EPTI obviously didn't have the river warded.
/obs
PYP: League of Legends Mafia
| Forum Index > TL Mafia |
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I obviously didn't have the river warded. /obs | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
/in | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Koshi is assassin. Lynch with fire. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
o/ Jayyy! I'm totally giving solely us credit for this. hehehe. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Roffles is off the hook. lynch the Mocster. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Yes they might be nice for mafia early on in the game by denying early checks... But really... if you're playing a scum agenda... you're going to get busted for it. The same way a Godfather gets busted for it. It's 100% the same principle. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
On November 30 2013 12:51 Rean wrote: You're aware that there's no way for us to known that those champs would be picked so we can't just bust them for it? Yes. But think of a un-themed game. You are not notified that a God father, Roleblocker, etc. is in the game... However you come to realize the fact before all to long usually ye? I mean I could be wrong but my gut instinct is to ban champs like Ahri, Amumu, Blitz, etc. Champs that could change the order that towns actions hit. Champs that could reduce the # of votes (IE specifically Amumu) on a scum vs town Lynch wagon could potentially be catastrophic. Feel free to discuss. We do have 23 hours.. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Being delayed two phases for flip results is sooooo useful to the mafia. Yet it's completely useless to town. Scum know who town are. Townies benefit from this ability in no way. Ban this champion. ##Ban: Yorick | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I agree with the point about graves. Being able to have a townie return a red check is really bad for the town. This ability would make fake cases against townies be a lot stronger granted people believed a fake cop claim. We should strongly consider banning him. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
On November 30 2013 12:47 Rean wrote: In that case, I'd like to declare myself as the best player in the game and you all suck. I have to agree with jay at this point. Rean's post are obv Liftlift impersonations. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I get that town would want townies first scum last... But short of knowing their #'s and picking them placing both of you at the back of the queue... I'm not sure how you'd hope to accomplish this. Maby you can fill me in on your thoughts if I've misread the OP.. Also to note, even if there is a way to accomplish this we probably shouldn't spread numbers around (especially second #'s) until way late in the phase to ensure that the scum don't just sacrifice to place the stronger townies at the back of the Q with themselves. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
You should just quote your previous post... that hurts my eyes c.c | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Also do expand on how it makes me bad. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I don't think it's a terrible idea. I will however stand by my previous statement. Yes we could try to force scum to play from the end of the Q in a risk of a lynch.. but they could also try to push a agenda for a mislych on a (I'm going to go out on a limb here) a townie that's probably going to lurk for the first 30 hours. (IE, Mocsta has already said he will be afk for the first 30 or so hours. From the past few games I've played I have a strong belief that several others will probably not be around immediately either. All the while an active mafia member could pull enough townie points to be high in the order regardless. But from your perspective I can see the relevance of this. Scum can just play pro-townie in the picks/bans phase to get a high #. There is no reason we shouldn't do something to at least try to fight for the slots instead of not doing anything. @Geript Ok. It seems like you don't play League. So I hope you don't take this response as aggressive because I really don't intent it to be that way. If you're not one of SKT's members then you're town. Thus Rean being Doublelift makes him not scum. We can't say this is for sure because it's so early in the game. Rean's roleplaying Lift doesn't mean that he is ACTUALLY Liftlift. Jay just clarified his stance on this in a previous post above this.. I'm inclined to follow the same logic here. Either I can believe that Rean is fake claiming Doublelift (Liftlift or w/e nickname... just wiki SKT for their members... anyone not on that list is not scum. We should probably clarify if it's the S3 roster or the new S4 roster.. I'm assuming SKT T1 roles are based off of currently members when they played in the World Finals? And shit up the thread 3 hours into picks/bans by claiming he is scum.. Or I can just roll with it and try to feel out players in this game as they become active. Sub version would be: We can't know Rean's alignment off what he has post. You can take his statement with a grain of salt and focus on moving the thread forward. Or you can take his statement with a grain of salt and clog up the thread. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I'll have to think about it for a while.. But we should at least do something to try to fight for slots. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
100% bans should be Yorick and Graves at least. Yorick - Delaying flip results for a night is disastrous for the town. This ability is strait terrorizing for the town. This champ needs banned 100%. Yes, if he gets picked we will know the first time he uses his ability.. But we will then have to try to pick out which summoner is using him. Town looses so much information any cycle Yorick uses this. This champ needs banned. Graves - Returning opposite alignment checks is sooooo bad for town. This ability is in no way, shape, or form useful to the town. It only serves the mafia. The only hesitation I'd have against this ban would be the fact that the scum would have to be convincingly town to have their results held up by the town during a lynch. We have strong players here. We should just ban this champ. I'm still in the air about the third ban so I'll spare posting about it for now. Alright though, it's really late and the threads died out for the moment anyway.. So I'm off to sleep. I'll be back after work tomorrow. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
