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Damned, I am going to have to read all the different powers soon. | ||
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I will execute it awesomely. | ||
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ps: I am totes vanilla town | ||
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I want [2,1] | ||
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##unvote ##vote: Graves | ||
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1) Does mafia KP need to be delivered by a member. 2) Is mafia KP RBable | ||
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On December 01 2013 06:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Even if it doesn't synergize with mafia KP it synergizes with KP roles. If I was to hazard a guess mafia would attempt to at least grab some kp roles thus giving them a role that lets them make a vig stronger is something I'd like to avoid. meh, I feel like we should ban heroes that town will never pick but are good for scummers. Jana is not the worst hero for town. It's a doc. | ||
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On December 01 2013 06:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote: true. Its one of the reasons I said janna or urgot. Either or. As far as I see it they are the only two that amp kp unless I missed one. imo yorick should not be banned. but I guess that ship has sailed. Graves should. Urgot should. | ||
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Kogmaw looks pretty funny though. You could become a hero. Corki, Varus are not in the pool D: Ashe seems boring but maybe good to confirm town. | ||
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I am not picking Warwick. | ||
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I am not going to do what you are saying. Might pick Viktor though. Kinda liking Karthus. | ||
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How did you miss that obvious sarcasm? geript --> calm head --> level thinking or geript --> hothead --> HULK SMASH | ||
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I totally picked Viktor even before you peeps started suggesting him. I even made the items already. They will be DotA themed. You silly gooses. | ||
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1) I am awesome. 2) I am first pick and got Viktor. I will make items that are pro town. 3) I crumbed my player name. 4) I crumbed my LoL team. 5) I am awesome. | ||
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On December 02 2013 09:40 OdinOfPergo wrote: Actually I think I mis-interpretted the meaning of your point there. You crumbed the team your player name is on by that? Only point 1 and 5 are really important tbh. | ||
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Dagon lvl 5 first. I will break this LoL game with DotA items. | ||
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yay! It also might happen on N3. Or N4. Or N5. It depens on the scummers. | ||
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If the evul scummers are nice and cuddly scummers than it will be delayed to D4. They are probably not cuddly so on N2 somebody will be elected. You got 140 hours to prove yourself. | ||
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On December 02 2013 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have no idea what are you talking about. Why would you use any power over the invontions because you can basically do whatever you want, including your other power.. I can use all the powers. Also it's super awesome. Like almost better than the invention stuff. Do you know cool inventions? I already got 4 items send to the hosts though. Aegis Dagon BKB Ghost Scepter Some are pretty weak though. | ||
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Peepz should stop claiming VT. Peepz that are VT should breadcrumb what they picked though. So we can verify. | ||
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On December 02 2013 19:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because the game is about information and knowing what roles are where. I am totally in for mass claiming. Why did you claim picking the inventor if you don't want scum to know who is VT and where the roles are? Anyways i hope you are town and if you are i hope you use the inventor role well. Don't make stupid/weak stuff. I'll protect you on N1 -> D3. So you can't possibly die. Watcher should check me on N1 so that in case i get roleblocked we can be sure that player is scum and lynch them. In case i do not get roleblocked Koshi is guaranteed to live to at least N3 and we have a lot of inventions. That's my plan. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I am going to make the aegis for myself on N1. I should never die and the watcher should just watch me. | ||
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On December 02 2013 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Trust me on this. My role is in fact fucking awesome. All i need is to prement myself from being roleblocked on N1 and everything will be good. In case i do not get roleblocked on N1 and something goes south you can lynch me. I am still going to make the aegis for myself. You people need to scumhunt to find scummers. I shall not die this game. | ||
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On December 02 2013 19:55 marvellosity wrote: yeah I don't see why Koshi thinks that being immortal or whatever is a good thing for town compared to anything else he can do. It's really weird. Tell me a good item. | ||
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Kurumi and marv are not getting cool items. | ||
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I can make that item for myself. Why should I not? | ||
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On December 02 2013 20:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because i can guarantee you live on N1, D2, N2, D3. I can also guarantee you will not get roleblocked during those phases. So what the hell is the point of making yourself immortal on N1? For the record that's not even possible because afaik you can't create items that target specifically yourself and making yourself immortal would mean you are confirmed town because if you were mafia that would maean you would automatically win the game. So no Koshi, your plan is very dumb. Ok rayn. I shall not make the Aegis for myself. What about I make it for you? You stay alive and protect me. I make sexy aegis for you. | ||
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Ok. No aegis then. I shall hunt for a townie. | ||
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On December 02 2013 20:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Ahh okay. I also suggest we force everyone vote for top 2, at most top 3 candidates on D1. In that way i think the list check is most powerful. In case someone leaves a stupid hippie vote somewhere policy lynch them immediately. Agreed? Best would be to have townreads vote on 1 target and then check that wagon. Getting back 0 scums is the best result you can have. | ||
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You got caster VT that can do 50 damage but got 850 hp. (Odin) You got VT with 1100 hp and nothing else (Mocsta) You got VT that can move peepz (Oats) | ||
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On December 02 2013 21:14 marvellosity wrote: Well, I managed to miss that. Thanks Koshi. Well, hosts didn't confirm which ones. But those 3 are claimed by people. Would be kinda ballsy to fakeclaim that when it is so easily CCable. | ||
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On December 02 2013 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: The thing is with the inventor in the game and all roles that fuck with DT-checks the checks are now 100% legit. :p Barring the Godfather obviously, but i doubt any scum picked it because it does serve no purpose. If any townie for some reason picked it i think they should claim it asap. You do realize every role still has a second ability that can fuck with alignments? Chances might be low but possible. | ||
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On December 02 2013 22:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: I do not think anyone from the upper half of the draft would pick GF based on scum banning all inv-roles. You might be right about the lower picks, but then again, in case something implies there is a GF we know to which pool of people to look into. Wait. Scum didn't ban Viktor. Then they decide to not pick number 2. Silly gooses. Really strange imho. | ||
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Out of the 7 pickers there will be 2 townies at least. marvellosity [7][2] gtrsrs [7][11] OdinOfPergo [7][16] Out of the 1 pickers there will be at least 3 townies. With rayn claiming to pick 1,1 Mocsta [1][5] supersoft [1][30] Oatsmaster [1][1] Cho'Gath raynpelikoneet [1][1] Shen Probably 1 town: BloddyC0bbler [17][5] justanothertownie [17][20] austinmcc [6][3] Meapak_Ziphh [6][14] Sandroba Fiora [8][?] Kenpachi[8][15] Rean [16][2] bumatlarge [16][12] Also bonus assumptions is that there are at least 2 scummers that didn't send in numbers and that hosts changed players so fast because scummers were being whiny bitches in scum QT. kushm4sta ticklishmusic Roffles Coagulation jaybrundage LSB | ||
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On December 03 2013 02:58 Kurumi wrote: I picked Warwick because I have seen him as a big threat, since he was not banned. Does that mean I like Warwick? Well, he has one of the easiest jungles out there, but is very boring, all he can do is auto-attack or ulti in-game. Ok. But my real question was: Does Warwick work like this thread thinks he works? Do you like that? Is it usable? | ||
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Kurumi is scummy in my eyes. Reason? Picked warwick while not knowing how he worked. But then knew it anyway. Also saying crazy stuff like scum having abilities outside the heroes. | ||
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On December 03 2013 06:17 marvellosity wrote: Can't really see why I'd lynch Kurumi over players like gtrsrs or Rean to be honest. If I were going for an active lynch I'd lynch Mocsta. I shall make a post by post analysis and paint everything scummy. | ||
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On December 03 2013 06:58 Kurumi wrote: I was working under assumption that Warwick was an Assassin from other games we've known. It turned out to be true. When did I say anything about scum having abilities outside the heroes? Quick question. Is rayn town? Am I town? | ||
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On December 03 2013 06:19 Koshi wrote: I shall make a post by post analysis and paint everything scummy. I am pleased with my work. If somebody reads all this crap and tell me this is how otwn Kurumi plays I shall be satisfied. Otherwise we lynch him. + Show Spoiler + On December 01 2013 02:25 Kurumi wrote: How come you missed Warwick as a Mafia champ, assassin always is crazy good at hands of mafia since they know the alignment. Rammus is scary as well if Mafia gets a good composition. How much HP does everyone have? How much damage is actually "damage"? This is not how Warwick works. I already asked this question. gj at not reading at all. Easy way to enter the thread and get some posts discussing your own mistake. On December 01 2013 02:34 Kurumi wrote: Oh this way. Still, if Ashe/Quinn is picked by Mafia WW is crazy strong and they probably have more powers than we know, so. This is still wrong. supersoft is also wrong because you don't need to know the name of role PM obviously... That would be retarded. But seems like Kurumi actually believes this. I don't understand how 2 people misinterpreted that hero but if you need to know the name of the player in your role PM then Warwick is actually 100% useless. But what does Kurumi say to justify his Warwick obsession? "Mafia WW is crazy strong and they probably have more powers than we know" Seriously? "I wasn't wrong about Warwick because scum has extra powers". Please tell us more. On December 01 2013 02:36 Kurumi wrote: We don't give out our pick numbers until we know the draft results. It worked last PYP and I am going to do same here. Ok, seems like the guy has a plan. On December 01 2013 03:04 Kurumi wrote: I am going to find the fastest way to kill rayn, just throwing it out. He's aggressive, being all around dick for the sake of being a dick and tries to shove his "great plan" based on his own reads on all of town. I might even pick 1,1 just out of spite. Is rayn scum? Is rayn town? Is rayn just a dick? Does he agree with the townreads? I guess he does? Really don't understand this post tbh but I feel like Kurumi thinks rayn is town from this post. Or even knows rayn is town. What is the goal here? Looks like Kurumi is trying to undermine rayn. Or just trow dirt at rayn. Which is a recurring theme for Kurumi posting. On December 01 2013 05:07 Kurumi wrote: ##vote: Warwick Really, why vote Warwick when you need the role pm player name?? On December 01 2013 06:38 Kurumi wrote: The plan from last PYP I played or last PYP I remember is claiming numbers after we have draft list, so we can see what we picked and where we ended. Makes for quite good analysis later on as for how mafia decided to pick. Yes, this guy has a plan after he gathered the numbers. On December 01 2013 20:06 Kurumi wrote: EWODP Koshi [2][1] Kurumi [4][6] VisceraEyes [5][4] jcarlsoniv [9][3] Mig [12][1] JonnyLaw Risen [15][15] StorrZerg geript [24][24] austinmcc Meapak_Ziphh Sandroba Kenpachi[8][15] Rean [16][2] bumatlarge [16][12] BloddyC0bbler justanothertownie marvellosity gtrsrs [7][11] OdinOfPergo [7][16] Mocsta supersoft [1][30] Oatsmaster [1][1] raynpelikoneet [1][1] onlywonderboy ticklishmusic Roffles Bill Murray jaybrundage nyxnyxnyx so far, going to read the thread instead of numbers now Soon he will reveal the plan, right? On December 01 2013 22:55 Kurumi wrote: Mafia really does not want us to know their champion names. I looked in the thread why he posted this one liner. I don't know. Maybe crumbing he was going to pick Warwick? So I guess he now knows that he doesn't need to know the name of the role pm player. Never mentions it in the thread though, and he got second pick so he can kinda spoil he will pick Warwick. Unless he wants to bait scum in picking warwick. But why crumb shit? Dnu really. On December 02 2013 00:25 Kurumi wrote: I'm wondering why the hell would Oats go 1,1 after rayn claimed to get those. Why you did not want Rayn first Oats? Kurumi blaming Oats for doing something he would do out of spite off rayn himself. Kurumi also showing that he thinks rayn is town. On December 02 2013 00:53 Kurumi wrote: We pick now. No, you don't claim who you pick. We can make lists as to direct people to pick stuff, because it might help people not quite familiar with PYP. Why is Kurumi not bringing his opinion up later when people are claiming what they will pick? But ok, seems like Kurumi likes some secrecy around the picks. UNTIL he gets warwick and it's all about BLUECLAIM ALL PL0X On December 02 2013 01:17 Kurumi wrote: First time I've seen you troll, just let me note that I think that's scummy as fuck because you never played like that, you always were invested as Town, to the point where you'd throw tantrums. VE scummy like fuck. On December 02 2013 01:59 Kurumi wrote: Noone ever is going to get the same number as someone claimed unless they want to drown them somewhere deep down in the draft list. You remember that great plan Kurumi had around the picking of numbers? We still haven't heard anything of that. Also, Oats wasn't only guy that picked 1 as first number, and the Oats-theory is not even touched by Kurumi. Kurumi just trows some blame towards Oats. On December 02 2013 18:54 Kurumi wrote: What did you try to pick? That question is for all vts. You remember how Kurumi said to not claim blue? Basically he is here trying to figure out all the blues. Which helps him a shitton with his super antitown hero ww. (his words) On December 02 2013 19:12 Kurumi wrote: Koshi [2][1] Viktor Kurumi [4][6] Big Bad Wolf VisceraEyes [5][4] Lux jcarlsoniv [9][3] Mig [12][1] Urgot? JonnyLaw [14[11] Risen [15][15] StorrZerg [23][23] geript [24][24] Warwick? -> VT? austinmcc [6][3] Meapak_Ziphh [6][14] Sandroba Fiora? Kenpachi[8][15] VT? Rean [16][2] ?->VT bumatlarge [16][12] Tryndamere? BloddyC0bbler [17][5] Janna? justanothertownie marvellosity [7][2] gtrsrs [7][11] Kha'Zix -> VT OdinOfPergo [7][16] Karma -> VT Mocsta [1][5] ? ->VT supersoft [1][30] Oatsmaster [1][1] Cho'Gath ->VT raynpelikoneet [1][1] Shen Last because no numbers sent? kushm4sta ticklishmusic Taric Roffles Coagulation jaybrundage [Tabbz] Ezreal? LSB -> Tryndamere Looks like Kurumi is pro mass claiming. As the scum Warwick he needs to figure out who is which hero. Why not try and get some activity town cred while doing his scummy works. On December 02 2013 19:13 Kurumi wrote: Those same numbers people look suspicious to me. Risen, StorrZerg, Geript, Oatsmaster I guess this was the great "analyse" of the draft numbers like they did in that previous PYP game because there is nothing else in Kurumi his filter. Those evul guys picking double numbers. Failproof scumhunting. On December 02 2013 19:20 Kurumi wrote: So far I think Oats is scum, no idea about vets, I like bum, marv is sneaky, jcarl for some reason soft defended me and behaves weird, people are fishing for hp, what. I guess the double number thing is a joke? Because these are not the same names. On December 02 2013 19:27 Kurumi wrote: Just make sure you'll make it through N1, Private Bapkins. Joke I guess. On December 02 2013 19:28 Kurumi wrote: I think giving listcheck to someone and claiming it just before night ends is the best scenario. Mafia can't abstain, so we get a check off anyway. rayn already suggested this. Kurumi wants the rayn dick. As previously seen with trying to make Oats look bad picking 1,1 just like rayn did. On December 02 2013 19:44 Kurumi wrote: It is on. Cant stop what we started, so please comply. Massclaim so useful for scum Kurumi. On December 02 2013 19:50 Kurumi wrote: Not sure, last time I checked I was an assassin and town, so that list is handy to me, also keeps track of our mass claim? There is no reason why Kurumi wants everybody to massclaim. Sure his handy for him though. NOW HOLD ON A MINUTE. Kurumi really wants to use that warwick spell it seems. Or at least is not even considering not using it. More proof later. On December 02 2013 19:54 Kurumi wrote: Yeah you might not die till the endgame and still lose, so listen up Private - we are in this shit together, so stop crying for diapers because there are no babies in brawl. Here I am town. Here I am scum. 2 minutes between those 2. On December 02 2013 20:00 Kurumi wrote: I do not care about cool items, if I would like to I would spend two nights trying to get rid of you and I can do that regardless of the flavour of the condom you invent for your head. We never came up with anything better than a listcheck, so why bother trying not to do that? rayn tries to convince me by saying he will keep me save. Kurumi says he can kill me with or without aegis or ??? I don't even know what the fuck he is saying. I guess he says I am special and that scum can kill me if they want. Like. wtf? Also, looks like Kurumi knows I am town. I don't even know why. Why would he pressure threatening to kill me in the night? That's how scum would kill me. Look what marv says: marv say he wants to lynch me if I don't comply. That's townie. Kurumi says he will nightkill me. rofl. __________________________ Because I am already bored and totes right Kurumi is scum I shall point out only a couple more post On December 02 2013 20:06 Kurumi wrote: The worst outcome for a massclaim is when some claim and when some dont. At this very moment yes, mafia have blues for picking. That changes the moment we complete the claiming cycle. I wont kill rayn. I said before that I would but I have changed my mind after reading the thread. Does anybody understand this? Why is it the worst outcome if a couple guys keep their blue a secret? Kurumi is really screaming TELL SCUM ALL THE BLUES, I don't know why. On December 02 2013 20:47 Kurumi wrote: Gtrsrs was very aggressive in the game I played with him. In fact he was so good and aggressive that iGrok(godfather) banned him out of his games out of spite since gtrsrs and I pushed lynch on him. Another guy Kurumi trows dirt on. On December 02 2013 22:54 Kurumi wrote: I am scared about nidalee. High profile players are both at the start and the end of the signup list :/ My second ability helps my main as well. Thief role would be a real bummer if hidden, so I do not think it is likely. Will try to go over jcarl, gtrsrs again when I am home. Especially bum's case and what have MZ Mig and BC done so far. 1) Something about nidalee without extra explanation. 2) Something about vets everywhere on the list. 3) Something about his second ability. 4) Something about a thief role. 5) Promises activity. 6) Trows some more dirt at players. On December 02 2013 23:09 Kurumi wrote: Sounds far less useful than classic listcheck. You can actually pick 1 or 7 and confirm 4 town or 3 town or have at least 25% odds on mafia or at least 33% odds on mafia. Not a bad idea at all. On December 02 2013 23:51 Kurumi wrote: As for Mocsta one big thing that stands out is that he asks people for opinions but never does provide them himself... unless asked. Diving deeper. You remember that promised activity? Mocsta isn't one of those 2 names. But what the hell. TROW SOME DIRT. On December 03 2013 00:13 Kurumi wrote: Mig He can be ill till D2 for all I care. There is no way to get anything from his posts at all. BloodyC0bbler Not much to note besides being against a massclaim, but there is something interesting - he says that Warwick is not that good, because he has to know more to work. I think he started this Urgot wagon, which is pretty decent, he probably was a bus driver as well because of his ultimate in-game. He fought a little with the massclaim plan, but not much. Something is fishy, but he is laid-back in his posts so I am willing to give BC some leeway. Meapak_Ziphh Defends VE pretty hardcore, not much besides "I know him", makes a case on gtrsrs without any meta - posts found in my opinion are absolutely not what I've seen from gtrsrs. He does not care. He does whatever he wants. He shouts. He kicks. He bites. He wants to be in spotlight. He is never wrong. He is the man. Here, he is a tiny weenie potato. Something in the ground. MZ posts enough so I think his alignment will be known soon. As for now, I am a little interested why Mocsta defended gtrsrs and attacked MZ... Chainsaw defence? bumatlarge His case on jcarl is sound - that means, jcarl looks scummy. Bum was trying to coordinate things a little and saw Warwick as a threat. @bum, what do you think about gtrsrs and geript? I simply don't like it. Look at BC: 1) Nothing to note except this 1 thing which I won't explain why it is noteworthy. 2) But then trows dirt on BC for saying this: However I disagree with his list a bit. I honestly think warwick is not as much of a threat as he thinks it is. Why? Because it requires active knowledge of peoples roles for mafia to use it properly. It is a role that late game the mafia perhaps could use if people start claiming or what not but honestly I believe in a pyp setup no one should really ever claim unless they are 100% dead to a lynch. IMO only the people in the top 7 slots should be claiming in the event that they attempt to take their allotted role and they don't get it. IE someone in the list above them sniped the role and let theirs drop down to someone else. So BC believes mass claiming is bad and therefore warwick is not the most useful hero for scum. What is so strange and "interesting" about this? Why does Kurumi paint it like that?3) Some random stuff about Urgot having bussdriver. 4) "Something is fishy" Again Kurumi is trowning dirt but nobody fucking knows why. What is fishy? 5) ends with BC is cool anyway even though his gut feeling tells him that BC is fishy. O rly? On December 03 2013 01:17 Kurumi wrote: Probably to prove a point my mind tried to show me - kushm4sta does not care at all what he is going to read. On December 03 2013 01:26 Kurumi wrote: I'm very sorry, but this guy came into the thread, made half-assed analysis of me, said that gtrsrs is town for no reason, said jcarl is town for no reason and you think I am not going to call him out on that? The reaction on Kush trowing some suspicion onto him is just hilarious knowing Kurumi has done NOTHING ELSE THAN TROW DIRT EVERYWHERE. On December 03 2013 01:27 Kurumi wrote: You forgot about "Kurumi is not trolling" in your brilliant analysis, it'd remind me of those good old days where I had to decide out of 3 scum N1 which one to kill. Yeah, Kurumi is going to kill people if they dare to do something to him. harr harr harr On December 03 2013 03:12 Kurumi wrote: I am an assassin. I know you are Viktor. That means I can touch you at night and maybe kill you if you are wounded enough. 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On December 03 2013 07:37 marvellosity wrote: Koshi, my love, that's a Mattchew-Hogwarts case and not a Seuss-## case. I know it's not perfect. but the tldr of Kurmui filter is this. + Show Spoiler + 1) WARRRRRWWWWWICCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK 2) I got a master plan around the draft numbers. 3) These 15 people are suspicious for reasons that aren't reasons. 4) Mass blue claim please and we are doomed if somebody doesn't massclaim. 5) I forgot the master plan around the draft numbers. 6) Do not dare to say I am scum or you are scum. K. It's now out of my system. I will probably just sheep somebody somewhere. | ||
