khazix had a lot of abilities and somehow didn't fit in this pattern, too. What's the name of your second abilitie? I got my ult. ziggs got his ult Ahri/Mundo and prolly way more have their ult as 1st ability. | ||
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