so.. ##Ban Yorick ##Ban Graves Is the ##ban format acceptable for bans or does it need to be ##vote? | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
OK Goodnight! | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I just scimmed over the thread to get a idea of what happened since last night. Current thoughts on the last ban should probably go between Twitch, Urgot, or Eve. Urgot and Twitch is pretty scary for the town due to a scum team just sitting back and hitting people with missiles/vemon. Then all the sudden we would end up with stronger townies all being hit at once by expunge, with an increased KP from Urgot. Promptly followed up by whatever else scum pick up. Either of these champions by themselves is really bad for the town. Either one of them lets scum hit townies with abilities and we wouldn't even know about it. We can't ban both but we should definitely get rid of one of them. Eve for obvious reasons. What kind of scum wouldn't enjoy being able to dmg a townie scott free. It's not like you have to worry about traps. Worse ontop of that is it would seem that checks would return VT from her. (This is assuming I'm interpreting the watcher/tracker statement correctly.) | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
But it's been brought up before.. His town play is hyper aggressive and thus far the only real issue I have floating about is the Oats/Marv/Rayn exchange earlier on. But I don't think it's enough for me to call any of that group scum yet. So I'm curious on where your thought process here is.. Are you just policy lynching him? | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
That being said go into his filter and I think you'll be able to tell his motives. He's less than blunt in stating them (Which is probably half the reason people were up in arms in the first place.) | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
But I'm not going to give that thought much credit yet. I mean we still have people who have less than 5 post or no post at all. If it continues into D1 I might consider it meaningful but half of the last 24 hours have been useless banter/chit-chat realistically speaking. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Soniv might have just now voiced his opinion, but plenty of other people have got into ruffs with Rayn to this point too.. The last thing we need is to start a riot right before the day starts. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
That sounded like a border-line personal attack. What other than Soniv lurking hard this phase and disliking Rayn makes you think he is scum? You should post this instead of directed attack that isn't doing anything. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
He himself just said that it's not that strong of a scum read. So you're 100% sure he's worth a vig shot because disliking Rayn makes him 100% scum? That's really bad circle logic. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Yes. I'm obv scum. We should lynch Odin D1. I'm soft defending people Soniv because he has like ... 6? something post since this game started? Oh yes. I'm going to call him scum because of it? No, I'm going to prod Soniv to go back and come up with a better reason than "It's easy". | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I did tell you why I defended Soniv underneath it. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Specifically calling out town Kass/Quinn for the mafia to know doesn't sound like a good idea to me at all. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Well, let's see what happens. I'm off for now~ | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Off to sleep. I'll be back around tomorrow evening. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I feel like that's a pretty far stretch from where we are though. It would be really useful for us townies in the lower brackets to know who not to pick as well so the town gets more power roles. Because other than this plan I feel like there is a pretty good probability that most of the bottom bracket is going to get jinxed out of roles. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I could see the benefit of getting more blue roles into the game still. But it does bring up the issue that there are some roles out there you probably don't want mafia to know who has right away. So with that logic the problem with this idea is that if most claim mafia can stab at the odd ones out that don't. I feel like this is a all or nothing and at this point I don't honestly think we have enough time to get everyone on the same page either. So ye, my conclusion is we shouldn't do this. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I'm only hesitant on it know because there are still a lot of people that aren't here... So what's the point in like 10% of us guessing and still ending up vanilla? | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
On December 02 2013 09:36 Koshi wrote: If people are wondering why I wont be posting much. 1) I am awesome. 2) I am first pick and got Viktor. I will make items that are pro town. 3) I crumbed my player name. 4) I crumbed my LoL team. 5) I am awesome. Wait, so you got a fancy teamname along with a player name? I'm jealous now. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
On December 01 2013 12:12 OdinOfPergo wrote: Yeee... something tells me I'm going to end up playing as a generic VT. Well, let's see what happens. I'm off for now~ I hate when I am right. I don't see an overwhelming use for Karma as scum so I'm going to write this off as a afk townie pick for now but if no one gets a mason claim pretty early I'm going to be skeptical. She is a non-anno. mason after all. You'll know who it is if she masons you. Karma is in the game. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
You could have Vorpals..... dmg/heal a self shield? could be for others in purpose of mafia since you said you have a "scummy" ability or a global (Game wide?) reduced KP. which could go either way. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