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Sure. Maybe Kurumi will tell us why people are scum in the future. @VE: The most damning fact is his dirt trowing tbh. If he keeps it up I shall make a summation. His read of BC is the perfect example. You read those 4 lines and Kurumi makes it appear that BC is pretty scummy without giving 1 decent reason. | ||
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On December 03 2013 08:06 Kurumi wrote: Koshi, how many games have you played? It's in my profile. | ||
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On December 03 2013 08:12 Kurumi wrote: Yeah, you are new. Okay, so is there anything else to your case besides you not understanding why I call people out on stuff (you omitted kushm4sta convo for some reason) and why I like Warwick? I really would like to talk about your case but I don't see anything there that could be scummy; I think Warwick is dangerous, I vote to ban him. Then, I pick him to deny him from scum. Then, since there was a massclaim motto going on and people claimed I jumped on it because a half-assed massclaim hurts town a lot. I could have kept my mouth shut, I never really pushed claims from people even, so where am I in all of this? I just supported the idea, I have no idea why people don't want to claim at this point, when damage has been done. Why is it a disaster when 9 people blueclaim their role and 1 guy doesn't? | ||
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On December 03 2013 08:15 Kurumi wrote: It is a disaster when minority of the players claim their roles, while half of that minority is vt. That paints a HUGE target on people who claimed and gives Mafia an idea where not to hit when it comes to VTs. The info about who VTs tried to pick is crucial because it helps in later stages of the game to catch scum lying about their roles; also, we know where that role MIGHT be. That's not how you painted it before, I could see that this is correct in theory. But before this you were just yelling for people to claim. Everybody that doesn't claim his hero is still a ? for scum. Most people on top are blue anyway, scum knows this, knowing which hero they have might help scum more than not knowing what hero it was. Nobody is going to kill this dumb tryndamere and his silly spells. There is really no reason to say how bad or how good your spells are. Also, you don't call out scummy things. I has nothing to do with me not understanding that. On December 02 2013 19:13 Kurumi wrote: Those same numbers people look suspicious to me. Risen, StorrZerg, Geript, Oatsmaster What is the purpose after this post? What scummy things do you point out? On December 03 2013 00:13 Kurumi wrote: BloodyC0bbler Not much to note besides being against a massclaim, but there is something interesting - he says that Warwick is not that good, because he has to know more to work. I think he started this Urgot wagon, which is pretty decent, he probably was a bus driver as well because of his ultimate in-game. He fought a little with the massclaim plan, but not much. Something is fishy, but he is laid-back in his posts so I am willing to give BC some leeway. What scummy thing do you point out? BC is against ANY SORT OF CLAIMING. This is not scummy at all. You just said that the only reason you are pro scumclaiming is because if only a couple people blueclaim these people are under pressure. BC said that NOBODY should claim so that heroes like warwick are BAD. Which makes 100% sense. What do you say: BC is against mass claiming = noteworthy (aka scummy) (you don't say why) BC says therefore Warwick is not that good. (Which is true) (Why is this "interesting") (aka scummy) BC fighted the mass claim thing (Which was smart if nobody claimed, like I said), BC stopped fighting it when more people claimed and we enter that area in which you say everybody should claim (why is this scummy? it's logical for you.) + WHAT IS FISHY? You make BC look scummy. But there is really nothing that I agree with. Rewrite you BC case please so I understand. | ||
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On December 03 2013 08:45 Kurumi wrote: Gut reads. Something just strikes me as odd, but there is no evidence to back it up, even for myself. On December 03 2013 08:48 Kurumi wrote: Oh I think I know where my thoughts went: since BC was downplaying Warwick he tried to make him look not that good and he fought with massclaims. It is like he wanted people to go for massclaim while securing Warwick. It is really not that great of a thought, but it made me stop for a while. I am off to bed. But please don't fuck with me Kurumi. You don't just "call out scummy things when you see it". You cast a lot of suspicion on a many people without any follow up and with bad reasoning or just no reasoning at all. Don't call these gut reads. They are not gut reads, it's just bad shit. How do you want us to work with "amagad these guys that picked twice the same number are looking pretty scummy to me" and then a couple minutes later somebody ask you about your scumreads and those people don't even make the list anymore. You are just spewing dumb "gutreads" that are not helping anybody. Except scum. | ||
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On December 03 2013 12:12 LSB wrote: Yo, what are the restrictions on your role? Can you make cooler stuff like "LSB's bus driver, where everything that goes to you is instead reflected to someone else" or "DT magnifying glass, which makes anyone a DT?" or "Thermonuclear Bomb" which kills X amount of people at a time, where X-1 is the largest amount you can get the hosts to agree on?. Oh I know! Make an Euls Sceptor! A roleblock + Invul that only works on yourself and people not on your team (IE Mafia if you are town, and town if you are mafia), give yourself one and use it to make you invul, and they start handing em out so we can all be detectives. I agree with people saying you should try to do more with your role than being a guy who can't be nightkilled. I keep harassing hosts but they don't reply to me anymore. I don't know anything about what I can make. | ||
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And I think gtrsrs was pretenting to be scum or something. | ||
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Cool DotA items are back on the table. | ||
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Also rayn filter/marv filter = 2 | ||
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atm reading marv candidates. | ||
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If you think you like one of these items let me know and you might get selected. yay! + Show Spoiler + 1. Gem of True Sight The holder is notified everytime somebody visits him. 2. Eul's Scepter of Divinity Puts a cyclone under somebody his ass. Protecting him from any damage and RBs him (Jailer) 3. Dust of Appearance Shows all visitors that visited you or the 2 players around you on the player list. (2 uses) 4. Aegis of the Immortal Revives you when you die with half hp and without debuffs. 5. Ring of Protection Reduces any damage done to you by 50% 6. Dagon lvl 5 Insta gibs somebody. (dayvig gun) 7. Scythe of Vyse Turns your target into a sheep, rbing him. 8. Armlet of Mordiggian Doubles your HP when activated. But you lose 200 HP each cycle. 9. Refresher Orb When activated you can use your night action 2 times in the same night. 10. Urn of Shadows Heal target player for 333 hp each cycle for 5 cycles, if target takes damage it loses the healing buff the next cycle. This item starts with 2 charges and each time a scummer dies you get +1 charge. 11. Mekanism Heals you and the 2 players around you on the player list for 500 hp. 12. Skull Basher Damages target player for 500 damage and also stunning target player. (RB) 13. Talisman of Evasion You have 50% chance to evade all incoming damage. 14. Black King Bar Makes you immune to spells, but not mafia night kp. 15. Ghost Scepter Makes you immune to mafia night kp, but spells do double damage. 16. Shadow Blade When activated you are you immune from damage/spells for 1 turn unless dust is used on you. Or you visit the player that is holding a gem. 17. Pipe of Insight You and the 2 people around you on the player list have a protection shield around you that protects them from maximum 500 damage. Tonight I will look for some more normal items. Like a dayvig dual gun. I would like to make that as well. | ||
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Judgment of Solomon Let's pray that the hosts approve. It's so epic I needed to write this down. | ||
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To docs around the world. All heal/protect/guard marv. Thank You! | ||
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On December 04 2013 19:24 geript wrote: Didn't you just get out of a game where you and only you pushed scum Rayn and you were right? I should probly stop posting because I'm approaching don't give a fuck mode. Well in WitchCraft I said rayn was scum but I replaced in and the peepz already in the game said rayn was town and I didn't push hard enough. rayn was scum and I was sad. Then in the ongoing LXIII game I thought rayn was scum again and pushed him like I should have done in Noir and Witchraft. I actually got rayn lynched and he flipped town. On December 04 2013 19:34 geript wrote: Honestly Koshi I'm really pissed off at you. Like rayn says you're unlynchable right now (not actually but that he'd cockblock it). Like my first game with you I remember wanting to lymch you for coming across to me as dumb/newb/scum but not wanting to risk it. Here you're not wanting to participate for sounding dumb yet people aren't instantly taken to lynching you. IMO you're in my lynch it with fire zone and I'm not thinking twice right now. Ok. It hurts me to see you sad. What do you want me to do? I totes made a good case on Kurumi. Did you see how many people he called scum without reasoning? Did you see how he called BC "interesting" with false reasoning that he later couldn't explain? Did you see how he says xyz is scum and then 20 mins later says abx is scum? But more importantly. Do you see that he had 3 full pages after 24 hours in D1, scumreads everywhere, but after I called him out he made 1 post in 30 hours? On December 04 2013 19:13 Kurumi wrote: So I have a question: why was bum lynched without much people against it while people were calling others super scummy? What was your plan? Lynch them d2? I feel very uneasy about Koshi: he is a claimed inventor, knows that things can go terribly wrong n1 and he does nothing d1. Look man, if your line of thought was: "if I play bad maybe they will forget about me" then it is really stupid. Rayn claims to be able to protect you for a long time, why fear anything? Even if so, you should do a lot d1! I am happy Promethelax replaced in, Viscera started playing. Looking forward to playing with you guys. Now back to school. Will filter dive when I am back home. The only scumread am I? And when I called him out he said this: On December 03 2013 07:55 Kurumi wrote: Rayn is town. As for you, I have mixed feelings because of that invention shenanigans, but I am leaning town. I mean, you never said anything what would put me off in a scummy way and you are around. So. I totes shot scum Kurumi down and now he is in totes panick mode because he knows I will call him out on his shitty "gutty" scumreads and he doesn't know what to type. So he attacks me a bit. I haven't done anything else yet. Nor read into anybody else. I need to find a good target for my invention. Also, hosts need to reply to my idea. It will be epic. | ||
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On December 04 2013 19:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hey Koshi i get that you want to do funny inventions, but could you do funny useful inventions? I could also protect Coagulation because it's funny but i won't because there are more useful targets. I am just tricking the scummers thinking I will be useless. | ||
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On December 04 2013 19:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hey Koshi i get that you want to do funny inventions, but could you do funny useful inventions? I could also protect Coagulation because it's funny but i won't because there are more useful targets. Also, if you are also tricking the scummers and you will in secret protect marv there will be no hard feelings. | ||
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On December 04 2013 20:56 Kurumi wrote: I want to target Koshi so bad, but I realise that alive stupid inventor is better than dead stupid inventor... Even Bill Murray did something, sigh. Targetting Koshi would be the easy fix for your lack of skill. Seriously. First 24 hours in the day you had more than 10 scum gutreads. Pretty sure you can find some that aren't me from the last 50 pages? Just don't forget the reasoning. yay for Koshi! | ||
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On December 04 2013 20:56 Kurumi wrote: I want to target Koshi so bad, but I realise that alive stupid inventor is better than dead stupid inventor... Even Bill Murray did something, sigh. btw, am I town again? | ||
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On December 04 2013 21:31 Kurumi wrote: I requesting a modkill. I would replace but it is too late. I am not having fun and it feels like I am wasting time. wtf... Just find scum and give good reasons? wtf. | ||
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On December 04 2013 22:59 kushm4sta wrote: @koshi why does rayne look town? because i was thinking the opposite (not that I looked into it that hard). It's just a meta personality read of mine. When rayne is scum he acts like a smug son of a bitch, which is how he is acting currently IMO (no offense rayne, pls dont kill yourself due to that comment). If he doesn't start his rayne spam by d2 I am going to be very worried. He has many pages of filter already so this is pretty spammy. I am town and he is promising to keep me alive till he dies himself. It looks like he is trying to figure out the game. (I think, because I haven't I don't really know if he is but it looks like it.) Also, he brought up the listcheck item. I am pretty sure that this item would have been pretty good because host are not even allowing bad versions of it. So overall I am pretty happy with rayn atm. | ||
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On December 05 2013 00:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ok lets roleplay. It's an hour from the end of day, you're not the inventor and you have 15 votes on you. There's a green check on kurumi, convince us to lynch someone other than you. Amaze me koshi. I have played so many town games in a row and that scenario does not happen. I'll see what I can do on D2. | ||
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On December 05 2013 01:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: you know what, fuck your role I am absolutely ok with killing koshi right now. Seriously how hard is it to do ANYTHING AT ALL TO HELP THE FUCKING TOWN? Like if you're not gonna play then why join the game. I scumhunted so hard that I made Kurumi get himself modkilled. I got 6 pages of filter and I am the only one that did anything with the number vote thingies which we will all remember once people start flipping. On top of that I have answered each question asked to me honestly and quickly. The onle thing I did not donis gave you a list with the entire scumteam on. HOW DARE I. Instead of creating scenarios in which Kurumi has a green check. Why dont you fucking discuss my lenghty case on Kurumi or the points that I raise about him? | ||
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On December 05 2013 01:30 marvellosity wrote: Given you like to game stuff like this, I'm surprised you're pursuing this after Kurumi's statement that he wanted to be modkilled/replaced in the thread I am awaiting his flip on the daypost. Thus, this is a perfect moment to see if MZ can read him and is correct. | ||
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On December 05 2013 02:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: kush do you actually think a scummer would rage quit because you poked him a couple times? Or is that fed up townie? I'm asking you to think, which I understand may be difficult for you. Fed up with what though? Me considering he is scum? He gets targeted by me and decides to stop posting and "the game isn't fun anymore" while he is having 10 scumreads. at least 6 without explanation and the ones he has and explanation about I asked more about and he "forgot" why those were scum and downplayed his reads to "gutreads". Anyway, I agree with you all he is probably going to flip town on the daypost but we will see. I will be amused when he doesn't flip at daypost. | ||
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On December 05 2013 02:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Yeah because who gives a fuck what jay says, it's the fact that koshi just doesn't care. If you had said the same thing he did I wouldn't care because I know you are paying attention to the game. Koshi on the other hand clearly does not give a fuck and his response to jay's post read like "oh wall of text, I can call this guy town" I'll repeat this again, it's not about what jay said, it's about the way koshi responded. I couldn't give a fuck who it was honestly, it read like koshi saw an analysis and went "he wrote a lot, I can call him town." Actually. I really had the same thought process as marv. I just typed it like I did because that's what I thought after I read jays post. I don't understand why you are certain I didn't read jays his entire post, I did. | ||
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In case VE flips scum. Don't know if MZ is good enough for those tactics. But I wrote it down none the less. | ||
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Mr. Lion King. We need to talk. | ||
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On December 05 2013 18:27 Chezinu wrote: It's great to be King! I'm Like a Lion but Ghost-like. I might want to make an item that fits you later. | ||
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On December 05 2013 18:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: So did you make marv(mkfuba) a king? You really want to know what it does? It had to be a public spectacle but hosts made it night action it seems. | ||
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On December 05 2013 18:31 supersoft wrote: I have no idea how these inventions work, but wasn't kosh supposed to build this listchecker? Not allwoed in any form. Yes. | ||
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On December 05 2013 18:34 Chezinu wrote: Don't you know I see all. You did not make anything. *tisk tisk* If rayn is willing to give you protection, then we may need to look more into you. Rayn doesn't support the good guys, at least from my experience last game. Why you gotz to lie? Why did rayn have to lie? Why did Mig have to be sick! Pretty sure I made something and the hosts confirmed it in the Daypost. | ||
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On December 05 2013 19:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Also am I the only person who wants koshi to tell us what his invention does? I wanted to create an event with a big picture and normally all this should have been done in the thread. But hosts didn't allow that it seems so it is probably a night action. This is what it does. + Show Spoiler + Please type in the thread: ##Baby: Player X ##Mother: Player Y ##Mother: Player Z There will be a parity cop check done. In case X & Y have the same alignment and X & Z have a different alignment. Player Z will die. In case X & Y have a different alignment and X & Z have a different alignment. Player Y will die. In case the result of the parity copcheck X & Z and X & Y are the same (either both same or different) nothing will happen. | ||
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I forgot I made that mistake. In case X & Y have a different alignment and X & Z have the same alignment. Player Y will die. The point of the item is to have baby go to his same alignement mother and the different alignment mother to be executed. | ||
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First post. Big post on geript that ends with this conclusion: geript is probably a townie playing poorly in the early game rather than a scummer. Would not be happy lynching him d1. As he is trying to contribute. My major problem with him as a town read is conclusion A. I'm having trouble reconciling that thought process with a townie. In this big post there are a couple things Prome say that make geript look bad. Like geript saying roles don't matter and geript saying there are 6 scums and 2KP. But if we look at the end of the post we see that Prome gives geript a towntell for his interaction with different people, him being all over the place AND his insightful and strong read on Kurumi. Which is extra townie now Kurumi flipped town imo. Second post. A lot of people are discussed in this post. I will quickly recap. Supersoft: Some FoS for hinky posts. Roffles: Lynchbait. Koshi: Needs to shape up. Onegu: Needs to shape up. Puts Onegu on a 4. (but I disagree on the reasons.) VE: Prome commented on the nitpick between VE and Kush and said Kush was in his right. That's all. gtrsrs: Prome his favorite lynch target. I will spoiler his case here.+ Show Spoiler + On December 05 2013 01:26 gtrsrs wrote: i'm going to the gym. when i get back i'm going to take a shower and make breakfast. if my girlfriend is still asleep and nothing comes up by that point, i'll make my case for a lynch. if she's up, my case will have to wait until probably 3pm pst today. either way i'll do my best to have a cohesive lynch case by the end of today (dec 4th) i feel strongly about my read. if my case is strong enough to convince you to lynch my suspect, and i turn out wrong, i'd like to be lynched the next day please. i just simply don't feel strongly enough about anyone other than my target to make any conclusive assessments yet, yet i feel like you guys are putting a lot of pressure on lurkers to perform more (and rightly so). i will probably have my confidence shaken and be even more worthless if i'm wrong on this one thanks I'm so sorry Johhnylaw! I said you had the worst single post in the game. I lied. gtsrs has the worst post of the game (which I have read so far, there might be a hidden gem) Breakdown of why this post is awful and makes gtsrs red on my spreadsheet (if I had one he would be anyway) 1. pre excuses lurking 2. says he will make a case on a particular individual but does not name the individual, leaving room to make a case on the town wagon leader and claiming credit for an early read. 3. pre excuses that read flipping town 4. martyrs early all in all the above post is an attempt to do dick all. Take credit for leading a lynch. Be useless. Garner pity. would lynch rated a solid 4.5 MZ: Says he doesn't understand why MZ is so mad at that lovely Koshi and asks for explanation. A pretty nice conclusion is added as well, I might have missed some things but like Prome said, you can find them yourselves: I made a set of cases when I entered the game for Kush, JayB, LSB (less so) and geript being town while Onegu and Coag were on the scum side of null I also made cases for Johnnylaw and gtsrs being scum and half a scum case on VE in this post. My filter is short, you can find all of them. Third post+ Show Spoiler + On December 05 2013 08:28 Promethelax wrote: so two things about this, 1 yes I can and will ignore how the thread was progressing during that time. I was not in the thread and can't analyse what the thread was doing as a whole during its organic evolution. Instead I am looking at individuals separate from the thread. 2. To the bolded (his emphasis not mine): hehehehehehehehe. I've posted on all of those players besides Kenpachi (who even knew he was in the game? Not I) and what you are doing is shouting out a list of players and begging the thread which, right now is me, VE and marv, to attacka lurker for you. Of those I find Rean townie Coag scummy Onegu so unreadble as to be worth killing and gtsrs rather townie. Now if you want the thread to pursue one of those targets who you so ineptly try to accuse of something you can make a case on them. This post pushes you further into scum category for me. LSB is an easy target and has been talked to death, you didn't add anything to the case against him and, therefore, I do not find this case to give you townie points. Conclusion still scummy. I just like this entire post. That's kinda it for now. I will revisit this filter later I think, when I get a better grip on the game. I will now start diving people that Prome was suspicious off and work from there. Prome played pretty strong I think. | ||
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On December 05 2013 20:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Of course. That means my power did not go through. But i am pretty sure it did. I took 50 damage last night. | ||
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On December 01 2013 15:10 JonnyLaw wrote: Of course not to your last question. What I'm saying is that warwick offers such a random attempt at something. With the bans how does ww benefit the scum anymore than other champions that deal guaranteed damage. Your argument is preventing scum from getting champs you think are strong for them. Look at Ziggs/twitch/eve for guaranteed damage. Then there are defensive champs for scum who already know their teammates. Warwick and trynd are just garbage imo. Do you really expect to have scum line up for trynd in a position where we know who they are? It seems like a ridiculous pick to me. On the other hand, warwick is incredible strong and even though we didn't know he would do 450 damage simply by guessing the hero correctly I think that the entire scumteam would have actually figured out that warwick was a good hero if they could get blues to claim. So JonnyLaw saying that ww is bad and heroes like Twitch/Eve/Ziggs are way better look more like a townie being "wrong" than a scum being deceptive. I again read Prome and Mocsta points on JonnyLaw and I am not really convinced. | ||