You and your allies can heal off of attacking anyone with this effect on them. So it could be really good if you consider the teamwork factor. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Their anti votes. At least this still gives us an easy means to track this. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
So do you mean to say you have a extra we haven't heard of or? | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
are you caster or tank? | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I think all VT's should out the pick they were aiming for. This lets players know that that champion is in the game. Unless they fake claim VT we can assume that said champion is in-fact in the game and work off that info. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Either that or he has no other dmg than to move through players. In which case what is your other ability? I'm so not convinced by LSB's statement here. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
My thoughts: Jay Also, I haven't brought this up yet becuase I haven't come to a strong conclusion... but I'll re-read tomorrow after I get home from work but I wanted to mention it now that the day has started.. I don't get the worse vibes from him, and I haven't looked into his meta at all. That being said though.. Anytime this case of scenarios happens I'm going to be iffy. Jay pulls the noob card a few times. Why as town would you want people to think you're not worth listening too? You mention several times that your new to PYP. Once... Mehhhhh bad tells but w/e... Twice..? Are you trying to discredit yourself to the rest of the town? I mean past that you're just trying to have opinions without being holdable to those opinions. Pushing a wishy washy case again Marv "He could be scum, maby not, maby so, maby not." For pure meta reasons? Common dude, I expected a lot more out of you. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Specifically Oats/ Marv but seeing as my main attention draw to them is the lack of in-activity and posting not much of... er... anything. I'll have to go re-read tomorrow after I get back from work to come to conclusions. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Anyway. I'm not strong on either of them yet so give me until tomorrow evening to expand on my thoughts here. I might just be trying to way over think things concerning them. Anyway, goodnight folks. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I'll read into it tomorrow. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I'll be around for a little while tonight but I'll be around pretty early tomorrow. I'm jump into filters after a short break and summarize my thoughts. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I'm currently going through Kush's filter again and I didn't like his post before and I really don't like them now. Will write a case on it. Oats still doesn't look fantastic to me but I can't remember anything jumping out to much at me from my catch-up read. But that's sort of my problem. I had a null read on him before and the fact he hasn't done anything to change it worries me. Will post my thoughts or correct this statement later tonight. I don't like LSB. I will have to go through but the only thing I can remember this guy saying in this game is "ROLL CLAIM" The issue I have with this isn't the fact LSB is advocating a roll claim. I'm obv not against it (I roll-claimed immediately after day post..) But the lack of doing basically ANYTHING other than it. Oh well I think if I remember correctly he called Rayn scummy. Actually ye pretty sure it was him. That doesn't make any sense at all. For recent affairs I'll jump through Mocsta/ Geript filters in a bit (if I end up having the time I'm assigning myself a lot of task all the sudden >:O!) But ye, so far the only real issue I've had with Mocsta was the bit of a fight that took place. Not sold on this idea yet. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Seriously, we don't need an update every hour. Spamming the thread with this idea is just stupid. You've been VERY vocal with it. WE GET IT. All's I'm going to take these post as is spam. If you UPDATE something in-between them alright. But if you're saying the exact same thing ctrl c, ctrl v. You're just derailing conversation. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
This seems really odd to me. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I'll post my case and look into LSB filter since he's getting a lot of heat right now too and I already don't like him. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Mmk, so for the immediate 180 contradiction. + Show Spoiler + On December 02 2013 07:56 kushm4sta wrote: nooo i wanted to bypass this part Per your opening statement I assume you actually intend to play this game? Post like these don't seem to say that at all. + Show Spoiler + On December 02 2013 07:57 kushm4sta wrote: this is my policy atm: someone tell me what to do. On December 03 2013 00:08 kushm4sta wrote: hey so i replaced onlyawonderboy. please direct me to any important posts/filters. I will give my opinion on anything. ATM im going to go read mocsta's filter. This post is important to me in retrospect. You're digging through Mocsta's filter when you haven't even bothered to read the thread for any context at all. Ontop of that your basing your read entirely off of meta purposes. Or at least Kush is saying that here. You give ONE quote for your whole read? + Show Spoiler + On December 03 2013 00:28 kushm4sta wrote: haha oats how can you blame someone for ignoring you.. you are shitposting. I read about half of mocsta's filter and I have him as solidly town. He is approaching reads differently from how he did it in his scumgame. I feel like this line is protown and im assuming an accurate description of gtrsrs: You follow that up with some flimsy case on Kurumi. Even you know your case on Kurumi is trash. You decide Soniv and Guitar are both obv town without explaining yourself at all. I'm not sold on Koshi but at this point he's made more of an arguement trying to get pressure onto Kurumi than you even hope to do with this. Why did it take you 20 minutes to give a short paragraph on why you thought Soniv was town? You spend all of a grand single two line quote as your reasons for town on Guitar. + Show Spoiler + On December 03 2013 00:51 kushm4sta wrote: *Snip KURUMI: SCUM JCARL: TOWN GTRSRS: TOWN (tooscummytobescum) On December 03 2013 06:33 kushm4sta wrote: hey koshi