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On December 05 2013 23:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: It depends. I'm not saying anything yet. I need to figure out a couple of things. It would be cool. I am now officially looking for the most townie VT to give him a present! | ||
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Austin makes a case on Rean in which he used a towngame of Rean to prove that Rean is playing completely different than in his towngames. But the game that austin uses is actually a scumgame of Rean. So either Austin is scum with Rean and made a "mistake" or Austin made a mistake for real. When Austin was pointed out that he quoted a scumgame of Rean Austin says: "but all the other things still stand". I am watching the other points Austin raises about Rean and they aren't good at all: 1) Rean didn't want to ban Graves (I agree this is silly but is it scummy?) 2) Rean said he wanted to sheep a townie read but later didn't say who he found townie(I do this all the time D1, as town). 3) Rean trew a hissyfit about Roflles BM. (This is only scummy because Rean does nothing else) austin is pretty weakgoing atm. Obviously if Rean is scum austin gets some credit. But atm I would lynch austin over Rean stupidly enough. ___ Rean is doing absolutely nothing this game, but is voting austin for this case on him. I don't know what Rean his gameplan is here but if Austin is scum I actually like Rean even less. ___ This is how it goes for me: ATM I would love to lynch Austin over Rean. If Austin is scum I find Rean scummy because in his doing nothing he picks out the 1 guy that puts pressure on him and is also scum. But if Austin is town Rean is still scummy for being wrong and doing nothing obviously. But if Austin comes over here and proves he is planning on being useful and can build out his cases on Rean/MZ or finds new shit that proves Austin is town. I would have 0 problems with lynching Rean for being useless if we don't have better targets. If Rean flips scum I think Austin is probably town because the whole making a mistake on purpose sounds a bit farfetched. | ||
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On December 06 2013 00:06 jcarlsoniv wrote: I think this post is the most compelling to me in the case against austin, tbh I think that post is only compelling if sandroba is proved to be a mindreader. | ||
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On December 06 2013 00:26 geript wrote: I'm going to try and post in ~6 hours. Busy at school. Ppl need to remember to be nice. also remember my claim was twitch. I have been fed. Jonny is twitch? | ||
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Here is what is left from my case. It was pretty huge before this. + Show Spoiler + On December 04 2013 09:50 supersoft wrote: lol okay. I get it... combined with the fact that he did not pick what was in his list. well... really scummy. But i had a good feeling about him http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=39 right there. at this point of the game, the thread was somehow not there, where i wanted him to be. We needed the rolepicking discussion. That discussion happened too late to coordinate the action. Both, Bum and I came in the thread with a similar mindset. That gave me a good feeling about him. Fact that he remembers this kinda stuff and uses it makes ss look townie to me. That and fucking up the draft numbers | ||
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On December 06 2013 03:20 Rean wrote: That is why I am suspecting Austin, not the random exchange we had. not the worst reason now that I read Austin his filter more. | ||
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if you would read the text above the spoiler you would have known hosts changed it. LSB Same to you. | ||
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On December 06 2013 04:52 LSB wrote: Hence my question if you know exactly what it does I just want to comment we should take extreme care about Koshi, the item he has made is extremely powerful for a few reasons. Let's consider the original item The Person holding the crown can only kill someone of the opposite alignment. This is essentially an overpowered version of Vigilante that gets two tries a night. (Unless he happens to check two mafia). This seems wayy to overpowered, but it does have two drawbacks. 1) In the hands of mafia it can increase their Kill Power 2) In the hands of town it has to be public and thus probably a 1 time use before the item is taken / the person is killed. What does the host change do to the item: it removes the second drawback and instead makes it a night action. This makes the item even more powerful in the hands of mafia as they will be allowed to use the item with little restrictions, in addition it makes the item repeatable in the hands of town. This makes the item all around more far more powerful and I really hope Koshi is town Well I didn't give it to myself so you don't have to hope I am town. | ||
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On December 06 2013 05:02 kushm4sta wrote: worst post of the game award goes to kush but it had to be said Nha. That last part was really true. | ||
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On December 06 2013 05:16 LSB wrote: Okay so what happens to koshi and what did koshi do last night? I don't get it Koshi says he made an item (Verified), and implied that he gave it something. Chez says that Koshi did not do anything last night Ryan Claims he protected Koshi in some way for 4 turns, and Koshi can no longer be roleblocked. Koshi Took 50 Damage Something is off here. The good news is that I think we should not worry too much about rayn, Chezinu and that cuddly Koshi. What we want to focus on is Austin, VE and OdinOfPergo. | ||
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When I went over the filters I found austin scummy but because I am a victim of thread sentiment I said I also wanted to lynch Rean. But I always said that out of the 2 I wanted to lynch austin of Rean because my own filter diving skillz. Now that thread sentiment is on austin I am totes game to lynch austin. | ||
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On December 06 2013 07:30 mkfuba07 wrote: Trying to catch up while at the same time keeping up is proving to be quite a hassle. @Koshi: Hiya, what would you like to talk about? @VE: Sup? Also, Mig wasn't redirected onto JohnnyLaw. Back to reading--- Well. Nothing now. But. You know you are in marv his spot? You are almost as confirmed town as when you shot that guy in Persona. Only. This time. You just replaced everybody his favorite player. Who was town. So. No pressure. | ||
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On December 06 2013 07:57 mkfuba07 wrote: I'm pretty confident that the source of the 125 damage on JL was not Mig. Sorry if I said that in a confusing way. Ah, sorry I was late for our conversation. And I didn't know I was p much confirmed town. That'll be convenient when I catch up fully. Marv is my favorite player too :C I don't know who I'll sheep since I replaced him =/ In any case, I wanted to check with you: You didn't receive an updated version of this item that you created? Dat question... My answer: Maybe. | ||
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Pretty cool stuff. I am sleeping now. | ||
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On December 06 2013 15:30 OdinOfPergo wrote: To expand on that previous post by me.... Half our players are afk. The other .... umm.... like half? replaced. So great.. actually I'm just going to shut it because I have very little positive to town and I really hope we 180 tonight. I am going to comment on this because I have seen multiple people say this and I think Odin mentioned it multiple times. There are 200 pages of content 24h before the second lynch, if you are so fucking good that you can read people if they are active, then you should be able to perfectly read at least 20 people in this game. I am pretty sure that the amount of scum between the lurkers and the amount of scum between the actives is % wise the same. The scum between the actives should be catchable because they post shit, whining about "too many people don't care about the game" when the game is 200 pages long is pretty mehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. | ||
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On December 06 2013 17:48 VisceraEyes wrote: So that's a no on lynching lurkers. Noted. Night. That's a "if you can't find answers in 200 pages, I don't understand why you want 300 pages". If 15 people created these 200 pages of content and you give them all a townread, then you can complain about the lurkers being around 50% hit or miss. But Odin did not give out any strong townreads or mentioned the fact that all the actives are town. He just moans and bitches that people are afk... Same with MZ asking coag to post more... I mean... It would be great if coag posted 10 or 100 more posts, but would you be 100% certain about his alignment then? Because if so, there are a lot of people who made those 100 more posts, but I don't see either MZ or Odin make a big list and confirm 15 people town. Or confirm 3 town that are for discussion. It just doesn't make any sense. If you can't read people with 2 page filter and you are mad about how this is not acceptable and they are ruining the game and yabbayabba, then why are these madboyz not trowing down the perfect reads on the people that are posting +5 or +10 pages of content? 200 pages. Must be at least 20 pages of scummers talk in there. that's 10%. Find it. | ||
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I have no interest in moving these people out of my towny town reads ever again this game. Quick reasons: marv supertown this should be obvious to all, rayn town for spam and trying to solve game, kush I am not certain about but gut says town and he will not change his playstyle or how he approaches this game so I better follow gut, Mocsta & geript both town because I like their play and I have no interest to start doubting people that play this game pro town, sandroba because short but sweet filter and I feel filter is looking for and trying to push scum. If any of these people are scum, good for them but I am not wasting time doubting them anymore. Leaning town: Oatsmaster, Justanothertownie, supersoft, Chezinu + Show Spoiler + Oats because his 10 page filter that meta screams town Oats, JAT because I don't know any of his scumgames but I do know that this is how he plays town, supersoft is a though one but I think he is town and I am not lynching him but I don't know really, but he is pretty selfabsorbed so we can lynch him D4 if he isn't dead or solved the game, Chezinu because he is crazy and fun and I think he is using his madness for town. So I am looking at the player list and I realize I just gave everybody with who I played a game with a townread except for Onegu, Austin, VE and Mig. Onegu: I don't know, that case man, I like it, I haven't seen really loveable cases from Onegu before, not on this level. Hmmmmmmmm. Maybe both Odin and Onegu are scum, this crossed my mind but meh, I think Onegu should not be lynched before Odin at this point. But also Odin is not really the biggest target for me. I need rayn input. But rayn is awol. meh. Austin: The more he posts the more I want him in the game because he is a guy that puts in a SHITTON of work. Every game I played with him. (Which is only Nuclear, Thug, LXIII and then this one) but still look at how massive those posts are. I don't know if I want to lynch Austin. Like he also said, he has 2 games going on and I can understand that this massive thread is not as easy to fully comprehend when you are playing in another game as well. The reason why we ae on his ass is for lack of content + rushed out content. But is this because he is scum or because he has too much on his plate? Do not want to lynch anymore tbh. VE: I don't know. He is in a bad place I imagine irl. Don't want to lynch till later. Strong player. scum kinda can't go around and not shoot him. The reason why I am not leaning town on him is probably because I didn't filter dive him like I did supersoft. If I get a bullet right now I would have a hard time picking between supersoft and VE. Also not really want to lynch... ugh. Mig: Not happy about Mig but again strong player and didn't do jack shit first 2 days in LXIII as well. Claimed 100 damage. If this damage is confirmed from town one day I will seriously consider murdering Mig. All the rest: Haven't played games with and I simply don't know. Rest of the day my focus will need to be put in reading these people. ^ my thoughts atm | ||
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Risen, he claims RB in a land he should never claim RB. Then he trows a hissyfit about the fact that it is town fault for massclaiming and then him being RB and now he can't mason rayn and yabbayabba. I understand that there is not much info to gain by lynching him. But he is a good #yolo lynch. | ||
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On December 06 2013 20:10 supersoft wrote: I could imagine, that the RB came from town... The only thing that makes risen look "better" is his Karma pick. Scum probably picked a healer as well anyway. Karma has multiheal in cone form. Multiheal good for scum. Need to keep good track of all these HP/RB/etc claims for later on. So that in the end when there is lylo information can be gathered easily. | ||
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On December 06 2013 20:59 Mocsta wrote: I was referring to TrickleMonster healing VE Anyways, Back to assassins creed Remember these heals for when flips happen. I would say in general scum would be a bit more hesitant to share stuff because late game they might be outed by their actions. Thats why I could see a fake scum Risen RB claim. But I guess the rule goes, RB first night is most likely town? But does it apply in this game? In which blues are everywhere. I don't think so. | ||
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On December 06 2013 23:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dunno kush. I need to reread his posts but i'm going to have dinner first. I feel really angry having to come hear catch up and all i get to read is people complaining and then people complaining about complaining. I'll be back a bit later. It was more putting an end to the complaining! | ||
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On December 06 2013 23:43 Mocsta wrote: i think it may have come from koshi not sure if he started it but I know I spokewith him about it dat evul Koshi. | ||
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On December 06 2013 23:44 Risen wrote: Meh, as far as I can tell the case against me is "Risen would do something like pick Karma as scum" Sorry folks, I'd pick Karma as anything. http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/42784335 I know that is all I said. But it is also the fact that you didn't do anything yet and I was the first one to bring you up. I wanted to awaken you and bring awareness that you are in the game. What about the reads we discussed last 3 pages, my list and supersoft list? | ||
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On December 07 2013 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Later. The case is bad because Odin is town though.  Not true. Case pretty solid. But I can wait. | ||
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On December 07 2013 00:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: austin I am genuinely confused about your case on me. You don't like the fact that I aggressively questioned koshi, that's basically it. Your entire case is based around one interaction which you seem to be willfully misinterpreting in order to call me scummy. Wasn't much questioning going on. | ||
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##vote: Meapak_Ziphh Feels like a good vote, austin looks cool. Risen not really but ok. VE/MZ good chances for scum vets. Others not so much. | ||
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Anyway, they aren't scum. rayn isn't scum marv isn't scum. Mig is being sincere I think and not scum. supersoft is a bit harder but meh, null read that looks pretty willing to move thread forward constantly. So I am just landed with you and VE on vets. And be it that you and VE are ignoring each other hardcore. Except VE saying that you attacking me was totally justified. (at least I think it was VE, but doesn't matter) So yeah. I don't have strong strong feelings towards MZ lynch. But I think it is probably a good one. Also, I am lacking any other decent read. Also, you attacked me. What can I say. Life is life. | ||
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On December 07 2013 10:05 supersoft wrote: Koshi, that is nothing. It sounds like you just wrote that down from your memory. Did you actually reread anything to come to these conclusions? You completely ignore BC aka Onegu and LSB on your vet-balancing discussion. Oh true. Onegu is BC. Interesting. I still like his Odin case a lot. LSB I never heard of. Meh, Like I said. I can be persuaded to lynch somebody else. But wishful thinking is preventing me. | ||
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On December 07 2013 20:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi i got a question to you; Was Odin, your top scumread scum? What? Was he? Wasnt top scumread. Was possible scum. Case Onegu pretty good. Onegu town. | ||
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On December 08 2013 07:09 Chezinu wrote: HOW DID YOU KNOW?!?!?!??! I wanted mafia to think I was going to attack you... Hmm. yeah. But in a world town keeps losing we better stay low on the shenanigans. | ||
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On December 08 2013 07:31 Chezinu wrote: So Koshi, are you going to do anything about LSB attacking you last night? Probably not. I am friendly that way. Was it LSB for sure or is this more shenanigans? | ||
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On December 08 2013 09:31 justanothertownie wrote: Meh. Did you read Sandros post? Yes. But what if it also reveals role checks and HP checks? | ||
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On December 08 2013 09:34 justanothertownie wrote: I think if you could invent something that reveals alignment it is still better. Or what jcarl said maybe. Who do you think is the townie with the best grip on the game atm? | ||
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On December 08 2013 09:58 ticklishmusic wrote: well, i found out apparently i can only use one ability per night, wanted to pop my ult and use my heal but apparently i can't /sadface same rofl. | ||
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On December 08 2013 10:21 ticklishmusic wrote: BUT NO ONE KNOWS WHICH I ACTUALLY USED wait crap maybe you do. o_o I don't even know who you are. So no worries. Scummers though. | ||
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Hosts tweak my inventions for balance and I don't know what they do after that. So I take it that one of the results was "same" and one was "different" and therefore nobody died? So MZ is scum because I am fucking town. | ||
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On December 08 2013 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##WEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOO Koshi i want to know why you did this instead of the Police radio that's 100x more useful? I doubted that there were a lot of detectives running around. Knowing that they were all banned by scum in picks. And if there were still detectives running around I was praying they wouldn't die and just tell us the results. Also, this way we could have hit lucky and maybe scum attacked 5 people with 400 damage or something like that, confirming 5. Still upset the crown didn't work. meh. | ||
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Next night I shall suggest an item that reveals all scum to me. | ||
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MZ was interested in my item till he knew what it did. MZ was trowing hissyfits again because Coag nuked him. Went awol when he understood he was not dieing. But if Coag is scum, I guess MZ might not be. | ||
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On December 09 2013 02:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would scum divert KP? I suggested that in GoT and got told it was the stupidest idea ever (wihch it isn't if town does not know who is scum). You should know scum do not divert KP, they want people dead, not noone dead and people "half-alive". Yeah but they don't know how much hp we have. Therefore I also included HP checks. But meh. Seems like nothing really useful happened. | ||
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Imo my first item was pretty good but I have no clue why it didn't work. Looks like RB also prevents items, makes sense I guess. But I made it to be activated in the thread, now that it was a night action Mr. Lion King should have asked for some RB protection. | ||
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Then there are some other thingies I already mentioned. Especially how he asks me about my item and as soon as he understands how it works he leaves without extra comment. Then the whole Coag thing: On December 07 2013 12:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: also you're scum. I was wondering who was lurking in the thread waiting until the night phase to post. On December 07 2013 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: can anybody with kp kill coag tonight? Like why wouldn't Coag kill MZ? Coag nukesMZ and MZ just leaves because he is getting nuked but promises reads: On December 08 2013 15:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I have a huge paper I need to write, thanks for giving me a reason to go write it. I'll check back tomorrow and give some final reads and shit. Good luck rayn. So he promises final reads. Something he didn't even do when he literally was 1 minute separated from getting lynched... I don't buy it. MZ is my top 1 scumread. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086&user=Chezinu Are there reasons you want to lynch me kush? | ||
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On December 09 2013 18:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi answer me. Will you invent KP and give it to Risen? I could. But I am groing tired of doing what you want with my inventions. | ||
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On December 09 2013 18:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi answer me. Will you invent KP and give it to Risen? I shall also add that I will not do this. My first item was pretty cool but you fuckers keep pressuring me to tell who I give my items to and what it is. I am not telling you people anything anymore. | ||
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On December 05 2013 18:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: So did you make marv(mkfuba) a king? Well you didn't say it but you were fishing to who I gave it. I never said I gave it to marv. But w.e. Just don't bother asking for items anymore. I have enough of that. | ||
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On December 09 2013 18:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: I also find it incredibly fishy that Koshi does not even know what his items do. That's so fucking retarded. Like he invents something and hosts say "yeah okay your invention does something else than what you said - but we are not gonna tell you what it does". Riiiiiggghhhhtttt! Well that's exactly how it went. | ||
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hosts changed it from inthread action to night action and added option that X died. ^ All true. I think I am just going to ignore you rayn. Best for all. gl trying to get me lynched. | ||
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On December 09 2013 19:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because if they did not tell you that at the D2 start why would they tell you that later on. It makes no sense. Nobody ever told me... But I am now officially not replying to this subject anymore. It's what it is. I claimed to not know what my item does after getting tweaked by the host more then enough. | ||
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On December 09 2013 20:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: GUYS I FINISHED THE GODDMAN RESEARCH PAPER. ...now I have a micro final that I haven't studied for in two hours lolol. Anyway for those who are curious, this bullshit with koshi is why I questioned him that one time that ended up almost getting me lynched. Fucking. Called. It. I normally would take the high road but I've had a long night and it feels good being vindicated after almost getting lynched for it lol. Peace fuckers, sorry I haven't been too helpful, that paper was a bitch. I will return to the thread tomorrow after mico, hopefully slightly intoxicated. hahahahaha. You are are pretty terrible. | ||
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He feels austin is town when austin is on +-3 votes but doesn't do anything about it when austin is gathering many votes: On December 07 2013 03:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I think we should start consolidating on a lynch candidate. I'm still not overly impressed with an austin lynch. I could do it but I just feel there's better. I'd still really like a gtrsrs lynch. He has literally done nothing since I first called him out except go after soniv twice. And with the way roffles has been acting lately I would have no problems at all killing him. MZ gives his 2 favorite lynches with 1 line of explanation. He doesn't push gtrsrs or roffles at all. Doesn't try to get them lynched. There are no posts between above quote and this quote: On December 07 2013 05:29 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ok sandro you and rayn are my stronger townreads and you're both on austin, I understand the case and agree with it and I don't think I can get enough headway on gtrsrs. I'll go with you today. He didn't try to convince you 2 about his targets. Just gives up and consolidates on austin because townreads. Now, I can understand this behavior because I was doing the same thing. But I am not typing things like this: On December 07 2013 04:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I am always willing to die as a townie to prove my alignment but I absolutely will fight tooth and nail if you try to lynch me because some heuristic you won't explain makes one of me or austin scum. Also I strongly disagree with your comment about me being disconnected on two levels. Firstly I was active D0-N1, I had a lot of shit yesterday and wasn't able to really keep up. You yourself were barely around for D1 so in terms of amount of time spent in the thread you are just as disconnected as I am. MZ did NOTHING to prove he was town while being lynched. He just showed activity. The ONLY thing he did was ask "why are you voting me" and "why am I dieing". That's all.... 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I normally would take the high road but I've had a long night and it feels good being vindicated after almost getting lynched for it lol. Peace fuckers, sorry I haven't been too helpful, that paper was a bitch. I will return to the thread tomorrow after mico, hopefully slightly intoxicated. This is completely not true. The bullshit with Koshi was: 1) Koshi is not doing anything and riding the inventor role. 2) Koshi comments on cases without reading them and without thinking them over. (which was blatantly untrue) So why he is saying "told you so" when his bullshit with me was not about my inventions??? On December 08 2013 15:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I have a huge paper I need to write, thanks for giving me a reason to go write it. I'll check back tomorrow and give some final reads and shit. Good luck rayn. He get's nuked (by scum?) so no reason to keep playing. He doesn't consider that he is getting nuked for a reason (good reads or something) or he doesn't try to interpret why he is getting nuked. Just goes away because he is going to die. PS: the reads will never come. Why you ask? MZ is clearly reading the entire thread, because he commented on you guys saying Koshi is scum. But instead of commenting on what is happening in the thread, he just says "told you so" and fucks off again. He is doing NOTHING. On December 07 2013 04:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: sandro the biggest problem right now is that you're assuming that certain people have to be scum rather than looking at who has actually been scummy this game. Post like this are so mehhhhhhh. Sure they are true. But where does MZ apply this? These are the post why MZ lynch just felt right to me. Like this: On December 07 2013 02:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I wasn't PM'd at all about this so I assumed it missed me. 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On December 10 2013 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi nothing you wrote explains why MZ is mafia. This is the only thing even close: But then again, it's pretty hard to fdefend yourself when there is no case. Absolutely noone made a case on MZ. Noone. Except supersoft and his case was "why MZ is town". lol. Why would MZ do nothing because he is getting nuked? He doesn't even call Coag scum iirc. He just goes "oh shit, I am nuked, ok laters". Now this could come from a bad townie. But not from MZ who said "Why do you sign up for this game if you are going to be useless and not play the game". Why is MZ is latest contribution "told you so guys about koshi" while what he said was not was what just discussed. What did he told about me? I am scum? rofl... He didn't even commit that hard. He just said that I was infuriating him yabba yabba. When he was up for lynch I was NOT A SCUMREAD for MZ. He called gtrsrs and jay scum. NOT Koshi. The only time he talked to me since he "pressured" me was to know how my item worked. And then he fucked off without commenting on my invention or my alignment at all. | ||
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On December 10 2013 00:24 kushm4sta wrote: yeah there is NO way we are lynching mz now after that case from koshi. Worst case I ever read. Terrible even by koshi standards. rayn i think you are a huge asset to town. sorry if i shit on your pressure with my townreads <3 How is your MZ read regardless of my bad case? You have MZ as solid town? | ||
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On December 07 2013 03:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I think we should start consolidating on a lynch candidate. I'm still not overly impressed with an austin lynch. I could do it but I just feel there's better. I'd still really like a gtrsrs lynch. He has literally done nothing since I first called him out except go after soniv twice. And with the way roffles has been acting lately I would have no problems at all killing him. supersoft. You got Meapak_Ziphh, gtrsrs and Roffles as scum. Do you think MZ would call out 2 scummers just like that? | ||
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On December 10 2013 00:43 Oatsmaster wrote: hey hey Koshi, you wanna lynch yourself? No. Why you ask? | ||
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On December 10 2013 01:41 jcarlsoniv wrote: Was it ever said who had the ambulance radio? Because whoever used it that early left us with not a whole lot. rayn activated it in thread... | ||
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On December 10 2013 03:26 justanothertownie wrote: Sadly seeing this the splashdamage theory seems to hold some merit.  D: | ||
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Makes this interesting: supersoft raynpelikoneet Mocsta assumptions assumptions. | ||
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On December 10 2013 05:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Where arr gtsrs amd rofflw s And fucling lsb* where did je go ( ^ I am not doing shit till this guy is lynched. | ||
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On December 10 2013 05:49 VisceraEyes wrote: Don't hold your play hostage in a game where 3/4 of the game aren't even playing. It's terrible, and you should feel bad. I have played the game. Been online and commented on shit many hours a day. But that guy hasn't done shit in last xxx hours. 3 times x because he didn't do jack shit after draft phase and maybe a bit on D1. | ||
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Come on... Useless discussion. Just lynch. If he is town, we just rofl. | ||
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On November 30 2013 12:19 Koshi wrote: I'll take a gambit and ##vote: twisted fate ps: I am totes vanilla town Player is Genja. This were his favorite heroes on the wiki. On December 01 2013 07:06 Koshi wrote: Hard to pick a Hero... Even though I like AD carries I think I will pick something more fun. Kogmaw looks pretty funny though. You could become a hero. Corki, Varus are not in the pool D: Ashe seems boring but maybe good to confirm town. Yes. Scummers come kill me now. | ||
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On December 10 2013 18:17 kushm4sta wrote: still think he wasn't lying about that nuke though, which makes mz confirmed town kush, he was scum. He was NEVER going to hit somebody on the side of the list. He could have hit so many people but decided to scumclaim and go after MARV. Pretty sure the people around marv are town. Not MZ. | ||
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On December 10 2013 18:23 kushm4sta wrote: ok but how am i scum? i got buddied by coag and it owned me. should clear me as town honestly. Why did you consolidate on Coag? What are your reads atm? I am somewhat bored by you calling me scum. | ||
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1) Trows a hissyfit around Koshi that Koshi is useless and shouldn't play this game. 2) He says gtsrs/roffles are a good lynch and austin isn't a good lynch. Never mentions Koshi/gtsrs and roffles again. 3) He votes austin sheeping his 2 townreads, he didn't bring 1 extra reason to why Austin is scum and suddenly agrees on points made on austin before he said 2) 4) Was getting lynched and the only contribution he did was "why am I getting lynched" , "why are you voting me". There were NO reads coming from him. Nobody that voted for him was called scum, probably in the hope they wouldn't stick on him. 5) While being "nuked" by Coag he just leaves the game. Didn't say Coag was scum. Nothing. 6) People start discussing Koshi, MZ enters the thread and says "told you so" which indicates he is reading the thread. MZ doesn't mention anything else recently discussed. 7) MZ starts obvious trolling and comes back once more calling out lurkers. While having lurked hardcore last 48 hours. ------ Lynch MZ tomorrow. | ||
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On December 10 2013 18:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would you crumb your playername as town? Why not? | ||
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On December 10 2013 18:41 Koshi wrote: My case on MZ wasn't that bad at all. 1) Trows a hissyfit around Koshi that Koshi is useless and shouldn't play this game. 2) He says gtsrs/roffles are a good lynch and austin isn't a good lynch. Never mentions Koshi/gtsrs and roffles again. 3) He votes austin sheeping his 2 townreads, he didn't bring 1 extra reason to why Austin is scum and suddenly agrees on points made on austin before he said 2) 4) Was getting lynched and the only contribution he did was "why am I getting lynched" , "why are you voting me". There were NO reads coming from him. Nobody that voted for him was called scum, probably in the hope they wouldn't stick on him. 5) While being "nuked" by Coag he just leaves the game. Didn't say Coag was scum. Nothing. 6) People start discussing Koshi, MZ enters the thread and says "told you so" which indicates he is reading the thread. MZ doesn't mention anything else recently discussed. 7) MZ starts obvious trolling and comes back once more calling out lurkers. While having lurked hardcore last 48 hours. ------ Lynch MZ tomorrow. Point 1) is put in there because MZ started this game as a towny looking town calling people out for playing anti town and giving tips on how to scumhunt. But you can see from point 2) - 7) that MZ was only able to keep it up for D1. Reasons? None given by MZ, he was even saying he would fight tooth to nail to prevent his lynch. Did you see how he each 30 minutes posted "Why am I getting lynched". Nothing else since then. w.e I will stop pushing MZ. He will never survive till endgame. | ||
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On December 10 2013 18:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because you can just straight out claim it instead. Doesn't sound fun at all. I somewhere said all people should crumb their names for later on. Maybe WoS gave fakeclaims from the start. But maybe not and you win the game. | ||
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On December 10 2013 18:59 Mocsta wrote: And kush rayn.. Jeez Koshi. Which vt did u upgrade last night? Didn't. Can't ulti and invent same turn. Was thinking invent was better. People no likey the inventions though. Somewhat sad. Somewhat cba anymore. Hope to get RB tonight. meh. | ||
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On December 10 2013 19:19 kushm4sta wrote: anyone else seeing the light on this mocsta thing? after i found him out 95% of his posts turn to shitposts. His entire posting style changed. Read his filter plz. So did MZ his posts after marv called him out, but you call that case bad. Why is MZ town Kush? You didn't answer my question before. | ||
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On December 10 2013 20:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't even remember his post about breadcrumbing and if i did i would have called him out for it. There was a reason i asked people to claim their playernames in thread (VE, MZ, bum). Yeah, it's not like somebody was asking multiple times that I had a team in my role pm and that he himself didn't and later on that the 2 town players that flipped didn't. On December 10 2013 20:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: wow Koshi you're really butthurt that I called you scum lol I want to lynch you. You have straight up refused to cooperate with the town, you made on invention which didn't do anything and your second invention was worthless. You should have fucking invented a police radio N1, you had a second chance N2. It seems to me that you're afraid of investigative roles. Lastly your case on me is complete bullshit and reads like "I want MZ to be scum so he must be scum." To be honest you've done everything I would expect a scum inventor to do, you've tried to make things that appear town but either don't really work or don't give valuable information. Your second invention almost seems like a way to give scum more information. As I said in the beginning of the game, anything that gives scum information is bad. I should have fucking gone with my gut and tried to lynch you D1 when you were being an ass and refusing to cooperate for literally no reason. Done giving you a free pass. You are a worthless player. I will enjoy tomorrow. Baddie. | ||
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On December 10 2013 20:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: wow Koshi you're really butthurt that I called you scum lol I want to lynch you. You have straight up refused to cooperate with the town, you made on invention which didn't do anything and your second invention was worthless. You should have fucking invented a police radio N1, you had a second chance N2. It seems to me that you're afraid of investigative roles. Lastly your case on me is complete bullshit and reads like "I want MZ to be scum so he must be scum." To be honest you've done everything I would expect a scum inventor to do, you've tried to make things that appear town but either don't really work or don't give valuable information. Your second invention almost seems like a way to give scum more information. As I said in the beginning of the game, anything that gives scum information is bad. I should have fucking gone with my gut and tried to lynch you D1 when you were being an ass and refusing to cooperate for literally no reason. Done giving you a free pass. Also why N1? Tell me why police radio would have been useful. | ||
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On December 10 2013 20:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: aww koshi it must hurt to have been caught The only thing that ever hurt me that you did was playing in TL noir. rofl host. | ||
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On December 10 2013 20:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: That is pretty fuckin low man What's your deal? You call me worthless. You call me bad From fucking day 1 You do fucking nothing. I actually make a legit case on you. You reply with Koshi is butthurt. You continue to do nothing, not play the game. You don't set the bar on how low we can go. | ||
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On December 10 2013 20:29 kushm4sta wrote: Starting a flame war is actually something I like to do as scum. Koshi's recent behavior does not instill me with confidence that he is town. I was already scum to you so it should just strenghten that feeling. Not make me go from town to scum for the third time this game. | ||
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On December 11 2013 00:00 jcarlsoniv wrote: Koshi, are you making things tonight? Hopefully. | ||
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I can't make dayvig guns so don't hope for that. I could make a new detective item but I won't. You shall see tomorrow. You won't be impressed. But it's not bad. | ||
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On December 11 2013 00:49 Mocsta wrote: ehh???? " Most of them are approved with slight adjustments (read nerfs)." + 6. Dagon lvl 5 Insta gibs somebody. (dayvig gun) That's one that needed slight adjustments (read nerfs). I just asked. Dayvig not happening. Not commenting on it further. | ||
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Yes, that works. See item 1. | ||
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On December 11 2013 01:07 Onegu wrote: Can you make like a Big KP item that works during day that isnt just a straight vigi shot? Not during the day. Could go max +- 600. | ||
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I also dont make only angry post. Only towards you and MZ. And you 2 are begging for it. MZ isnt doing anything and he doesnt even see it himself. Well at least pretends that. Which reads is he pushing? Read from page 6 to now.and tell me which reads he pushes and with which reasoning. THERE IS NOTHING. | ||
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Like the only thing that I don't like about Onegu is that Malz normally spawns little thingies when his target die. I wonder what those are doing. Or maybe they don't spawn in this game. But still. What does it do? Not too bothered about it though. | ||
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On December 11 2013 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: I just made 6 cases. Those people should die. Explain to me why MZ is town. Then read your latest "case" on me. | ||
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On December 11 2013 03:47 kushm4sta wrote: i can move someone one space I think you mean 3 spaces. Or we have a problem. | ||
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On December 11 2013 04:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: I can't see how MZ is any scummier than any player in this game excluding sandroba. Funny you say this because you got MZ as town and all the rest as scum. Also funny is the fact that you decide to "dismantle" ss his case on MZ instead of mine which is way stronger. | ||
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But I am rereading everything today. atm stuck at stearing at this. + Show Spoiler + On December 02 2013 19:12 Kurumi wrote: Koshi [2][1] Viktor Kurumi [4][6] Big Bad Wolf VisceraEyes [5][4] Lux jcarlsoniv [9][3] Mig [12][1] Urgot? JonnyLaw [14[11] Risen [15][15] StorrZerg [23][23] geript [24][24] Warwick? -> VT? austinmcc [6][3] Meapak_Ziphh [6][14] Sandroba Fiora? Kenpachi[8][15] VT? Rean [16][2] ?->VT bumatlarge [16][12] Tryndamere? BloddyC0bbler [17][5] Janna? justanothertownie marvellosity [7][2] gtrsrs [7][11] Kha'Zix -> VT OdinOfPergo [7][16] Karma -> VT Mocsta [1][5] ? ->VT supersoft [1][30] Oatsmaster [1][1] Cho'Gath ->VT raynpelikoneet [1][1] Shen Last because no numbers sent? kushm4sta ticklishmusic Taric Roffles Coagulation jaybrundage [Tabbz] Ezreal? LSB -> Tryndamere + Show Spoiler + On December 02 2013 22:33 Koshi wrote: Ok I am going to make the assumption that scum didn't pick 2 the same numbers. marv recently said I always make great assumptions so I don't see why I shouldn't do it this game. (there might be something untrue in last sentence) Out of the 7 pickers there will be 2 townies at least. marvellosity [7][2] gtrsrs [7][11] OdinOfPergo [7][16] Out of the 1 pickers there will be at least 3 townies. With rayn claiming to pick 1,1 Mocsta [1][5] supersoft [1][30] Oatsmaster [1][1] Cho'Gath raynpelikoneet [1][1] Shen Probably 1 town: BloddyC0bbler [17][5] justanothertownie [17][20] austinmcc [6][3] Meapak_Ziphh [6][14] Sandroba Fiora [8][?] Kenpachi[8][15] Rean [16][2] bumatlarge [16][12] Also bonus assumptions is that there are at least 2 scummers that didn't send in numbers and that hosts changed players so fast because scummers were being whiny bitches in scum QT. kushm4sta ticklishmusic Roffles Coagulation jaybrundage LSB You think it is already handy to look into the picks? It is extremely unlikely scummers would pick number 1 twice right? Unless they thought they would be the first to pick after all single numbers. I didn't know if you picked a number 3 times you had to go under all the numbers that were picked twice. | ||
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On December 11 2013 10:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I think koshi is scum, I think LSB is scum, and I think gtrsrs is scum. On December 11 2013 10:29 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: @mig: personally I want koshi gone since the longer the game goes on the stronger a scum inventor becomes. However I'd equally be down for an LSB lynch and I could probably write a stronger case on him. MZ claims that he has been pushing his reads and that he isn't a useless townie at all. I dare you to read his filter and give me reasoning for his pushed reads. Koshi: roffles: gtrsrs: LSB: You will be disappointed. | ||
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Are you sure that MZ is not scum? Because. Today. Scums needs to die. | ||
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On December 11 2013 19:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am sure Risen is scum because he did not shield us. I had feels that Risen was scum on Day 1. But I got 50 damage D1 when you shielded me. Also I wasn't RB so maybe Risen was RB? Just trowing some ideas out there. | ||
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rayn, only damage from the hero that you taunted is halfed? Did Risen know this? He could just have had scum do 25 damage to you. | ||
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On December 11 2013 22:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: I really don't care about Mocsta right now. I care about the fact Risen lied and is mafia. Why are you not voting for him? Waiting on my item. Then I can consider it. | ||
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On December 11 2013 23:01 justanothertownie wrote: Please answer Koshi. Also I won't be lynching Risen for this - where is the scum motivation? 25 dmg? Rofl - especially not over people like MZ or jay or maybe jcarl with this weird lantern business. You don't know what it does? It activates double lynch. Everybody got 2 votes and top 2 dies. | ||
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On December 11 2013 06:56 Koshi wrote: JAT major townread. I wonder what night will bring. But I now realize it isn't best crumb. But the alternative name was Obama's double lynch hat. Didn't think they would take the "nothing but Koshi is Innocent Child" name. Anyway. I also crumbed it during the day already. On December 11 2013 19:01 Koshi wrote: But I really need to stop focussing on MZ. We can lynch more scum. On December 11 2013 19:48 Koshi wrote: rayn, VE died and I still don't think you are scum really. How crazy is that? So let's be friends. I shall pinky promise to you and only you that I am town. Are you sure that MZ is not scum? Because. Today. Scums needs to die. Don't know why I need to prove that I know about my item. This time hosts didn't say anything about slight modifications. | ||
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On December 12 2013 07:17 jaybrundage wrote: Are you referring to another game? Or are you talking about this one? Last game he also had his Mason partner as towniest town in the game. While his mason partner was scum and just like in this game rayn called a lot of people scum. I guess I could go all the way back to Sicilian but I was SK there so maybe harder to spot. But anyway. rayn totes town. Risen meh. Can kill. Should kill. | ||
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Risen+MZ will be my 2 votes once JAT activates double lynch. But I can reread on Risen. | ||
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On December 12 2013 19:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: If that's your reasoning for townreading someone i would like you to elaborate on your town read on Onegu, because he NEVER talks about ANYTHING that's currently going on in thread. The only reason I got him as town is because he made a really good case that EVERYBODY ignored and because I don't think scum Onegu would make it. I felt a drive when I read the case, so I am sure that Onegu felt a bigger drive (aka tunnel) when he wrote it. | ||
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Also, if there is an SK, be a cool SK like myself and shoot scum in the future. Thx. | ||
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On December 12 2013 20:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: koshi what are your thoughts on a roffles lynch? I have read his latest post. I also had a wtf-moment on his "scumslip". I don't know. I do know I am going to vote you. The second one shouldn't be your biggest scumread or it will make me look bad. We don't want that now do we? | ||