why did you sheep my shitty kurumi case? I actually agree with Kurumi here. This is too obvious. Kush hasn't even read the thread yet. Some fluffy questions that seem agreeable at first glace but you didn't/will not go anywhere with because it's counterproductive to your alignment. + Show Spoiler + On December 03 2013 01:26 kushm4sta wrote: gl with that opinion. im voting you now. On December 03 2013 01:36 kushm4sta wrote: *Snip didn't even know if people were voting yet. thought it could be night or some fucked up pyp preday phase This post seems reallllly odd to me. I understood it comepletly as context and it just seems like you trying to advert Jonny entirely by claiming a personal attack. How do you misunderstand post like Jonny's in this case when Geript is here? I call complete filler trying to take the easy street out of it. + Show Spoiler + On December 03 2013 06:51 kushm4sta wrote: so marv and ve are light pushing gtr, right? brb I will look into him. @JonnyLaw+ Show Spoiler + Hi I don't know exactly what I did to you but you are coming off as super angry with me, on a PERSONAL level. Like you don't like "my vibe" you said. I am really sorry if I have acted in a way that offended you. If you are more specific with what you don't like about me, I will try to change it. So... after copping out... no personal reads or anything up to this point. As far as I can tell you're comepletely null on Jonny..... and then you do this the moment somone puts a light on him. + Show Spoiler + On December 03 2013 10:19 kushm4sta wrote: k ill vote johnnylaw This is the biggest "Please take the spot light away from me! No one has bent me over backwards yet so SURELY they will just vote Jonny now and forget all about me until night phase." A nail in the coffin for me is after almost 25 hours you STILL admit to not even reading the thread in a response to Marv? I believe it was. + Show Spoiler + On December 03 2013 10:20 kushm4sta wrote: my way is easier (for me) Ye, I believe you're scum. ##Vote:kushm4sta | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
And to note: I don't think the plan was terri-bad just the way he went about executing it makes it seems entirely scum motivated. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
@Kush; Give me a few links to your town/scum games and I'll read them and re-adjust my read on you tomorrow hours before the lynch to adjust. I plan on making a case for a few other people tonight I don't like much aswell so I'm liable to change the vote if my townies really think it's a terrible idea but damn.. If I've ever seen a town matyr himself for such scummy play. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I'll look into the database tomorrow to get an idea of what you two mean but it seems really stupid to be doing this as town. My perspective at least. Either he's solid lynchbait (Which makes me look bad) or he's obv scum. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Let me explain in short words while (hopefully) someone pulls me a draft list page. Claiming the claim page is normally pro town in this scenario... The fact he's done little but it for 3 pages of filter is not town reading at all. Once or twice a phase for the town to keep track of.... Yes we are on the same page. More than that, as per has been explicit by his post... Well I feel like he's using this "pro town" excuse over... and over... and over.... and over... simply to make post. This reads scummy as hell to me. What better way to feign activity than via something townies are going to find annoying but protown via? What has he hadded to discussion? Nothing. When has he advanced town agenda? Never. What does the town have to gain per his posting the same thing a shit ton of times? Nothing. What is the town gaining from his Tryn pick? Umm other than gliding through a few other potential townies right now to prove the fact..... NOTHING. How are you going to use this ability vs scum now that you claimed it? OH YES SCUM BUDDIES LETS RALLY IN A LINE AROUND THE SELF CLAIMED TRYND. This. Is. Retarded. Logic. Actually screw the long winded case against him. I've thoroughly proven I can't "not" write short novels as cases. So to save time and give you guys my opinion... LSB is super scummy right now. If no one is going to get on a Kush vote I might at well move to this. ##Unvote ##Vote: LSB | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
The only issue I have is the Moc/MZ issue that shit up the thread for a few.... Which yes feels feigned but I'm not decided. It seems really off comparing it to a "certain game" that I won't mention farther... but at the same time it's not leading me down a scummy road. Unless people can convince me that Jonny's not just busy the ONLY issue I have with him is the contradictory statement about lurkers and his RESPONSE per a lurker oriented question. I'm totally not going to lynch him right now. Still iffy on Oats but I re-read the last couple responses in his filter tonight and the only thing that makes me feel much better happened after I got back tonight. I could be trying to over read things but I'll decide that tomorrow. For now Oats, I'm going to label you as Null because I actually do need to come to a conclusion before I call you out for it. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
So if anyone has questions/opinions they'd like me to look into get them out in the air now. Otherwise I'll probably filter Geript/Oats. I don't feel good about Geript (Crowd consistence that you're a butt isn't good enough for me.) Oats I feel like I need to re-evaluate per happen stance tonight. I really like the draw to get me to pull into LSB though between you and Rayn. + points for you. Not clear but enough to hopefully give me a unbiased read through tomorrow. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Not to giving anyone who's said this points yet... But per my opinion it really does seem since his "I'll freakin' lynch you" statement he hasn't even bothered to read the thread. He's been in-active for a long time now and I really hope he doesn't replace out because that would be really disappointing per my personal opinion of him. But that is irrelevant. Please play this game Guitar. I was pretty happy when I saw so many familiar faces here... And regardless of how bad this post makes me look I am REALLY saddened by the fact OWB, Nyx, and you are replacing out of it. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Thus points. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