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On December 12 2013 20:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: So let's look at the case: I don't even look at the case because the answer and the answer to it is far more alignment indicative from both parties: 2 & 4: Lazy, not scum, as Onegu himself says in (4). Actually points (2) and (4)directly contradict each other. 3: misrepresentation 5: not a big deal, Onegu says this does not make Odin scum 6: retracts from this one 7: see (2) and (4). Did Onegu ever try to push a lynch on Odin? Does Onegu seem like he has "strong feelings" on anyone? So my question is, how is the case good again? It is quite clear that you didn't read the case. Onegu calls out Odin on point 2 & 4 for making a case on Kush that proves Kush is lazy but not necessairly scum. But that is not my point. My point is that scum Onegu is more likely to buss teammates with a good but not too good case. Scum Onegu is unlikely to make a pretty awesome case on Odin who turns out to be town. Could you just read the case entirely please? Tell me that comes from scum Onegu. | ||
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It comes down that Coag puts roffles in the lead here: + Show Spoiler + On December 07 2013 07:17 Mid or Feed wrote: Vote count: supersoft (1): Rean (0): JonnyLaw (0): austinmcc (5): Rean, OdinOfPergo (1): Onegu Koshi (0): kushm4sta (1): LSB, ticklishmusic (0): jcarlsoniv (3): Risen, gtrsrs, Chezinu (0): Meapak_Zipph (5): austinmcc, Mocsta, geript, Mig, Koshi Roffles (6): Oatsmaster, Roffles, supersoft, kushm4sta, jcarlsoniv, Coagulation Risen (0): VisceraEyes (0): Mig (1): Chezinu LSB (1): JonnyLaw Modkill zone (3): mkfuba07, OdinOfPergo, justanothertownie Roffles is currently set to be lynched. Voting thread is here. Please make sure all of your votes go in there, they don't count otherwise. Voting is mandatory. I missed JonnyLaw's vote on LSB earlier, I've updated all the vc's in this thread accordingly, and the latest (the one mirroring this one) in the regular thread) Day 2 ends in And then Coag making it close again here: + Show Spoiler + On December 07 2013 10:09 Mid or Feed wrote: Vote count: supersoft (1): Rean (0): JonnyLaw (0): austinmcc (5): Rean, OdinOfPergo (1): Onegu Koshi (0): kushm4sta (0): ticklishmusic (0): jcarlsoniv (3): Risen, gtrsrs, Chezinu (0): Meapak_Zipph (7): austinmcc, Mocsta, geript, Mig, Koshi, kushm4sta, Chezinu Roffles (6): Oatsmaster, Roffles, Risen (0): VisceraEyes (0): Mig (0): LSB (0): Modkill zone (4): mkfuba07, OdinOfPergo, justanothertownie, supersoft Meapak_Ziphh is currently set to be lynched. Voting thread is here. Please make sure all of your votes go in there, they don't count otherwise. Voting is mandatory. Day 2 ends in But for some reason they don't swap when it is clear that roffles is not getting lynched: On December 07 2013 12:01 Mid or Feed wrote: Vote count: supersoft (0): Rean (0): JonnyLaw (0): austinmcc (9): Rean, OdinOfPergo (1): Onegu Koshi (0): kushm4sta (0): ticklishmusic (0): jcarlsoniv (2): Chezinu (0): Meapak_Zipph (8): austinmcc, Mocsta, Roffles (6): Oatsmaster, Roffles, Risen (0): VisceraEyes (0): Mig (0): LSB (0): Modkill zone (1): OdinOfPergo, austinmcc is lynched. Voting thread is here. Please make sure all of your votes go in there, they don't count otherwise. Voting is mandatory. Day 2 ends in Damned. | ||
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On December 12 2013 20:34 justanothertownie wrote: Why would they swap Koshi? To save MZ? MZ was lynched if geript didn't vote last second. | ||
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On December 12 2013 21:54 kushm4sta wrote: im so fucking glad you asked me that. onlywonderboy kushm4sta Roffles Risen raynpelikoneet Mig Oatsmaster supersoft Koshi justanothertownie sandroba all of these poeples ar etowns Yes, I could see this being true. I can trust both you and rayn on Risen I guess. I don't know how you read Roffles but sure why not. You and rayn are pushing same targets then. Ok cool. This game is becoming clear. Not for me because I can only see MZ before my eyes but reading your list confirms a lot of towns in my mind. | ||
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On December 12 2013 22:06 Oatsmaster wrote: Koshi, what does your invention do? Double lynch. You can vote twice and top 2 dies. How do you miss things like this... | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On December 02 2013 19:12 Kurumi wrote: Koshi [2][1] Viktor Kurumi [4][6] Big Bad Wolf VisceraEyes [5][4] Lux jcarlsoniv [9][3] Mig [12][1] Urgot? JonnyLaw [14[11] Risen [15][15] StorrZerg [23][23] geript [24][24] Warwick? -> VT? austinmcc [6][3] Meapak_Ziphh [6][14] Sandroba Fiora? Kenpachi[8][15] VT? Rean [16][2] ?->VT bumatlarge [16][12] Tryndamere? BloddyC0bbler [17][5] Janna? justanothertownie marvellosity[7][2] gtrsrs [7][11] Kha'Zix -> VT OdinOfPergo [7][16] Karma -> VT Mocsta [1][5] ? ->VT supersoft [1][30] Oatsmaster [1][1] Cho'Gath ->VT raynpelikoneet [1][1] Shen Last because no numbers sent? kushm4sta ticklishmusic Taric Roffles Coagulation jaybrundage [Tabbz] Ezreal? LSB -> Tryndamere On December 04 2013 11:38 Mid or Feed wrote: Vote count: VisceraEyes (0): geript (2): Meapak_Zipph (0): jcarlsoniv (0): gtrsrs (1): Kurumi, Kurumi (0): bumatlarge (16): LSB, sandroba, marvellosity, Mig, kushm4sta (0): LSB (4): Mocsta (0): JonnyLaw (1): Oatsmaster (0): ticklishmusic (0): jaybrundage (4): kushm4sta, geript, Mocsta, OdinOfPergo Rean (1): austinmcc Modkill zone (1): StorrZerg bumatlarge is currently set to be lynched. Voting thread is here. Please make sure all of your votes go in there, they don't count otherwise. Voting is mandatory. Day 1 ends in On December 07 2013 12:01 Mid or Feed wrote: Vote count: supersoft (0): Rean (0): JonnyLaw (0): austinmcc (9): Rean, OdinOfPergo (1): Onegu Koshi (0): kushm4sta (0): ticklishmusic (0): jcarlsoniv (2): Chezinu (0): Meapak_Zipph (8): austinmcc, Mocsta, Roffles (6): Oatsmaster, Roffles, Risen (0): VisceraEyes (0): Mig (0): LSB (0): Modkill zone (1): OdinOfPergo, austinmcc is lynched. Voting thread is here. Please make sure all of your votes go in there, they don't count otherwise. Voting is mandatory. Day 2 ends in On December 10 2013 10:55 Mid or Feed wrote: Vote count: Meapak_Zipph (1): Koshi, Coagulation (19): Onegu, kushm4sta (1): Koshi (2): jaybrundage (0): supersoft (0): Modkill zone (0): Coagulation is set to be lynched. Voting thread is here. Please make sure all of your votes go in there, they don't count otherwise. Voting is mandatory. Day 3 ends in | ||
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On December 12 2013 23:28 Koshi wrote: This is not even close to helpful: + Show Spoiler + On December 02 2013 19:12 Kurumi wrote: Koshi [2][1] Viktor Kurumi [4][6] Big Bad Wolf VisceraEyes [5][4] Lux jcarlsoniv [9][3] Mig [12][1] Urgot? JonnyLaw [14[11] Risen [15][15] StorrZerg [23][23] geript [24][24] Warwick? -> VT? austinmcc [6][3] Meapak_Ziphh [6][14] Sandroba Fiora? Kenpachi[8][15] VT? Rean [16][2] ?->VT bumatlarge [16][12] Tryndamere? BloddyC0bbler [17][5] Janna? justanothertownie marvellosity[7][2] gtrsrs [7][11] Kha'Zix -> VT OdinOfPergo [7][16] Karma -> VT Mocsta [1][5] ? ->VT supersoft [1][30] Oatsmaster [1][1] Cho'Gath ->VT raynpelikoneet [1][1] Shen Last because no numbers sent? kushm4sta ticklishmusic Taric Roffles Coagulation jaybrundage [Tabbz] Ezreal? LSB -> Tryndamere On December 04 2013 11:38 Mid or Feed wrote: Vote count: VisceraEyes (0): geript (2): Meapak_Zipph (0): jcarlsoniv (0): gtrsrs (1): Kurumi, Kurumi (0): bumatlarge (16): LSB, sandroba, marvellosity, Mig, kushm4sta (0): LSB (4): Mocsta (0): JonnyLaw (1): Oatsmaster (0): ticklishmusic (0): jaybrundage (4): kushm4sta, geript, Mocsta, OdinOfPergo Rean (1): austinmcc Modkill zone (1): StorrZerg bumatlarge is currently set to be lynched. Voting thread is here. Please make sure all of your votes go in there, they don't count otherwise. Voting is mandatory. Day 1 ends in On December 07 2013 12:01 Mid or Feed wrote: Vote count: supersoft (0): Rean (0): JonnyLaw (0): austinmcc (9): Rean, OdinOfPergo (1): Onegu Koshi (0): kushm4sta (0): ticklishmusic (0): jcarlsoniv (2): Chezinu (0): Meapak_Zipph (8): austinmcc, Mocsta, Roffles (6): Oatsmaster, Roffles, Risen (0): VisceraEyes (0): Mig (0): LSB (0): Modkill zone (1): OdinOfPergo, austinmcc is lynched. Voting thread is here. Please make sure all of your votes go in there, they don't count otherwise. Voting is mandatory. Day 2 ends in On December 10 2013 10:55 Mid or Feed wrote: Vote count: Meapak_Zipph (1): Koshi, Coagulation (19): Onegu, kushm4sta (1): Koshi (2): jaybrundage (0): supersoft (0): Modkill zone (0): Coagulation is set to be lynched. Voting thread is here. Please make sure all of your votes go in there, they don't count otherwise. Voting is mandatory. Day 3 ends in The only thing that is interesting is how many scumreads there are on Roffles Day 2. Knowing 2 scum on that wagon already flipped I have my doubts on there being even more scum. Just so unlikely. | ||
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On December 13 2013 00:08 jcarlsoniv wrote: does anyone happen to have totals of damage done to everyone thus far? I would think that people on the lower end of the "damage taken spectrum" would be more likely to be scum, no? Yeah lets not talk too much about how much hp we have left. Pretty sure nobody is on such a low hp total that they are excused for a lynch. | ||
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On December 13 2013 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't know, was anyone roleblocked on N2? Marv/Lion King | ||
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Do we know who did that? ugh I am forgetting too much stuff. The shrooms from Roffles could have been triggered by The Lion King and the checks fro mmy item. Causing him to die D3. Roffles do those Shrooms also RB? | ||
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If he would play protown I would.not.vote him. But he isnt. Kinda strange I am not dead when mz is 3p though. Maybe he really wants to kill scummer and he knows I am not. | ||
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LSB and JayB got like a private thing going on in which they call each other scum. JayB, why isn't he scum? He wrote stuff in red. Will vote MZ/JayB atm. I know I am sheeping LSB, the guy with the most votes. ##vote: MZ ##vote: jaybrunage | ||
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On December 13 2013 02:16 LSB wrote: I just want MZ dead. I don't care how you guys do it Start providing a million reads and shine. Make it your best 8 hours ever. | ||
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On December 13 2013 02:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: This is a constructive post. I just love how the reasons to kill me shift every so often. Now we're killing me because I didn't get my ulti as my second ability -_- They don't shift. They pile up. It's a big pile now. | ||
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On December 13 2013 03:04 Oatsmaster wrote: I beg you guys to reconsider the MZ lynch. He is going to fucking flip town. There is no way scum Coag flips out like that and throws SO MUCH suspicion onto his teammate. None. 0. LSB and Roffles. Go Town!. Everybody: "OMG COAG JUST CLAIMED SCUM. LYNCH HIM" Meapak_Ziphh: 'ugh, I am being nuked. I am going to write a paper. Cya laterz guys" | ||
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On December 13 2013 03:29 jaybrundage wrote: I didn't even notice LSB until he made a terrible case on me. When I responded to his shit case. He didn't even address it. He has no intention to discern my alignment. So he's scum. Why are you calling me scum Koshi. I did write stuff in red. Is that your case? That's a big part of my case. But There is also that you weren't on Roffles D2. While LSB was. I have major issues believing 3 scummers voted in a row for the same guy. If you add jcarlsoniv then you have 4. Kinda crazy. | ||
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jaybrundage could you tell me which player you are? And in what team you are? | ||
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On December 13 2013 04:12 jcarlsoniv wrote: Yeah, I considered that. Hey Koshi, with all this discussion of 2nd abilities being ults - have you claimed your second ability, and what does it do? Promotes a VT and he can pick a already flipped player his power. But I can't do that and invent same time. | ||
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2) Koshi is awesome. Did I already not vote for scum this game? Only time will tell Jaybrundage why so mad before lynch bro? | ||
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Now we read all dead guys filter and conclude rayn is scum. | ||
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1) defends MZ without reasoning. 2) says Onegu is town after Odin case, then tries to smear me because I say Onegu is town. 3) Onegu main priority was figuring me out and not rayn. Even though he claims to always be able to read rayn. | ||
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5) The 25 damage he took taunting Mocsta and his reaction to it. (Mocsta scum --> didn't stick --> Risen scum) 6) Out of Nowhere Onegu is scum and rayn votes him. Really nothing in his filter to prove Onegu is scum. He knew he could park his vote there and look good. (Doesn't really look good tbh, but he didn't know he would flip) | ||
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FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK Didn't Chezinu say rayn never vistited me??????? On December 13 2013 17:28 justanothertownie wrote: 7)He defended JL pretty hard too and he wasn't even on the coag wagon (this point isn't as strong). | ||
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Look from where his Onegu is scum read comes. rayn is on so many people on D4 (Mocsta for taunt, Risen for ability) but suddenly he is on Onegu and sticks to Onegu. Look at how times he repeats his reasons for Mocsta scum, Risen scum, supersoft scum, Koshi scum. Then look at the reasons given for Onegu. rayn was all like "fuck this shitty scumteam, MZ is the only one that at least tries to post a little little bit, I don't want MZ gone, Kill Onegu, he aint trying at all" | ||
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rayn cuz we bros. Can you tell us if there is an SK. We will leave you alive and first search for the SK, and then you use all the KP you have to find the SK. PS: I am not the SK. | ||
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On December 04 2013 16:31 Promethelax wrote: Follow up to my earlier post D1 sign up list the current sign up list after n1 is:
Which hopefully means that there are no day time list switch powers. Based on the numbers of replacements I'm curious to look at those individuals in particular who have replaced in, with so many people replacing I find myself nervous about replacements in general and would like to work to clear/indict those slots first because of how little must have been offered by the originals and even more so because so many of the replacements are not known for terribly stellar town play; all five have the ability to play well but equally have the ability to play poorly. I've seen too many games where a replacement makes it to endgame and is lynched/let go because of their predecessor. My desire would be to get reads on the five replacements from the players who are known to play town well in this game I'd say marv, sandro, VE, SS and Rayn. I'd like reads from the five of you on the five replacement slots. My reads on the five I'm most curious of based mostly on filter diving and a little on thread context (not my preferred method of finding scum but I can't get my teeth into the thread somehow, its just too much when I wasn't there to think about stuff while it was happening). I looked at the lynch and went back to the filters. Kush I feel good about kush, he cared about the lynch and defended his town read. He didn't flip on that read even when said read attacked him for it. He stayed calm and collected in the discussion which is so not scum kush. There was a post of Kush's which felt lonely (okay I know this is silly, stick with me) and I don't think a scum kush would post it; this kid is an active player whatever else can be said about him and in his scum games he is all up in that scum qt. If I had to makes a guess on kush at this point in this game I'd say both that he is town and that he is playing better than usual. My only qualm is how diplomatic kush is playing, I'm choosing to believe (and I think the evidence supports) that it is a better town game from him but it may be a new scum style. On the five part scale kush is a 2 (1= confirmed town all the way down to 5 = preferred lynch) + Show Spoiler [Supporting points on the above  +Bum read On December 04 2013 00:03 kushm4sta wrote: DO NOT LYNCH BUM. I think it's literally impossible for scum to think this way. His thought process is so freaking town. continues to defend Bum (with logic) On December 04 2013 01:11 kushm4sta wrote: case against bum: contradictions flinging vague shit Town do both of these things all the time. In the hypothetical situation that bum was town, I would expect behavior that was tryhard and scared. That comes from his level of experience and his personality. "Contradictions" and "flinging vague shit" are only scumtells when the player is not scared (a more experienced player) and not tryhard. 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The bluster in those posts is strong and a blustery player is trying hard to put themselves in a position in town, not necessarily scummy but raises red flags. Bum mentions (in one of the posts in the spoiler under Kush's name) that he thinks LSB is better than he is playing in this game, the bluster means that LSB thinks so too. I like that LSB followed through with the folly that is his claiming plan but it hurts my brain to think that he thought enacting a claiming plan without getting town ready to act on this claiming plan was worthwhile. At best individual roleclaims mean nothing. At worst they inform scum as to how to act. LSB's single minded devotion to the mass claiming/number gathering is interesting. I like it. It needs to be done in a pyp game (just as the list managing needs to be done in this game particularly) town needs these things done and LSB doing them is pro town!! If LSB fails to do anything else and does not catch scum through his list analysis he is scum, the behavious he has exibited is that of a townie however it is easy to fake as scum and he hasn't done other things which scum cannot fake. However for the moment I'm happy to have a player approaching the game though the analytic paths. LSB is an old school player and his play reflects that old school mindset. I've written a lot on LSB because my thoughts were pretty varied. All in all I'd take him as town for now with a little mark next to his name to make sure to look into his participation in the future and whether he continues to focus only on mechanics. rating: 2.5 + Show Spoiler [citations] + Defensive reply contradictions On December 02 2013 09:27 LSB wrote: I wouldn't say it is totally wrong. Ever since town decided the best idea was to ban out the obvious mafia roles, which was a horrible idea because those would be easy mafia kills, roles do not = aliment. However, giving mafia the power roles free reign is an incredibly stupid idea and come day I will be roleclaiming and voting anyone who doesnt LSB's number focus On December 04 2013 03:02 LSB wrote: I'll just post it again to clear up confusion If you are vanilla town it is important for you to reveal what role you tried to take If you can deal damage it is important for you to reveal what role you tried to take If you are DT/Medic/Tracker it is highly suggested, but I will forgive you if you don't, to reveal what role you take We need to know if Janna, Heimerdinger, Karthus and other roles that have the ability to increase mafia KP are in the game. Koshi [2][1] - Viktor Kurumi [4][6] - Warwick VisceraEyes [5][4] - Lux jcarlsoniv [9][3] - Soft Blue claim, cannot deal damage Mig [12][1] JonnyLaw [14][11] Risen [15][15] - Karma StorrZerg [23][23] geript [24][24] Warwick? -> VT? austinmcc [6][3] Meapak_Ziphh [6][14] Sandroba - Fiora Kenpachi[8][15] - Blue Claim Rean [16][2] Lux-> VT bumatlarge [16][12] -> Soft Blue Claim Onegu [17][5] Soft Blue Claim, probably a power role. Claim was done by BC justanothertownie marvellosity [7][2] - Blue Claim gtrsrs [7][11] Kha'Zix -> VT OdinOfPergo [7][16] Karma -> VT Mocsta [1][5] ? ->VT supersoft [1][30] Oatsmaster [1][1] Cho'Gath ->VT raynpelikoneet [1][1] - Shen kushm4sta ticklishmusic Taric Roffles Coagulation jaybrundage [Tabbz] Ezreal? LSB -> Tryndamere Onegu Oh God! I want to lynch Onegu on this filter. And I'd hate myself for lynching him on this filter. I am so sorry for what I am about to say! Onegu's whole filter is a discussion of his son, the whole thing is a sympathy grab and bares no relevance to the game. He spends a lot of time apologizing and none playing. His only post is an I'll sheep Rayn post. Double donkey fuck. I hate this filter and I know its totally possible form it that Onegu is an honest townie. The thing is I also know that its as likely he is a dishonest scummer. I know nothing about Onegu: not a hard scum read but I wouldn't mind him being vig hit/lynched. He has a mark next to his name that says he had better shape the fuck up. I know he newbied his way to mafia victory in the past, he cannot be allowed to sympathy his way into endgame. rating: 4 + Show Spoiler [Onegu's one post] + On December 04 2013 05:00 Onegu wrote: So Im on page 66 rigjt now and it 3am. I promise I will catch up tomorrow, but deadline is in 7 hours. So I am right now confident in my ability to read rayn and believe he is town as he was the first person to really start scum hunting. So I am going to sheep him and consolidate, as close to where I am reading people said it was really important not to have outlander votes so people can analyze it. So I should be up before deadline amd get somemore reading in. ##Vote:bumatlarge Coag A little like the above, Coag has done nothing. Coag may do nothing as town or scum either way, he claimed the birthday card. Since birthdays are only one day I give him a chance to shape up. Assuming he participates well in the day 2 proceedings I'll forgive him for his less than stellar start. I hope he shapes up as I've gotten to like him recently, he did a rather good job as a host in the OMGus game I played and was generally a pleasant dude to be around; I'd like to get to see him play. Because I expect this kind of play from Coag at least a little I want to give him a 3 rather than a 4 but in reality I wouldn't be too torn up over his death so in the end his rating is 4 Promethelax cool kid, totes town. Probably better than you. You should listen to him. rated 1 Prome, shoutout. | ||
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On December 07 2013 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is like a Hail scum! vote list barring Koshi. Trying to descredit MZ wagon when it was young. 8) I was not protected by rayn n1. Did you see how much posts he used on getting 25 damage himself when taunting Mocsta. He used his ULTI on me to prevent damage for 4 days. I get damage Day 1. --> rayn almost ignores it. | ||
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On December 06 2013 01:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: I hate the JonnyLaw case. And the votes on him. sandroba can you take a look at Mocsta's case and tell me what do you think of it. I think the case is a trainwreck and has nothing to do with someone being scum. It's most likely based on what Prome said and Mocsta does not even bring up Prome's thoughts in the first place he makes the case. When people do not agree he goes "but hey look, confirmed town Prome said this too". Like he wants to do his own case but it's not his own at all.. And i do not agree with it. Pretty sure rayn wouldn't mind at this point we just lynch him for trying to save all the scummers. | ||
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On December 13 2013 19:44 kushm4sta wrote: how about you look at someone who wasn't for OR against the mz wagon, like mocsta Nha Mocsta really townie imo. lot's of pages, always thinking like thread thinks, helps thread forward without trying to grab towncred. | ||
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On December 11 2013 10:44 Mocsta wrote: Hhmmmm.. I forgot about the hp check If I recall correctly. Jl took dmg night 1.. so maybe it's best to focus him as he's already softened. | ||
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On December 13 2013 20:00 kushm4sta wrote: koshi remember this time between us please. because I am going to remind you about it postgame when I gloat about being right about mocsta. I shall reply to that with some quotes about you being right about Coag. Why is Mocsta scum? It looks like there is something omguslike between you 2. But I don't see the scumminess. | ||
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On December 13 2013 20:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: haha. again i made a perfectly valid case on scum D1 and from all the people marv shut it down. marv <3 oh the irony in this game compared to last one.. who? | ||
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On December 13 2013 22:19 jcarlsoniv wrote: I think there might be 7 scum, cuz M_Z was MonteCristo (who is a caster who has a super hard on for SKT), which means we have a bit more work to do. damned. | ||
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I agree 100% Mocsta/Risen/Jay | ||
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For tomorrow I shall make a triple death ray. | ||
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Mocsta/Risen/Jay | ||
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Risen best bet to lynch. JayB to shoot. Risen can take townie with him in the grave with link. | ||
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On December 14 2013 00:17 Risen wrote: Wait onegu's rb was a one shot? ... That's what it says. | ||
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On December 14 2013 00:26 Risen wrote: Can't use the same mantra'd ability twice in a row. That's it. Sent in that I'm linking with jayb. All kp on me plz I can't wait to be out of this game. Sorry rayn Who are your scumreads? | ||