OATS I DEMAND YOU REMANE YOURSELF. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
If you have a response/request I haven't finished my filter on Oats and haven't even on started on you. (Not sure I honestly will make it there tonight considering it's midnight.) I'll glance around while I'm re-reading. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Why would none of his partners not fight for him? Why would he himself pretty much concede and then leave D1? | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
The little exchange between him and LSB doesn't sit right with me in any way. He openly admits he hasn't been reading the thread. Fails to mention anything that's been going on at all since D1 starts when he does pop into the thread. Doesn't like Roffles comment and proceeds to disappear again. Is this how we are suppose to play this game? | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
My interpretation of his post on the previous few pages is that he'd honestly rather lynch LSB. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Which at the end of D1 is reallly bad. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Bum promised to come back like 2 hours before the deadline and give us his thoughts/reads. I think it would help a lot if he chimed in. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
So that leaves Bum and you. Bum doesn't look good and I REALLY dislike his "I'd think I'm scum" comment but I'll touch on that later if he doesn't get lynched tonight. That leaves you Jay. You've brought nothing to this game this entire phase. You don't seem to intend to change that. You've only re-inforced the "Pls don't listen to me I'm bad town" So ##Unvote ##Vote: JayBrundage | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
And if you don't you're going to shoot yourself in the foot tomorrow. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Yes I believe you have a likely chance to flip scum.. but when I re-read your filter I had questions. I don't feel well tonight or I'd have been asking them a few hours back when I first peeked in here. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I think the main defense against his lynch is stupid. My thought on the subject is: People's defense on LSB is mainly; Bum claimed he'd pick Tryn. Unless he's scum together with LSB there is no way LSB would pick Tryn. I find this logic retarted especially after Bum himself said "Any sane townie would never pick Tryn". I mean that statement implies that if he's town, he will infact, not pick tryn. It's how I'm viewing it and to disregard the rest of LSB's post because of it is stupid. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I know this isn't going to be the response anyone wants to hear but it's the truth. I see no point to lie about why I haven't been more active since we're getting closer to the lynch and I'm obviously around but not posting a bunch. I have a splitting migraine and looking at my monitor right now is literally painful. That being said I'm going to check in every so often, vote my next top scum raeds, and lay back down on the couch. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
That's kind of my point. The difference is I am not giving him the benefit of the doubt. Out of the active players half the things he says serve little purpose than to try to look townie without saying anything. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
The only question around him if he is town/scum. And neither would claim right now. Town for reasons I just stated, Scum because why would scum out this role and let the town have control over it? | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I was about to make a post that said this, you saved me some time. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Ye, I actually just went through his filter again and I'm going to correct myself on that. Completely fitting on how I interpret Roffles. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I hope you do ANYTHING this cycle. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
We have 3 townie flips with the resulting modkill on Kurumi. Out of all 3 confirmed town none of them have a team name. Koshi and Rayn both claimed to have a team name. If any other townies got one they should mention this. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Pohmanduu, Faker etc are on SKT. Doublelift is on CLG (Counter Logic Gaming.) | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
The only explanation for certain townies having a team name instead of all of us would be mod specific flavor from the different people writing them. I just think that's a really strange inconsistency to make. But if that is the case there is literally no use for said teamname other than flavor purposes and you should just out it. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
On December 05 2013 12:34 geript wrote: Wait how do you know this? My impression from OP was that only damage dealt was told and that specifically roleblocks were not. No Geript mentions it first pretty sure. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I forgot to put in my night action while I was busy trying to catch up on the thread so I didn't do 50kp to anyone. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
It just lets whoever you helped out confirm you helped them out later. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Obviously we have no way to confirm this yet but it's worth thinking about for consistency sake for D3. (Obviously quiet a few abilities are limited to every so many cycles.) The fact that you where the mason target also means that someone tried to cover you last night to prevent anyone from messing with you. Which I'll have to go re-read abilities to see if it's an obvious role. Pretty good move imo because it made sure people didn't mess you while you made sure no one messed with Koshi while inventing. Also ye, I fail at reading as well. Completely missed that you did go ahead and mention who you healed Ticklish. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I'm pretty curious as to what it does. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