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On December 14 2013 00:30 Risen wrote: You, jcarl for giving me the lantern, mocsta for lying about his 50kp, rayn for potentially lying about targeting mocsta, in that order. Oh and super but that's probably because he's awful. Lurkers, too. All the people! | ||
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2) Risen as town clicks the lantern and hopes he links himself with scum jcarlsoniv and jayB. Us shooting jcarl kills all 3 of them. That's where we are, I think. PS: I found rayn his second spell and I think he is town now. | ||
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The 300 shield thingie doesn't connect them it seems. | ||
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You should have just not use the lantern and die. That would have been "optimal". But hey, got to play with the toys you get. I would probably to something similar as well. | ||
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On December 14 2013 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Mig this can't be true because Risen targeted me N2 and i took damage from supersoft's card. It is still a mystery why i took 100 dmg when i was supposed to take 50. Did you ask the hosts? | ||
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ps: stop ignoring me. I am totes sorry I wanted to lynch you for a couple hours. You wanted to lynch me for multiple days. | ||
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On December 14 2013 00:19 Risen wrote: What's so difficult to understand about my abilities mig? 300dmg shield Mason link 150dmg shield on target and I Mason+ jail someone On December 14 2013 01:00 Risen wrote: I lied I'm not that mean even when I'm upset. ach night you may use either Resolve or Inspire. Resolve - At night, you chain target player to you and also mason him non-anonymously. Abilities that affect one of you also affect the other. (Abilities that fit the 'Items/trap' designation do not follow this rule.) Lasts 2 phases. Mantra bonus: The target is unable to perform active actions that require him to visit another player. Inspire - At night, you can shield any other player with a strength of 300 HP. This shield lasts only for the phase in which it is used. Mantra bonus: Reduce the shield amount (150) and may target yourself and another player. You may not target the same player on consecutive nights with either ability. Mantra - Nobody likes Karma but she's come to terms with it and just meditates to strengthen her resolve instead. Buffs your own abilities as described. Usable every time you would use an ability at night. You cannot use the same ability on consecutive nights, but you CAN use the ability and then the Mantra'd version. You have 900 HP So the first night you linked with rayn you could have both have died because you had 0 protection? Didn't you always claim that the linked guy and yourself had a shield (first quote) | ||
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On December 14 2013 02:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is why i don't bother talking to you. In this game you have had 2 reads before D4, "Onegu totes town and Odin totes scum, Onegu case so good". And you fucking dare to call me scum MVP. hmmm. you are a difficult one. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On December 09 2013 11:24 Mocsta wrote: Extending from Koshi's take on MZ<-->Coag interplay This makes zero fucking sense Again for the goldfish memory #1 - As Koshi pointed out. It was semi-reasonable for Coag to nuke MZ, given that MZ was requesting KP on Coag. #2 - MZ was a reasonable nuke choice based on him being under suspicion by several townies. I think this is exactly why you specified MZ was the nuke choice in thread. #3 - If you had to PM the action, *WHY* declare a nuke on MZ in the first place.. If one of them had to talk.. why not ask them a question, and then once they are responding - PM the host. That way you guarantee the right nuke selection. #4 - (WIFOM) But I would think its safe to assume the nuke PM went through approximately when the thread action was declared. It is clear, MZ was the only poster around this time. In fact, Fuba previous post to that was 3hrs prior. Thus, for Coag to *not* be bullshitting, Coag had to submit the thread action @ 15:40; and PM it @ 15:42 ( = MZ last post). I find this unlikely. Normal action is PM first, then thread. I have no idea why Coag would fake a nuke claim on MZ, and then nuke openly Fuba. I can only assume for now it will be explained by the role PM. But its clear the process behind the nuke is total bullshit & deceptive ==> scum usage vs town usage. Further my two association reads: #1 See how distant is he talking about this. Its great he see's no town motivation; but this doesnt explain why he see's no motivation. This is just echoing thread sentiment. Pls Lynch #2 Coag who has nothing in his filter suddenly feels the need to give Kush some praise? Coags post is completely non-alignment indicative. And Kush is giving the stupidest reason possible to treat this post as alignment indicative (i.e. lack of respect --> which is far from a quantitative method). Again, poor/weak reasoning to give Coag a town lean; and then leaves himself a backdoor to vote Coag. Pls lynch | ||
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did you tell Risen you were going to taunt Mocsta? I read your mason but forgot. | ||
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On December 14 2013 03:09 Mig wrote: I could be ok going after jay also. But if Risen is mafia why did rayn take 25 damage? Mafia wouldn't shoot rayn if they knew risen wasn't going to use his shield right? Koshi we cant believe anything Risen says if we think he is mafia. There is no way to know whether he is actually linked. Looking at jaybs filter he went insanely hard after Austin. Which helped to save MZ. Certainly pretty suspicious. And I have always been suspicious that he supposedly tried to take lux with one of the final picks. Should have been obvious by then somebody else would try to take lux. rayn took 25 damage because Risen is scum and they tried to frame Mocsta. There is no way that Mocsta is a caster creep tbh, I read what you said but why would Mocsta lie about being a caster creep if he is a siege creep. Such a strange lie. Look at how coincidental this is. 1) Mocsta claims a caster creep for no reason at all while he is a siege creep 2) Risen "forgets" to do his night actions. 3) rayn taunts Mocsta = rayn and Risen get 25 damage that can only be from Mocsta. Way more logical is because scummers are sneaky bastards: 1) Mocsta is a siege creep. 2) Risen didn't forget his shield, he just used it on a scummer. 3) Risen knows rayn will taunt Mocsta and frames Mocsta by doing 25 damage to rayn. (I don't know how much hp Mocsta has atm, but it should be 1k right? he got 150 damage somewhere? The first time he said he had 1k hp was maybe to trick the scummers.) | ||
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On December 14 2013 05:29 Risen wrote: Mig is really, really dumb for not understanding how my abilities work rofl. Pretty sure you didnt understand them for 75% of the game or you have been lying to us. | ||
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Could those 2 shine some light on their remaining scumteam. 3 are left. Add reasoning as well. 48 hours is a long time. Would be cool if good posts pop up. Sadly I am a bit in afk mode. No posts for a while now. | ||
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Dont know why people vote other than these 2 without adressing link. I have to lynch Risen cuz he is terrible if town. I am town, I got rayn as town. Risen wants to kill us both... I simply cannot vote for soniv. Got soniv also as town tbh. Mocsta as well. If Risen wasnt such a fuck that wants to kill me and himself if he is town (because one day scum will kill us) I would vote JayB becuase he is only scumread I have that was on Ausstin D2 lynch. There had to be more scummers on Austin imo. | ||
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But with 7 scummers I thought earlier there would be 3 I guess. Ok. This is fine then. Still afkish. | ||
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I guess Risen easy mislynch but dont know if scum would take the risk with town Risen. Fuck I hate he didnt use shield on Mig. Shouldnt have given gun to him but I really thought Mig would survive due to Risen shield. Pretended or not... | ||
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On December 16 2013 03:13 justanothertownie wrote: Seriously Koshi. You always speculate about the setup/host decisions and you are always wrong. When will you finally stop it? Don't you think 3 scum is a bit much? 7 total is not that much with so much imba roles. Pretty sure there are 3 left. | ||
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On December 16 2013 04:16 justanothertownie wrote: May I ask what happened to your rayn read? It has gone away as soon as it came up. Like the whole thing with the 25 damage. You could just see rayn not understanding from where it came and go Mocsta --> Risen and it was just too much to fake as scum. That and rayn just isn't scum. | ||
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On December 16 2013 04:53 jaybrundage wrote: Guys, Koshi JAT, What do you think of Mocsta lying about his health? No one seemed to comment on it. Is it indicative of him being scum? What do you think is his motive for doing it? So he said he had 1k hp while he had 1150 hp... Pretty sure we all lie about our HP to trick the scummers. | ||
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On December 16 2013 04:57 Risen wrote: But I'm not allowed to. That's not why I think you are scum. 1) You want to kill me. I am town. 2) You don't want to protect townies. All the other things could also come from town Risen because recently I saw town Risen is bad for town, but this game you have been really anti town. You should never fucking link people, you should save people. | ||
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On December 16 2013 05:10 Risen wrote: And we have top tier scum hunting in the form of "you don't do what I'd do with that role so you're scum" (though to be fair that's half the reason I find you scummy, the other half being rayn picking you up and dropping you fit no reason) You are up for lynch the next day and you decide to not protect an obvious town but you link yourself to rayn while you knew you were protected by KP from lantern. It's so fucking dumb. I would alwyas lynch jayB over you but you are so arfdgdfghdfdfhdfh | ||
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On December 16 2013 08:07 jaybrundage wrote: JAT assuming its 3 people who are scum whats your scum team consist of? Anyone else feel free to answer. I already answered that. What did you think of my answer? Also who are your 3? | ||
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On December 16 2013 08:19 jaybrundage wrote: Hm Risen Mocsta For the last one I think its someone not suspected much so far so probably SS/Rayn What do you think of Sandroba and Kushmaster? | ||
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On December 16 2013 09:34 Mocsta wrote: k, im here for 20min For those questioning my activity levels. Unfortunately its going to be like this till about Wednesday. We are heading into Xmas break, and last week a bunch of ppl got laid off. Job >>> Mafia. Mocsta, please nail scum with Mocsta wisdom. We are lacking wisdom in this thread. I also got you as town hut many dont. We need you. | ||
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Last 3 scummers. I will probably push a Oats lynch tomorrow. jayB should be diening to supersoft and all other people hitting him. Oats is allowed to be wrong. But not like this: Why is he scum and not bad town? Even bad town must be right once in a while, and everytime Oats was wrong, it pushed scum agenda. On December 07 2013 01:06 Oatsmaster wrote: nonononono. Lets not fucking lynch MZ, the towniest dude day 2. Nope. No. Stop. Right. Now. Lynch Roffles for not doing SHIT and just pointing stuff that looks 'bad' but not following up on anything, just content to sit back and chill out and watch town mislynch mz. On December 10 2013 13:01 Oatsmaster wrote: scum:: Kush Roffles LSB Rean maybe scum: Mocsta Jay On December 12 2013 14:36 Oatsmaster wrote: There have been like 0 cases on MZ, where is all the push coming from? Sandro? Sandro has been consistently wrong the whole game except for JL. Or Sandro is scum. Probably not though, unless he somehow found out how to play scum properly On December 12 2013 20:50 Oatsmaster wrote: Is the whole scumteam trying to lynch MZ? Lol all in huh On December 13 2013 03:04 Oatsmaster wrote: I beg you guys to reconsider the MZ lynch. He is going to fucking flip town. There is no way scum Coag flips out like that and throws SO MUCH suspicion onto his teammate. None. 0. LSB and Roffles. Go Town!. | ||
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Town. For all reasons. Towniest town that towned. Hosts can end the game right now and give scum victory if JAT is scum for me. Good scumhunting, commitment, good night actions. And not because he is scum and knows stuff. I can see the townie mindset. I would be very impressed if this guy is scum. I am already quite impressed by his townplay. Do that *1000 if he is scum. soniv is town for not trying to be sneaky with his lantarn and protect scummers. Soniv has been open about the usage and even though he somewhat ruined townie plans, this clearly came from a town perspective. kush is town for these 2 lists and his general playstyle. Would take to lylo and not lynch. On December 12 2013 01:38 kushm4sta wrote: JonnyLaw BloodyC0bbler Onegu Mocsta jaybrundage Koshi this scumteam is like what im thinking maybe On December 12 2013 21:54 kushm4sta wrote: im so fucking glad you asked me that. onlywonderboy kushm4sta Roffles Risen raynpelikoneet Mig Oatsmaster supersoft Koshi justanothertownie sandroba all of these poeples ar etowns rayn is town for playing and thinking as town, early commitment to the game and it only weakened last day. I know he is going to do shit after today as well. atm I would lynch him before the above 3 just because we expect our vets/good players to have solved the game at lylo. supersoft Got him as town since start. If jayB is town. This guy takes his place. But I got him as town. Could revisit but I hope I don't have to after jayB turns scum. The stuff with the nuking MZ on D2 with RB card when MZ did ulti but he got fucked by rayn taunting him. I can't believe supersoft doing that to MZ there. Except when supersoft lied and actually targetted somebody else ofc... He is smart enough to lie. But I don't think he is lying. Like I said. We expect stuff from our vets/good players. that's why I put him here. Mocsta Got him as town. Right emotions, good posts. He just feels town to me. Can't be helped. Would not lynch. He will probably do nothing till Wednesday like he said. But Mocsta can do magic in a short time, force him to do magic, if it sounds like magic, follow his lead. I would sadly lynch him before all the kids above him here. Simply because he is the least townie at this moment. | ||
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I somewhat expect to be night killed tonight. Either: WIFOM Inventor role... promised activity (cuz I am always active bitches) But if I am not dead I will push Oats ---> Sandroba and I hope to see jayB die to supersoft cards. | ||
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Basically for every hour you spend doing decent scumhunting I will ass another hour to bounce ideas. go!go!go! | ||
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I got him as scum after that comment about Risen yesterday. I read his filter and Sandroba was always right after day 1. Look at all those 1 liners and sandroba is always right but there is no reasoning. There must be a point in your mind that if you are always fucking right that you figured out the game. He was wrong and he gave reasoning pre D3, D3 and after he was right about everything and there is no reasoning at all. I don't buy it. He is scum. I also lack any other scumreads. | ||
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Just look at his filter, there is commitment and reads and reasoning from page 1-8 but he is wrong about his reads. Then you get the post "amagad scummers you guys are all to good" and sandroba his activity drops a ton which is page 9 and 10. Then from page 11-now he isn't wrong about anything anymore but he isn't putting any reasoning in there at all. He is just correct. "Shoot JL, he is scum" "Risen is town" "MZ is scum RB" On December 12 2013 16:32 sandroba wrote: ok I have a theory that MZ is the mafia RB. wukong does have a stunning strike and it would be more balanced that way. MZ claimed a 1 shot underpowered ability and his public one is 2 shot. It doesn't add up period. Then there is that he votes roffles and MZ and focusses on the MZ is scum stuff but is silent about why exactly roffles. Also wtf was it with all the talk about an SK? I don't like it. | ||
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On December 16 2013 18:20 supersoft wrote: sandroba organized the JL nightkill... At that point of time, JL was under no pressure. I didn't even notice he was here until sandroba pointed him out. Yes I know. But there were 6 scummers left and I guess that bussing 1 is not the worst thing in the world. There is no reason at all for why sandroba used his ulti on JL. On December 11 2013 12:09 sandroba wrote: I ulted JL - MZ/Rean/Roffles/LSB. Should do 250 to JL, and 4x75 randomly at the 4 other targets. I also took no damage. JL why don't you claim your role? Then the first reason to kill JL is because he doesn't want to give his role to sandroba? On December 11 2013 12:18 sandroba wrote: I wonder why this man won't claim. Hmmm. I'm gonna have to disagree with you Mig and would like JL dead asap. So we can move on and discuss MZ/LSB Give me 1 piece of reasoning sandroba gave why JL is scum. After sandroba organizes JL to take a shitton of damage including sandroba his ulti he goes like "well now that he doesn't want to claim I guess he needs to die asap" If I had a read and organised a kill on somebody I would be a bit more certain than that, not claiming would be more a final straw than the first reason. | ||
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On December 16 2013 18:49 supersoft wrote: I write my exam and i'll be back this evening to look at the things... I mean sacrifizing one scummer... yes hmm Well I hope you are town and jayB scum. The other way around would be unfortunate. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On December 10 2013 07:16 kushm4sta wrote: COAG IS NOT MAFIA. Think about his story. It is impossible to make up a lie like that as quickly as he did. On December 10 2013 07:27 kushm4sta wrote: lynch coag and prove my amazing townread ability, which frankly is more important to me than winning this game ##vote coag ^lynching town ftw | ||
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I remember Risen/rayn getting 100 each on N2. Nothing more. On December 16 2013 21:41 Mocsta wrote: Koshi regarding your reads. This is my reads update post-flip. If you had to pick 3. Which ones? We kinda can use some reasoning. | ||
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If everbody could do that I am pretty sure we can get out of this inactivity slump and give scum a run for their money. Thx! | ||
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On December 16 2013 22:38 Oatsmaster wrote: so im scum for being bad? Bad case koshi. Scummy case Koshi Just give me 3 names + reasoning Oatsie. It aint easy, I got too many good townread and you are simply more scummy than Mocsta or Kush in my eyes. Does being wrong make you town? Are you saying that? | ||
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On December 16 2013 22:55 Oatsmaster wrote: Im saying being wrong has no link to my alignment I don't have much to judge you on. So I judge you on your reads through this game. What in your filter makes you town, Oats? | ||
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On December 16 2013 23:40 Oatsmaster wrote: Everything and nothing. Why dont you make up something so we can laugh at you? hmm? What are you trying to accomplish? I am trying to get town back on rails, you might disagree that you shouldn't be on my scumlist, or even disagree with my entire list, but can you at least give some constructive feedback? This isn't working out Oats. You attacking me a bit is not going to help me drop that scumread off you. How are you helping me to correct that read on you? You aren't. Why? | ||
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On December 17 2013 00:16 Oatsmaster wrote: Because you are scum. Is it that hard to understand? Alright then Oats. I am not. But it is cool, you are either scum or your game has been terrible. I am going for scum. | ||
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On December 16 2013 10:04 sandroba wrote: Also you guys are retarded to think I would order a mass kill on JL for free with as much towncred that I had if I were scum. I was just away and my activity shall pick up tomorrow. ^ This guy is cashing in on JL kill. | ||
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On December 17 2013 04:44 jcarlsoniv wrote: What're your thoughts on JayB sandro? On December 17 2013 04:52 sandroba wrote: scum too, but I'm not 100% on him as I am on mocsta. I'm almost positive on him too though, but i don't want us to get sidetracked from the mocsta lynch. All game he was hiding behind my wrong reads to justify his voting and now he is playing the "you mislynched me as town before" to make me have second thoughts, while actually not contributing anything at all the whole game. If I die tonight you guys should 100% lynch mocsta first then move onto jay. I'm actually trying to find a 7th scum right now due to the 5 man lol team thing, which is bugging me. I'm down to oats/ss/jat, by elimination. I really think ss and jat are town so it's gotta be oats, but his 1,1 pick alongside with mocsta is making me nervous. ^ Sandroba talking about jayB and not JAT. | ||
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1) Use my item well but don't trust the guy I gave it to 100%. I mean, don't trust what the item does 100%. He can lie. 2) All my reads are neutral. Everybody is allowed to die in my eyes. Koshi has 0 scumreads in this game. | ||
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I would say confirm it and stop doing lantarn play rofl. I got 200 damage. | ||
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On December 17 2013 18:23 justanothertownie wrote: Maybe we kill the oats instead? Well. I shall look deeply into him. | ||
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jayB should be on less hp after hit by supersoft a lot, I do not know on how much he started because he never said what kind of VT he was (I think). Mocsta > jayB if you look at HP and you think both are scum. The only thing jayB has going for him is that he crumbed he was tabbz early. | ||
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That Sandroba case is really really good. +JAT comment on you early game. + Mig on your ass = Mocsta pretty scummy. | ||
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On December 17 2013 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you are really saying MZ got lynched because of your invention? It's not like people were suspicious of him and his counter-wagon austin was lynched the day before? Like i can turn this around, if you had not invented double lynch we had only lynced MZ and no LSB. See? Maybe, but LSB ended up with more votes than MZ. But sure. Inventions pretty useless, but not scummy. First one was pretty supertown, it can't be helped The Lion King went after MZ and MZ did ulti. (very likely) Second one was way better than your police radio. Because Police radio would have been truly useless. (very likely) Third one was double lynch which is pretty protown tbh. Fourth one went to Mig and Mig died... I guess that in theory I could have made a KP item and gave it to a scummer but try to prove that. Kinda interesting nobody does that now that I think of it. Fifth one is secretz. ^ Not antitown. Except when last 2 are atm in play to win the game for scum. protip: They aren't. | ||
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On December 17 2013 23:51 jcarlsoniv wrote: Your double lynch invention didn't give us an M_Z lynch - it allowed us to vote for multiple people. We got LSB in the crossfire. Your invention help town and scum equally. Congrats. Really? Double lynch is anti-town? Interesting. | ||
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Tell me what we would have learned with Police radio? You got 4 scum flips and a gazilion town flips. | ||
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On December 18 2013 00:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's not the point. I asked you what did we learn. You said the ambulance radio was far more useful than police radio would have been. What did we learn? How was the item useful? This is so stupid to discuss rayn. You fucking tell me "Koshi invent Police Radio or we lynch you". I try my fucking best to please you and unless you can prove to me that Ambulance radio is less useful than Police radio you should not blame me for that invention. If you would have said. Make a DT item and then I make the Ambulance radio I would admit that I was wrong. But you asked me to make Police radio and I made something better. Probably still bad but this had potential. Like knowing somebody got a lot of damage and than healers got heal that guy, or protect that guy. Like Ticklish could have easily been protected by Risen/soniv and maybe Ticklish could have healed himself up. But that didn't happen. | ||
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So your 900 this night is actually possible. Maybe 100 too low but I guess it's ok. Also nobody claimed damage except me, so unless they did around 200 on supersoft and now I fakeclaim that before I was 100% that there was lantarn play I should not be discussed too heavy tbh. | ||
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On December 18 2013 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: So if you think this is what we learned why have you never brought that up before? JAT yes, he has been pretty useless this game. Why the fuck didn't you? You were masoned with one of the guys. I didn't know what Risen/soniv could do. Or didn't care. Pretty sure we all had ticklish as town. I even said somewhere that Risen was town but JAT claimed the damage done to him so I was all mehhh about Risen. | ||
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On December 18 2013 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: So if you think this is what we learned why have you never brought that up before? JAT yes, he has been pretty useless this game. .............................. Also, I am so bored with people saying I am useless or that I don't care (granted that one was scum). Wtf have you done rayn? Hmmmmm? Defend all the scummers and push all the town? So fucking annoying you call me useless. Check your own filter. | ||
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You protect me from 2 spells. Ok nice I guess. Oneshot? And then you taunt people but you can't taunt scum KP. And then you don't even send in an action last night. grtz. | ||
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On December 18 2013 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: What the hell? Why should i bring that up? I didn't think it means anything other than someone shot ticklish or sandroba used his power and ticklish got outed, or that it was irrelevant. Why should it be ME who brings it up if YOU thought it was important? I didn't think it was important. I say that if I was a healer and somebody had invented the Ambulance radio I would have healed Ticklish in case I had a townread on him. = useful use of Ambulance radio. ^ you asked if Ambulance radio had a useful use. | ||
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On December 18 2013 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: So what's this about? You can very well see what my power does. How am i supposed to decide what my powers do? Your powers have been as useless as mine and you can actually decide what they do.-.. ... Really. ... 1) I totally agree that the result of my inventions have been less than optimal. But Double lynch was a success. 2) I have not been "totally useless" this game. I have been here many days for +10 hours and I have pushed MZ like a motherfucker. MZ had a super townie start (your words) and then MZ thought he could call me worthless and not caring (MZ words) and it fucking backfired right in his face, he wasn't seen as townie at all anymore and we lynched him. 3) Everything you accuse me off applies to yourself just as much and sometimes more. kk? | ||
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On December 18 2013 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like Koshi thinks that was important, he thinks certain people should do certain stuff based on it - then he never brings that up. What? Why? If you think that was important and should have been a message to our healers why the fuck have you never brought that up?? DQSGFSDFGSDFGSDFGSDFGSDFGSDFG I just came up with that reason 15 minutes ago that it could have been a good use for ambulance radio. Didn't think of it earlier. On December 18 2013 00:25 justanothertownie wrote: I think you 2 should stop this tbh. Yeah, but I learned that you need to keep replying to rayn or he gets into an insane tunnel and that is dangerous for us all. | ||
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On December 18 2013 02:29 sandroba wrote: It doesn't matter what mocsta types right now, what does matter is how he behaved throughout the game. It's a simple excercise to find rational for stuff already done. The way he behaved, as proven by that giant post I typed simply could not have come from a townie mentality. Please stop dicking around and let's lynch this man. Hmm. imo his defense was not "an excercise to find rational for stuff already done" as you so sexy put it. I can see that what he types is actually true. tell me what the difference is between Oats who is just blatantly wrong about people and then Mocsta who is right on people but then is wrong right before important moments. Isn't Mocsta putting himself out there first bussing strong hero members and then when it catches steam trying to cool it off? Sounds a bit strange to do as scum. | ||
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These are all consecutive posts btw. Instead for a small VE interaction Mocsta talks about scum only. Sounds a bit insane if you see he started out with that "wishy-washy" post that sandroba quoted. I don't buy it that Mocsta is scum. I had him as town early and even though the Sandroba case changed my view, after reading these posts I will not be voting for Mocsta. + Show Spoiler + On December 02 2013 16:19 Mocsta wrote: MZ Are you intentionally ignoring me? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=54#1072 On December 02 2013 16:23 Mocsta wrote: With gtrsrs you gave some insight into why you think his motives were townie. With Jay + MZ can you have detailed some actions you find odd/scummy. Can you please walk me through why the motives are pushing a scum agenda. On December 02 2013 16:33 Mocsta wrote: OK, I can leave the town VE read alone. I suppose everyone has their own special reads (e.g. Rayn with OdinofPergo). I don't like how you have gone about gtrsrs. My read on him aside (1) You made a case on a guy calling him out for flying under the radar -- yet you noticed him (2) Instead of probing to ascertain his alignment, you lead with a vote. With his amount of content I dont see how anyone could have such a strong read on him. What differentiates him from all the other trolls? (3) You aren't going out of your way to adapt your message to communicate it. i.e. you put out a case and are happy to talk about other issues (in fairness you are being called out) but still. this reads like feigned contribution to me. (4) In Sicilian you were an unpleasant troll -- but town. Why can't gtrsrs fit this mould? On December 02 2013 16:36 Mocsta wrote: Rayn, What do you think of Roffles? //fair enough if you want to wait for him to reply to my last query. On December 02 2013 16:44 Mocsta wrote: Pick Me !! Pick Me !! Ken (can I call you that?) Out of that list of 10; is Rayn was wrong about anyone; who do you think *could* be the most likely. I guess in other words; when you say null; do you mean I have zero opinion or anyone, or there is not enough information to have a firm opinion? On December 02 2013 16:51 Mocsta wrote: I am pointing out the irony of your case. If he is fulfilling a scum objective to blend in, he would not have stood out to you. So are you voting him for information, or because you think he is scum? Like, in your case you originally point out LSB. Why not probe LSB further instead of going for the easy path forward with gtrsrs? This is acceptable. And what again is his specific objective that he is pushing? As far as I could see , he is self-centered. Which yes could be scum.. but as has been proved by game after game of forum mafia, could also be town. I cant follow how you jump to this conclusion. On December 02 2013 16:59 Mocsta wrote: *is* = strong word. Are you going to lead with a vote? On December 02 2013 17:02 Mocsta wrote: I dont think gtrsrs is scum, but thats a stretch of his filter. Doesn't sound like hes giving up to me? On December 02 2013 17:09 Mocsta wrote: hmmm, perhaps this is just a matter of semantics/interpretations. All moot carry on. Want to weigh in on this MZ stuff? Is MZ overplaying bad town tells; or scum pushing lynch bait? On December 02 2013 17:11 Mocsta wrote: Fuck this, I am sick of you ignoring me. ##Vote: MZ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=57#1133 On December 02 2013 17:33 Mocsta wrote: Points 1-3 are accepted. Point 4 -- I dont follow this conclusion. What has he done to shit the thread; even you acknowledge his post content is low. Further, he seems to be keeping everything within his own microcosm. Vote remains. On December 02 2013 17:48 Mocsta wrote: Hmm that's reasonable. I disagree that he is scummy but I think I can see your point of view. Heading home. Will figure out my vote later on. On December 03 2013 09:54 Mocsta wrote: Hi guys Firstly, its pretty annoying to wade through 30 pages here my name is being tossed around and nothing is being addressed to me. - Regarding MZ was suspicious of MZ because I did not believe that someone could have such a strong read on a player with so little content at that point in time. In short, his approach felt identical to mine in Mafia LXII regarding Storrzerg. Whats the problem? Because what I am reading is that people are making association reads on gtrsrs to say stuff like "im chainsaw defending. " WTF? Secondly, I'm VT not fake claiming anything. I already crumbed what role I went for. "I play with myself" In a meeting. Be back in an hour. On December 03 2013 10:35 Mocsta wrote: I can get behind JohnnyLaw Definitely didnt like the way he talked about me. Felt like he was trying to +1 onto bullshit. ##Vote: JohnnyLaw On December 03 2013 10:41 Mocsta wrote: Really? I pretty much alluded to it immediately when MZ made the case. As for you; you made a point i disagreed with in general - not specific to gtr. /<No> Dunked On December 03 2013 10:57 Mocsta wrote: You are the one jumping to conclusions and I don't like it. My read on gtr is irrelevant. I *believe* that you can't have such a strong read early game, in particular off troll content I that is easy to interpret to both alignments. Hence why I decided to probe MZ for more information on his motive. I dont see what the problem is? As for gtrsrs, I never had a *strong* town read on him. I had a soft town lean. Regardless of that, asking someone to clarify "they are pushing a scum agenda" does not equivocate to "having a strong town lean". On December 03 2013 11:10 Mocsta wrote: Hard defending? Cases say more about the accuser than the recipient. I was asking you guys to better articulate your arguments... because I wanted to know the motive of slamming what I thought was poor play vs scum play. Again. I don't see what the problem is here. 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On December 02 2013 13:10 Mocsta wrote: I don't know anything about lol Sorry I was a marksman whatever that means | ||
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Wtf? I am off for a while but this needs to be researched if you have time. | ||
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Shen - Shadow Dash - Ninja'd! Each night, you may taunt target player, redirecting all damaging abilities he tried to perform onto yourself. They only do half damage. I asked because I wanted to know if shen triggers all abilities because I don't understand why Mocsta would lie about his VT role and if he did he shouldn't use his 50 damage at all unless really needed because watchers/trackers. But that's not what Shen does... Ok so I can follow Sandroba his reasoning and I agree that it looks fishy. I will repeat it how I see it and then ##vote: Mocsta even though I would prefer somebody else. 1) Mocsta rolls caster minion with 850 HP and 50KP. (likely as in 1/3) 2) Mocsta tells the thread he is a marksman VT with 1k hp. (unlikely) 3) Mocsta is afraid he will get checked out by Mig (likely) 4) Mocsta fakes 150 damage because that would bring his hp on 850 which is caster minion hp if Mig has checked him it would look like he is indeed a 1k VT. 5) Mocsta was taunted by rayn and rayn is pressuring him. Mocsta now claims to be a siege creep (why? why can't he still be a melee creep? Siege or melee creep don't do damage, is it because there is no melee creep in scumteam? Oats/Kush?) 6) Mig dies so no more checks. Mig was going to check Mocsta HP. Mig was already finding the HP thing suspicious. _________________ Even though I don't understand 2) , I can see this being true but it is fucking wild. Also if Mocsta is a caster creep, and he claims siege creep as pointed out in 5). I think we want both Oats and Kush to move somebody up or down next night. Would be hilarious if rayn taunted both Mocsta and jayB and they both are scum caster creeps. | ||
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point 5) kinda gives both Kush and Oats a townread if they can move people.... Not too happy about that. | ||
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On December 18 2013 07:50 justanothertownie wrote: Forget about that. He needed to claim the 1.15 k HP one because it is the only one that cannot be proven. yeah. This is my the sort of scumhunting I love btw. Sherlock Holmes style. | ||
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On December 18 2013 07:55 justanothertownie wrote: Yeah, as I said before it would be really poor scumplay. Why claim melee creep instead of siege creep in the first place? But another melee creep in the scumteam doesn't improve his situation because those people can only push the person next to them. I should read stuff better... Ok. I will be in wtf mode around that Mocsta claim if he turns out to be a scum caster creep. Big blunder about his VT claim? It kinda really looks like it. | ||
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It's just so unlikely you got 150 damage the same night you might have been checked by Mig and then also rayn got 25 damage while taunting you. This case on you started with good arguments from Sandroba and you replied excellent to that case, and now it is kinda devolving in a Sherlock Holmes case, but you got to agree that all this is quite strange. | ||
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1) Mocsta rolls siege creep (likely as in 1/3) 2) Mocsta tells the thread he is a VT with 1k hp. (could be explained that people lie about hp as town) 3) Mocsta gets 150 damage and has now 1k hp, tells the thread this can be checked by Mig) 4) rayn taunts Mocsta and gets 25 damage (???????????????????) (Risen is not scum so he didn't tell it) 5) Mig dies, but scum is not pushing Mocsta even though this is why Mig is stacked? (How fast was Risen being misslynched previous day? Scum holding Mocsta lynch for later?) Also quite strange. | ||
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You have chosen Cho'Gath, the Terror of the Void! Feral Scream - Cho'Gath is a terrifying Void monstrosity! Every night you may let out a bone-chilling scream to deal 125 KP to target player and check their current HP. Feast - NOMNOMNOMNOM!! At night, deal 350 KP to a target of your choosing. If the target dies during the same resolution period that Feast is used, Cho'Gath gains 350 HP. This ability can bring you above your maximum HP (to a maximum of 1300). One-shot. You have 1200 HP. Mig had 1200 HP and never claimed he lost HP. (can this be checked) I got 200 damage last night rayn got 900 damage last night. = 1100 damage. Is the last 100 damage coming from 2 caster creeps.  UM DUM DUM* | ||
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Anyway I am off to bed. supersoft don't forget my question plz. I might heal you at the end of dayphase. :D | ||
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On December 18 2013 08:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why in the world would you not heal me? I just took fucking 900 dmg.. secrets On December 18 2013 08:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Explain this? What does this mean? Hmm it's not good because you taunted jayB that night. It comes down to: we got 1100 damage last night. So we could see scum having 1100 night KP. Mig with 1200hp got 1 shotted because he never claimed to have taken damage iirc. This is (1100night kp + 2 * 50 caster damage) But like I said, jayB was taunted by you. Bit unfortunate. | ||
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##heal: supersoft Both are imo town, there is no chance that both are scum because scum kp from last night is missing. So what does my item do? It heals both players for a good amount after the lynch and it should be enough so that at least 2 of us survive. However, the real effect happens after the night. I am not going to discuss it too much but it is important that both rayn & supersoft don't say for how much they get healed and that they are not scummers because vengeful stuff will happen. I wanted to make the item a bit different but I couldn't... Best case scenario= both town, Worst case scenario = rayn scum, supersoft town. I will explain everything in full detail in the silent period. I am going to wake up at 3 am for that so hope you can be quiet about my item till then. Thx! | ||
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##Heal: supersoft | ||
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##Heal: supersoft ffs... | ||
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Anyway, I am quite happy about this item so yay! But let's not talk about it from now on cuz I will spoil things. | ||
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I still think we better lynch Oats over Mocsta. | ||
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On December 09 2013 11:12 JonnyLaw wrote: Not today. Mocsta - His whole filter is trying to target bad play but not specifically scum hunting. Scum. Kush is scum because he believes what someone else says in mafia? ve - If I'm reading this right VE will return no claims since the first two failed and it takes two days to get a read back. Now he wants to laser someone instead of cop checking two people. The better play is to actually get two cop reads when we don't have another way to check. slightly scummy. mz - He's emotional while appealing his lynch and the thought that he'll die to the nuke. It's all just spam and calling people names. Another player adding nothing. The case on him was weak d2 and I think there's better options. slightly scummy and derailing. lsb - After his list obsession he's just been pressuring reads that don't make sense to me. His case on Kush is essentially that Kush has no scum reads. Weak. His case on Koshi is just as weak. Then he just talks about the crown for a few posts when we already know it's gone. I've thought he's scum all game. Still do. mig - shows up to deal damage nightly and report in. Also could be scum. rufflez - who knows? On December 09 2013 11:17 JonnyLaw wrote: And hey mocsta why you so angry? Anytime something is posted you have to jump on it if you don't agree. You getting a bit nervous? On December 09 2013 11:21 JonnyLaw wrote: You've done nothing but post one liners all game aside from one post a couple pages ago. Your read this game is to sheep what's popular then call out anyone who thinks you're scum? Doctor is scary in scum hands as well. On December 09 2013 11:50 JonnyLaw wrote: Mocsta you don't offend me. Your posting style just comes off nervous and pushy rather than leading and convincing. What I said wasn't referring to your pressure. That's fine. Coag could be scum. That's what I said. Roffles could be scum. Voting yourself and throwing out random damage are both scummy. Mig's doing the same thing. Comes in, drops some damage and posts a bit of nothing then leaves. I don't know how to differentiate between the behavior of those three. This becomes more difficult since I don't think kush is scum. He seems misguided but his posts feel genuine, unlike your posting. | ||
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In Coag filter: 0 times In JL filter: 1 time + Show Spoiler + On December 06 2013 12:06 JonnyLaw wrote: Yeah Oats that's exactly what I said. I'll lynch him is transparent. In MZ filter: Chainsaw early defense with the random "I don't know what Oats is doing" + Show Spoiler + On December 02 2013 15:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Yo VE calm your shit. Also geript, can I see something substantial on oats other than "dis motherfucker gonna die"? On December 02 2013 16:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I've always thought he was town because of his D0 stuff. That hasn't changed. Someone can be wrong on a read and still be town, wrong =/= scum. On December 02 2013 16:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: It was his post about the quality of the thread that really set me off since it was such bullshit and he then proceeded to post more bullshit. Scum love threads where there is a lot of bullshit and that's what he was contributing to. As to your second point, I have a town read on you, I haven't paid too much attention to oats but if you have kp and decide to shoot him I'd appreciate we discuss it first. Actually I have no idea what your second point is about. If you're asking me as to why I don't have a meta read on you it's because I haven't played with you as much/I don't remember you very much from previous games. On December 04 2013 14:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: ok guys keep in mind my last post was somewhere in the 90s pages so I have a lot of ground to cover. I've been suspicious of geript so I am more than willing to consider a geript lynch, I just like to understand what changed to get other people to agree with me. I'm not being lazy oats, I just wanna know if I should watch for anything. On December 04 2013 16:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: here's what I got out of geript: never once does he properly analyze oats and is content to simply lean on his "gut read" he constantly talks about both oats and jay but never really tries to get people to join him and instead simply tells people to vote them because his targets are guaranteed scum. The biggest thing I get out of geript is a bunch of noise and posts without doing anything substantial. For instance, he has his main targets but he brings up others on the side and never follows up. He's in that twilight zone where you can't blame him for the bum mislynch but he was definitely involved. Probably the biggest thing in geript's favor is calling out people like austin and coag, both of whom are low content lurkers. If he's scum he could be bussing his teammates but it's a point in his favor that he doesn't let them fall through the cracks. However the reason why this doesn't clear him is because he never follows up with any of this. It's easy enough to call out lurkers as scum but he never actually follows through which makes me think this was an effort to appear protown. geript is frustratingly inconclusive for me. He's done things I feel are scummy (hence my gutread) but I couldn't put it into a coherent analysis. This is the problem I was running into earlier in the game when I was looking at geript and sadly bum's death hasn't really made it any easier. He could be scum but I'd rather look into bum's other suspects right now. On December 05 2013 14:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: rayn I could get behind you on rean. idk what the fuck oats and mocsta are doing but it's not productive right now, you're both shitting up the thread. Actually rayn I have one question, what are your updated thoughts on LSB and gtrsrs since you haven't mentioned either in a while and they both played prominently D1? In Onegu filter: 0 times | ||
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imo you got a pretty clean filter and Oats would have always been lynched over you if that 25 damage thing didn't happen. But it did and you will get lynched for it. If it is any consolidation I am voting Oats. | ||
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Kinda interesting that Mocsta never mentioned jayB in his "mylo" theory. Mocsta always said scum was going to kill "rayn+Koshi+supersoft". arfffffffffffffffffffffffff I hope rayn and supersoft are town. | ||
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Time Cycle: This game will follow a 23 hour+1 night/48 hour day cycle. This means all night actions must be in 1 hour before the official deadline at which point a 1-hour resolution period will begin. In case I or another co-host is not able to post around deadline, any votes after the 48 hour mark will not count and the game will be put on halt until the night post is up. Currently the deadline is 04:00 CET (+01:00), but that is subject to change. Actions/votes will be accepted up to and including the posted times, but not after. I can post right? I am going to just put something in my cell phone and press send at 3 am. | ||
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Who his alignment would you like to know not next day but the day after that? So somebody you suspect but won't lynch tomorrow. | ||
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On December 19 2013 22:59 jcarlsoniv wrote: I would honestly prefer something that gives us information immediately... Great idea! I shall ask the host for an item that reveals all the alignments with the daypost. | ||
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On December 19 2013 23:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not fishing anything. I am obviously not talking about this night. I am talking about N4 and N5, why did jcarl not give you the lantern? N4 was with Risen. He explained. N5 was supersoft. It was revealed instantly on D6. N6 is supersecretz. wifomwifomwifomwifomwifomwifomwifomwifom | ||
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you scared me that's all. | ||
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I will probably sheep Shandroba. secretz Nope Orange or Red or Yellow | ||