If he was strait up role block we have no way of knowing. Ticklish won't get notified that his heal didn't go through. If Risen masoned you and it didn't go threw that implies his mason was denied. Why would this be other than if someone denied/blocked abilities from hitting you? The other option is what you just said and maby I'm trying to give us to much credit but I'd assume scum would of wanted to try to mess with you. Maby I'm overthinking things and you are completely right. Scum ignored you 100% and just RB'd Risen. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I'll have to think about it later. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Did you get a teamname in your alignment PM? | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Rayn already gave me a answer in D0. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I don't expect him to out whoever he gave it to.. but I do at least want a description for what it does 100%. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
So probably better if he doesn't claim imo. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Anyone can fabricate a team name in a heart beat. This helps us in no way. I am chasing wishful thinking in actually thinking this can help us win the game. Scum could just be like "Curse" as easy as a townie actually honestly responding to it. I'm going to drop this thought entirely now. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I realized it a second ago after my ego went "WTF Rayn this might have merit!" And then I actually thought about it and realized I'm being retarded with that logic. Mainly because I don't have a scum read on you or Mocsta right now. Koshi, meh, maby null. He's not helping in anyway but there is 0 chance of a lynch unless he strait does nothing for all of today. Thus continue to push this arguement does nothing but disrupt the town. I'm being an idiot for trying to dig into it. I have come to understand this. 3 Mods wrote flavors, they will be slightly different. w/e. Progress the game instead of trying to believe something that would be way to easy to lie about(With literally zero chance to prove such). | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
? You can just quote/gimme a page number but I just checked his filter and didn't see him imply that he checked anyone. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Just caught up in the thread... and well, I have some filter diving to do. It will probably take a good bit of time since I want to actually think about what I just finished reading with some thought but I'll try to get it done tonight. My main focus tonight/tomorrow morning will be Austin, Rean, VE, Mocsta. People I'll probably get to in the morning if not tonight include Mocsta (I am somewhere between slight townies/null atm but I want to filter.), Chez (Sadly I have to agree with some people here. I find it next to impossible to read half of what this guy writes and thus to avoid headaches induced by riddles tonight.... Will probably be put on a back-burner for tomorrow.), Onegu (Per his case on me I want to wait and see what else comes out of him. I also don't want to be biased in reading him so I'm strait up not going to write about him tonight.) If people have questions for me I will be around for a while tonight as I have tomorrow off. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Not you. Personal opinion. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Does my game so far this time feel like that to you (Or anyone else)? | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
#1) Who other than basically solely Rayn scum hunted Day 0? This statement is calling me scum for doing the same thing 30/31 players are doing. Do you honestly me expect me to be able to find scum based on 90% of the post during this phase concerning someone specific knowledge on Lol? #2) Your first quote about my LSB vote. Mmk, and if you read my meta... out of every single mafia game I've been in, regardless of alignment, I'm hard pressed for time. How does this make me scum? #3) You skip the rest of my post here. The fact I don't hard push for a different read I acknowledge as being questionable. I also gave a reason in the thread to as why I wasn't doing it. Yes, per Bum's filter I found him as possible scum. I mention that as I had re-read it I was skeptical that he was confirmed scum. So what's wrong with me putting my vote on the only counter wagon that I could get behind at the time? Also was it not obvious that Bum (With like 12-13 votes and LSB, the runner up, was not gaining anyvotes per Sandro's arguement) was going to indeed go through D1? Read my filter. You obviously glanced over it, why are you omitting so much? #4) How was my Kush case bad? Do people honestly believe that? I thought my train of thought was pretty obvious. The only reason I gave it up without a hard push was because my town reads at the time told me to drop it. The main reasoning for dropping it was meta related iirc. What is wrong with me trying to get Kush games to meta read off of? I mention I didn't have time THAT NIGHT to read them. .. . ... Re previous comment that is in this post. Your extra observations. #1) I didn't want to ban talon. K, so you're saying every game that has a scum God-father in it is a insta town loss? I don't believe you at all. I banned my priority bans. Talon wasn't one of them. So what? #2) What's wrong with me adjusting my stance when I think about something? What's wrong with me changing my read on the subject per more than 3/4'th of the thread hasn't actually gone into this plan yet. I say exactly what I meant there. I'm not disagreeing with the plan, just saying unless people get onboard the only thing it is accomplishing is outing roles for mafia to target. This makes me scum.... how? You're next post after that is verifying my point I just made. These post are a train of thought but you're trying to break them up. I don't understand why you are doing it. The fact I was just shooting my thoughts into the thread when they popped into my mind, and you are trying to twist it into a scum read is mind boggling. Your last quote against me. I'm scum for posting a update on my feelings on a player at the time makes me scum? Over-all you're entire case I feel is a bunch of WIFOM and just trying to frame me to look bad. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I don't completely agree with the case agains't you. However your pushing seems so different to me this time around than our last game together. Last game I made one (Honest but drunk) post about how I didn't like you and you pushed me almost to a lynch d1. What changed? Why haven't you done so on anyone this entire game so far? You seem so hesitant to shove a scum read down someone's throat this game. You did it very effectively last game that I was confidant enough to kill you in the night for it. I'm not convinced you're scum yet this game but you're making me question it. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