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On December 20 2013 15:31 jaybrundage wrote: Why you guys so dead. Lets see some information. It's boring trying to stimulate conversation when no one else wants to participate. Good question. It's not that all the remaining players are lurkers. So I was kinda 17 minutes too late to post my stuff yesterday. Waking up is hard if you only went 1h30 before that to bed. Anyway, without other people getting damage it might look like I totally WIFOM'ed scummers. | ||
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Nha. It isn't really useful information. | ||
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Not trying to solve the game. Doesn't say why. | ||
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On December 20 2013 22:16 jcarlsoniv wrote: JAT, does the wolf cackle at midnight? It has to be yes. | ||
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On December 20 2013 21:58 Oatsmaster wrote: sorry was inactive. EXCUSES EXCUSES. So Koshi, how large are your tunnel glasses? Oats, you kinda remind me of your game in Nuclear mafia as scum becauseear the end you couldn't be bothered to post anymore. While in ## mafia as town you were pretty active till the end. thoughts? | ||
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On December 20 2013 21:50 supersoft wrote: these nightkills are strange... rayn was kinda strange why he got shot 2 days ago for 900. Are you playing this game supersoft? reading it? | ||
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On December 20 2013 22:48 supersoft wrote: yes i read everything, but I am really sick right now and had exams this week. Just give us some stuff to work with. Current thoughts? Nothing? | ||
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On December 20 2013 23:04 jcarlsoniv wrote: ~_~ did you take my lantern last night? Koshi - what was your item from yesterday? What does Locket do today? secretz. all secretz. | ||
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On December 20 2013 23:53 jcarlsoniv wrote: was it said somewhere that rayn only had 100 damage left? No. I think he had 50 left if I can count properly. -100 N3 -25 N4 -25 N5 -900 N6 and his hero had 1.1k hp. I say 100 because you got 1000 and we know tha scum has 1.1k kp | ||
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On December 21 2013 00:06 jcarlsoniv wrote: Before he flipped, was it public knowledge that he had 1100 HP total? Also, isn't the "known" total scum KP based on conjecture? I'm just confused as to why he would take just enough to kill him, and then I still take 1000 - it makes sense if his hp was public knowledge, but I wasn't personally aware of his total hp (it's certainly likely that I just missed it if it was public). What the fuck did your invention do yesterday? ^ really good point. Quite insane they knew he had 1100. Oo | ||
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On December 21 2013 00:09 justanothertownie wrote: Interesting. Can you tell us now what you actually did? Just join the wagon off justice on supersoft. We got to pressure him hard. | ||
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On December 21 2013 00:14 jcarlsoniv wrote: how bout I join the wagon of "Koshi tell us what the fuck is going on". Really getting sick of your shit and I'm currently fighting the urge to vote you. I got nothing going on? Why do you think I got something going on? rayn died due minimal damage. How did scum know he didn't got healed? -->supersoft didn't get healed. The entire healing thing was a lie anyway. | ||
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1) jayB isn't scum. supersoft isn't scum. 2) jayB is scum. supersoft is scum. 3) jayB isn't scum. supersoft is scum. --> Me pointing out that we always lynch supersoft over jayB. | ||
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On December 21 2013 00:40 jcarlsoniv wrote: You ignored possibility 4, which I added in red. And, as I said, I understand the conclusion you are drawing. But give us a reason to listen to you. No option 4 is not possible. Everybody and their mother thinks jayB is scum. There is 1 low hp guy even hitting jayB till he dies, why is scum allowing this and instead do 900 on rayn and 200 on me? | ||
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Could you look deeply into supersoft? I would make a case but I dont want to make a bad case on scum. My cases never end up any good. | ||
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Road to redemption for supersoft: 1) explain who he really targeted when rayn taunted him. protip: it wasn't MZ. 2) explain in full detail how and when he got damage. | ||
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On December 21 2013 02:49 sandroba wrote: koshi can you invent the same thing twice? It isn't in my description even though normally inventor can't invent same thing twice. I was a nice boy and changed it up every time. | ||
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On December 21 2013 02:51 Koshi wrote: Nope. Highest chance of hitting scum is by voting supersoft. Road to redemption for supersoft: 1) explain who he really targeted when rayn taunted him. protip: it wasn't MZ. 2) explain in full detail how and when he got damage. 3) Tell us his exact amount of HP he now has. | ||
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I don't know if the non TL+ users can see it like that. I think you guys can? Anyway. While waiting. 1) ctrl+f 2) search for "supersoft" 3) ??? 4) smile | ||
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On December 21 2013 04:04 supersoft wrote: I am not scum. Don't be paranoid, koshi. + I don't really understand, what you're trying to tell or ask me. Just answer my questions three. They are quite easy. You don't need to search anything. I am quite sure you can remember it all. | ||
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On December 21 2013 04:07 supersoft wrote: He calls me SS a lot, too? I am not able to reread mocsta right now. I am sick in bed. Yeah, it's not about you never getting mentioned :D | ||
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On December 21 2013 04:55 supersoft wrote: the question is phrased pretty strange. I got 500 ... 2 questions remain. 1) Who did you really target on N2? 2) Explain to us when you took damage and who did this damage to you. | ||
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On December 21 2013 05:38 justanothertownie wrote: Oh he did. My bad. So what is the point in keeping your secrets Koshi? meh. I kinda wanted people to discuss this more but seems like the thread has went full lurk. Here is the item I made: 1) I made a parity check, that gave healing as verifier. I made it so that it was 300/200 and result was given after the lynch, with the lynchpost (/nightpost). I had to type 2 names in the thread and then X was given 300hp and Y was given 200hp if same. 2) Hosts changed my item and gave it a night effect because it was too strong. But I still had to type in the 2 names for some reason... But the heal changed to 500/500. 3) rayn flipped town, soniv claims 1000 damage, supersoft claims remaining 500hp --> I just realized that supersoft even has to be scum. Healing is done after KP, this means that supersoft can't be hit for exactly 500 hp because he would have been dead. I thought it was possible that soniv was fakeclaiming damage and scum did a perfect 500 damage to supersoft before (hence 97,5%) but that isn't possible. ----------------------------- To clarify: I do not know what supersoft did N2. That question was there to seem like I knew everything done to him & what he did. Just some sillyness to cover up that my other 2 questions were the important onces. All the secrecy I showed before was either 1) to confirm for myself supersoft is scum because I didn't know for sure until full damage report. 2) See if I could see who the last scummer was, or a lesser looking townie that made a good case on supersoft so I could confirm read on him because scums are not instant bussing atm because only 2 left. 3) A really good case could help me convince thread because this might not cut it. even though in my eyes supersoft 100% best lynch and like 99,99% certain scum. I don't see any holes in this check. | ||
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Anyway, sheep me! Going to be soonish I think. | ||
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On December 21 2013 07:54 jaybrundage wrote: Um so why do you think SS is scum. Would SS not be healed if he wasn't the same alignment as rayn. Also why didn't rayn get healed then? Healing comes after scum kp/death/shields + Show Spoiler + Untargetable Redirects Roleblocks Time delay Items/traps KP/shields/deaths Heals Signup list switches/checks if ss was the same alignment as rayn he can't have exactly 500hp. Because this means he has to have had 0 hp and then get healed 500. rayn didn't get healed because 1) ss is scum and 2) even is ss is town, rayn would have died first before the heal. SS is scum unless he has actually something like 550 hp, was hit for exactly 500 damage yesterday and then soniv is scum for fakeclaiming 1k damage... It has to be something insane like that. | ||
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SS is town* Fuck I am tired... | ||
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On December 21 2013 08:26 jaybrundage wrote: Ok so just to understand correctly. If they are different alignments neither gets healed. If they are the same alignment both get healed, Right? Can Inventor give items to themselves? That just seems odd. If your telling the truth then lets lynch SS then. So you don't get any result tho its just asking them if they were healed. Do we know if you were roleblocked? Yes Yes, but I can't give items twice to people. Look in OP for detailed explanation of that skill. The activation was in-thread, I can't be roleblocked. I didn't get any confirmation but supersoft should have been healed for 500hp if he is town. There really is no way around it. | ||
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On December 21 2013 08:36 kushm4sta wrote: Who do I sheep??? cray cray Koshi | ||
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items activate before fucking scum KP. I read that list so many times, never saw it before. good thing I saw that just now. But I always worked with wrong info before. you are scum supersoft. | ||
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Him and rayn both claimed damage. and they couldn't both be scum because there would have been missing KP. So my invention would never hit 2 scum, not that that was too important. But I would heal town and confirm 2 strong townies. Or find a scummer that would have been hard to find. Also with both rayn and supersoft as town we would be way certain about you being scum for example. Now I am off to bed for realzies. 4am. dnu how this always happens. | ||
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Did you crumb it? | ||
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Or that scummers can negate the result by doing damage to the checked peepz. | ||
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Oats = scum | ||
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evul scummers. | ||
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Kush = Mocsta named both scummers. Sandroba = bussed 2 scummers for no reason at all. jayB = target for scummers. Mocsta voted him, supersoft shot him. Weakest mafia member scum used for towncredit? JAT = Plays town. Shot Risen, Holyflare and somebody I don't remember. But plays so town. so so town. | ||
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scum has 1k NK. Supersoft was lying the entire time he targeted jayB. supersoft cards made it 1.1k damage. jayB wasn't distressed when he got hit by cards the first time btw. I recall saying "hey jayB, why aren't you complaining about supersoft hitting you" and since then jayB complained when supersoft hit him -_-. kk now really sleep. So tired. | ||
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Dark Passage - Each day, you may PM the hosts with a player you wish to throw your lantern to. On the nightpost, he will be given the choice to click the fucking lantern to temporarily leave his location for the night and stay at your location instead. Abilities targeting "him" don't work at all, but abilities targeting "you" will affect both of you. (Abilities that fit the 'Items/trap' designation do not follow this rule.) Why is it a fucking lantern? | ||
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filter: "Oats" --> Seems like Oats and supersoft had a thing going early. Pretty strong conversations between each other. "jayB" --> Gets mentioned way less. Some defending going on, somewhere supersoft decides to kill jayB, I don't really know why. "Kush" --> ss made 1 big defense post for Kush, 1 small defense post for Kush, no real interaction between them otherwise. ss calls out 2 scumslips of Kush. Does nothing with it though. From supersoft filter I go: Kush>jayB>Oats | ||
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"stop going after ss, rayn, we have other scum to catch." and there was another one. forgot atm. Don't have much time today rofl... | ||
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On December 23 2013 00:33 kushm4sta wrote: but it's not a scumslip anymore if he's actually scum. Yeah, but you didn't know supersoft was actually scum. Except for that sentence you never said supersoft was scum. Why would you say "rayn let go of this scum, find other scum" when you never come back to the supersoft scum read. Reminds me of rayn saying the same thing to me in ## as scum. | ||
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I was thinking an item that I give to Oats/Kush/jayB and that require them to kill on out of Oats/Kush/jayB while killing themselves. Then Sandroba/JAT/Koshi lynch the 3rd one. ____________ But if there are 2 scummers left and they can kill 2 of us tonight we might have a problem. | ||
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On December 12 2013 20:32 Koshi wrote: But I need to help some collegues first. It comes down that Coag puts roffles in the lead here: + Show Spoiler + On December 07 2013 07:17 Mid or Feed wrote: Vote count: supersoft (1): Rean (0): JonnyLaw (0): austinmcc (5): Rean, OdinOfPergo (1): Onegu Koshi (0): kushm4sta (1): LSB, ticklishmusic (0): jcarlsoniv (3): Risen, gtrsrs, Chezinu (0): Meapak_Zipph (5): austinmcc, Mocsta, geript, Mig, Koshi Roffles (6): Oatsmaster, Roffles, supersoft, kushm4sta, jcarlsoniv, Coagulation Risen (0): VisceraEyes (0): Mig (1): Chezinu LSB (1): JonnyLaw Modkill zone (3): mkfuba07, OdinOfPergo, justanothertownie Roffles is currently set to be lynched. Voting thread is here. Please make sure all of your votes go in there, they don't count otherwise. Voting is mandatory. I missed JonnyLaw's vote on LSB earlier, I've updated all the vc's in this thread accordingly, and the latest (the one mirroring this one) in the regular thread) Day 2 ends in And then Coag making it close again here: + Show Spoiler + On December 07 2013 10:09 Mid or Feed wrote: Vote count: supersoft (1): Rean (0): JonnyLaw (0): austinmcc (5): Rean, OdinOfPergo (1): Onegu Koshi (0): kushm4sta (0): ticklishmusic (0): jcarlsoniv (3): Risen, gtrsrs, Chezinu (0): Meapak_Zipph (7): austinmcc, Mocsta, geript, Mig, Koshi, kushm4sta, Chezinu Roffles (6): Oatsmaster, Roffles, Risen (0): VisceraEyes (0): Mig (0): LSB (0): Modkill zone (4): mkfuba07, OdinOfPergo, justanothertownie, supersoft Meapak_Ziphh is currently set to be lynched. Voting thread is here. Please make sure all of your votes go in there, they don't count otherwise. Voting is mandatory. Day 2 ends in But for some reason they don't swap when it is clear that roffles is not getting lynched: Damned. This makes jayB look bad tbh. If Oats is scum he is with 2 other scums on Roffles, while there is 1 scum on Austin and 2 on MZ. Kush is actually also on MZ. JayB is on the opposite town wagon. | ||
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My item will be a dayvig gun and it will require the recipient (see item name) to kill himself and he will be able to shoot somebody else. Fact is: 6 people alive. If there are 2 scummers that means that if 2 people die this night it is a vote race and I guess scum wins in that scenario? Even if the OP states that scum needs to outnumber town. Lets say that scum can kill 2 people and it is 4 people alive tomorrow. If my item lands in scum hands it is useless for that scum because he cant kill anybody without him dieing. If my item lands in town hands it get's interesting because if 4 are alive and my recipient is town he can make it 1-1 if he shoots wrong. I do not know what happens if mid-day 2 people are left alive and it is 1 town vs 1 scum... Therefore, be very careful with the votes. Maybe it is smart to stack votes on 1 person, and then if the shot is on town that 1 person is lynched because votes were highest on him? I do not know how that works. Normally there shouldn't be 2 town deaths though. I may have made an item yesterday that prevents this. I also encourage sandroba to fully use it on the 3 people that are very likely town. For reads: JAT Sandroba are both townreads for me. I don't like to say this but if any of these 2 are scum I have no real problem to lose as town. Sucks for us but yeah.... That's why winning as town >>> winning as scum. Normally speaking there shouldn't be 2 guys out of Sandroba, Jat and Koshi dieing though. I think we are all pretty full hp, except me who got hit 3 times but still >500HP | ||
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My last reads: Sandroba (sure town because the mocsta lynch, with 3 scummers (Mocsta, sandroba and supersoft) there was literally 0 need to bus. JAT Is townie but Sandroba is more townie. But JAT gets town best player award in my eyes. Good posts through game. Kushmaster The certainty he presented while he gave his reads is the only reason why he is scummy. Also he is a bit of a player that puts himself in the picture. Bold scumplay. Very bold scumplay. Oats Typical Oats day 1 and day 2, but after couldn't be bothered to play the game. Very much looks like scumOats. But with Mocsta, supersoft as teammates I would think he would do more. Things that speak in his favor are the 1 pick and supersoft filter. jayB active through the game, which I respect, but not really anything super productive came out of him. Is there one incident that we remember? I don't remember anything except all scummers wanting to kill jayB. jayB is the last scummer for me. Oats could be, Kush could be. | ||
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The guy that got my item (see how the item is named) Can do X damage to a person as instant dayvig. Where X is the number of HP he is willing to sacrifice. This means that the recipient SHOULD BE FORCED BY THE THREAD to kill himself and take out another scumread out of jayB/Kush/Oats. If the recipient does not die, he should be LYNCHED, The recipient should always be able to take out one of the other 2 names unless scum hit him with the biggest chunk of their night KP and then we will be all alive tomorrow anyway. Make sure you let the recipient of my item DIES, I triple checked it with the hosts, he has that option. yay for town! PS: Sandroba can save us all anyway. PSII: I will not wake up 0255AM so I will just spoil everything now. | ||
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I dont remember who I have but it was a guy from gambit who plays ad. A russian. I will look it up later. | ||
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If scum Oats shoots me and he doesn't die then Oats is still lynched 3/2 but the other scummer can show face and they both vote a townie, which shouldn't be a problem unless the 2 votes are on a townie. But this makes it really really tedious... | ||
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On December 23 2013 20:54 Koshi wrote: I was also thinking about point 2. Does this mean we need like 4 votes on Oats and 2 votes on the other guy? Because if Oats shoots a townie and we then lynch a townie. It goes 2 town / 1 scum into the night. Which is bad. ^ this is wrong btw. Oats can shoot a townie without dieing.... So it would be 2/2 into the night and town loss... | ||
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On December 23 2013 21:02 justanothertownie wrote: That would be most annoying. 8 scum? Give us a break... Sounds fucking insane with all these roles. But why is this still going on? | ||
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and if you, scumJAT, are having a 30 page filter pro town discussion I am going to be sad. But it is sooooo unlikely. | ||
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It used to be that you ALWAYS had to use all your hp if you wanted to shoot. But hosts didn't allow that and told me that they would allow it only if the recipient of my item was able to pick the amount he wanted to sacrifice of his own HP. Do you think I would allow you to not die? No. Hosts love you Oats. | ||
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JAT, sandroba and Koshi? Or better said. We are townreads compared to jayB and Kush. Or If you had to pick 3 people to trust. It would be Sandroba, JAT and Koshi? Trust us to lynch the one you didn't shoot out of JayB and Kush. ----------------- Or if you think one of JAT, Sandroba and Koshi is scum. Which one is it? and why? And why would we kill one of those 3 over Kush/jayB? Because if you shoot one of Kush/jayB and you are both town. 4 will be alive and we got to pray to jeebus there is only 1 scum left. Who would that 1 scum be? | ||
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Be a town Hero and pick the right ones Oats ;D Sandroba should be <1000hp unless he has been lying about supersoft shooting him and in that case he is still on 1150 hp and a very bad shot for you. BUT JAT could help you by shooting his 225 damage on jayB. Kush claimed move minion and is therefore on 1000hp and a good shot. If he isn't you can again ask JAT to shoot Kush for 225 damage. | ||
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Yeah Kush, I don't believe this story. JAT/Sandroba both town FINAL ANSWER. Shoot Oats. Lynch Kush. | ||
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You got a gun! Please type in the thread ##Shoot X for Y damage X is the name of a player. Y is the damage that both you and target player take. --eye for an eye-- | ||
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Not a single scummer talked about an SK. You were the only one sandroba. I do not believe in an SK. | ||
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Last days there was only 1.1 k damage reported. If the SK can hold his shot or has no shot at all I will not be amused. | ||
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On December 24 2013 01:31 kushm4sta wrote: if you lynch me and im town wont town lose? No. Oats dies if he shot you. So its 4 vs 1 and we can lynch. If we lynch you it is 3 vs 1 with 3 towns that don't have less than 1.1k hp if you combine lowest 2. | ||
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On December 24 2013 01:33 Koshi wrote: No. Oats dies if he shot you. So its 4 vs 1 and we can lynch. If we lynch you it is 3 vs 1 with 3 towns that don't have less than 1.1k hp if you combine lowest 2. Xcept when 1 out of JAT/Sandroba is scum. Then we fucking lost. | ||
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On December 24 2013 01:37 sandroba wrote: ??? I ask you because I might be inclined to lynch you tomorrow if oats doesn't die, we lynch him and the game doesnt end. That's because i can't figure out a champion that has this 4x225 ability. Really? Why would the extra power from the SK be that he can do silent 4 x 225 damage? It is quite obvious he has a role that can do silent damage. JAT doesn't want to tell thread what his visible spell is. We lost if JAT is scum anyway. | ||
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On December 24 2013 01:49 Koshi wrote: Or Oats didn't shoot Kush and they want to see if they can kill 2 townies this night with the scum KP. Which means we have to wait.... ^ if this is true kita popcorn is a dick move. | ||
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On December 24 2013 01:51 sandroba wrote: You know he did since he typed it in thread. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I guess this is true. But yeah... Hmmmmmmmm I think we won and they are waiting on WoS :D Fuck. I am traveling home because this constant f5 is not helping anybody atm. | ||
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On December 24 2013 03:33 jaybrundage wrote: I wanna look at scum qt but is there a way to make it all show at once? http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/SQq2aHbfDUW6/p500.1 500 is the max amount of messages at the same time iirc. So if you want to read next 500 just type /p1000.501 at the end of url. | ||
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geript was interesting. Vote change and kill townie over scum and then ragequit cuz he was annoyed by a scummer -_-* Rest of the modkills were standard. total 5 townies for 1 scummer is okish I guess for balance. | ||
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On December 24 2013 03:55 jcarlsoniv wrote: that's the obs QT (idk if that's what you intended to link) Oh yeah. Well same principle for scum QT :D | ||
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On December 24 2013 03:30 justanothertownie wrote: HAHA! ##brofist: Koshi All the respect to your play btw. Damn good posts 24/7 and big filter. | ||
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On December 24 2013 09:53 kushm4sta wrote: My reasons for why mocsta was scum were so good. Then sandroba comes along with something that barely makes sense and everyone listens to him. I didn't. I defended Mocsta till the end. | ||
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