His reasons aren't strong, but what else could he have even claimed to do if he DIDN'T do as he claimed to do? "Hey guys, Austin is my scum read.. I totally hit xyz with 50kp for no reason" Doesn't make any sense. Why are you giving him town credit for this action when it's the only avenue he left himself? | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
What gives you the impression he is going to push his vote at all? Also, what per his day actions gives him any ability to help lead a scum agenda with his team if he is scum? The only thing I get for it is a easy out later if Austin flips town. (Not convinced of at this point but need to finished filter... Dang I should probably completely ignore the thread and do that but meh. {This is townie Odin saying he don't give a rats if it takes him 10 hours to do huehue [But seriously I will have some reads out tonight pls no lynch until I do]} | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
That's so bad and it's completely ruining the town. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
No you're wrong. How many times has this been implied? | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Do you even think he's a target? Short of lynching the guy he's not going to die. Also I might add that 24 hours (roughly) into D1 he still hasn't added much imo.... he's getting a completely free write off to do nothing. So I'm not even saying your wrong. Just that short of lynching him he's going to to squat. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:27 Onegu wrote: Point one wasnt that big of a deal, yes most people didnt scum hunt. But up until your vote on kush all of your reads are very wishy washy with no firm stances. Why bring it up then? 2. Ok you are hard pressed for time, but the fact is you made a case on LSB where you said you could write much more. But until the rime you unvoted you didn't mention LSB except when it related to roffles interaction with him and only in passing. Never pushed a LSB lynch to the thread. And then you jump off of him because his wagon wasn't going to go through. Seriously? I just told everyone to read my filter. Since no one is inclined let me break it down. Odin - I would have been asking questions much earlier but I have a migraine. Thread - Silence. Odin - Sleeping on the couch...... People can either choose to believe this or not. It is the truth and I will not lye and fabricate false explanations for it. If I'm scum because of it well, you'll know if I was indeed lying when I flip. 3. Please quote what I omitted, I quoted everything relevant to LSB and BUM from the point you put your vote on jay to the lynch. I didmt leave anything out and you saying I did is completely false. Point above??? 4. One you made a case that points to lazy not scum. And its the fact again that you never followed up. You completely drop it, when you later mention your scum reads kush isn't one of them. When I posted my Kush case who said lazy? Let me answer for you: Answer: No One! Let me tell you who told me to drop it because this is usual Kush meta. Answer: Pretty much the entire thread (No one was actively trying to gain traction with me except like one other person... who mentioned it way later... and I also forgot who it was..[yes convenient for me I know!])! 5. The talon thing obviously wasn't a big deal. It was the fact that you thought godfathers are found out anyway as your basis for not banning him. And how do you get me saying whenever scum gets a godfather town auto lose. In no way did I say that, you said they are always found and that's why we shouldn't ban talon. I'm saying sometimes they are found sometimes they aren't, so not banning him based on that is weird. How else am I suppose to interpret your post bring a point against me on not banning a GF? "He didn't ban GF, thus add scum points" ... If you are not implying this is agains't town win condition why bring it up at all? 6. ok this point I misread a bit. I drop this part. I thought you didn't want to do it at all when before you did wamt to do it. My bad. This and only this point conceded. 7. My point is you never have strong feelings on anyone at that point, and you vote someone you don't have strong feelings for. please stop misinterpreting 1/3 page long cases as not strong feelings for" I already mentioned why I thought this. I was already questioned about my vote at the time, I did explain it, and no one said squat against it. I wasn't 100% sure with a Bum lynch.... Thus why is me running on my third read (Behind LSB/Bum ... leaves Jay. I had doubt about Bum so..... LSB/Jay and then Bum!) at the time giving you scum vibes? I dont understand how you think its all wifom and I am trying to frame you. Or how you say I omitted things, I didnt and welcome you to quote what you think I did. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
 The longer it goes on the less I contribute tonight... so will the thread find it really awkwards if I comepletely ignore him until tomorrow to focus on... you know.... important stufff? (As per I intended to do in the first place.............) | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
It looks nice on the surface...but really what new are you adding? What else other than picking easy points on people are you doing? I mean the whole thing says "Pls Looks, I'm contributing" but I don't think you actually are. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I'll be in the thread for a while for as long as I'm awakle if people want opinions on someting. Otherwise, I'm going to get into filters tomorrow morning. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Austincancardinal Is a drifter on the plain of the Sar. his notes on the dark stars from afar, Are quite far from the shining lights of the star. He paints his picture quiet dark.. But wait... Chez believes him to have stumbled on the mark?! I believe Cheza in this case, because he's probably quite right in a case I can't make. He'll explain all this in to time. It will make perfect sense in the twilight, I can't riddles for no fiddles, But I get the conflict of his riddles. I actually mean a lot from this post, so lets see if we can understand each other :D:D | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
They leave me skeptical. The ruins tell me to be wary, But the dunes tell me that I'm on the swell. There is a heavy wave about to crest, But in with it rides a dasting soul. One that rides along with the wave. Trying to fit his mold. The phantom, not ghost tries to follow you! You should show care! But the lock around his neck is wound tight, he would appear harmless, But it's the deadliest threat we know. His name is wound between four players you say you know. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Sooooo mehhhhhh. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Anyone else that can break down my post can code in their response >:O | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Chez might know now. He ignores me though. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
On December 06 2013 14:38 Chezinu wrote: I see the marks. I am being followed. Not by lantern Not by shield Not by 125 KP But by the.. wait that makes no sense. If they be following me, I would know.. but you said wound between.. Who hangs around them? hmm Chez pls. The old ruins tell me to follow the rising star. Above the Ruins a Star swells. The ever growing Moon pulls a great Wave. Amongst this wave a silent Storm brews. He dare not make his virtue known. He simply hides in the wake. Following the calm of the storm, The demon wakes, The have only the warning to forsake. Should we choose unwisely, I believe we solidify our fate. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
 () | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Also, you're wrong about it. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
...\ ... I hate you Chez. Foreva. Pls | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I'll be back in 20 minutes if I freaking feel like it. This is game is retarded, Which is really so sad considering I was really looking fowards to this game, | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
On December 06 2013 15:13 Oatsmaster wrote: what? what? Why are you rage quitting? Its so unwarranted. Explain. Ok! I come into tonight to some rp.. At first it drives me up the wall. And then I think I sort of understand it... so I try to play along... Then I get... er... Followed by some er/// followed by more er/ Why should I even bother tonight? Obviously Iack time tonight/kind of tipsy to make my previous reads tonight... so that leaves chatting it up, explaining myself to ppl to buy omnegu case, and trying to crack Chez posting. I've spent the last hour and a half doing these thing and it's gotten me absolutely.. umm... no where..... Great town. w/e this is annoying as shit. Per previous case agains't me. I like time, and when I'm around this is what I get.... Ummmmmmmm why the hell do I care exactly? Sorry in advance, this post was written with my heart on my sleeve. I pushed off a lot of other thing to be in this game and I just don't believe it's really paying off for me at all at this point. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
The other .... umm.... like half? replaced. So great.. actually I'm just going to shut it because I have very little positive to town and I really hope we 180 tonight. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
On December 06 2013 15:39 Chezinu wrote: Did you just claim mafia? How... the fuck.. is like... a ... ....6 .. . ..... ... post rant on the... abysmal... .. ..... .. ... town.. .. .. .... ...play... (Post break) ... worthy.. ... .. .. . (post break) // .. . Of your freaking lynch? Are you (*&*($^%? | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Lynch me for these post. But if completely ignoring your town win condition is acceptable I don't want to play anymore. Period. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
My first long post in that game was a "drunk post" those previous post by me are strait "I can't believe this is acceptable for a TL Mafia game." | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
No, I was trying to catch up on like 50 pages of filter. I completely forgot to send in my 50 kp. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
But prs I wanna mafia.! | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
| ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
The fact he's his own second vote is him martyring himself because he has no intention to play this game. Would of preferred him to just modkill himself but this is how I see it. And I haven't even read the thread since last night. But I'm going to assume his play goes something like this -> ..... Thread: Kill the Roffles. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I'll try anyway for you. Roffles hasn't put any effort into this game since he signed up for it. He's martyring himself. He's #2 vote on himself... could be scum giving up on D0 and voting himself out on D2... I don't really believe that is an option though because every other mafia player in this thread would have been digging at him to play SOMETHING or they decided to just buss him on D0. That leaves me with my other option.. Roffles is town and has 0 desire to play this game. Thus we get martyr Roffles now. Per my previous post, he should of just modkilled himself as that would leave the town in a clearer position but it's not how it's playing out. But I do believe he's town and just gives 0 cares for this game. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
The most ruffles that Roffles has gotten this game is light defense "This fits usual Roffles attitude" If he was scum I don't believe this would be the case at all. They'd be really prodding at him to actually not get himself lynched so they can win. He's obviously town. | ||
|
OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I will not vote. I will be modkilled at the night post. I really appreciate the effort put into the making this game. I'm really sorry for having to make this choice. The effort from players this game is making it entirely unplayable for me. See ya guys. | ||
| ||
